12||0|878|0|yes 0|0|0|||1||Qualtity of Modern fanfiction|Matrix Dragon||00:09:17|10/21/2002|%28Moved from the NXE board%29%0D%0A%0D%0A%3EMD from what I%27ve seen your Gundam fic isn%27t that bad%2C it just needs %0D%0A%3Emore chapters. %0D%0A%0D%0AHm%3F Someone here reads my stuff%3F Cool%21 Thanks for the compliment%21 And I finally kicked the writers block on that last week.%0D%0A%0D%0A%3EIn other words 98%25 of fanfiction.net%2C the other 2%25 being those that %0D%0A%3Eknow what they%27re doing. %0D%0A%0D%0ADing%21 Hey%2C check out this one for a laugh at most of the morons there%3A http%3A%2F%2F4dw.net%2Fdeathndragon%2Fgwfic%2Fbish_er.html%0D%0A%0D%0ANow%2C I admit that it%27s hard to write a good story on your first try. There are creations of mine that I really don%27t want to remember. But you have to learn as you write. For some reason%2C most people seem to just spit out the same packaged crap on a regular basis%2C and refuse to accept any kind of C%26C on the subject. I%27ve sent some people mail that can be summed up as %27interseting story%2C has potential%2C but please use a spellchecker%2C%27 only to be flammed and spammed for a few weeks.%0D%0A%0D%0AThere are pleasant exceptions to this rule of course. People like the EPU team%2C Grey and Animeaddiction for example%2C that write well and also respond to C%26C as the friendly advice that it%27s intended to be. Of course%2C they have to put up with the same people going on about how they mock the true vision of the series%2C or writing blantant self-inserts%2C etc etc. I guess there%27s just no way to win.%0D%0A%0D%0AOh%2C and Rod%3F I couldn%27t find your fics. The closest I came was some Harry Potter fan in the US military. Any clues%3F%0D%0A%0D%0AMatrix Dragon%2C J. Random Nutter%0D%0A%22Why else would they try to kill me%3F%22%0D%0A%22Is this a multiple choice question%3F%22%0D%0A- Bester and Susan Ivanova 1|1|0|||||RE%3A Qualtity of Modern fanfiction|drakensisthered||06:09:16|10/21/2002|Yeah%2C did you hear about Skysaber%3F Got so sick of flames that he removed all his fics from fanfiction.net and isn%27t going to post anything in future.%0D%0A%0D%0ASigh%2C he%27s a damn good writer%2C too. 2|2|1|||1||RE%3A Qualtity of Modern fanfiction|Matrix Dragon||06:42:28|10/21/2002|%3EYeah%2C did you hear about Skysaber%3F Got so sick of flames that he %0D%0A%3Eremoved all his fics from fanfiction.net and isn%27t going to post %0D%0A%3Eanything in future. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3ESigh%2C he%27s a damn good writer%2C too. %0D%0A%0D%0AAnd that boys and girls%2C is excatly what I%27m talking about. In this example%2C he was a Ranma writer that didn%27t write what a certain few wanted him to write. So he was flamed%2C spammed%2C and recieved a wide array of death threats and other random crap. All because he didn%27t write a work of fiction - FICTION%21 - the way the arrogant few wanted him to write it.%0D%0A%0D%0ANow I liked Skysabers works. It wasn%27t always well written%2C but he tried his best. He was in it to have a bit of fun%2C and give some other people a few laughs along the way. And people treat him like crap for it. They want him to write like the other 99%25 of the writers on the net. %0D%0A%0D%0AOh look%2C Ranma said something stupid. Oh look%2C Akane hit him with a mallet. Oh look%2C the writer can%27t even spell his characters names properly%21 Who the hell cares%3F I don%27t want to read different copies of the same story%2C only with different spelling mistakes. I want originality%2C new ideas%2C different paths for characters we already know%2C or perhaps some that the writer created that are more then cardboard cutouts.%0D%0A%0D%0AThat%27s why we read stories such as UF and NXE. It%27s more then a few poor jokes glued together with a poorly written lemon scene somewhere in the middle. It has characters that could pass for real people%2C with their own desires and personalities. It has a history that%2C despite taking a lot from other sources%2C is all its own. I doubt that I%27m the only person like that.%0D%0A%0D%0ASo why is it that people insult NXE%2C and love the crap%3F%0D%0A%0D%0AMatrix Dragon%2C J. Random Nutter%0D%0A%22Why else would they try to kill me%3F%22%0D%0A%22Is this a multiple choice question%3F%22%0D%0A- Bester and Susan Ivanova %0D%0A%0D%0A %0D%0A 3|3|2|||1||RE%3A Qualtity of Modern fanfiction|JeanneHedge||06:55:48|10/21/2002|%3ENow I liked Skysabers works. It wasn%27t always well written%2C but he %0D%0A%3Etried his best. He was in it to have a bit of fun%2C and give some other %0D%0A%3Epeople a few laughs along the way. And people treat him like crap for %0D%0A%3Eit. They want him to write like the other 99%25 of the writers on the %0D%0A%3Enet. %0D%0A%0D%0ADid you tell him that%3F%0D%0A%0D%0AIf people tell writers what they like%2C as well as what they don%27t like%2C it could make a difference between keeping on trying and giving up.%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0ARegards%2C%0D%0AJeanne%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Blink%3Awww.jhedge.com%7Chttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.jhedge.com%5D%0D%0AAnime%2FManga Forum%3A %5Blink%3Ago.compuserve.com%2FAnime%7Chttp%3A%2F%2Fgo.compuserve.com%2FAnime%5D 6|4|3|||1||RE%3A Qualtity of Modern fanfiction|BobSchroeck||08:03:05|10/21/2002|%3E%3ENow I liked Skysabers works. It wasn%27t always well written%2C but he %0D%0A%3E%3Etried his best. He was in it to have a bit of fun%2C and give some other %0D%0A%3E%3Epeople a few laughs along the way. %0D%0A%3EDid you tell him that%3F %0D%0A%0D%0AI certainly did%2C about a month ago -- gave him good words on the Eva%2FDual%2FSlayers%2FWar and Peace%2FLittle Red Riding Hood%2FWhat%27s on the shelf where I put my hand %2Athis%2A time fic %3Cgrin%3E he was writing. %28Despite the way I just characterized it%2C I actually liked it quite a bit...%29 I also encouraged him to go back to a couple of things he abandoned in mid-stream that I thought had a lot of potential.%0D%0A%0D%0AMy only problem with Skysaber was the random political%2Freligious lecture that was in almost every installment of his work. Some I liked -- even though it had no reason to exist%2C I really enjoyed the Talmudic argument he threw into ep 17 of Eva Rev -- but others were just irritating. Maybe it%27s better he faded away now%3B I got the feeling that the lecturing was starting to take over the story.%0D%0A%0D%0A-- Bob%0D%0A-------------------%0D%0AMicrosoft -- because God hates us. 7|4|3|||||RE%3A Qualtity of Modern fanfiction|drakensisthered||18:43:46|10/21/2002|%0D%0A%3EDid you tell him that%3F %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3EIf people tell writers what they like%2C as well as what they don%27t %0D%0A%3Elike%2C it could make a difference between keeping on trying and giving %0D%0A%3Eup. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0AYeah%2C we actually had an extended email conversation a while back and I usually commented on FF.net - where he got an awful lot of positive feedback from what I saw.%0D%0A%0D%0ABut bear in mind%2C Animeaddiction is currently on his fourth website thanks to idiot%27s trashing previous incarnations.%0D%0A 10|5|7|||1||RE%3A Qualtity of Modern fanfiction|Dreamshadow||09:00:32|10/22/2002|%0D%0ACan anyone point me to Skysaber%27s work%3F Nene stories usually seem to be the best....but I%27m prejudiced.%0D%0A%0D%0ATom %27Dreamshadow%27 Tjarks%0D%0A------------------------%0D%0ALong Live the Red Haired Hacker%21%21%21%21%21 11|6|10|||1||RE%3A Qualtity of Modern fanfiction|BobSchroeck||12:45:13|10/22/2002|%3ECan anyone point me to Skysaber%27s work%3F Nene stories usually seem to %0D%0A%3Ebe the best....but I%27m prejudiced. %0D%0A%0D%0AWell%2C that%27s kinda the point here. He%27s dropped off the Web%2C at least temporarily. You could look for %22Studio Vanir%22 in a search engine -- it%27s kind of his backup site. Last time I checked %28last week%29 it was still there%2C but it%27s far from a complete and up-to-date collection.%0D%0A%0D%0A-- Bob%0D%0A-------------------%0D%0AMicrosoft -- because God hates us. 12|6|10|||||RE%3A Qualtity of Modern fanfiction|drakensisthered||18:28:04|10/22/2002|%3E%0D%0A%3ECan anyone point me to Skysaber%27s work%3F Nene stories usually seem to %0D%0A%3Ebe the best....but I%27m prejudiced. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0AI hope to be posting his major works soon on my site... http%3A%2F%2F100megsfree4.com%2Fdrakensis%2Findex.html%0D%0A%28to insert a shameless plug%29 8|4|3|||1||RE%3A Qualtity of Modern fanfiction|Matrix Dragon||04:29:46|10/22/2002|%3E%3ENow I liked Skysabers works. It wasn%27t always well written%2C but he %0D%0A%3E%3Etried his best. He was in it to have a bit of fun%2C and give some other %0D%0A%3E%3Epeople a few laughs along the way. And people treat him like crap for %0D%0A%3E%3Eit. They want him to write like the other 99%25 of the writers on the %0D%0A%3E%3Enet. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3EDid you tell him that%3F %0D%0A%0D%0ASeveral times%2C along with a few words of support in regards to the constant abuse. The problem is that the few voices of support are usually drowned out by the hordes of abuse.%0D%0A%0D%0AIt%27s a shame really. I liked his version of Lina Inverse.%0D%0A%0D%0AMatrix Dragon%2C J. Random Nutter%0D%0A%22Why else would they try to kill me%3F%22%0D%0A%22Is this a multiple choice question%3F%22%0D%0A- Bester and Susan Ivanova %0D%0A%0D%0A %0D%0A 9|5|8|||1||RE%3A Qualtity of Modern fanfiction|BobSchroeck||07:47:44|10/22/2002|%3EIt%27s a shame really. I liked his version of Lina Inverse. %0D%0A%0D%0ADo you mean her proto-Nene hacker analogue from the tech universe%2C who got all her counterpart%27s magical knowledge dumped into her at once%3F Yeah%2C she was developing interestingly...%0D%0A%0D%0AI also was looking forward to seeing more %22Eva vs. Eva-J%22 interaction%2C too...%0D%0A%0D%0A-- Bob%0D%0A-------------------%0D%0AMicrosoft -- because God hates us. 5|2|1|||1||RE%3A Qualtity of Modern fanfiction|BobSchroeck||08:00:43|10/21/2002|%3EYeah%2C did you hear about Skysaber%3F Got so sick of flames that he %0D%0A%3Eremoved all his fics from fanfiction.net and isn%27t going to post %0D%0A%3Eanything in future. %0D%0A%0D%0AGeeze%2C so that%27s what happened. From my POV%2C he just up and vanished completely.%0D%0A%0D%0A-- Bob%0D%0A-------------------%0D%0AMicrosoft -- because God hates us. 4|1|0|||||RE%3A Qualtity of Modern fanfiction|Rod_H||06:56:49|10/21/2002|[updated:LAST EDITED ON 10-21-02 AT 06:59 AM (EDT)]%3E%28Moved from the NXE board%29 %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3E%3EMD from what I%27ve seen your Gundam fic isn%27t that bad%2C it just needs %0D%0A%3E%3Emore chapters. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3EHm%3F Someone here reads my stuff%3F Cool%21 Thanks for the compliment%21 And %0D%0A%3EI finally kicked the writers block on that last week. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3E%3EIn other words 98%25 of fanfiction.net%2C the other 2%25 being those that %0D%0A%3E%3Eknow what they%27re doing. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3EDing%21 Hey%2C check out this one for a laugh at most of the morons there%3A %0D%0A%3Ehttp%3A%2F%2F4dw.net%2Fdeathndragon%2Fgwfic%2Fbish_er.html %0D%0A%0D%0AHmm%2C ah huh. I think I%27ll go read That Darn %28Overstreet %26 Mann%29 Story instead. %0D%0A%0D%0A%3ENow%2C I admit that it%27s hard to write a good story on your first try. %0D%0A%3EThere are creations of mine that I really don%27t want to remember. But %0D%0A%3Eyou have to learn as you write. For some reason%2C most people seem to %0D%0A%3Ejust spit out the same packaged crap on a regular basis%2C and refuse to %0D%0A%3Eaccept any kind of C%26C on the subject. I%27ve sent some people mail that %0D%0A%3Ecan be summed up as %27interseting story%2C has potential%2C but please use %0D%0A%3Ea spellchecker%2C%27 only to be flammed and spammed for a few weeks. %0D%0A%0D%0AI%27ve only done a few of them never got that kinda response%2C but the one that really irked me I sent an edited version of the story back to them. I think I%27m their beta reader now but I haven%27t seen anything from them lately.%0D%0A%0D%0A%3EOh%2C and Rod%3F I couldn%27t find your fics. The closest I came was some %0D%0A%3EHarry Potter fan in the US military. Any clues%3F %0D%0A%0D%0AWell%2C for one thing that sure the hell ain%27t me. Me write Harry Potter fic%2C you gotta be kidding. I%27m a... er... anyway I use a completely different name over there and have only two fics up %28I must add to one of them someday%29 and I was in a weird mood when I wrote them. %0D%0A%0D%0A--Rod.H