10||0|1638|0|yes 0|0|0|||||The Lovely Angels|Star Ranger4||22:44:21|01/17/2002|You know%2C after scoring the first 10 episodes of the orignal TV series %28thanks to Zoner%27s auctions%29%2C I really don%27t see how they get their nickname. Yes%2C there is some distruction%2C but nothing compared to the level that you see in... oh%2C Affair on Nolandia%2C for example.%0D%0A%0D%0AOf course%2C It COULD just be them toneing it down a BIT for TV... which would also explain why their such ditzes at times %28ususally when being shot at by large numbers of automatic weapons.%29%2C since the culture does seem to have a thing about women being not as good as men in some respects.%0D%0A%0D%0AAlso%2C in the Cannon %28deliberat misspelling for humor value%2C folks%21%29 is the Lovely Angel itself armed%3F I have seen a single instance of space combat where they shoot at someone... and they jumped out of the LA and used very large caliber personal weapons to to it.%0D%0A%0D%0A___________________%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bi%5DOf COURSE you wern%27t expecting it%21%21%5B%2Fi%5D NO ONE %5Bi%5Dexpects the %5Bb%5DFanish Inquisition%21%21%5B%2Fb%5D%5B%2Fi%5D 1|1|0|||||RE%3A The Lovely Angels|megazone||05:48:54|01/18/2002|%3EYou know%2C after scoring the first 10 episodes of the orignal TV series %0D%0A%0D%0AMinor corrections - those are 10 OAVs.%0D%0A%0D%0AThe TV series still hasn%27t been released.%0D%0A%0D%0A-MegaZone%2C megazone%40megazone.org%0D%0APersonal Homepage http%3A%2F%2Fwww.megazone.org%2F%0D%0AEyrie Productions FanFic http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eyrie-productions.com%2F%0D%0A%5Blink%3Acgi6.ebay.com%2Faw-cgi%2FeBayISAPI.dll%3FViewListedItems%26userid%3Dmegazone%40megazone.org%7CeBay listings - updated 01%2F13%2F02%5D 2|2|1|||||RE%3A The Lovely Angels|Star Ranger4||09:30:36|01/18/2002|%3E%3EYou know%2C after scoring the first 10 episodes of the orignal TV series %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3EMinor corrections - those are 10 OAVs. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3EThe TV series still hasn%27t been released. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%0D%0AOH. Gomen Naisai%21 %0D%0A%0D%0A___________________%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bi%5DOf COURSE you wern%27t expecting it%21%21%5B%2Fi%5D NO ONE %5Bi%5Dexpects the %5Bb%5DFanish Inquisition%21%21%5B%2Fb%5D%5B%2Fi%5D 3|1|0|||||RE%3A The Lovely Angels|Dreamshadow||09:45:02|01/18/2002|%3EYou know%2C after scoring the first 10 episodes of the orignal TV series %0D%0A%3E%28thanks to Zoner%27s auctions%29%2C I really don%27t see how they get their %0D%0A%3Enickname. Yes%2C there is some distruction%2C but nothing compared to the %0D%0A%3Elevel that you see in... oh%2C Affair on Nolandia%2C for example. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3EOf course%2C It COULD just be them toneing it down a BIT for TV... which %0D%0A%3Ewould also explain why their such ditzes at times %28ususally when being %0D%0A%3Eshot at by large numbers of automatic weapons.%29%2C since the culture %0D%0A%3Edoes seem to have a thing about women being not as good as men in some %0D%0A%3Erespects. %0D%0A%0D%0AIIRC%2C The OAVs were done after a move or two had been done. Also%2C the Dirty Pair came from some novels that were written long before any animation was done. In the books%2C MUGHI was described and sketched as a displacer beast looking creature.%0D%0A%0D%0AA lot of the background for the two come from these novels%2C though I%27ve never seen them or even been able to find them online. If you can find them%2C it might provide more insight for you on the background.%0D%0A%0D%0A%3EAlso%2C in the Cannon %28deliberat misspelling for humor value%2C folks%21%29 is %0D%0A%3Ethe Lovely Angel itself armed%3F I have seen a single instance of space %0D%0A%3Ecombat where they shoot at someone... and they jumped out of the LA %0D%0A%3Eand used very large caliber personal weapons to to it. %0D%0A%0D%0AI think it is...%2Ashrug%2A I also think they enjoy the personal touch%21%0D%0A%0D%0ATom %27Dreamshadow%27 Tjarks%0D%0A------------------------%0D%0A%22There are no answers%2C only cross references.%22%0D%0A%0D%0A 4|1|0|||||RE%3A The Lovely Angels|Logan D||12:41:50|01/18/2002|[font size="1" color="#FF0000"]LAST EDITED ON Jan-18-02 AT 12:46 PM (EST)[/font][p]%3Eis the Lovely Angel itself armed%3F I have seen a single%0D%0A%3Einstance of space combat where they shoot at someone... %0D%0A%3Eand they jumped out of the LA and used very large %0D%0A%3Ecaliber personal weapons to to it. %0D%0A%0D%0AIn short%2C yes. No matter which particular version of the ship they are using%2C it is _always_ well armed for it%27s size. The original series version %28the pink ship with the underslung looking extra engine pod and anvil shaped upper hull%29 probably had the single most powerful weapon that any of them had. The aperture on the front end of the bottom engine pod was an enormous energy cannon %28fusion%2C particle or Laser I%27m not sure%29. The ship also had some missile batteries.%0D%0A%0D%0AOther ships that have carried the Lovely Angel moniker have had various vaguely defined armament. Usually multiple laser cannon and missiles. The version used in the OVAs and Flight 005 Conspiracy had a missile payload that rivaled the Minerva from Crusher Joe. %0D%0A%0D%0A-Logan%0D%0A%28Edit - a clumsily misleading sentence. The missiles do NOT come out of the same aperture as the laser cannon%21%29%0D%0A-------------------------------------%0D%0A%22I need to selectively edit my mental images.%0D%0APlease hand me a fork.%22%0D%0A%0D%0AWilliam K. %22Bushmaster%22 Bushway%0D%0A------------------------------------- 5|1|0|||||RE%3A The Lovely Angels|StaticdashPulse||00:39:14|01/21/2002|My guess would be %22Project EVE%22 had a lot to do with getting their reputation%2C but that was after their reputation had been earned%2C so... I believe the title %22Dirty Pair%22 is kind of a running meta-joke as much as anything. The Angels are really no more destructive than most heroes%2C they just get a bad rap from warped reports. If you can get a copy of %22Plague of Angels%22 or %22Biohazard%22 you%27ll see what I mean.%0D%0A%0D%0ABlaming the Angels%2C to a certain degree%2C is like blaming John Sheriden for the Shadow War. He was doing what he thought best%2C but ISN had a louder voice than he did. Therefore%2C Captain Sheriden wasn%27t a war hero as much as he was a deserter. That%27s a loose analogy anyway.%0D%0A%0D%0AStatic-Pulse%0D%0A - the most impulsive post alive%0D%0A%5Ba href%3D%22http%3A%2F%2Fwww.darkbeast.com%22%5DDarkBeast.com%5B%2Fa%5D 6|2|5|||||RE%3A The Lovely Angels|Star Ranger4||02:34:20|01/21/2002|%3EMy guess would be %22Project EVE%22 had a lot to do with getting their %0D%0A%3Ereputation%2C but that was after their reputation had been earned%2C so... %0D%0A%3E I believe the title %22Dirty Pair%22 is kind of a running meta-joke as %0D%0A%3Emuch as anything. The Angels are really no more destructive than most %0D%0A%3Eheroes%2C they just get a bad rap from warped reports. If you can get a %0D%0A%3Ecopy of %22Plague of Angels%22 or %22Biohazard%22 you%27ll see what I mean. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3EBlaming the Angels%2C to a certain degree%2C is like blaming John Sheriden %0D%0A%3Efor the Shadow War. He was doing what he thought best%2C but ISN had a %0D%0A%3Elouder voice than he did. Therefore%2C Captain Sheriden wasn%27t a war %0D%0A%3Ehero as much as he was a deserter. That%27s a loose analogy anyway. %0D%0A%0D%0AI can believe that%2C especially after having watched all 10 OAV%27s. Most of the destrution was caused by everyone else... very rarely did the Pair itself cause them%3B the most glareing exception that the could be blamed for was on the penal colony.%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A___________________%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bi%5DOf COURSE you wern%27t expecting it%21%21%5B%2Fi%5D NO ONE %5Bi%5Dexpects the %5Bb%5DFanish Inquisition%21%21%5B%2Fb%5D%5B%2Fi%5D 7|3|6|||||RE%3A The Lovely Angels|drakensisthered||04:16:04|01/21/2002|%3E%3EMy guess would be %22Project EVE%22 had a lot to do with getting their %0D%0A%3E%3Ereputation%2C but that was after their reputation had been earned%2C so... %0D%0A%3E%3E I believe the title %22Dirty Pair%22 is kind of a running meta-joke as %0D%0A%3E%3Emuch as anything. The Angels are really no more destructive than most %0D%0A%3E%3Eheroes%2C they just get a bad rap from warped reports. If you can get a %0D%0A%3E%3Ecopy of %22Plague of Angels%22 or %22Biohazard%22 you%27ll see what I mean. %0D%0A%3E%3E%0D%0A%3E%3EBlaming the Angels%2C to a certain degree%2C is like blaming John Sheriden %0D%0A%3E%3Efor the Shadow War. He was doing what he thought best%2C but ISN had a %0D%0A%3E%3Elouder voice than he did. Therefore%2C Captain Sheriden wasn%27t a war %0D%0A%3E%3Ehero as much as he was a deserter. That%27s a loose analogy anyway. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3EI can believe that%2C especially after having watched all 10 OAV%27s. %0D%0A%3EMost of the destrution was caused by everyone else... very rarely did %0D%0A%3Ethe Pair itself cause them%3B the most glareing exception that the could %0D%0A%3Ebe blamed for was on the penal colony. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0AThat%27s the point as I understand it. 100%25 success rate%2C 75%25 casualty rate and it%27s NEVER their fault. Central Computer says so.%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0Adrakensisthered%0D%0A%0D%0ASHE%27S the %27Pirate Killer%2C%27 %27Klingon Spooker%2C%27 %27Big Trouble in a Little Package%2C%27 %27She Who Must be Avoided%2C%27 and %27Go Around the Other Side of the Nebula.%27 I%27m the dumb blonde comic relief. 8|4|7|||||RE%3A The Lovely Angels|Offsides||09:15:44|01/21/2002|%3EThat%27s the point as I understand it. 100%25 success rate%2C 75%25 casualty %0D%0A%3Erate and it%27s NEVER their fault. Central Computer says so. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0AOf course not - if it %5Bb%5D%5Bi%5Dwas%5B%2Fi%5D%5B%2Fb%5D their fault%2C the computer would probably reassign them. Trust the computer citizen%2C the conputer is your friend%21 %3A%29%0D%0A%0D%0AOffsides%0D%0A%0D%0AUnemployed netadmin seeking job... so what else is new%3F%0D%0A%23include %3Cparanoia.h%3E 9|5|8|||||RE%3A The Lovely Angels|StaticdashPulse||10:23:06|01/22/2002|%3EOf course not - if it %5Bb%5D%5Bi%5Dwas%5B%2Fi%5D%5B%2Fb%5D their fault%2C the computer %0D%0A%3Ewould probably reassign them. Trust the computer citizen%2C the %0D%0A%3Econputer is your friend%21 %3A%29 %0D%0A%0D%0AProof-positive of what a stable rampancy can accomplish%2C re%3A %22Sim-Hell%22 by Adam Warren. %28I just like the guy%21%29%0D%0A%0D%0AStatic-Pulse%0D%0A - the most impulsive post alive%0D%0A%5Ba href%3D%22http%3A%2F%2Fwww.darkbeast.com%22%5DDarkBeast.com%5B%2Fa%5D 10|3|6|||||RE%3A The Lovely Angels|Matrix Dragon||23:31:08|01/22/2002|%3EI can believe that%2C especially after having watched all 10 OAV%27s. %0D%0A%3EMost of the destrution was caused by everyone else... very rarely did %0D%0A%3Ethe Pair itself cause them%3B the most glareing exception that the could %0D%0A%3Ebe blamed for was on the penal colony. %0D%0A%0D%0AThe Angels almost never cause the destruction. It%27s the mad scientist pushing the button at the last minute%2C or the evil general deciding to take everyone with him when he dies%2C or that space station took a few too many missile hits during the battle.... no matter what the reason%2C they%27re not the ones that caused it. But%2C the media found good story material with them%2C and so %5Bu%5Dthat name%5B%2Fu%5D was created.%0D%0A%0D%0AI%27m not denying that the Angels can cause a lot of damage. It%27s a talent of theirs. But this happens rarely.%0D%0A%0D%0AMatrix Dragon%2C freaking out at the DBZ%2FDP fic he saw earlier %28Kei as a super sayian%3F%21%29