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0|0|0|||1||Oh%2C which reminds me%2C|Gryphon||17:24:03|08/02/2006|I picked up %5Bi%5DDC Comics Presents Minimalist Teasers for Six Upcoming Titles Disguised as an 80-Page Giant%5B%2Fi%5D - er%2C I mean%2C %5Bi%5DDC%3A Brave New World%5B%2Fi%5D - a bit ago%2C and I%27d like to offer a gigantic gold-tipped %5Bi%5Dfuck you in the ear%5B%2Fi%5D to the genius who decided that killing off Mary Marvel was a good plan.%0D%0A%0D%0AThe way it%27s presented%2C either they just played it like that to shock people into buying the first issue of the new series%2C which is fucking cheap%2C or they actually killed her off in a stupid and ignoble manner.%0D%0A%0D%0AEither way%2C %5Bi%5Dfuck that.%5B%2Fi%5D%0D%0A%0D%0A--G.%0D%0A-%3E%3C-%0D%0ABenjamin D. Hutchins%2C Co-Founder%2C Editor-in-Chief%2C %26 Forum Admin%0D%0AEyrie Productions%2C Unlimited  http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eyrie-productions.com%2F%0D%0A
1|1|0|||||RE%3A Oh%2C which reminds me%2C|mdg1||18:06:43|08/02/2006|[updated:LAST EDITED ON Aug-02-06 AT 06:07 PM (EDT)]I was going to reply with %22don%27t worry%2C I%27m sure it%27ll be OK%22%2C but I just read an interview with Judd Winick....%0D%0A%0D%0AThe Marvel family is fucked.
2|2|1|||1||RE%3A Oh%2C which reminds me%2C|Ardaniel||20:18:04|08/02/2006|Well%2C remember what he did to the Green Arrow clan.%0D%0A%0D%0AArd Sumhenner%0D%0Athat Janice chick%0D%0AUsual Suspect and general menace
3|2|1|||1||RE%3A Oh%2C which reminds me%2C|Gryphon||20:37:37|08/02/2006|[updated:LAST EDITED ON Aug-02-06 AT 08:37 PM (EDT)]%3EI was going to reply with %22don%27t worry%2C I%27m sure it%27ll be OK%22%2C but I %0D%0A%3Ejust read an interview with Judd Winick.... %0D%0A%0D%0A... which you didn%27t link%2C but Ardie found me %5Blink%3Awww.whedon.info%2Farticle.php3%3Fid_article%3D15722%7Cthis one%5D.%0D%0A%0D%0AJudd was already On Notice for what he did to %5Bi%5DGreen Arrow%5B%2Fi%5D.  I think we can now safely consider him Dead To Me%2C along with the Idiot God DiDio%27Sothoth%2C his messenger Johnsathotep %28the Crawling Chaos with a Thousand Shitty Plots%29%2C and the rest of DC%27s thousand blind%2C amorphous flautists who endlessly caper and dance to keep the monster penned at the center of the universe.%0D%0A%0D%0A--G.%0D%0A-%3E%3C-%0D%0ABenjamin D. Hutchins%2C Co-Founder%2C Editor-in-Chief%2C %26 Forum Admin%0D%0AEyrie Productions%2C Unlimited  http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eyrie-productions.com%2F%0D%0A
4|3|3|||||RE%3A Oh%2C which reminds me%2C|mdg1||20:57:47|08/02/2006|%0D%0A%3E... which you didn%27t link%2C but Ardie found me this one.%0D%0A%0D%0ASorry about that. As it happens%2C that was the same interview%2C although I saw it on it%27s original site.   %0D%0A%0D%0AI can%27t believe this is the same man who created Barry Ween%2C Boy Genius.%0D%0A%0D%0A
5|4|4|||1||RE%3A Oh%2C which reminds me%2C|Ardaniel||21:06:15|08/02/2006|[updated:LAST EDITED ON Aug-02-06 AT 09:07 PM (EDT)]%3ESorry about that. As it happens%2C that was the same interview%2C although %0D%0A%3EI saw it on its original site. %0D%0A%0D%0AYeah%2C I%27m reading the Newsarama version now.  Particularly liked this bit by commenter MacQuarrie%3A%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bi%5DRelevant%3F Why on earth would anyone want to do that%3F%0D%0A%0D%0ACaptain Marvel was NEVER relevant and never should be. He was fun%2C charming%2C whimsical%2C entertaining%2C the essence of good comics.%0D%0A%0D%0AJudd Winick should not be allowed within a hundred miles of Shazam. He doesn%27t get it. DC is completely missing the golden opportunity.%5B%2Fi%5D%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0AWhich leads me to the synthesis of the Captain Marvel bit with the Iron Man stuff from the other thread%3A%0D%0A%0D%0AWhat do comics publishers have against the period piece%2C which is a staple of movies%2C novels%2C and lots of other serialized%2F sequential forms of entertainment%3F Why do they hate America%3F %3B%29%0D%0A%0D%0AArd Sumhenner%0D%0Athat Janice chick%0D%0AUsual Suspect and general menace
6|5|5|||1||RE%3A Oh%2C which reminds me%2C|BlackAeronaut||01:05:41|08/03/2006|%3EWhat do comics publishers have against the period piece%2C which is a %0D%0A%3Estaple of movies%2C novels%2C and lots of other serialized%2F sequential %0D%0A%3Eforms of entertainment%3F Why do they hate America%3F %3B%29 %0D%0A%0D%0AThat%27s Corporate America for you.  All they see is the freakin%27 dollar signs and they figure that stupid people are the majority of young Americans.  Just like these big oil companies.  They figure that America will eternally keep on paying higher and higher prices at the pump despite the fact that Alternative Fuels are almost readily available.%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Btable%5D%5Btr%5D%5Btd%5D%5Bhr%5D%5Bfont size%3D%222%22 face%3D%22Arial Narrow%22%5D%5Bb%5DBlack Aeronaut Technologies%5B%2Fb%5D%0D%0ACreative aerospace solutions for the discerning spacer%0D%0A%5Bi%5D%22What%3F  Under the dorsal guiding feathers%21%3F%22%5B%2Fi%5D%5B%2Ffont%5D%5B%2Ftd%5D%5B%2Ftr%5D%5B%2Ftable%5D
7|6|6|||1||RE%3A Oh%2C which reminds me%2C|Gryphon||01:30:26|08/03/2006|%3EThat%27s Corporate America for you.  All they see is the freakin%27 dollar %0D%0A%3Esigns and they figure that stupid people are the majority of young %0D%0A%3EAmericans.%0D%0A%0D%0AAdmittedly%2C they are correct.%0D%0A%0D%0A%3EJust like these big oil companies.  They figure that %0D%0A%3EAmerica will eternally keep on paying higher and higher prices at the %0D%0A%3Epump despite the fact that Alternative Fuels are almost readily %0D%0A%3Eavailable. %0D%0A%0D%0AAdmittedly%2C they are correct.%0D%0A%0D%0A--G.%0D%0A-%3E%3C-%0D%0ABenjamin D. Hutchins%2C Co-Founder%2C Editor-in-Chief%2C %26 Forum Admin%0D%0AEyrie Productions%2C Unlimited  http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eyrie-productions.com%2F%0D%0A
13|7|7|||1||RE%3A Oh%2C which reminds me%2C|Ardaniel||16:00:39|08/03/2006|I%27m forced to point out here that I%27m not entirely correct. The comic companies %2Awill%2A take a chance on period pieces...%0D%0A%0D%0Aif Garth Ennis writes them%2C and they%27re set in the African desert in WWII.%0D%0A%0D%0AThere are a lot of those at my house.  Garth Ennis really likes him some WWII action.  I%27d like to see %2Aanyone%2A else write %2Asomething%2A else that%27s a period piece.  %3B%29%0D%0A%0D%0AArd Sumhenner%0D%0Athat Janice chick%0D%0AUsual Suspect and general menace
8|4|4|||1||RE%3A Oh%2C which reminds me%2C|StaticdashPulse||01:47:18|08/03/2006|[updated:LAST EDITED ON Dec-21-11 AT 03:08 PM (EST)]%3EI can%27t believe this is the same man who created Barry Ween%2C Boy %0D%0A%3EGenius. %0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bb%5DI KNOW%21%5B%2Fb%5D%0D%0A%0D%0AIt makes my head hurt when I try to rectify that%2C so lately I%27ve been doing my best not to think about it...  And watching copious amounts of %5Bi%5DW.I.T.C.H.%5B%2Fi%5D to make myself forget Juniper Lee.
9|1|0|||1||RE%3A Oh%2C which reminds me%2C|StaticdashPulse||01:51:09|08/03/2006|[updated:LAST EDITED ON Dec-21-11 AT 03:09 PM (EST)]Was this the one that hadher falling from the sky shouting %22Shazam%21  Shazam%21%22 as she went%3F  I was under the impression that was a cliffhanger.  Did they actually%2C really kill her off%3F
10|2|9|||1||RE%3A Oh%2C which reminds me%2C|Matrix Dragon||05:24:46|08/03/2006|%3EWas this the one that hadher falling from the sky shouting %22Shazam%21  %0D%0A%3EShazam%21%22 as she went%3F  I was under the impression that was a %0D%0A%3Ecliffhanger.  Did they actually%2C really kill her off%3F %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%0D%0AProbably not%2C and it was just a lame %27SHOCK TWIST%2FCLIFFHANGER%21%27 that%27s so damn popular in comics.%0D%0A%0D%0AOf course%2C we won%27t get confirmation of this until issue... three%2C I%27d say. After all%2C first you have to have some extra blood and gore%2C along with a flashback sequence that details the origins of the heroes %28As retconed to be dark%2C gritty and dramatic by the current writer%29%2C along with yet another retelling of the latest world-breaking crossover that changed the heroes forever... Then she%27ll make a dramatic reveal at the end of issue 3. Unless the shock value failed to pull in fans of my favorite Marvel%2C and then she%27ll be dead. Possibly a zombie. With blood%2C gore and demons.%0D%0A%0D%0AMatrix Dragon%2C J. Random Nutter
11|2|9|||1||RE%3A Oh%2C which reminds me%2C|Gryphon||12:10:58|08/03/2006|%3EWas this the one that hadher falling from the sky shouting %22Shazam%21  %0D%0A%3EShazam%21%22 as she went%3F  I was under the impression that was a %0D%0A%3Ecliffhanger.  Did they actually%2C really kill her off%3F %0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bi%5DJe r%E9p%E8te%3A%5B%2Fi%5D%0D%0A%0D%0A%22The way it%27s presented%2C either they just played it like that to shock people into buying the first issue of the new series%2C which is fucking cheap%2C or they actually killed her off in a stupid and ignoble manner.%0D%0A%0D%0AEither way%2C %5Bi%5Dfuck that.%5B%2Fi%5D%22%0D%0A%0D%0A--G.%0D%0A-%3E%3C-%0D%0ABenjamin D. Hutchins%2C Co-Founder%2C Editor-in-Chief%2C %26 Forum Admin%0D%0AEyrie Productions%2C Unlimited  http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eyrie-productions.com%2F%0D%0A
12|3|11|||1||RE%3A Oh%2C which reminds me%2C|StaticdashPulse||13:56:40|08/03/2006|[updated:LAST EDITED ON Dec-21-11 AT 03:08 PM (EST)]Mea culpa.%0D%0A%0D%0AI%27d seen scans from that issue%2C but wasn%27t sure which comic or issue number it was from.  Reading that post and remembering the scans%2C I thought they actually shown her going splat.  But%2C yeah%2C either way%2C to quote%2C %22%5Bi%5Dfuck that.%5B%2Fi%5D%22%0D%0A%0D%0AI%27m not a big fan of Mary Marvel%2C but from the times I%27ve seen her%2C she%27s a better character being played as the straight man...  Not as Buster to Judd Winnick%27s Mythbusters.
14|4|12|||||RE%3A Oh%2C which reminds me%2C|Moonsword||10:39:31|08/07/2006|From what I know of current comics management policy %28read%3A reading discussions here at EPU%29%2C that%27s probably correct but My God%2C man%2C must we give these madmen ideas%3F%0D%0A%0D%0A%2Ashudders at concept of DC%27s personal Dark Helmet getting the reins of Mythbusters%2A
17|5|14|||1||RE%3A Oh%2C which reminds me%2C|Mephron||16:56:25|08/07/2006|%3E%2Ashudders at concept of DC%27s personal Dark Helmet getting the reins of %0D%0A%3EMythbusters%2A %0D%0A%0D%0AGod%2C I love that as a term.  The entire metaphor being he%27s not even competent enough to be properly EVIL.%0D%0A%0D%0A%28As opposed to Garth Ennis%2C who had some stuff in Preacher that made me think the man has relatives in Hell in management positions.%29%0D%0A%0D%0A--%0D%0AGeoff Depew - Darth Mephron%0D%0AHaberdasher to Androids%2C Dark Lord of Sith Tech Support.%0D%0A%22And Remember%21  Google is your Friend%21%21%22
18|5|14|||1||RE%3A Oh%2C which reminds me%2C|StaticdashPulse||17:07:27|08/07/2006|[updated:LAST EDITED ON Dec-21-11 AT 03:08 PM (EST)]%3E%2Ashudders at concept of DC%27s personal Dark Helmet getting the reins of %0D%0A%3EMythbusters%2A %0D%0A%0D%0AI wouldn%27t want DC to %5Bi%5Dtouch%5B%2Fi%5D Mythbusters%2C but looking at scans from %5Bi%5DKingdom%5B%2Fi%5D %28or %5Bi%5DKingdom Come%5B%2Fi%5D%29 the other day%2C it was eerie just how much an aged Ted Kord looked like Adam Savage.
15|1|0|||||RE%3A Oh%2C which reminds me%2C|VA_Wanderer||14:27:04|08/07/2006|The second I saw Captain Marvel going loony tunes%2C I knew the Marvel family had officially jumped the shark.%0D%0A%0D%0AGo go DC tainting everything they can touch in the name of the %22New Age of Magic%22.%0D%0A
16|2|15|||1||RE%3A Oh%2C which reminds me%2C|Gryphon||15:34:27|08/07/2006|%3EGo go DC tainting everything they can touch in the name of what %0D%0A%3EDan DiDio thinks will sell.%0D%0A%0D%0AFixed that for you.%0D%0A%0D%0A--G.%0D%0A-%3E%3C-%0D%0ABenjamin D. Hutchins%2C Co-Founder%2C Editor-in-Chief%2C %26 Forum Admin%0D%0AEyrie Productions%2C Unlimited  http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eyrie-productions.com%2F%0D%0A