15||0|810|0|yes 0|0|0|||||Hands of FATE|MysticW2002||15:09:44|10/28/2004|Umm%2C yeah. I don%27t know if Gryph and company allow this%2C but I haven%27t seen anything saying -not- to advertize one%27s own work... And I think the NXE fans might enjoy this.%0D%0A%0D%0ABefore you read%2C know this%3A Although some parts are Eyrie-inspired%2C this is NOT a fic based in any Eyrieverse. I don%27t expect these to be compared to any Gryph-level writing%3B they%27re good%2C or so I%27ve been told%2C but they%27re not -that- good.%0D%0A%0D%0AThe two episodes completed thus far are about 50k each. I have plans for two more%2C and intend to be finished with the whole series within four weeks. Whether the remaining episodes are more than 50k remains to be seen. They may be%3B but they might not be. I -might- even do something akin to a feature length piece at the end. But I%27m not making any guarantees.%0D%0A%0D%0ATo my knowledge%2C the characters are original%2C barring similar or identical names. I%27ve borrowed a few concepts I%27ve seen used in Eyrie fics%3B I tried to give credit where due%2C but I might%27ve missed something%3B tell me if I did%2C and I%27ll put in a credits entry. Spelling and grammar aren%27t word-perfect%2C but they%27re the best I could do in Notepad and NoteTab. Flame me%2C crit me%2C do as you see fit%3B I%27ll use the input in the next one%2C and try to make it a better series in general.%0D%0A%0D%0AThe links are at the bottom%2C in my sig. Read on%2C MacDuff%21%0D%0A%0D%0A--- 1|1|0|||||RE%3A Hands of FATE|Slarti||16:50:42|10/28/2004|I%27m afraid I%27m gonna have to call foul here. You%27re in violation of the law that says that titles including the words %22Of Fate%22 are only allowed if the story in question features either Torgo or the Helm Of Nabu as primary element%28s%29. You%27re gonna have to at least change the name of your fic. Sorry%2C man.%0D%0A%0D%0ASlarti 2|2|1|||||RE%3A Hands of FATE|MysticW2002||18:12:05|10/28/2004|[updated:LAST EDITED ON 10-28-04 AT 06:16 PM (EDT)]%3EI%27m afraid I%27m gonna have to call foul here. You%27re in violation of %0D%0A%3Ethe law that says that titles including the words %22Of Fate%22 are only %0D%0A%3Eallowed if the story in question features either Torgo or the Helm Of %0D%0A%3ENabu as primary element%28s%29. You%27re gonna have to at least change the %0D%0A%3Ename of your fic. Sorry%2C man. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3ESlarti %0D%0A%0D%0AI DO hope you%27re kidding. Also... I don%27t think I know you. %2Ashrug%2A %27s not like I%27ve been on the forums long%2C but I thought I%27d figured out who the mods and admins were.%0D%0A%0D%0ABut%2C if you%27re not kidding...%0D%0A%0D%0A1%3A FATE is an organization. An ORIGINAL organization. Not %27Fate%27%2C %27FATE%27. Ya%3F%0D%0A2%3A This is NOT fanfiction. It%27s fiction. There%27s a difference.%0D%0A3%3A %22Torgo%22%3F %22Helm of Nabu%22%3F Whadafa%3F %28if you need a translation%2C I can provide it.%29%0D%0A4%3A Did you read the story%3F If not%2C you should. It explains much more than I can%2C sleep deprived as I am.%0D%0AAnd%2C the crowning glory of all defunctions%3A%0D%0A5%3A All%27s fair in fiction writing%2C as long as you don%27t tread on the wrong people%27s feet. 3|3|2|||1||RE%3A Hands of FATE|Gryphon||19:11:55|10/28/2004|You%27re gettin%27 pretty stroppy for a guy with a four-digit number in his nick who%27s posting in the wrong folder. The stuff above that blue stripe is for %5Bi%5DEPU%5B%2Fi%5D project discussion. You wanted General%2C or even more appropriately the %22this doesn%27t really fit anywhere else%22 catchall we call private-mail.%0D%0A%0D%0A--G.%0D%0A%3E%3C-%0D%0ABenjamin D. Hutchins%2C Co-Founder%2C Editor in Chief%2C Netadmin%0D%0AEyrie Productions%2C Unlimited http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eyrie-productions.com%2F%0D%0A 4|4|3|||||RE%3A Hands of FATE|MysticW2002||21:12:41|10/28/2004|Sorry%2C Gryph. Wasn%27t trying to be snappy%2C or stroppy%2C or whatever ya called it. Remember%2C I%27m operating on maybe 12 hours sleep in the past 72%2C in one- and two-hour intervals. Sleep dep... It%27s a killer.%0D%0A%0D%0AI really didn%27t know that%2C about the blue-line being the breaking point%3B and the %27four digit number%27 is the year I graduated%3B it%27s kinda significant to me. Of course%2C being unitiated in the annals of Eyrie Forumdom%2C I kinda figured I%27d use a name some here are familiar with. Mayhap I should work up another nic...%0D%0A%0D%0AI really -do- apologize for being brash. This... just hasn%27t been my week. Y%27know how it goes. 13|5|4|||1||RE%3A Hands of FATE|Gryphon||15:07:12|11/01/2004|%3ESorry%2C Gryph. Wasn%27t trying to be snappy%2C or stroppy%2C or whatever ya %0D%0A%3Ecalled it. Remember%2C I%27m operating on maybe 12 hours sleep in the %0D%0A%3Epast 72%2C in one- and two-hour intervals. Sleep dep... It%27s a killer. %0D%0A%0D%0AIt always amuses me when someone seeks to excuse bad behavior with something like this. If you%27re that short on sleep%2C or that whacked up on cold medication%2C or whatever%2C then %5Bi%5Ddon%27t post%5B%2Fi%5D. In fact%2C you might even consider unplugging yourself from the Matrix and %5Bi%5Dgoing the hell to sleep.%5B%2Fi%5D The Internet will still be here when you get back.%0D%0A%0D%0AHonestly%2C I%27m not sure which is the thing that bothers me more about these boards lately - the fact that there%27s so little traffic%2C or the fact that so much of what%27s left wouldn%27t have been posted in the first place if the people who%27d posted it had just stopped to think for a couple of seconds.%0D%0A%0D%0A--G.%0D%0A-%3E%3C-%0D%0ABenjamin D. Hutchins%2C Co-Founder%2C Editor in Chief%2C Netadmin%0D%0AEyrie Productions%2C Unlimited http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eyrie-productions.com%2F%0D%0A 5|2|1|||1||RE%3A Hands of FATE|NeoRavenK7||11:30:02|10/30/2004|%3EI%27m afraid I%27m gonna have to call foul here. You%27re in violation of %0D%0A%3Ethe law that says that titles including the words %22Of Fate%22 are only %0D%0A%3Eallowed if the story in question features either Torgo or the Helm Of %0D%0A%3ENabu as primary element%28s%29. You%27re gonna have to at least change the %0D%0A%3Ename of your fic. Sorry%2C man. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3ESlarti%0D%0A%0D%0AErrr... Forgive me%2C but I fail to see the significance here. Would you kindly explain%2C because like my sleep deprived friend%2C I too have never heard of either Torgo or the Helm Of Nabu.%0D%0A%0D%0A-NeoRaven%0D%0AHobbes%3A %22I%27ve never seen raisin bran do that before.%22%0D%0ACalvin%3A %22I put in an alcaseltzer.%22 6|3|5|||||RE%3A Hands of FATE|Slarti||12:13:40|10/30/2004|%3Eyou kindly explain%2C because like my sleep deprived friend%2C I too have %0D%0A%3Enever heard of either Torgo or the Helm Of Nabu. %0D%0A%0D%0AHave neither of you heard of %5Blink%3Awww.google.com%7CGoogle%5D%3F%21 First page of hits from Googling either %5Blink%3Awww.torgo.org%2Ftorgo%2F%7C%22Torgo%22%5D or %5Blink%3Amy.execpc.com%2F%7Eicicle%2FDRFATE.html%7C%22Helm of Nabu%22%5D would%27ve told you what I was talking about. This isn%27t %22get some help from the librarian%22 level research here%2C people. It%27s a quick Google search that gives immediate answers. Is that really so freakin%27 hard%3F%0D%0A%0D%0A%28Hell%2C never mind that a %5Blink%3Awww.eyrie-productions.com%2FForum-docs%2FDCForumID1%2F1629.html%7Creference to the Helm of Nabu%5D was made -- and %5Bi%5Dexplained%5B%2Fi%5D -- on %5Bi%5Dthese very Forums%5B%2Fi%5D not %5Bi%5Dtwo freakin%27 weeks ago%5B%2Fi%5D. C%27mon%2C people...%29%0D%0A%0D%0ASlarti 7|4|6|||||RE%3A Hands of FATE|MysticW2002||20:11:06|10/30/2004|%0D%0A%3EHave neither of you heard of Google%3F%21 %0D%0A%0D%0AI dislike Google on many levels. Far too many to list here.%0D%0A%0D%0A%3EFirst page of hits from Googling either %22Torgo%22 or %22Helm of Nabu%22 %0D%0A%3Ewould%27ve told you what I was talking about. This isn%27t %22get some %0D%0A%3Ehelp from the librarian%22 level research here%2C people. It%27s a quick %0D%0A%3EGoogle search that gives immediate answers. Is that really so freakin%27 %0D%0A%3Ehard%3F %0D%0A%0D%0ASee above. However%2C I must point this out%3A What%2C if anything%2C does this have to do with the work in question%3F Nadda darn thing. The titles are similar%3B I%27ve never heard of this comic before%2C believe it or not%2C as you will.%0D%0A%0D%0A%3E%28Hell%2C never mind that a reference to the Helm of Nabu was made -- %0D%0A%3Eand %5Bi%5Dexplained%5B%2Fi%5D -- on %5Bi%5Dthese very Forums%5B%2Fi%5D not %5Bi%5Dtwo %0D%0A%3Efreakin%27 weeks ago%5B%2Fi%5D. C%27mon%2C people...%29 %0D%0A%0D%0AAhem. Having already said this once%2C I didn%27t think it%27d need to be restated%3A %5Bi%5DI am -not- a forum crawler%21%21%21%5B%2Fi%5D I read this%2C I read that%2C but I don%27t just sit there hour upon hour and sift through the forums. I don%27t have the patience to do so.%0D%0A%0D%0AI enjoy Eyrie%27s fics%3B I have since the first time I was introduced to them.%0D%0A%0D%0AEnter this post%3B I was trying to pass on something I thought someone -else- might enjoy reading. Y%27know%2C give back to the community%3F Then%2C someone %2Acough%2ASlarti%2Acough%2A comes along%2C making obscure %28to me%29 references to a comic I%27ve never heard of. Tell me%2C can ya feel the love%3F%0D%0A%0D%0AIncidentally%2C I -did- read the post in question%3B but the reference failed to catch my eye.%0D%0A%0D%0APlease%2C read the story%2C Slarti%3B it%27d make a lot of things a -lot- clearer. And I think you might accidentally find yourself enjoying it.%0D%0A%0D%0A%28Incidentally... what the heck does %27stroppy%27 mean%3F %27S been nagging at the back of my mind for a couple days now.%29 8|5|7|||1||RE%3A Hands of FATE|Wedge||20:19:02|10/30/2004|%0D%0ALighten up%2C Francis.%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Btable border%3D%220%22 cellspacing%3D%220%22 cellpadding%3D%220%22%5D%5Btr%5D%5Btd colspan%3D%222%22%5D%5Bhr size%3D%221%22 noshade%5D%5B%2Ftd%5D%5Btr%5D%5Btd%5Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fhomepage.mac.com%2Fwedge%2Fstuff%2Fnall.jpg%5B%2Ftd%5D%5Btd%5DChad Collier%0D%0AJ. Random Pixel Pusher%0D%0ADigital Domain%0D%0A%5Bfont color%3D%230000CC%5DThe Captain of the Gravy Train%5B%2Ffont%5D%5B%2Ftd%5D%5B%2Ftr%5D%5Btr%5D%5Btd colspan%3D%222%22%5D%5Bhr size%3D%221%22 noshade%5D%5B%2Ftd%5D%5Btr%5D%5B%2Ftable%5D 9|6|8|||||RE%3A Hands of FATE|MysticW2002||20:55:21|10/30/2004|%3ELighten up%2C Francis. %0D%0A%0D%0A... good point. Sleep deprivation is my defense...%0D%0A%0D%0AStill wanna know what %27stroppy%27 means%2C though. Interesting word%3B must... add... to... vocabulary...%0D%0A%0D%0AAnyways%2C yeah. I%27m gonna crash now. Eyes%27re crossing and uncrossing of their own accord... never a good sign. 10|7|9|||1||RE%3A Hands of FATE|Wedge||21:13:57|10/30/2004|%3EStill wanna know what %27stroppy%27 means%2C though. Interesting word%3B %0D%0A%3Emust... add... to... vocabulary... %0D%0A%0D%0AMight I suggest http%3A%2F%2Fwww.yahoo.com or%2C if you%27re simply adverse to using search engines in general%2C http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dictionary.com or http%3A%2F%2Fwww.m-w.com%0D%0A%0D%0AAll three provided instant results for me%2C and your fingers are obviously not broken%2C so.%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Btable border%3D%220%22 cellspacing%3D%220%22 cellpadding%3D%220%22%5D%5Btr%5D%5Btd colspan%3D%222%22%5D%5Bhr size%3D%221%22 noshade%5D%5B%2Ftd%5D%5Btr%5D%5Btd%5Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fhomepage.mac.com%2Fwedge%2Fstuff%2Fnall.jpg%5B%2Ftd%5D%5Btd%5DChad Collier%0D%0AJ. Random Pixel Pusher%0D%0ADigital Domain%0D%0A%5Bfont color%3D%230000CC%5DThe Captain of the Gravy Train%5B%2Ffont%5D%5B%2Ftd%5D%5B%2Ftr%5D%5Btr%5D%5Btd colspan%3D%222%22%5D%5Bhr size%3D%221%22 noshade%5D%5B%2Ftd%5D%5Btr%5D%5B%2Ftable%5D 11|8|10|||||RE%3A Hands of FATE|MysticW2002||07:34:42|10/31/2004|Thank ye%2C kind sir.%0D%0A%0D%0AIn general... search engines tend to dislike me. Or I them. Or... something to that effect. Yeah.%0D%0A%0D%0AAnyways%2C thanks for the reference materials. 14|9|11|||||RE%3A Hands of FATE|Sinapus||15:23:46|11/01/2004|%3EThank ye%2C kind sir. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3EIn general... search engines tend to dislike me. Or I them. Or... %0D%0A%3Esomething to that effect. Yeah. %0D%0A%0D%0AWhy%3F They do exactly what you tell them to do.%0D%0A 15|10|14|||||RE%3A Hands of FATE|MysticW2002||19:39:57|11/01/2004|Bad experiences with popups and such%2C for the most part. And%2C most of the time%2C I seem to wind up with the irrelevant information at the top.%0D%0A%0D%0AI -do- use -a- search engine%3B %5Blink%3Awww.mamma.com%7CMamma.com%5D. It%27s decent%2C but it%27s also slow.%0D%0A%0D%0AThere%27s a reason I tend to re-read things. My short term memory -sucks-. Long term%27s damn good%2C but short term sucks. Dunno if it%27s a medical condition%2C or what%2C but it%27s there. And my eyesight%27s not the best in the world%2C either%2C so I miss stuff when I breeze through. It%27s a shortcoming I had to live through highschool with.%0D%0A%0D%0AMy short term memory problem is also why my writing is a bit disjointed%2C in places. %3Csarcastic remark%3EAin%27t the human mind a wonderful thing%3F%3C%2Fsarcastic remark%3E 12|1|0|||1||RE%3A Hands of FATE|NeoRavenK7||10:45:48|11/01/2004|%3EHave neither of you heard of %5Blink%3Awww.google.com%7CGoogle%5D%3F%21 First page %0D%0A%3Eof hits from Googling either %5Blink%3Awww.torgo.org%2Ftorgo%2F%7C%22Torgo%22%5D or %0D%0A%3E%5Blink%3Amy.execpc.com%2F%7Eicicle%2FDRFATE.html%7C%22Helm of Nabu%22%5D would%27ve told %0D%0A%3Eyou what I was talking about. This isn%27t %22get some help from the %0D%0A%3Elibrarian%22 level research here%2C people. It%27s a quick Google search %0D%0A%3Ethat gives immediate answers. Is that really so freakin%27 hard%3F%0D%0A%0D%0AEasy%2C there%2C man. With all do respect%2C take a chill pill. All you had to do was say%2C %22Google it%2C dammit%2C%22 and the point would%27ve been made.%0D%0A%0D%0AAlso%2C As my friend pointed out%2C none of the reference material has anything to do with the Story in question. I%27m rather reminded of how some people try to compare NGE to NXE%2C which really can%27t be done to a very extensive level given that they diverge so far apart from each other.%0D%0A%0D%0A%2ABlinks and looks at what he just wrote.%2A Sheesh%2C no wonder why some kids thought I talked weird back in middle school.%0D%0A%0D%0A-NeoRaven%0D%0AHobbes%3A %22I%27ve never seen raisin bran do that before.%22%0D%0ACalvin%3A %22I put in an alcaseltzer.%22