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ebony14
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Apr-07-14, 08:47 AM (EDT) |
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3. "RE: An Arresting Alternate Image"
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LAST EDITED ON Apr-07-14 AT 08:49 AM (EDT) >Hm. Greg Morris maybe. He worked for Desilu/Paramount around that >time. Yes, but then you'd have those weird moments where the helmsman of the Enterprise gets tapped for odd black ops jobs by a senior member of Starfleet Intelligence. Along with Mr. Spock, who turns out to be pretty good at being a master of disguise. You know, that might be pretty awesome. Ebony the Black Dragon
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Mercutio
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Apr-06-14, 06:33 PM (EDT) |
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2. "RE: An Arresting Alternate Image"
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Assuming that Roddenberry could talk the studio into two black characters (and Uhura was a heavy lift all by her lonesome) he probably would have at least made the attempt to get Sidney Poitier. Poitier was both very high profile at the time, but not high profile enough that television would have been seen as beneath him (that wouldn't happen until his enormously banner year in '67) and it was well known that he was seeking out roles more nuanced than what he'd been doing to that point. Poitier was well-known in Hollywood to really want to preform roles that would give him the option to do more varied acting, but considered it his social responsibility to defy old stereotypes of black men as either happy minstrels or savage brutes. Star Trek might have interested him, especially as part of an explicitly multicultural cast where he would be less likely to be written as the token black. -Merc Keep Rat |
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Mercutio
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Apr-07-14, 06:49 PM (EDT) |
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7. "RE: An Arresting Alternate Image"
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>It seems to me that if Mr. Zulu was at the helm, Nichelle Nichols >would be replaced by an Asian woman. You know, I read and thought "Huh, that's probably right" and then "God dammit, I really want to see Lucy Liu in a Star Trek series." (She's already playing a doctor who solves crimes! Playing a space-doctor who solves space-crimes isn't that great a stretch!) -Merc Keep Rat |
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Gryphon
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Apr-07-14, 07:06 PM (EDT) |
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8. "RE: An Arresting Alternate Image"
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>It seems to me that if Mr. Zulu was at the helm, Nichelle Nichols >would be replaced by an Asian woman. Hey, why not? She's already been replaced by a Dominican... (Seriously, kids, what is going on with Zoë Saldaña? Just off the top of my head I can think of two roles in which she's been weirdly miscast. In The Losers she played a character who was originally from Afghanistan before being inexplicably rewritten as a Bolivian, and of course in Star Trek and its sequels she's playing someone who's supposed to be Bantu. I mean, I'm not hating on her, she does good work, but wha?) --G. -><- Benjamin D. Hutchins, Co-Founder, Editor-in-Chief, & Forum Mod Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/ zgryphon at that email service Google has Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam. |
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Gryphon
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Apr-07-14, 08:21 PM (EDT) |
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10. "RE: An Arresting Alternate Image"
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>No stranger than casting Sean Connery as a Greek (Time Bandits), a >Spaniard... er... Egyptian (The Highlander) and a Lithuanian (The Hunt >for Red October). "OK, Sean, everyone in this movie is Scottish." "That'sh good." "Except you. You're a 3,000-year-old Egyptian, lately part of the Spanish court, by way of medieval Japan." "Hm. I'll have tae practish tha'." --G. -><- Benjamin D. Hutchins, Co-Founder, Editor-in-Chief, & Forum Mod Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/ zgryphon at that email service Google has Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam. |
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Gryphon
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Apr-08-14, 10:31 PM (EDT) |
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13. "RE: An Arresting Alternate Image"
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>Well, if we're being honest here, the ethnicity of every non-white >person on that bridge was downplayed at every opportunity, because >merely having them there and on-camera was regarded as risky enough.Interestingly, for all that one often hears about the studio and/or network having been leery of the multiethnic main cast, they seem to have had few problems with that aspect of the overall setting. Off the top of my head, I can think of three other black characters on the original Star Trek apart from Lt. Uhura, and they're all highly trained, well-regarded professionals. They weren't series regulars, which may be why the producers got away with it, but Commodore Stone was a Starfleet flag officer; Dr. M'benga a physician shown treating white folks without comment; and Richard Daystrom, for all that he was a rather tragic figure in that episode, was nonetheless a Nobel laureate and a widely admired man. --G. -><- Benjamin D. Hutchins, Co-Founder, Editor-in-Chief, & Forum Mod Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/ zgryphon at that email service Google has Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam. |
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Mercutio
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Apr-08-14, 11:46 PM (EDT) |
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14. "RE: An Arresting Alternate Image"
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Huh. You know, I'd never really thought about that. It is weird, isn't it? Paramount freaking out about the composition of the guys on the bridge every week and an on-screen interracial kiss and suchly is well-documented, but other stuff you'd think they'd have had issues with ("You can't have a black flag officer, he outranks the white captain") are things I can't recall hearing anything about. Yeah. Weird. -Merc Keep Rat |
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