12||0|711|0|yes 0|0|0|||1||Couple of Questions|D West||22:33:53|06/12/2003|Hi. I am going to be GMing a D20 game here in a couple of months and my players have asked me to run something different%2C so I was planning a campaign set in the Undocumented Features universe.%0D%0A%0D%0ASo%2C here are the questions%3A%0D%0A1%29 Gryph%2C would you have any problems with me running this%3F I%27m not going to try and change the world or anything%2C but I just thought it prudent to ask.%0D%0A%0D%0A2%29 If Gryph says yes%2C does anyone else here want me to post or put in a webspace the rules I am going to create to cover the parts of UF that aren%27t already described in a D20 product %28from what I can tell%2C basically everything that isn%27t from Star Wars will have to have rules written or converted for use%29%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0AFireball - It%27s what%27s for dinner%21 1|1|0|||1||RE%3A Couple of Questions|Gryphon||23:31:13|06/12/2003|%3ESo%2C here are the questions%3A %0D%0A%3E1%29 Gryph%2C would you have any problems with me running this%3F I%27m not %0D%0A%3Egoing to try and change the world or anything%2C but I just thought it %0D%0A%3Eprudent to ask. %0D%0A%0D%0AUh... I suppose not. People have run %5Bi%5DUF%5B%2Fi%5D-set RPGs before.%0D%0A%0D%0A%3E2%29 If Gryph says yes%2C does anyone else here want me to post or put in %0D%0A%3Ea webspace the rules I am going to create to cover the parts of UF %0D%0A%3Ethat aren%27t already described in a D20 product %28from what I can tell%2C %0D%0A%3Ebasically everything that isn%27t from Star Wars will have to have rules %0D%0A%3Ewritten or converted for use%29 %0D%0A%0D%0ADon%27t post them here%2C please. If they%27re where I can see them%2C I%27ll feel compelled to work on them%2C and I don%27t need any more projects.%0D%0A%0D%0A--G.%0D%0A-%3E%3C-%0D%0ABenjamin D. Hutchins%2C Co-Founder%2C Editor in Chief%2C Netadmin%0D%0AEyrie Productions%2C Unlimited http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eyrie-productions.com%2F%0D%0A 2|2|1|||1||RE%3A Couple of Questions|D West||00:08:40|06/13/2003|Thanks.%0D%0A%0D%0AFireball - It%27s what%27s for dinner%21 3|2|1|||||RE%3A Couple of Questions|pfloyd||09:10:26|06/13/2003|%3E%3ESo%2C here are the questions%3A %0D%0A%3E%3E1%29 Gryph%2C would you have any problems with me running this%3F I%27m not %0D%0A%3E%3Egoing to try and change the world or anything%2C but I just thought it %0D%0A%3E%3Eprudent to ask. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3EUh... I suppose not. People have run %5Bi%5DUF%5B%2Fi%5D-set RPGs before. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%0D%0AIf anyone has%2C could you get in touch with me%3F I%27ve been working on a Detian template %28as well as templates for members of the WDFSOC -- Special Operations Command%29 for GURPS.%0D%0A%0D%0A%3E%3E2%29 If Gryph says yes%2C does anyone else here want me to post or put in %0D%0A%3E%3Ea webspace the rules I am going to create to cover the parts of UF %0D%0A%3E%3Ethat aren%27t already described in a D20 product %28from what I can tell%2C %0D%0A%3E%3Ebasically everything that isn%27t from Star Wars will have to have rules %0D%0A%3E%3Ewritten or converted for use%29 %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3EDon%27t post them here%2C please. If they%27re where I can see them%2C I%27ll %0D%0A%3Efeel compelled to work on them%2C and I don%27t need any more projects. %0D%0A%0D%0AOh please... please... let me work on %27em... I%27ve got the Gaming Library from Hell%2C and can probably work %27em into nearly any system I own... with a bit of work...%0D%0A%0D%0A-- pf%0D%0A 4|3|3|||1||RE%3A Couple of Questions|D West||10:36:37|06/13/2003|[updated:LAST EDITED ON 06-13-03 AT 10:39 AM (EDT)]When I have a pleace to put it%2C I%27ll send you the link.%0D%0A%0D%0AFireball - It%27s what%27s for dinner%21 5|3|3|||1||RE%3A Couple of Questions|NeoRavenK7||12:28:22|06/13/2003|%3EOh please... please... let me work on %27em... I%27ve got the Gaming %0D%0A%3ELibrary from Hell%2C and can probably work %27em into nearly any system I %0D%0A%3Eown... with a bit of work... %0D%0A%0D%0ADang.%0D%0A%0D%0AWhen I get my own %27net access back could you teach me the art of table-top RPG%27s%3F Meant to get into a game or two when I was living in Richmond%2C but shit happens.%0D%0A%0D%0A-NeoRaven 10|3|3|||||RE%3A Couple of Questions|Star Ranger4||22:13:44|06/15/2003|[updated:LAST EDITED ON 06-15-03 AT 10:15 PM (EDT)]%3E%3E%3ESo%2C here are the questions%3A %0D%0A%3E%3E%3E1%29 Gryph%2C would you have any problems with me running this%3F I%27m not %0D%0A%3E%3E%3Egoing to try and change the world or anything%2C but I just thought it %0D%0A%3E%3E%3Eprudent to ask. %0D%0A%3E%3E%0D%0A%3E%3EUh... I suppose not. People have run %5Bi%5DUF%5B%2Fi%5D-set RPGs before. %0D%0A%3E%3E%0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3EIf anyone has%2C could you get in touch with me%3F I%27ve been working on a %0D%0A%3EDetian template %28as well as templates for members of the WDFSOC -- %0D%0A%3ESpecial Operations Command%29 for GURPS. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0AYou might want to check out%3A%0D%0Agurps-uf%40honorablemenschen.com%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A 11|4|10|||1||RE%3A Couple of Questions|Redneck||22:26:01|06/15/2003|%3E%3EIf anyone has%2C could you get in touch with me%3F I%27ve been working on a %0D%0A%3E%3EDetian template %28as well as templates for members of the WDFSOC -- %0D%0A%3E%3ESpecial Operations Command%29 for GURPS. %0D%0A%3E%3E%0D%0A%3EYou might want to check out%3A %0D%0A%3Egurps-uf%40honorablemenschen.com %0D%0A%0D%0AEr... that -is- an email address%2C not an URL...%0D%0A%0D%0ARedneck%0D%0A%0D%0AKris Overstreet%2C aka Redneck Gaijin%0D%0Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.wlpcomics.com%0D%0AWhite Lightning Productions - huge tracts of land for sale%0D%0A 12|5|11|||||RE%3A Couple of Questions|drakensisthered||02:05:21|06/16/2003|%3E%3E%3EIf anyone has%2C could you get in touch with me%3F I%27ve been working on a %0D%0A%3E%3E%3EDetian template %28as well as templates for members of the WDFSOC -- %0D%0A%3E%3E%3ESpecial Operations Command%29 for GURPS. %0D%0A%3E%3E%3E%0D%0A%3E%3EYou might want to check out%3A %0D%0A%3E%3Egurps-uf%40honorablemenschen.com %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3EEr... that -is- an email address%2C not an URL... %0D%0A%3E%0D%0AThis%2C OTOH is the url you%27re looking for%3A%0D%0Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fhonorablemenschen.com%2Fgurps-uf%2F 6|1|0|||1||RE%3A Couple of Questions|Laudre||00:17:08|06/15/2003|%3E2%29 If Gryph says yes%2C does anyone else here want me to post or put in %0D%0A%3Ea webspace the rules I am going to create to cover the parts of UF %0D%0A%3Ethat aren%27t already described in a D20 product %28from what I can tell%2C %0D%0A%3Ebasically everything that isn%27t from Star Wars will have to have rules %0D%0A%3Ewritten or converted for use%29 %0D%0A%0D%0AA word of advice -- use the firearms rules and lists from %5Bcite%5DCall of Cthulhu d20%5B%2Fcite%5D%2C not %5Bcite%5DD20 Modern%5B%2Fcite%5D. The Modern firearms section was apparently researched by way of watching a bunch of action movies %28which did not%2C unfortunately%2C include %5Bcite%5DWay of the Gun%5B%2Fcite%5D%2C just about the only truly%2C unqualified realistic depiction of guns and gunfighting I%27ve ever seen in the world of cinema%29%2C while CoC%27s was actually written by someone who knows%2C say%2C what the differences between SA%2C TDA%2C and DAO are.%0D%0A%0D%0A-- Sean -- %0D%0A%5Bb%5DRabid Crack Weasel %2342%5B%2Fb%5D %0D%0A%22All tribal myths are true%2C for a given value of %27true%27.%22 -- Terry Pratchett %0D%0A%5Blink%3Awww.drelau.com%2F%7CDrelau Productions%5D %0D%0A%5Blink%3Awww.thebrokenlink.org%2F%7CThe Broken Link%5D %0D%0A 7|2|6|||1||RE%3A Couple of Questions|Gryphon||00:26:06|06/15/2003|[updated:LAST EDITED ON 06-15-03 AT 00:26 AM (EDT)]%3EA word of advice -- use the firearms rules and lists from %5Bcite%5DCall %0D%0A%3Eof Cthulhu d20%5B%2Fcite%5D%2C not %5Bcite%5DD20 Modern%5B%2Fcite%5D. The Modern %0D%0A%3Efirearms section was apparently researched by way of watching a bunch %0D%0A%3Eof action movies%2C while CoC%27s was actually written by someone who knows%2C say%2C %0D%0A%3Ewhat the differences between SA%2C TDA%2C and DAO are. %0D%0A%0D%0A... so %5Bi%5DCoCD20%5B%2Fi%5D%27s system is realistic%2C while %5Bi%5DModern%5B%2Fi%5D%27s is fun to play%3F%0D%0A%0D%0AUm.%0D%0A%0D%0A--G.%0D%0A%5Bi%5Dyou were a %5B%2Fi%5DPhoenix Command%5Bi%5D fan%2C weren%27t you.%5B%2Fi%5D%0D%0A-%3E%3C-%0D%0ABenjamin D. Hutchins%2C Co-Founder%2C Editor in Chief%2C Netadmin%0D%0AEyrie Productions%2C Unlimited http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eyrie-productions.com%2F%0D%0A 9|3|7|||1||RE%3A Couple of Questions|Laudre||11:22:54|06/15/2003|%3E%3EA word of advice -- use the firearms rules and lists from %5Bcite%5DCall %0D%0A%3E%3Eof Cthulhu d20%5B%2Fcite%5D%2C not %5Bcite%5DD20 Modern%5B%2Fcite%5D. The Modern %0D%0A%3E%3Efirearms section was apparently researched by way of watching a bunch %0D%0A%3E%3Eof action movies%2C while CoC%27s was actually written by someone who knows%2C say%2C %0D%0A%3E%3Ewhat the differences between SA%2C TDA%2C and DAO are. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3E... so %5Bi%5DCoCD20%5B%2Fi%5D%27s system is realistic%2C while %5Bi%5DModern%5B%2Fi%5D%27s is %0D%0A%3Efun to play%3F %0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bcite%5DModern%5B%2Fcite%5D might be fun to play%2C if it wasn%27t researched so piss-poorly that it%27s downright painful to read. I%27ve also gotten my suspension of disbelief shattered so many times by Hollywood%27s inability to accurately portray the %5Bem%5Dfunctioning%5B%2Fem%5D of firearms %28taking the clip out also apparently teleporting the chambered round out%2C guns mysteriously decocking%2C etc.%29 to want anything to do with any portrayal of them that hasn%27t been reasonably well-researched.%0D%0A%0D%0A-- Sean -- %0D%0A%5Bb%5DRabid Crack Weasel %2342%5B%2Fb%5D %0D%0A%22All tribal myths are true%2C for a given value of %27true%27.%22 -- Terry Pratchett %0D%0A%5Blink%3Awww.drelau.com%2F%7CDrelau Productions%5D %0D%0A%5Blink%3Awww.thebrokenlink.org%2F%7CThe Broken Link%5D %0D%0A 8|2|6|||||RE%3A Couple of Questions|pfloyd||10:28:47|06/15/2003|%3EA word of advice -- use the firearms rules and lists from %5Bcite%5DCall %0D%0A%3Eof Cthulhu d20%5B%2Fcite%5D%2C not %5Bcite%5DD20 Modern%5B%2Fcite%5D. The Modern %0D%0A%3Efirearms section was apparently researched by way of watching a bunch %0D%0A%3Eof action movies %28which did not%2C unfortunately%2C include %5Bcite%5DWay of %0D%0A%3Ethe Gun%5B%2Fcite%5D%2C just about the only truly%2C unqualified realistic %0D%0A%3Edepiction of guns and gunfighting I%27ve ever seen in the world of %0D%0A%3Ecinema%29%2C while CoC%27s was actually written by someone who knows%2C say%2C %0D%0A%3Ewhat the differences between SA%2C TDA%2C and DAO are. %0D%0A%0D%0A%28After having grabbed both books from his library shelves...%29%0D%0A%0D%0AOkay... I compared the stats for one weapon only so far%2C namely the Beretta M92F. There are quite a few differences.%0D%0A%0D%0AHere%27s what I can suss from the general ideas%3A%0D%0A1%29 CoC d20 is supposed to be more of the realistic%2Fdeadly combat system... characters can die quickly.%0D%0A2%29 D20 Modern has more of the cinematic feel to it%2C rather than a grim and grittty genre. Characters are more of the cinema hero ilk%2C and can%2C therefore%2C take and deal more damage... or something to that effect. %28I have yet to actually play either of them%2C but that%27s my observations so far.%29%0D%0A%0D%0ASolution%3F%0D%0AIf I were to play D20 Modern%2C I%27d probably consider using CoC%27s damage and critical stats... then again%2C I%27d also look at Charles Ryan%27s Ultramodern Firearms for D20... Charles was also one of the brains behind D20 Modern%2C as well as one of my favorite games of all time%2C Millennium%27s End.%0D%0A%28Also have to look at Spycraft%27s stats for another D20 system.%29%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A-- pf%0D%0A%0D%0A