9||0|656|0|yes 0|0|0|||||Daimaru would be proud|goldenfire||14:36:51|11/04/2003|random fact %2323 gleaned from rewatching %5Bi%5DMatrix reloaded%5B%2Fi%5D%3A%0D%0A%0D%0AThat%27s a %5Bb%5DBlack Ducati%5B%2Fb%5D Trinity%27s on%21 1|1|0|||1||RE%3A Daimaru would be proud|trigger||16:07:31|11/04/2003|%3Erandom fact %2323 gleaned from rewatching %5Bi%5DMatrix reloaded%5B%2Fi%5D%3A %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3EThat%27s a %5Bb%5DBlack Ducati%5B%2Fb%5D Trinity%27s on%21 %0D%0A%0D%0ADucatum %28is that the proper plural%3F%29 are excellent. SF MoMA has one on display in their design%3Dart section. And it%27s also black. %0D%0A%0D%0At.%0D%0A%5Bi%5DI want to ride a motorcycle%21 But I want my first one to be a Triumph...a Ducati is wayyyyyy too powerful%5B%2Fi%5D%0D%0A%0D%0ATrigger Argee%0D%0Atrigger_argee%40hotmail.com%0D%0AManon%2C Maccadon%2C Orado%2C etc.%0D%0ADenton%2C never leave home without it.%0D%0A%0D%0A%22These guys are as obvious as a weasel on acid.%22 - Corwin Ravenhair%0D%0A%0D%0A 2|2|1|||1||RE%3A Daimaru would be proud|doghead||07:33:29|11/05/2003|%2A%2Aengaging motorcycle obsessive mode%2A%2A%0D%0A%0D%0A%3E%3EThat%27s a Black Ducati Trinity%27s on%21 %0D%0A%0D%0AI far prefer the Super Blackbird she used in the first movie. It%27s a real shame they had to pick the ugliest bike Ducati have built in the last 30 or so years - as far as I%27m aware they chose that particular model because it%27s one of the most agile bikes on the road%2C but why couldn%27t they have used an R1 or even a good old-fashioned Gixer%3F Ah well%2C at least they didn%27t use a Hardly Driveable.%0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3EDucatum %28is that the proper plural%3F%29 are excellent. SF MoMA has one %0D%0A%3Eon display in their design%3Dart section. And it%27s also black. %0D%0A%0D%0ADunno about you but us Scottish bikies call %27em Dukes %28pronounced %27dooks%27%29%0D%0A%0D%0A%3EI want to ride a motorcycle%21 But I want my first one to be a %0D%0A%3ETriumph...a Ducati is wayyyyyy too powerful %0D%0A%0D%0ANah%2C a Yamaha V-Max is way too powerful. Dukes are just moderately too powerful. That said%2C I can certainly think of worse %27first rides%27 than a Speed Triple. Admittedly%2C I personally reckon you%27d be better off with Japanese metal - all the European manufacturers are still trying to get their reliability issues cracked%2C something Honda et all managed thirty or so years ago. I%27ve seen enough Triumphs cook themselves in my time%2C though a good part of that was probably due to the riders thrashing the bikes to death. Ducatis%2C although very nice bikes%2C have a nasty habit of falling to bits%2C and the smaller Aprillias tend to seize unexpectedly all over the place. Japanese bikes may lose out on style points%2C but Honda definitely build the most reliable rides money can buy - as long as you don%27t hot them up too much.%0D%0A%0D%0A%2A%2Adisengaging motorcycle obsessive mode%2A%2A%0D%0A%28cough%29%0D%0A-------------------%0D%0ACalum J. %27Doghead%27 Wallace%0D%0AHairy Scottish Git%0D%0AHemingway once wrote%2C %22The world is a fine place%2C and worth fighting for.%22%0D%0AI agree with the second part.%0D%0A------------------ 3|3|2|||1||RE%3A Daimaru would be proud|Pasha||15:42:39|11/05/2003|%3EDunno about you but us Scottish bikies call %27em Dukes %28pronounced %0D%0A%3E%27dooks%27%29 %0D%0A%0D%0AI%27ve heard a similar nickname for them in the US%2C yes.%0D%0A%0D%0A%3ENah%2C a Yamaha V-Max is way too powerful. Dukes are just moderately too %0D%0A%3Epowerful. That said%2C I can certainly think of worse %27first rides%27 than %0D%0A%3Ea Speed Triple. Admittedly%2C I personally reckon you%27d be better off %0D%0A%3Ewith Japanese metal - all the European manufacturers are still trying %0D%0A%3Eto get their reliability issues cracked%2C something Honda et all %0D%0A%3Emanaged thirty or so years ago. I%27ve seen enough Triumphs cook %0D%0A%3Ethemselves in my time%2C though a good part of that was probably due to %0D%0A%3Ethe riders thrashing the bikes to death. Ducatis%2C although very nice %0D%0A%3Ebikes%2C have a nasty habit of falling to bits%2C and the smaller %0D%0A%3EAprillias tend to seize unexpectedly all over the place. Japanese %0D%0A%3Ebikes may lose out on style points%2C but Honda definitely build the %0D%0A%3Emost reliable rides money can buy - as long as you don%27t hot them up %0D%0A%3Etoo much. %0D%0A%0D%0AMy first bike was a 1979 Yamaha Y550 crusier style. Bought it in %2796%2C and it had nearly a lunar unit on the engine. It ran with a first time rider for a year%2C hit 42 out of the lower 48 states in one trip%2C and kept running %28with minor maintenence%29 until %2701. AFAIK%2C it%27s %2Astill%2A running.%0D%0A%0D%0AAs for why they didn%27t put her on an R1%2C well..having test ridden one recently%2C I can tell you that a%29 the agility of it is nowhere %2Anear%2A a Duc%27s%2C %28A tendency to need to lean %2Ahard%2A to get it to stand back up after a sharp turn%29 and it%27s also probably far to short to comfortably fit two riders on%2C and still be manuverable. Duc%27s are %2Along%2A for sport bikes.%0D%0A%0D%0ANow%2C I think this conversation is well dead. You%27re welcome to poke me on IM or e-mail if you want to continue it. %3A%29%0D%0A%0D%0A-- %0D%0A-Pasha %28Who rides a 2001 Yamaha RZ-1%2C and is a Shoei-head%29%0D%0A%22I invented Warp Drive%2C whatta ya got%3F%22%0D%0A%22I%27m the Norse God of Mecha.%22%0D%0A%22Well%2C I guess you win then.%22 4|4|3|||||RE%3A Daimaru would be proud|Kendra Kirai||02:55:40|12/04/2003|I%27m not into bikes%2C personally%2C but if I ever wanted one%2C I%27d want one custom built to look and sound just like the one Cloud rides in Final Fantasy VII. That deep%2C throaty rumble...%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0ANevermind. 6|4|3|||||RE%3A Daimaru would be proud|BLUE||22:14:14|12/04/2003|%3E%3EDunno about you but us Scottish bikies call %27em Dukes %28pronounced %0D%0A%3E%3E%27dooks%27%29 %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3EI%27ve heard a similar nickname for them in the US%2C yes. %0D%0A%0D%0AI%27ve always heard them called %27Ducks%27%0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%0D%0A%28excise long discussion on bike virtues%29%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0AI%27m more of a casual fan of bikes%2C meaning I can%27t afford one%2C but from what I%27ve read most stock japanese top-end superbikes all top out at about the same horsepower%2C mostly due to an agreement to try avoiding killing riders by making ever-increasing horsepower boosts. Wouldn%27t this pretty much mean that it all comes down to handling and personal preference %28since too much torque on a bike is just stupid%2C and after HP where is there to go with engine power%3F%29%3F%0D%0A%0D%0APersonally%2C I have always liked Ducati 900s and GSX-Rs. My favorite bike for looks%2C style%2C and overall coolness is the Bimota %28the last generation had Duc power plants%2C if I%27m not mistaken%29%2C with the forkless front end%2C but since I%27m a layman %28and could never%2C ever afford a Bimota even if they were still made%29 you all can laugh at me if you want. 5|1|0|||1||RE%3A Daimaru would be proud|BobSchroeck||19:16:56|12/04/2003|Didn%27t we already have this discussion%2C say%2C about six months ago%3F%0D%0A%0D%0A-- Bob%0D%0A-------------------%0D%0A...And all the girlies say I%27m pretty dry for a wet guy.%0D%0A 7|2|5|||||RE%3A Daimaru would be proud|goldenfire||15:57:31|12/05/2003|%3EDidn%27t we already have this discussion%2C say%2C about six months ago%3F %0D%0A%0D%0Aum...not that I can find%3F 8|2|5|||1||RE%3A Daimaru would be proud|PCHammer||16:55:48|12/05/2003|%3EDidn%27t we already have this discussion%2C say%2C about six months ago%3F %0D%0A%0D%0ASix%3F Not sure. One month ago%2C definitely%3B check the date on the origin post.%0D%0A%0D%0A- Lord Ilmartello%21%0D%0A%5Bi%5DThe King of ACROSS - Corn Dog Batter Consumed While-U-Wait%5B%2Fi%5D 9|3|8|||||RE%3A Daimaru would be proud|Kendra Kirai||17:37:37|12/05/2003|Ah crap%2C sorry folks. I didn%27t realize it was a month old...I thought it was a new topic. %2Asigh%2A I gotta learn to look more closely.