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"Re:Creators, aka UF Core: The Anime"
 
   LAST EDITED ON Apr-23-17 AT 12:46 PM (EDT)
 
Seriously, look at this premise.

"The series is about a high school student who becomes involved in a battle between several characters from manga, anime and video games who somehow appear in the real world."

More here:

http://kotaku.com/new-anime-re-creators-asks-what-if-anime-was-real-1794507914

Mario


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  RE: Re:Creators, aka UF Core: The Anime Berk Apr-26-17 1
  RE: Re:Creators, aka UF Core: The Anime BLUE Apr-27-17 2
     RE: Re:Creators, aka UF Core: The Anime Kendra Kirai Apr-27-17 3
         RE: Re:Creators, aka UF Core: The Anime BLUE Apr-27-17 4
     RE: Re:Creators, aka UF Core: The Anime Gryphonadmin Apr-27-17 5
         RE: Re:Creators, aka UF Core: The Anime Berk Apr-27-17 6
         RE: Re:Creators, aka UF Core: The Anime BLUE Apr-27-17 7
             RE: Re:Creators, aka UF Core: The Anime Gryphonadmin Apr-27-17 8
                 RE: Re:Creators, aka UF Core: The Anime BLUE Apr-28-17 11
     RE: Re:Creators, aka UF Core: The Anime jhosmer1 Apr-28-17 9
         RE: Re:Creators, aka UF Core: The Anime Gryphonadmin Apr-28-17 10
             RE: Re:Creators, aka UF Core: The Anime VoidRandom Apr-29-17 12
             RE: Re:Creators, aka UF Core: The Anime Mephronmoderator Apr-29-17 13
                 RE: Re:Creators, aka UF Core: The Anime McFortner Apr-29-17 14

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1. "RE: Re:Creators, aka UF Core: The Anime"
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   Magical redheaded swordswoman from popular fantasy novel series moves in with creator.

Played for drama.

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2. "RE: Re:Creators, aka UF Core: The Anime"
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   Considering I would have to sign up for Prime, and then pay extra for Anime Strike...going to skip this one. I already have Netflix, Hulu, and VRV. I don't need to add $16 a month to my bill. And I don't use Amazon enough to justify getting Prime for that purpose. I hate the business model Amazon seems to be,operating off of...

-D-

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3. "RE: Re:Creators, aka UF Core: The Anime"
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   There are other ways to WATCH a CARTOON ONLINE if you know where to look.

Coughcough.

Also, amazon having their own exclusive shows is goddamn terrible.

Also also, screw VRV and screw Hulu, neither of which are in Canada anyway. (well, I'm not sure about VRV but Hulu definitely isn't. Also screw Hulu for showing ads even if you pay them to use their service. That's bullshit.)


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4. "RE: Re:Creators, aka UF Core: The Anime"
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   I like VRV, even if their app needs work. I get Funimation, Rooster Teeth, Cartoon Hangover, Crunchyroll, and a couple others for $2 more than CR by itself. Sorry that Canada hasn't caught up with the modern world, I guess.

-D-

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5. "RE: Re:Creators, aka UF Core: The Anime"
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   >I hate the business model Amazon seems to be,operating off of...

... Either having practically everything in the universe or knowing where they can get it, and delivering most of it to customers in a sharpish fashion? Yes, how dare they.

They're basically the Sears, Roebuck of the early 21st century. Which is an interesting glimpse into the changing attitudes toward Retail Giants and what they do to get that way, because when Sears did the 100-years-ago equivalent of what Amazon does now, people sure as shit didn't hate on them for it.

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6. "RE: Re:Creators, aka UF Core: The Anime"
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   LAST EDITED ON Apr-27-17 AT 04:48 PM (EDT)
 
I have no quarrel with Amazon making it so that I don't have to trundle off to Sears or pour through a seasonal catalog to see what's new.

Their impact on malls has been surprising, but more in the sheer magnitude of the change than anything else.

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7. "RE: Re:Creators, aka UF Core: The Anime"
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   >>I hate the business model Amazon seems to be,operating off of...
>
>... Either having practically everything in the universe or knowing
>where they can get it, and delivering most of it to customers in a
>sharpish fashion? Yes, how dare they.

See, I LIKE going into stores, getting my hands on the thing, and so forth. I hate ordering things online. The only things I order online are things I can't GET anywhere else. I live in a decent sized metro area for a REASON, and the ability to go into stores and get what i want is one of them. I know its the old way of doing things, but its what I like.

>They're basically the Sears, Roebuck of the early 21st century. Which
>is an interesting glimpse into the changing attitudes toward Retail
>Giants and what they do to get that way, because when Sears did the
>100-years-ago equivalent of what Amazon does now, people sure as shit
>didn't hate on them for it.

I didn't like ordering things from catalogues, either.
What upsets me about Anime Strike is that I have to buy a service I don't really want, Amazon Prime, and then have to tack on the service I do want for MORE MONEY. And them having exclusives is even more of a pain. If my brother still had his Prime account, I might be willing to pay the extra fee, but $16 per month for access to the 2 or 3 shows I want is very steep. Especially as I live in Ohio and the amount of facilities Amazon has in Ohio now means I pay taxes on Amazon stuff because its considered in-state (or will be considered in-state shortly), which is just icing on the cake.
I realize I'm not the typical Amazon target customer. And that part of my dislike is a general dislike for "exclusive content". It just rubs me the wrong way.

-D-

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8. "RE: Re:Creators, aka UF Core: The Anime"
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   >>>I hate the business model Amazon seems to be,operating off of...
>>
>>... Either having practically everything in the universe or knowing
>>where they can get it, and delivering most of it to customers in a
>>sharpish fashion? Yes, how dare they.
>
>See, I LIKE going into stores, getting my hands on the thing, and so
>forth.

So do I! But I live an hour and a half from the nearest town big enough to have a movie theater, let alone 30-to-50%-decent retail, and for anything really interesting, I'd have to leave the state. It's great that you don't, but, well.

>What upsets me about Anime Strike is that I have to buy a service I
>don't really want, Amazon Prime, and then have to tack on the service
>I do want for MORE MONEY.

The hell of it from Amazon's perspective is if they did it the other way, they'd have Prime subscribers who aren't interested in streaming anime bitching that part of their Prime fees are going to something they're Never Gonna Use. They get the tsuris either way. I'm not going to pretend they're in any way altruistic, they are an enormous corporation with an eye toward maximizing profit, but there are other factors in play. They've gotta play the percentages.

Also:

>$16 per month for access to the 2 or 3 shows I
>want is very steep.

Compared to $20-$30 per disc with three or four episodes on it? Or that much per VHS cassette with one episode on it, if you're old enough to remember those days?

I mean, I get that if you're in a place in life where $16 is a lot of money, then it's a lot of money, full stop. I'm lucky enough not to be there right now myself, but I was recently enough that I can remember how much it sucked. Relatively speaking within the context of the business, though, it's not exactly daylight robbery.

(The hundred bucks a year for Prime definitely is if you're not actually using its core services. I will not dispute that. I happen to use the shit out of it and come out well ahead in any given year, because I live in the ass-end of nowhere as previously described.)

>Especially as I live in Ohio and the amount of
>facilities Amazon has in Ohio now means I pay taxes on Amazon stuff
>because its considered in-state (or will be considered in-state
>shortly), which is just icing on the cake.

Yeah, that's a pain. One of the backhanded advantages of living in a state where business doesn't happen, I suppose. Maine nominally has a compensatory tax residents are supposed to pay on out-of-state mail-order purchases that would have been taxable if they had bought the same item within the state, but as far as I am aware, no one ever bothers to do the accounting required to know what it ought to be, particularly as it is virtually unenforceable.

>I realize I'm not the typical Amazon target customer. And that part of
>my dislike is a general dislike for "exclusive content". It just rubs
>me the wrong way.

Well, no argument there. I'm still annoyed about a few of the games that were only available on Playstation 2, and that was 250 million video-game-industry years ago. :)

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11. "RE: Re:Creators, aka UF Core: The Anime"
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   >>See, I LIKE going into stores, getting my hands on the thing, and so
>>forth.
>
>So do I! But I live an hour and a half from the nearest town big
>enough to have a movie theater, let alone 30-to-50%-decent retail, and
>for anything really interesting, I'd have to leave the state.
>It's great that you don't, but, well.
>
My point to living in a city.

>The hell of it from Amazon's perspective is if they did it the other
>way, they'd have Prime subscribers who aren't interested in streaming
>anime bitching that part of their Prime fees are going to something
>they're Never Gonna Use. They get the tsuris either way. I'm not
>going to pretend they're in any way altruistic, they are an enormous
>corporation with an eye toward maximizing profit, but there are other
>factors in play. They've gotta play the percentages.
>

Yeah I get that. I'm sure Hulu and Netflix users are the same way, to a certain extent. Hulu doesnt have any exclusive content currently anime-wise tho, AFAIK
>Also:
>
>>$16 per month for access to the 2 or 3 shows I
>>want is very steep.
>
>Compared to $20-$30 per disc with three or four episodes on it? Or
>that much per VHS cassette with one episode on it, if you're
>old enough to remember those days?
>
>I mean, I get that if you're in a place in life where $16 is a lot of
>money, then it's a lot of money, full stop.

I'm 2-ish years younger than you (class of 93, anyway) so I definitely remember the bad old days. And no, $16 isnt a lot to me per se, its the $9 for Netflix, $10 for VRV, $9 for Hulu, etc. Netflix I have partly because of my kids. Hulu has the few broadcast shows I watch, but on my schedule (I don't have cable or satellite, so no DVR), and VRV has most of the anime I watch. This Amazon anime thing is just one more thing. And right now they have 4 things I want to watch, but what about next season? Crunchyroll is sparse right now for me, tho I'm getting to catch up on stuff I missed
>
>(The hundred bucks a year for Prime definitely is if you're not
>actually using its core services. I will not dispute that. I happen
>to use the shit out of it and come out well ahead in any given
>year, because I live in the ass-end of nowhere as previously
>described.)
>

My brother is a borderline NEET (ask BZArcher, he's friends with him) so he uses the hell out of Amazon, he just let his Prime lapse when he lost his job for a while last year. I understand the appeal to some, trust me. Just not my thing.

>>Especially as I live in Ohio and the amount of
>>facilities Amazon has in Ohio now means I pay taxes on Amazon stuff
>>because its considered in-state (or will be considered in-state
>>shortly), which is just icing on the cake.
>
>Yeah, that's a pain. One of the backhanded advantages of living in a
>state where business doesn't happen, I suppose. Maine nominally has a
>compensatory tax residents are supposed to pay on out-of-state
>mail-order purchases that would have been taxable if they had bought
>the same item within the state, but as far as I am aware, no one ever
>bothers to do the accounting required to know what it ought to be,
>particularly as it is virtually unenforceable.
>
>>I realize I'm not the typical Amazon target customer. And that part of
>>my dislike is a general dislike for "exclusive content". It just rubs
>>me the wrong way.
>
>Well, no argument there. I'm still annoyed about a few of the games
>that were only available on Playstation 2, and that was 250 million
>video-game-industry years ago. :)
>
And console-exclusive characters for the same game on different systems. I still curse Squeenix for putting Kingdom Hearts games on, what, 5 or 6 different platforms? What the hell?

I realize that we've diverged hugely. I love the way the anime industry has gone for the most part. Simulcasting is great. I just wish I didn't need 4 different services (five, really, but VRV's 8-in-one takes care of part of that) to watch everything simulcasting.
And I don't pirate stuff. Except the newer Macross series, because fuck Harmony Gold. And oh my god are Japanese Blurays expensive (Macross Delta!), which is why I am balking at getting another streaming service right now.
Just give me one service that has everything I want, is that too much to ask?

-D-

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9. "RE: Re:Creators, aka UF Core: The Anime"
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   >I hate the business model Amazon seems to be,operating off of...

Then don't pay them and wait. The show will eventually be available legally through another means.

When I first read "Our Witches at War" I wanted to watch the Strike Witches anime. I looked around, and found that it was on YouTube, put on there by Funimation, so it was perfectly legal. They even had the subtitled version, which was my preference. But they were censored, which I found annoying, both because it was rather ham-handed and <cough> other reasons.

So I looked for the uncensored and found that it was available on the Funimation app. I paid for it, but the app was pretty terrible, and they didn't have much else I was interested in, and the Movie was only dubbed. So I finally bought the anime and movie on disc and cut out the app.

I'm sure if I waited long enough, the uncensored subbed version of it all would be available on one digital platform or another (I currently use Amazon, Netflix, Crunchyroll, Hulu, iTunes and, reluctantly, Ultraviolet).

(I don't like UV because it puts my movies off in another "cloud" that I tend to forget. If some discs I bought didn't come with free digital versions, I wouldn't have it at all. I don't even use iTunes that much anymore, mainly because I can play Amazon on my living room TV using my Xbox.)

Anyway, my point is, you're not really paying Amazon for the show. You're paying them for speed and convenience. You get it fast, and you get it now... and as someone who had to get money orders to send to semi-shady fan-subbers for VHS tapes of anime once upon a time... well, I'm feeling a "Get off my lawn!" moment ;)

(Man, some of the fansubbers were bad... there was one... Antarctic? Arctic, that all my friends thought were hilarious for the poor quality of their translations.)

Wait a year or three, and you can probably get a Blu-ray of the show for about $9. Wait five, it might be even less.



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10. "RE: Re:Creators, aka UF Core: The Anime"
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   >as someone who had to get money orders to send to
>semi-shady fan-subbers for VHS tapes of anime once upon a time...

"laser disc demo tape"

(Hell, most of those weren't even subbed. If you wanted to know what was going on, you had to print out a translated script you found on a Gopher site somewhere on the school's band printer and watch the show with a stack of unseparated wide-carriage fanfold in your lap, trying to follow along. And the translations were usually literal! You think Google Translate is bad at translating Japanese? Boy howdy. My understanding of what the hell was actually going on in Megazone 23 Part 1 and the first three Bubblegum Crisis OVAs is permanently impaired.)

>(Man, some of the fansubbers were bad... there was one... Antarctic?
>Arctic, that all my friends thought were hilarious for the poor
>quality of their translations.)

Arctic. Antarctic was/is the comics company.

Although, thinking about it, weren't Arctic's subtitle scripts deliberate parodies, not attempted translations? Or was that someone else? No, that was someone else, I can't remember their name now. Seems to me it was a riff on Pinewood Studios or some such, but it eludes me.

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12. "RE: Re:Creators, aka UF Core: The Anime"
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   >Although, thinking about it, weren't Arctic's subtitle scripts
>deliberate parodies, not attempted translations? Or was that someone
>else? No, that was someone else, I can't remember their name now.
>Seems to me it was a riff on Pinewood Studios or some such, but it
>eludes me.

To the best of my knowledge, Arctic's attitude was that fast and plentiful was better than good. It made copyright litigation less likely and paved the way for quality commercial releases by proving the market. They also had a policy at the time of withdrawing subs from distribution when commercial versions became available. (eg. http://anikionline.com/fame/Arctic_Animation/robert_woodhead.jpg?x ) There were things to fault them for, such as having "shipping charges" that were notably more than the actual cost of shipping, but I think they were a net benefit.

-VR
(Source: Lived in Vancouver at the time, watched many an AA fansub my housemate brought home, heard a lot of whining about their product, and worked with Brian Edmonds who introduced me to AA then later took over management of r.a.a.c)
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13. "RE: Re:Creators, aka UF Core: The Anime"
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   >Although, thinking about it, weren't Arctic's subtitle scripts
>deliberate parodies, not attempted translations? Or was that someone
>else? No, that was someone else, I can't remember their name now.
>Seems to me it was a riff on Pinewood Studios or some such, but it
>eludes me.

Pinesalad Productions, makers of "Dirty Pair Does Dishes" and others of that ilk. Probably all the stuff is on YouTube now.

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14. "RE: Re:Creators, aka UF Core: The Anime"
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   I know that you can find Revenge of BD and Dirty Pair Duz Dishes on YouTube now. Those are the only two of the four I've found so far. Here's their one (and only apparently) blog entry: http://pinesalad.blogspot.com/

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