20||0|855|0|yes 0|0|0|||1||Guitar%21|Offsides||20:28:53|06/14/2002|Not sure if this is the best place to post%2C but it%27s probably not the worst...%0D%0A%0D%0AI%27ve been thinking about it for a while%2C and today I finally went and bought myself a guitar. It%27s a simple%2C steel-stringed Johnson acoustic in blue%2C ironically model number JO-620 %28see Miki%27s guitar on the AoN instruments page - it%27s pretty much the same color%29.%0D%0A%0D%0AIt%27s a good bit harder to play than it looks%2C but all things considered probably not as hard as I thought it would be. I think I%27ve gotten the hang of how to tune it %28even if I still need practice%29%2C and the books I bought to leard how to play seem pretty good. Who knows - maybe one day I%27ll get good enough to play on stage %3A%29%0D%0A%0D%0AAnyway%2C I%27m just happy and excited about it%2C and I thought I%27d share.%0D%0A%0D%0AOffsides%0D%0A%0D%0AUnemployed netadmin seeking job... so what else is new%3F%0D%0AEPU RCW %23%26pi%3B%0D%0A%23include %3Cguitar.h%3E%0D%0A%0D%0A 1|1|0|||1||RE%3A Guitar%21|Laudre||01:27:47|06/15/2002|%3EAnyway%2C I%27m just happy and excited about it%2C and I thought I%27d share. %0D%0A%0D%0AVery cool%2C but be warned%3A 99.9%25 of guitarists devolve into wankers within six months of purchasing their first six-string%2C and most of %5Bi%5Dthem%5B%2Fi%5D never recover.%0D%0A%0D%0A%28I%27ve been playing bass since 1992%2C and I%27ve met precisely one guitarist who wasn%27t a wanker.%29%0D%0A%0D%0A-- Sean -- %0D%0A%5Bb%5DRabid Crack Weasel %2342%5B%2Fb%5D %0D%0A%22All tribal myths are true%2C for a given value of %27true%27.%22 -- Terry Pratchett %0D%0A%5Blink%3Awww.drelau.com%2F%7CThe Broken Link%5D %0D%0A%5Blink%3Awww.livejournal.com%2Fusers%2Feva_densetsu%2F%7CFollow my creative process%5D %0D%0A 2|2|1|||1||RE%3A Guitar%21|Gryphon||01:34:50|06/15/2002|%3E%3EAnyway%2C I%27m just happy and excited about it%2C and I thought I%27d share. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3EVery cool%2C but be warned%3A 99.9%25 of guitarists devolve into wankers %0D%0A%3Ewithin six months of purchasing their first six-string%2C and most of %0D%0A%3E%5Bi%5Dthem%5B%2Fi%5D never recover. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3E%28I%27ve been playing bass since 1992%2C and I%27ve met precisely one %0D%0A%3Eguitarist who wasn%27t a wanker.%29 %0D%0A%0D%0ANOTE%3A Guitarists feel the same way about bassists%2C and they all agree that drummers are worse%2C while drummers are filled with a massive disdain for everyone but themselves. %3A%29%0D%0A%0D%0A--G.%0D%0A-%3E%3C-%0D%0ABenjamin D. Hutchins%2C Co-Founder%2C Editor in Chief%2C Netadmin%0D%0AEyrie Productions%2C Unlimited http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eyrie-productions.com%2F%0D%0A 3|3|2|||1||RE%3A Guitar%21|Laudre||02:58:33|06/15/2002|%3ENOTE%3A Guitarists feel the same way about bassists%2C and they all agree %0D%0A%3Ethat drummers are worse%2C while drummers are filled with a massive %0D%0A%3Edisdain for everyone but themselves. %3A%29 %0D%0A%0D%0AExcept that I%27ve always gotten along with the drummers I%27ve played with%2C and more often than not found the guitarists vaguely annoying.%0D%0A%0D%0A%22Um. No. You don%27t get a five-minute solo.%22%0D%0A%0D%0AA good bass player %28as opposed to a %22rhythm guitarist%22 -- a role created specifically to try to create jobs for the overabundant supply of guitarists -- who can%27t get a job and so sits around playing a rhythm guitar part on a bass%3B see Duff McKagan%29 knows exactly what his job is%2C and does and does it well. His hunt is for the Groove%2C and he doesn%27t care about the spotlight.%0D%0A%0D%0AThat isn%27t to say that there aren%27t plenty of real bassists who %5Bb%5Dare%5B%2Fb%5D capable of holding the spotlight %28Billy Sheehan%2C Stu Hamm%2C Flea%2C Les Claypool%2C Victor Wooten%2C Jaco Pastorius%2C to name a few%29%2C but you don%27t pick up the bass to be out front.%0D%0A%0D%0AThough%2C as useless and overabundant as guitarists are%2C they%27re not nearly as bad as brass players. %28%22So%2C like%2C you%27re playing for two-thirds of the average song%2C and only playing for half of the songs%3F ...okay.%22%29%0D%0A%0D%0A-- Sean --%0D%0A%5Bi%5Dtrained to play jazz%2C funk%2C rock%2C and blues%2C and now strictly a blues man%5B%2Fi%5D%0D%0A%5Bb%5DRabid Crack Weasel %2342%5B%2Fb%5D %0D%0A%22All tribal myths are true%2C for a given value of %27true%27.%22 -- Terry Pratchett %0D%0A%5Blink%3Awww.drelau.com%2F%7CThe Broken Link%5D %0D%0A%5Blink%3Awww.livejournal.com%2Fusers%2Feva_densetsu%2F%7CFollow my creative process%5D %0D%0A 4|4|3|||1||RE%3A Guitar%21|beautifulvoice||04:08:45|06/15/2002|Personally%2C I have enough training to pay all of the following instruments decently onstage%3A%0D%0AViolin%2C viola%2C Electric Bass%2C Guitar%2C Flute%2C Drums%2C and Keyboards.%0D%0A%0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3EA good bass player %28as opposed to a %22rhythm guitarist%22 -- a role %0D%0A%3Ecreated specifically to try to create jobs for the overabundant supply %0D%0A%3Eof guitarists -- who can%27t get a job and so sits around playing a %0D%0A%3Erhythm guitar part on a bass%3B see Duff McKagan%29 knows exactly what his %0D%0A%3Ejob is%2C and does and does it well. His hunt is for the Groove%2C and he %0D%0A%3Edoesn%27t care about the spotlight. %0D%0A%0D%0AA rhythm guitar part on a bass%3F OUCH. As for rhythm guitarists%2C there are songs where you really need a rhythm and a lead or else the whole thing kinda comes apart%2C especially if you don%27t have a keyboard player. The Pretenders%27 %27Back on the Chain Gang%27 comes immediately to mind.%0D%0A%0D%0A%3EThough%2C as useless and overabundant as guitarists are%2C they%27re not %0D%0A%3Enearly as bad as brass players. %28%22So%2C like%2C you%27re playing for %0D%0A%3Etwo-thirds of the average song%2C and only playing for half of the %0D%0A%3Esongs%3F ...okay.%22%29 %0D%0A%0D%0AIt all depends on your band%27s setup. I%27m trying to get a groups set up right now%2C as a matter of fact%2C and not everyone will play in every song%2C because not every song calls for every instrument%2C simple as that.%0D%0A%0D%0AI wouldn%27t say I%27m strictly anything%2C because I play just about every style. I played the first trumpet part on my violin in Jazz Band and we got Second place in our class at Berklee Northeast. I played a Mozart concerto for my final NYSSMA solo and got a 94..%0D%0A%0D%0A The Beautiful Voice Admin%0D%0A-%5Blink%3Ageocities.com%2Flady_kozue %7CLady Kozue%27s Media Archive%5D%0D%0A-%5Blink%3Ageocities.com%2Fthebeautifulvoice%7CThe Beautiful Voice%5D 5|5|4|||1||RE%3A Guitar%21|Gryphon||04:23:05|06/15/2002|%3EViolin%2C viola%0D%0A%0D%0AI dunno if these should be counted as two separate instruments. I mean%2C you know the difference between a violin and a viola%2C right%3F %3A%29%0D%0A%0D%0A--G.%0D%0ABorge fan%0D%0A-%3E%3C-%0D%0ABenjamin D. Hutchins%2C Co-Founder%2C Editor in Chief%2C Netadmin%0D%0AEyrie Productions%2C Unlimited http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eyrie-productions.com%2F%0D%0A 6|6|5|||1||RE%3A Guitar%21|beautifulvoice||06:46:21|06/15/2002|%3E%3EViolin%2C viola%0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3EI dunno if these should be counted as two separate instruments. I %0D%0A%3Emean%2C you know the difference between a violin and a viola%2C right%3F %3A%29 %0D%0A%3E%0D%0AWell%2C besides the fact that the viola is a fifth lower than a violin %28the viola had CGDA strings where the violin is GDAE%29 the viola uses an entirely different clef than the violin for the majority of its literature. A good number of violinists would go completely blank if someone were to try and put viola music in front of them%28and%2C unfortunately%2C vice versa%29. I knew a viola player who also played piano at a college level%2C but couldn%27t play the viola in treble clef to save his soul. He always hated the fact that I was a better viola player than him after one year. But then%2C he kicked my ass at piano%2C so I guess life evens out.%0D%0AThis question reminds me how much I miss playing Beethoven string quartets.%0D%0A%0D%0A The Beautiful Voice Admin%0D%0A-%5Blink%3Ageocities.com%2Flady_kozue %7CLady Kozue%27s Media Archive%5D%0D%0A-%5Blink%3Ageocities.com%2Fthebeautifulvoice%7CThe Beautiful Voice%5D %0D%0A 7|7|6|||1||RE%3A Guitar%21|Gryphon||06:49:27|06/15/2002|[updated:LAST EDITED ON 06-15-02 AT 06:49 AM (EDT)]%3E%3E%3EViolin%2C viola%0D%0A%3E%3E%0D%0A%3E%3EI dunno if these should be counted as two separate instruments. I %0D%0A%3E%3Emean%2C you know the difference between a violin and a viola%2C right%3F %3A%29 %0D%0A%3E%3E%0D%0A%3EWell%2C besides the fact that the viola is a fifth lower than a violin %0D%0A%3E%28the viola had CGDA strings where the violin is GDAE%29 the viola uses %0D%0A%3Ean entirely different clef than the violin for the majority of its %0D%0A%3Eliterature. %0D%0A%0D%0ANo%2C no%2C no.%0D%0A%0D%0AThe correct answer is that a viola burns longer. Call yourself a musician and you don%27t recognize a Victor Borge quote%3F Sheesh. Kids these days.%0D%0A%0D%0A--G.%0D%0A-%3E%3C-%0D%0ABenjamin D. Hutchins%2C Co-Founder%2C Editor in Chief%2C Netadmin%0D%0AEyrie Productions%2C Unlimited http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eyrie-productions.com%2F%0D%0A 8|8|7|||1||RE%3A Guitar%21|beautifulvoice||07:05:55|06/15/2002|[updated:LAST EDITED ON 06-15-02 AT 09:27 AM (EDT)]%3ENo%2C no%2C no. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3EThe correct answer is that a viola burns longer. Call yourself a %0D%0A%3Emusician and you don%27t recognize a Victor Borge quote%3F Sheesh. Kids %0D%0A%3Ethese days. %0D%0A%0D%0ASo call me uncultured. Hell%2C it%27s only in the past year that I finally learned the reference to %22shrubbery%22.%0D%0A%0D%0AI think I have actually heard that one and promptly forgotten it. I have little respect for any reference to destryoing musical instruments %28especially something as expensive as a violin or viola%29%2C even in jest. Especially considering the music budgets of city school districts.%0D%0A%0D%0A The Beautiful Voice Admin%0D%0A-%5Blink%3Ageocities.com%2Flady_kozue %7CLady Kozue%27s Media Archive%5D%0D%0A-%5Blink%3Ageocities.com%2Fthebeautifulvoice%7CThe Beautiful Voice%5D %0D%0A 12|9|8|||1||RE%3A Guitar%21|Wedge||02:56:13|06/16/2002|[updated:LAST EDITED ON 06-16-02 AT 02:58 AM (EDT)]%3E%3ENo%2C no%2C no. %0D%0A%3E%3E%0D%0A%3E%3EThe correct answer is that a viola burns longer. Call yourself a %0D%0A%3E%3Emusician and you don%27t recognize a Victor Borge quote%3F Sheesh. Kids %0D%0A%3E%3Ethese days. %0D%0A%3Csnip%3E%0D%0A%3EI think I have actually heard that one and promptly forgotten it. I %0D%0A%3Ehave little respect for any reference to destryoing musical %0D%0A%3Einstruments %28especially something as expensive as a violin or viola%29%2C %0D%0A%3Eeven in jest. Especially considering the music budgets of city school %0D%0A%3Edistricts. %0D%0A%0D%0AGiven what he did for bringing classical music and piano to the %27common man%27%2C the above statement drips with frightening irony to me.%0D%0A%0D%0AIn deference to just being nasty%2C I strongly suggest you track down a sampling of his performances %28go to http%3A%2F%2Fwww.amazon.com and type Victor Borge in the search field to get an idea of what to look for%29 before making any absurd %28and I don%27t mean that to be snarky%29 leaps of logic like the one above. I%27d be willing to bet you%27ll be charmed to him within watching or listening to a few shows. I%27m not even a student of music%2C and he had me at the first show I watched--and not just for the humor%2C but for the absolute earnest love for the craft behind every performance.%0D%0A%0D%0AOk%2C soapbox off. That just touched a sore spot in my entertainer%27s heart. %3A%29%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Btable border%3D%220%22 cellspacing%3D%220%22 cellpadding%3D%220%22%5D%5Btr%5D%5Btd colspan%3D%222%22%5D%5Bhr size%3D%221%22 noshade%5D%5B%2Ftd%5D%5Btr%5D%5Btd%5Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fhomepage.mac.com%2Fwedge%2Fstuff%2Fnall.jpg%5B%2Ftd%5D%5Btd%5DChad Collier%0D%0ADigital Bitch%0D%0AJ. Random VFX Company%0D%0A%5Bfont color%3D%230000CC%5DRCW %231138%5B%2Ffont%5D%0D%0A%5Bi%5D%22Play that again%3F Will you buy another ticket%3F%22%5B%2Fi%5D%5B%2Ftd%5D%5B%2Ftr%5D%5Btr%5D%5Btd colspan%3D%222%22%5D%5Bhr size%3D%221%22 noshade%5D%5B%2Ftd%5D%5Btr%5D%5B%2Ftable%5D 15|10|12|||1||RE%3A Guitar%21|Laudre||13:06:08|06/16/2002|%3E I%27m not even a %0D%0A%3Estudent of music%2C and he had me at the first show I watched--and not %0D%0A%3Ejust for the humor%2C but for the absolute earnest love for the craft %0D%0A%3Ebehind every performance. %0D%0A%0D%0AYes -- Victor Borge was a genius. I%27ve only seen a tape of one of his performances... at one point in the show%2C he sits down in front of the piano%2C and starts playing... I think it was %22Dance of the Sugarplum Fairies.%22 He stops maybe half a dozen bars in%2C then turns the sheet music upside down and starts playing %22Entrance of the Gladiator.%22%0D%0A%0D%0AI was on the floor.%0D%0A%0D%0A-- Sean -- %0D%0A%5Bb%5DRabid Crack Weasel %2342%5B%2Fb%5D %0D%0A%22All tribal myths are true%2C for a given value of %27true%27.%22 -- Terry Pratchett %0D%0A%5Blink%3Awww.drelau.com%2F%7CThe Broken Link%5D %0D%0A%5Blink%3Awww.livejournal.com%2Fusers%2Feva_densetsu%2F%7CFollow my creative process%5D %0D%0A 16|11|15|||1||RE%3A Guitar%21|Gryphon||14:15:25|06/16/2002|%3EYes -- Victor Borge was a genius. I%27ve only seen a tape of one of his %0D%0A%3Eperformances... at one point in the show%2C he sits down in front of the %0D%0A%3Epiano%2C and starts playing... I think it was %22Dance of the Sugarplum %0D%0A%3EFairies.%22 He stops maybe half a dozen bars in%2C then turns the sheet %0D%0A%3Emusic upside down and starts playing %22Entrance of the Gladiator.%22 %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3EI was on the floor. %0D%0A%0D%0AI think my favorite of his jokes in that style was the one where the theater is darkened%2C he sits down and plays the first three notes of Debussy%27s %5Bi%5DClair de Lune%5B%2Fi%5D in entirely the wrong key%2C stops%2C looks puzzled%2C tries it again%2C looks puzzled again%2C gets up%2C shoves the piano a few inches to the left%2C sits down again%2C and plays it right. %3A%29%0D%0A%0D%0A--G.%0D%0A-%3E%3C-%0D%0ABenjamin D. Hutchins%2C Co-Founder%2C Editor in Chief%2C Netadmin%0D%0AEyrie Productions%2C Unlimited http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eyrie-productions.com%2F%0D%0A 13|9|8|||1||RE%3A Guitar%21|Gryphon||03:00:23|06/16/2002|%3EI think I have actually heard that one and promptly forgotten it. I %0D%0A%3Ehave little respect for any reference to destryoing musical %0D%0A%3Einstruments %28especially something as expensive as a violin or viola%29%2C %0D%0A%3Eeven in jest.%0D%0A%0D%0AThen you take yourself and your craft too seriously for your own well-being.%0D%0A%0D%0A--G.%0D%0A-%3E%3C-%0D%0ABenjamin D. Hutchins%2C Co-Founder%2C Editor in Chief%2C Netadmin%0D%0AEyrie Productions%2C Unlimited http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eyrie-productions.com%2F%0D%0A 14|10|13|||1||RE%3A Guitar%21|beautifulvoice||07:59:40|06/16/2002|%0D%0A%3EThen you take yourself and your craft too seriously for your own %0D%0A%3Ewell-being. %0D%0A%0D%0AIndeed I do.%0D%0A%0D%0A The Beautiful Voice Admin%0D%0A-%5Blink%3Ageocities.com%2Flady_kozue %7CLady Kozue%27s Media Archive%5D%0D%0A-%5Blink%3Ageocities.com%2Fthebeautifulvoice%7CThe Beautiful Voice%5D %0D%0A 19|11|14|||||RE%3A Guitar%21|Kingcake||04:06:54|06/17/2002|%3E%3EThen you take yourself and your craft too seriously for your own %0D%0A%3E%3Ewell-being. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3EIndeed I do. %0D%0A%0D%0AThen might I suggest you loosen up before you sprain something%3F Seriously%2C it does you absolutely no good to be this uptight about what you do. What are you saying to an audience when you perform with this complete lack of positive emotions%3F If you can%27t even have a %2Alittle%2A fun with what you do%2C it%27s time to worry. Speaking as a musician %28percussionist%29%2C I often notice that when I get mentally tense%2C I get physically tense as well. Tension leads to bad technique. Bad technique leads to bad playing. And bad playing leads to suffering for both performer and audience.%0D%0A%0D%0AIt%27s good to be dedicated to what you do%2C but this inability to find joy and fun in it will only hurt you. 20|12|19|||||RE%3A Guitar%21|PCHammer||10:56:06|06/17/2002|%3E%5B...%5D I often notice that when I get mentally %0D%0A%3Etense%2C I get physically tense as well. Tension leads to bad technique. %0D%0A%3EBad technique leads to bad playing. And bad playing leads to suffering %0D%0A%3Efor both performer and audience.%0D%0A%0D%0A%22Stress leads to anger%21 Anger leads to hate%21 Hate ... leads to -sucking-%21%0D%0A... %2Asniff sniff%2A I sense much b33r in you.%22%0D%0A%0D%0A- TTTFITN. Mm. 9|8|7|||||RE%3A Guitar%21|Logan_D_alt||07:22:45|06/15/2002|%3EThe correct answer is that a viola burns longer. Call yourself a %0D%0A%3Emusician and you don%27t recognize a Victor Borge quote%3F Sheesh. Kids %0D%0A%3Ethese days. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3E--G. %0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0AThe other punchline to this joke is --%0D%0A%0D%0AThere%27s no difference in size of instrument%2C it%27s just that Violinists heads are bigger. %5E_%5E%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A 10|9|9|||1||RE%3A Guitar%21|beautifulvoice||07:59:58|06/15/2002|%3EThe other punchline to this joke is -- %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3EThere%27s no difference in size of instrument%2C it%27s just that Violinists %0D%0A%3Eheads are bigger. %5E_%5E %0D%0A%0D%0AA claim I have scientific evidence to refute.%0D%0A%0D%0A The Beautiful Voice Admin%0D%0A-%5Blink%3Ageocities.com%2Flady_kozue %7CLady Kozue%27s Media Archive%5D%0D%0A-%5Blink%3Ageocities.com%2Fthebeautifulvoice%7CThe Beautiful Voice%5D %0D%0A 17|4|3|||1||RE%3A Guitar%21|Mephron||14:55:15|06/16/2002|%3EThat isn%27t to say that there aren%27t plenty of real bassists who %0D%0A%3E%5Bb%5Dare%5B%2Fb%5D capable of holding the spotlight %28Billy Sheehan%2C Stu Hamm%2C %0D%0A%3EFlea%2C Les Claypool%2C Victor Wooten%2C Jaco Pastorius%2C to name a few%29%2C but %0D%0A%3Eyou don%27t pick up the bass to be out front. %0D%0A%0D%0ACriminal nonmentioning of Geddy Lee%3B thankful non-mentioning of Sting. Cancels out. No penalty.%0D%0A%0D%0AFirst down.%0D%0A%0D%0A--%0D%0AGeoff Depew - Darth Mephron%0D%0AHaberdasher to Androids%2C Dark Lord of Sith Tech Support.%0D%0A%22I find your lack of clue disturbing.%22 %0D%0AEPU RCW %231 18|5|17|||1||RE%3A Guitar%21|Laudre||00:52:34|06/17/2002|%3ECriminal nonmentioning of Geddy Lee%3B thankful non-mentioning of Sting. %0D%0A%3E Cancels out. No penalty. %0D%0A%0D%0ASee%2C I%27ve always liked Geddy Lee%2C but as I don%27t actually own any Rush CDs %28a simple oversight on my part%3B I keep meaning to get a few%2C but there%27s always something else that catches my eye when I do go music shopping...%29%2C I sometimes forget to mention him when discussing the top n%25 of bassists. I also often forget to mention Bootsy Collins%2C despite being a fairly substantial P-Funk fan.%0D%0A%0D%0AAs for Sting... he%27s competent as a performer and songwriter%2C just not anything special enough to mention. I like the Police okay%2C and his music doesn%27t bother me in the background %28there%27s a few songs of his I do actively like%2C but still%2C there%27s just other things I%27d rather pay attention to%29. But I find him more interesting just as an object of pop culture than anything else%3B things like him showing up on %5Bi%5DThe Simpsons%5B%2Fi%5D just amuse the crap out of me. And I rarely even remember that he plays bass in any discussion of the instrument and its luminaries%2C even though%2C as I%27ve said%2C he%27s competent enough%2C because he%27s more notable as a songwriter and activist anyway.%0D%0A%0D%0ASo where am I now%3F Second and eight%3F%0D%0A%0D%0A-- Sean -- %0D%0A%5Bb%5DRabid Crack Weasel %2342%5B%2Fb%5D %0D%0A%22All tribal myths are true%2C for a given value of %27true%27.%22 -- Terry Pratchett %0D%0A%5Blink%3Awww.drelau.com%2F%7CThe Broken Link%5D %0D%0A%5Blink%3Awww.livejournal.com%2Fusers%2Feva_densetsu%2F%7CFollow my creative process%5D %0D%0A 11|2|1|||1||RE%3A Guitar%21|Offsides||09:32:12|06/15/2002|%3E%3EAnyway%2C I%27m just happy and excited about it%2C and I thought I%27d share. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3EVery cool%2C but be warned%3A 99.9%25 of guitarists devolve into wankers %0D%0A%3Ewithin six months of purchasing their first six-string%2C and most of %0D%0A%3E%5Bi%5Dthem%5B%2Fi%5D never recover. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3E%28I%27ve been playing bass since 1992%2C and I%27ve met precisely one %0D%0A%3Eguitarist who wasn%27t a wanker.%29 %0D%0A%3E%0D%0AUnlikely in this case - I didn%27t buy the guitar becasue I want to play guitar for the coolness factor - I was looking for an instrument that would complement the fact that I already sing%2C could be used to help me learn my vocal parts %28and vice versa%29%2C and would just plain be fun. If I ever get to the performance level with it%2C I expect it%27ll be accompanying whatever chior I happen to be singing with at the time...%0D%0A%0D%0AI have no dreams of being a great guitar player. But I do have way too much free time right now and learning a new instrument is a good use of it...%0D%0A%0D%0AOffsides%0D%0A%0D%0AUnemployed netadmin seeking job... so what else is new%3F%0D%0AEPU RCW %23%26pi%3B%0D%0A%23include %3Cguitar.h%3E%0D%0A%0D%0A