17||0|765|0|yes 0|0|0|||1||Changed my mind%3B BSG%2703 a travesty|Gryphon||20:30:03|12/13/2003|I just re-watched it and realized that Ron Moore has committed an enormous%2C unforgivable heresy in the re-imagining of this classic TV series. I don%27t know how I could possibly have overlooked such a huge%2C crippling flaw the first time through - I blame Boomer.%0D%0A%0D%0ANever mind the vastly improved visual effects. Never mind the presence of actual %5Bi%5Dcharacters%5B%2Fi%5D among the %5Bi%5Ddramatis personae%5B%2Fi%5D. Never mind the absence of the robot dog. None of it can possibly make up for the flagrant%2C %5Bi%5Dblatant%5B%2Fi%5D omission of a figure who looms so large in%2C who casts such a long shadow upon%2C the fundamental firmament of %5Bi%5DBattlestar Galactica%5B%2Fi%5D that nothing without him in it can ever dare to wear the name without inviting my scorn%2C my mockery%2C my utter disdain.%0D%0A%0D%0AYes%2C my brothers%2C let your eyes widen as the horror sinks in for you as well%2C you who were %28as I was%29 blinded to it at first glance by the cutting-edge visuals%2C the dramatic writing%2C and... uh%2C Boomer.%0D%0A%0D%0AIt isn%27t %5Bi%5DBattlestar Galactica%5B%2Fi%5D at all.%0D%0A%0D%0AIt can%27t be.%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bb%5DNot without Jolly.%5B%2Fb%5D%0D%0A%0D%0A--G.%0D%0A-%3E%3C-%0D%0ABenjamin D. Hutchins%2C Co-Founder%2C Editor in Chief%2C Netadmin%0D%0AEyrie Productions%2C Unlimited http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eyrie-productions.com%2F%0D%0A 1|1|0|||1||RE%3A Changed my mind%3B BSG%2703 a travesty|Nathan||22:20:56|12/13/2003|%3E%5Bb%5DNot without Jolly.%5B%2Fb%5D %0D%0A%0D%0A...%3F%0D%0A%0D%0ABlessed be.%0D%0A-n 2|2|1|||1||RE%3A Changed my mind%3B BSG%2703 a travesty|Wedge||05:43:43|12/14/2003|%3E%3E%5Bb%5DNot without Jolly.%5B%2Fb%5D %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3E...%3F %0D%0A%0D%0Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fhomepage.mac.com%2Fwedge%2Fpic%2Fbsgcast.jpg%0D%0A%0D%0AGiant 70%27s mustache guy on the far left.%0D%0A%0D%0AThey way they shuffled around all the other characters%2C who knows what he would have wound up being. %3A%29%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Btable border%3D%220%22 cellspacing%3D%220%22 cellpadding%3D%220%22%5D%5Btr%5D%5Btd colspan%3D%222%22%5D%5Bhr size%3D%221%22 noshade%5D%5B%2Ftd%5D%5Btr%5D%5Btd%5Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fhomepage.mac.com%2Fwedge%2Fstuff%2Fnall.jpg%5B%2Ftd%5D%5Btd%5DChad Collier%0D%0AJ. Random Pixel Pusher%0D%0ADigital Domain%0D%0A%5Bfont color%3D%230000CC%5DThe Captain of the Gravy Train%5B%2Ffont%5D%5B%2Ftd%5D%5B%2Ftr%5D%5Btr%5D%5Btd colspan%3D%222%22%5D%5Bhr size%3D%221%22 noshade%5D%5B%2Ftd%5D%5Btr%5D%5B%2Ftable%5D 3|3|2|||1||RE%3A Changed my mind%3B BSG%2703 a travesty|Nathan||07:52:29|12/14/2003|%3EThey way they shuffled around all the other characters%2C who knows what %0D%0A%3Ehe would have wound up being. %3A%29 %0D%0A%0D%0ASure%2C I know who Jolly -is-%2C and understand what Gryph is saying and all... I just have no clue how serious he is.%0D%0A%0D%0ABlessed be.%0D%0A-n 4|4|3|||1||RE%3A Changed my mind%3B BSG%2703 a travesty|Wedge||14:25:56|12/14/2003|%3E%3EThey way they shuffled around all the other characters%2C who knows what %0D%0A%3E%3Ehe would have wound up being. %3A%29 %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3ESure%2C I know who Jolly -is-%2C and understand what Gryph is saying and %0D%0A%3Eall... I just have no clue how serious he is. %0D%0A%0D%0AOh%2C well%2C I just went for the base definition of %22%3F%22.%0D%0A%0D%0AAnd I%27m certainly not going to tell you if he%27s serious... %3A%29%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Btable border%3D%220%22 cellspacing%3D%220%22 cellpadding%3D%220%22%5D%5Btr%5D%5Btd colspan%3D%222%22%5D%5Bhr size%3D%221%22 noshade%5D%5B%2Ftd%5D%5Btr%5D%5Btd%5Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fhomepage.mac.com%2Fwedge%2Fstuff%2Fnall.jpg%5B%2Ftd%5D%5Btd%5DChad Collier%0D%0AJ. 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Here%27s your accordion. 6|2|5|||1||RE%3A Changed my mind%3B BSG%2703 a travesty|Mephron||18:15:09|12/14/2003|%3E%3E%5Bb%5DNot without Jolly.%5B%2Fb%5D %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3EPerhaps he%27s currently Faceless Pilot %233%2C and will grow into his %0D%0A%3Escreen time when they turn it into a regular series... much like Anne %0D%0A%3Ethe RA began as RA Down The Hall and grew into the vital part of the %0D%0A%3E%5B%2Fi%5DValiant%5B%2Fi%5D crew she is today... %0D%0A%0D%0AThere was never Anne The RA Down The Hall.%0D%0A%0D%0ANow%2C there was Janice The RA Down The Hall...%0D%0A%0D%0A--%0D%0AGeoff Depew - Darth Mephron%0D%0AHaberdasher to Androids%2C Dark Lord of Sith Tech Support.%0D%0A%22I find your lack of clue disturbing.%22 8|3|6|||1||RE%3A Changed my mind%3B BSG%2703 a travesty|zojojojo||19:22:48|12/14/2003|%3EThere was never Anne The RA Down The Hall. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3ENow%2C there was Janice The RA Down The Hall... %0D%0A%0D%0AI just got back from a funeral... I think I can be forgiven a little mental slip...%0D%0A%0D%0A-Z %5Bi%5D%5B%2Fi%5D%0D%0A%0D%0ARabid Crack Turtle 3.14159%0D%0A---%0D%0AWelcome to Hell. Here%27s your accordion. 9|1|0|||1||RE%3A Changed my mind%3B BSG%2703 a travesty|JeanneHedge||20:11:27|12/14/2003|%3EIt isn%27t %5Bi%5DBattlestar Galactica%5B%2Fi%5D at all. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3EIt can%27t be. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3E%5Bb%5DNot without Jolly.%5B%2Fb%5D %0D%0A%0D%0AHey%2C I found Jolly%21 Kind of...%0D%0A%0D%0ATonight%27s re-run started at 7pm Eastern. At 8%3A06pm Eastern%2C the Galactica Vipers meet up with the Cylons. All the Vipers lose power%2C and the CAG starts calling for %22Jolly%22 over the radio.%0D%0A%0D%0ANo reply from Jolly%2C so we don%27t know whether or not he got a sex change too.%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0AJeanne%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Btable border%3D%220%22 cellspacing%3D%220%22 cellpadding%3D%220%22%5D%5Btr%5D%5Btd colspan%3D%223%22%5D%5Bhr size%3D%221%22 noshade%5D%5B%2Ftd%5D%5Btr%5D%5Btd%5Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.jhedge.com%2Fpurdue.gif%5B%2Ftd%5D%5Btd%5D %5B%2Ftd%5D%5Btd%5D%5Bfont size%3D2%5DJeanne Hedge%0D%0A%5Blink%3Awww.jhedge.com%7Chttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.jhedge.com%5D%0D%0A%5Blink%3Ago.compuserve.com%2FComic%7Chttp%3A%2F%2Fgo.compuserve.com%2FComic%5D%5B%2Ffont%5D%5B%2Ftd%5D%5B%2Ftr%5D%5Btr%5D%5Btd colspan%3D%223%22%5D%5Bhr size%3D%221%22 noshade%5D%5B%2Ftd%5D%5Btr%5D%5B%2Ftable%5D 10|2|9|||||RE%3A Changed my mind%3B BSG%2703 a travesty|Star Ranger4||00:55:33|12/15/2003|%3EHey%2C I found Jolly%21 Kind of... %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3ETonight%27s re-run started at 7pm Eastern. At 8%3A06pm Eastern%2C the %0D%0A%3EGalactica Vipers meet up with the Cylons. All the Vipers lose power%2C %0D%0A%3Eand the CAG starts calling for %22Jolly%22 over the radio. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3ENo reply from Jolly%2C so we don%27t know whether or not he got a sex %0D%0A%3Echange too. %0D%0A%0D%0AAnd we%27ll never know%2C either... since the next scene shows the Raiders pretty much blowing the living putz out of that force too... Ergo Jolly is%2C at best%2C missing and presumed dead. 11|2|9|||1||RE%3A Changed my mind%3B BSG%2703 a travesty|Gryphon||14:22:52|12/15/2003|%3E%3EIt isn%27t %5Bi%5DBattlestar Galactica%5B%2Fi%5D at all. %0D%0A%3E%3E%0D%0A%3E%3EIt can%27t be. %0D%0A%3E%3E%0D%0A%3E%3E%5Bb%5DNot without Jolly.%5B%2Fb%5D %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3EHey%2C I found Jolly%21 Kind of... %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3ETonight%27s re-run started at 7pm Eastern. At 8%3A06pm Eastern%2C the %0D%0A%3EGalactica Vipers meet up with the Cylons. All the Vipers lose power%2C %0D%0A%3Eand the CAG starts calling for %22Jolly%22 over the radio. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3ENo reply from Jolly%2C so we don%27t know whether or not he got a sex %0D%0A%3Echange too. %0D%0A%0D%0AFah%21 You miss the point entirely. In fact%2C your nitpickery only emphasizes the rightness of my complaint. By relegating Jolly to a throwaway offscreen death%2C the producers of this high-budget farce have not only failed to redeem themselves%2C they have MOCKED THE VERY ESSENCE OF ALL THAT IS GOOD AND TRUE.%0D%0A%0D%0AMy disgust with them is %5Bi%5Dlimitless%5B%2Fi%5D.%0D%0A%0D%0A--G.%0D%0A-%3E%3C-%0D%0ABenjamin D. Hutchins%2C Co-Founder%2C Editor in Chief%2C Netadmin%0D%0AEyrie Productions%2C Unlimited http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eyrie-productions.com%2F 12|3|11|||||RE%3A Changed my mind%3B BSG%2703 a travesty|ShoIshogi||01:53:43|12/16/2003|%0D%0A%3EFah%21 You miss the point entirely. In fact%2C your nitpickery only %0D%0A%3Eemphasizes the rightness of my complaint. By relegating Jolly to a %0D%0A%3Ethrowaway offscreen death%2C the producers of this high-budget farce %0D%0A%3Ehave not only failed to redeem themselves%2C they have MOCKED THE VERY %0D%0A%3EESSENCE OF ALL THAT IS GOOD AND TRUE. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3EMy disgust with them is %5Bi%5Dlimitless%5B%2Fi%5D. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3E--G. %0D%0A%3E-%3E%3C- %0D%0A%3EBenjamin D. Hutchins%2C Co-Founder%2C Editor in Chief%2C Netadmin %0D%0A%3EEyrie Productions%2C Unlimited http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eyrie-productions.com%2F %0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0AMy disgust was complete at Starbuck being a woman. 13|4|12|||1||RE%3A Changed my mind%3B BSG%2703 a travesty|Wedge||02:52:03|12/16/2003|%3E%3EFah%21 You miss the point entirely. In fact%2C your nitpickery only %0D%0A%3E%3Eemphasizes the rightness of my complaint. By relegating Jolly to a %0D%0A%3E%3Ethrowaway offscreen death%2C the producers of this high-budget farce %0D%0A%3E%3Ehave not only failed to redeem themselves%2C they have MOCKED THE VERY %0D%0A%3E%3EESSENCE OF ALL THAT IS GOOD AND TRUE. %0D%0A%3E%3E%0D%0A%3E%3EMy disgust with them is %5Bi%5Dlimitless%5B%2Fi%5D. %0D%0A%3E%3E%0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3EMy disgust was complete at Starbuck being a woman. %0D%0A%0D%0A%3Cpoints and laughs%3E%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Btable border%3D%220%22 cellspacing%3D%220%22 cellpadding%3D%220%22%5D%5Btr%5D%5Btd colspan%3D%222%22%5D%5Bhr size%3D%221%22 noshade%5D%5B%2Ftd%5D%5Btr%5D%5Btd%5Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fhomepage.mac.com%2Fwedge%2Fstuff%2Fnall.jpg%5B%2Ftd%5D%5Btd%5DChad Collier%0D%0AJ. Random Pixel Pusher%0D%0ADigital Domain%0D%0A%5Bfont color%3D%230000CC%5DThe Captain of the Gravy Train%5B%2Ffont%5D%5B%2Ftd%5D%5B%2Ftr%5D%5Btr%5D%5Btd colspan%3D%222%22%5D%5Bhr size%3D%221%22 noshade%5D%5B%2Ftd%5D%5Btr%5D%5B%2Ftable%5D 15|5|13|||||RE%3A Changed my mind%3B BSG%2703 a travesty|WengFook||06:48:59|12/16/2003|%3E%3E%3EFah%21 You miss the point entirely. In fact%2C your nitpickery only %0D%0A%3E%3E%3Eemphasizes the rightness of my complaint. By relegating Jolly to a %0D%0A%3E%3E%3Ethrowaway offscreen death%2C the producers of this high-budget farce %0D%0A%3E%3E%3Ehave not only failed to redeem themselves%2C they have MOCKED THE VERY %0D%0A%3E%3E%3EESSENCE OF ALL THAT IS GOOD AND TRUE. %0D%0A%3E%3E%3E%0D%0A%3E%3E%3EMy disgust with them is %5Bi%5Dlimitless%5B%2Fi%5D. %0D%0A%3E%3E%3E%0D%0A%3E%3E%0D%0A%3E%3EMy disgust was complete at Starbuck being a woman. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3E%3Cpoints and laughs%3E %0D%0A%0D%0AI dunno but the whole comment seems awfully wrong somehow... 14|4|12|||1||RE%3A Changed my mind%3B BSG%2703 a travesty|Nathan||03:48:23|12/16/2003|%3EMy disgust was complete at Starbuck being a woman. %0D%0A%0D%0AMine%27s not. Yow%21%0D%0A%0D%0ABlessed be.%0D%0A-n 16|1|0|||1||RE%3A Changed my mind%3B BSG%2703 a travesty|McFortner||20:50:26|01/03/2004|%0D%0A%3EIt isn%27t %5Bi%5DBattlestar Galactica%5B%2Fi%5D at all. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3EIt can%27t be. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3E%5Bb%5DNot without Jolly.%5B%2Fb%5D %0D%0A%0D%0AIs it just me%2C or does this have the whole %22%5Bi%5DPay no attention to the man behind the curtain%5B%2Fi%5D%22 feel to it%3F%0D%0A%0D%0AOk%2C Gryph%2C what do you have up your sleeve%3F %3B%29%0D%0A%0D%0AMichael%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Btable border%3D%220%22 cellspacing%3D%220%22 cellpadding%3D%220%22%5D%5Btr%5D%5Btd colspan%3D%222%22%5D%5Bhr%5D%5B%2Ftd%5D%5B%2Ftr%5D%5Btr%5D%5Btd width%3D%2265%22%5Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.railroadforum.com%2Fupload%2Fmcfortner%2Fsabrina.gif%5B%2Ftd%5D%0D%0A%5Btd%5D%5Bfont color%3D%22black%22 size%3D-1%5DMichael C. Fortner%5B%2Ffont%5D%5Bfont color%3D%22red%22 size%3D-1%5D %0D%0ARCW %232%5Bsup%5D%28n%2B1%29%5B%2Fsup%5D%5B%2Ffont%5D%0D%0A%5Bfont color%3D%22green%22 size%3D-1%5D I may not fly high with the eagles%2C but %0D%0Aweasels don%27t get sucked into jet engines%21%5B%2Ffont%5D%5B%2Ftd%5D%5B%2Ftr%5D%5Btr%5D%5Btd colspan%3D%222%22%5D%5Bhr%5D%5B%2Ftd%5D%5B%2Ftr%5D%5B%2Ftable%5D %0D%0A 17|2|16|||||RE%3A Changed my mind%3B BSG%2703 a travesty|kevncody||21:11:26|01/03/2004|%3EOk%2C Gryph%2C what do you have up your sleeve%3F %3B%29 %0D%0A%0D%0AHis Arm%2C The Bloody Card%2C and his Lens all come to mind...%0D%0A%0D%0AKevin L. Cody%0D%0APre-reader for%3A%0D%0A%0D%0ADrunkard%27s Walk %28The series%29%0D%0ALiquid Courage %28and sequels%29%0D%0APagliacci %28Now in production%29%0D%0A