26||0|867|0|yes 0|0|0|||||Hrmph|Jeffrey||13:03:30|02/23/2002|It really makes your day when you%27re only 20 years old and are already considered part of the %22out%22 crowd because someone half your age says that you%27re %22like...so 90%27s.%22%0D%0A%0D%0ANot that I really mind because I never saw anything special about the %22in%22 crowd%2C but still...%0D%0A%0D%0A----------%0D%0AJeffrey McIntyre%0D%0A%22Nope%2C not rabid crack weasels. Rabid %5Bb%5DDRUNK%5B%2Fb%5D weasels%21%22 1|1|0|||||RE%3A Hrmph|Astynax||13:18:52|02/23/2002|%3EIt really makes your day when you%27re only 20 years old and are already %0D%0A%3Econsidered part of the %22out%22 crowd because someone half your age says %0D%0A%3Ethat you%27re %22like...so 90%27s.%22 %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3ENot that I really mind because I never saw anything special about the %0D%0A%3E%22in%22 crowd%2C but still... %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%0D%0AJust wait until the first time you encounter some artifact from your childhood in an antique shop. No matter what age you are%2C -that- experience will make you feel about 120 for at least a few minutes.%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Btable border%3D%220%22 cellspacing%3D%220%22 cellpadding%3D%220%22%5D%5Btr%5D%5Btd colspan%3D%222%22%5D%5Bhr size%3D%222%22 noshade%5D%5B%2Ftd%5D%5B%2Ftr%5D%5Btr%5D%5Btd%5Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fmembers.aol.com%2Ferulogos%2Fgfx%2Fxsig.jpg%5B%2Ftd%5D%5Btd%5D%5BFONT SIZE%3D%222%22 COLOR%3D%22%23000000%22%5D%5Bb%5D-%3D%7B%28Astynax%29%7D%3D-%5B%2Fb%5D%0D%0A%5Bi%5D%22Wow%2C Voltron toys%21 I had a set of those...%0D%0A%3A%3Acreeeeckpop%3A%3A%3Cold_man_voice%3E ow%2C my back. Say there%2C sonny...%22%5B%2Fi%5D%5B%2Ffont%5D%5B%2Ftd%5D%5B%2Ftr%5D%5Btr%5D%5Btd colspan%3D%222%22%5D%5Bhr size%3D%222%22 noshade%5D%5B%2Ftd%5D%5B%2Ftr%5D%5B%2Ftable%5D%5B%2Fp%5D 3|2|1|||||RE%3A Hrmph|Mephron||14:57:58|02/23/2002|%3EJust wait until the first time you encounter some artifact from your %0D%0A%3Echildhood in an antique shop. No matter what age you are%2C -that- %0D%0A%3Eexperience will make you feel about 120 for at least a few minutes. %0D%0A%0D%0ALike remembering out loud seeing STar Wars in a movie theatre while waiting for %27Return of the Jedi%27%2C noting that it was a 2-plex at the time instead of the tenplex it had now become%2C and having a small child look at you and say%3A%0D%0A%0D%0A%22Wow%2C mister. You%27re OLD.%22%0D%0A%0D%0A--%0D%0AGeoff Depew - Mephron%0D%0AHaberdasher to Androids%2C Malakite of Lightning and Angel of Tech Support Professionals %0D%0AEPU RCW %231 5|3|3|||||RE%3A Hrmph|Gryphon||16:54:27|02/23/2002|%3E%3EJust wait until the first time you encounter some artifact from your %0D%0A%3E%3Echildhood in an antique shop. No matter what age you are%2C -that- %0D%0A%3E%3Eexperience will make you feel about 120 for at least a few minutes. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3ELike remembering out loud seeing STar Wars in a movie theatre while %0D%0A%3Ewaiting for %27Return of the Jedi%27%2C noting that it was a 2-plex at the %0D%0A%3Etime instead of the tenplex it had now become%2C and having a small %0D%0A%3Echild look at you and say%3A %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3E%22Wow%2C mister. You%27re OLD.%22 %0D%0A%0D%0AA man sat in a room in Massachusetts watching Sarah Hughes skate in the Salt Lake 2002 Olympic figure-skating medalists%27 exhibition.%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bi%5DDamn%2C%5B%2Fi%5D he thought after a moment%27s calculation. %5Bi%5DWhen that girl was born%2C I was in the %5B%2Fi%5Dseventh goddamn grade%5Bi%5D%21 Kill me %5Bb%5Dnow.%5B%2Fb%5D%0D%0A%0D%0A--G.%0D%0A-%3E%3C-%0D%0ABenjamin D. Hutchins%2C Co-Founder%2C Editor in Chief%2C Netadmin%0D%0AEyrie Productions%2C Unlimited http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eyrie-productions.com%2F%0D%0A 9|4|5|||||RE%3A Hrmph|BobSchroeck||18:46:43|02/23/2002|[font size="1" color="#FF0000"]LAST EDITED ON Feb-23-02 AT 06:48 PM (EST)[/font][p]%3E%5Bi%5DDamn%2C%5B%2Fi%5D he thought after a moment%27s calculation. %5Bi%5DWhen that %0D%0A%3Egirl was born%2C I was in the %5B%2Fi%5Dseventh goddamn grade%5Bi%5D%21 Kill me %0D%0A%3E%5Bb%5Dnow.%5B%2Fb%5D %5B%2Fi%5D%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bi%5DDamn%2C%5B%2Fi%5D thought another man. %5Bi%5DWhen that girl was born%2C I was a couple of months from my first college reunion. Kill me %5Bb%5Dyesterday.%5B%2Fb%5D%5B%2Fi%5D %0D%0A%0D%0A-- Bob%2C who has been quietly freaking ever since he passed the mean age for the American population...%0D%0A%0D%0A%28Edited to correct coding error.%29%0D%0A%0D%0A%28Proud member of the Legion of Rabid Crack Weasels%29%0D%0A---------------%0D%0AYears ago%2C when trying to invoke the mysterious forces of the universe%2C you said%2C %22Abracadabra.%22 Today you say%2C %22Hello%2C tech support%3F%22 -- Cecil Adams 2|1|0|||||RE%3A Hrmph|Offsides||13:30:34|02/23/2002|%3EIt really makes your day when you%27re only 20 years old and are already %0D%0A%3Econsidered part of the %22out%22 crowd because someone half your age says %0D%0A%3Ethat you%27re %22like...so 90%27s.%22 %0D%0A%3E%0D%0ABack when I was 19%2C I went into a bakery that I had gotten giant cookies when I was younger %2810-12ish%29 for only 25 cents. They were now %241 apiece%2C and I commented on the price jump to the woman behind the counter - who couldn%27t have been more than 21-22. Her response%3A %22Shh... You%27re dating yourself%21%22 %3A%29%0D%0A%0D%0AHow%27s that for feeling old... %3A%29%0D%0A%0D%0AOffsides%0D%0A%0D%0AUnemployed netadmin seeking job... so what else is new%3F%0D%0AEPU RCW %23%26pi%3B%0D%0A%23include %3Cage.h%3E 14|2|2|||||RE%3A Hrmph|juniper||10:49:42|02/24/2002|%3EBack when I was 19%2C I went into a bakery that I had gotten giant %0D%0A%3Ecookies when I was younger %2810-12ish%29 for only 25 cents. They were %0D%0A%3Enow %241 apiece%2C and I commented on the price jump to the woman behind %0D%0A%3Ethe counter - who couldn%27t have been more than 21-22. Her response%3A %0D%0A%3E%22Shh... You%27re dating yourself%21%22 %3A%29 %0D%0A%0D%0AI walked into my old high school this week and asked if Mr. %3Cname%3E was around. I was informed he hadn%27t worked there for six years. That blew my mind just a bit%2C considering that I%27d only graduated 7 years earlier... %0D%0A%5Btable%5D%5Btr%5D%5Btd colspan%3D%222%22%5D%5Bhr size%3D2 noshade%5D%5B%2Ftd%5D%5B%2Ftr%5D%5Btr%5D%5Btd width%3D%2265%22%5Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.dragonmage.net%2Fimages%2Fifurita_line_drawing-small.gif%5B%2Ftd%5D%5Btd%5D%5Bfont color%3D%22%230000dd%22%5DJuniper%5B%2Ffont%5D%0D%0A%5Bfont color%3D%22%23000088%22 size%3D-1%5DRampaging Karateka Crypto-Kwavu%27b Contributing Editor%5B%2Ffont%5D%0D%0A%5Bfont color%3D%22%23000088%22 size%3D-1%5DEyrie Productions%2C Unlimited%5B%2Ffont%5D%0D%0A%5Bfont color%3D%22%230044aa%22 size%3D-1%5D%5Bi%5DBecause why be %5Bb%5Dordinary%5B%2Fb%5D in your choice of hobbies%3F%5B%2Fi%5D%5B%2Ffont%5D%5B%2Ftd%5D%5B%2Ftr%5D%5Btr%5D%5Btd colspan%3D%222%22%5D%5Bhr size%3D1 noshade%5D%5B%2Ftd%5D%5B%2Ftr%5D%0D%0A%5B%2Ftable%5D%0D%0A 4|1|0|||||RE%3A Hrmph|Gryphon||15:08:40|02/23/2002|%3EIt really makes your day when you%27re only 20 years old and are already %0D%0A%3Econsidered part of the %22out%22 crowd because someone half your age says %0D%0A%3Ethat you%27re %22like...so 90%27s.%22 %0D%0A%0D%0A... and the opinion of a ten-year-old as to what is or is not %27in%27 cuts ice with you why%2C exactly%3F%0D%0A%0D%0A--G.%0D%0A-%3E%3C-%0D%0ABenjamin D. Hutchins%2C Co-Founder%2C Editor in Chief%2C Netadmin%0D%0AEyrie Productions%2C Unlimited http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eyrie-productions.com%2F%0D%0A 10|2|4|||||RE%3A Hrmph|Jeffrey||18:52:16|02/23/2002|%3E... and the opinion of a ten-year-old as to what is or is not %27in%27 %0D%0A%3Ecuts ice with you why%2C exactly%3F %0D%0A%0D%0AOh%2C I couldn%27t care less about the %22in%22 crowd or even if he actually knew what in the world he was talking about. But two things about his statement bothered me.%0D%0A%0D%0AOne%3A In a roundabout manner%2C I was called %22old%22 by a ten-year-old. Even though I%27m only TWENTY. What%27s next%2C a five-year-old regarding me like I%27m some sort of prehistoric dinosaur who should have DIED a few years ago %28like a 97-year-old man still clinging to life even after his own son and grandson%27s already gone%29%3F%0D%0A%0D%0ATwo%3A The topic under discussion didn%27t exist until 1998. Seriously%2C %5Bi%5D1998%5B%2Fi%5D. If it was something from the early 90%27s%2C like the grunge look%2C I wouldn%27t be so flabbergasted%2C but this was LESS THAN FOUR YEARS AGO%21 So far we%27re into this new decade %28millenium%29 for less than three years%2C and nothing new has actually come up %28though a few older fads are slowly dying out%29. If anyone has anything against the mid- to late 90%27s%2C at least wait until it%27s 2005 or so%2C when we have at least some change in the current trends%2C to complain%2C all right%3F%0D%0A%0D%0A----------%0D%0AJeffrey McIntyre%0D%0A%22Nope%2C not rabid crack weasels. Rabid %5Bb%5DDRUNK%5B%2Fb%5D weasels%21%22 11|3|10|||||RE%3A Hrmph|Laudre||00:34:51|02/24/2002|[font size="1" color="#FF0000"]LAST EDITED ON Feb-24-02 AT 00:35 AM (EST)[/font][p]%3EOne%3A In a roundabout manner%2C I was called %22old%22 by a ten-year-old. %0D%0A%3EEven though I%27m only TWENTY.%0D%0A%0D%0AThe other night%2C I was having dinner at my sister%27s house%2C which included all three of us in this generation%2C my father%2C and my sister%27s kids. We were discussing age%2C since my father is turning 60 on Thursday%2C and he%27s started changing his eating habits to the better%2C cutting back on coffee and cigarettes and eating better foods. One of my sisters asked him if he feels old%2C and he said %22sometimes%2C%22 to which one of my sisters %28they%27re 31 -- yes%2C twins%29 said %22I feel old sometimes.%22 So she then turned to my seven-year-old nephew and asked if sixty was old.%0D%0A%0D%0A%22Yes%2C%22%0D%0A%0D%0A%22Is twenty-six old%3F%22 I ask him. %28My age%2C for those who aren%27t aware.%29%0D%0A%0D%0A%22No.%22%0D%0A%0D%0A%22What about thirty%3F%22%0D%0A%0D%0A%22Yes.%22%0D%0A%0D%0AMy sisters took exception to that%3B I just laughed and reminded that one day%2C %5Bi%5Dhe%5B%2Fi%5D would be thirty%2C and%2C sometime after that%2C he%27d be an age where thirty seems young %3A%29.%0D%0A%0D%0A-- Sean --%0D%0Aedit%3A minor typo fix%0D%0A%5Bb%5DRabid Crack Weasel %2342%5B%2Fb%5D%0D%0A%5Blink%3Awww.thebrokenlink.org%7Chttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.thebrokenlink.org%5D %5Bb%5DThe Broken Link 4.0 is live%21%5B%2Fb%5D%0D%0A%22All tribal myths are true%2C for a given value of %27true%27.%22 -- Terry Pratchett%0D%0A%5Blink%3Awww.livejournal.com%2Fusers%2Flaudre%2F%7CFollow my random thoughts%5D%0D%0A%5Blink%3Awww.livejournal.com%2Fusers%2Feva_densetsu%2F%7CFollow my creative process%5D 6|1|0|||||RE%3A Hrmph|Rachie||17:20:23|02/23/2002|%3EIt really makes your day when you%27re only 20 years old and are already %0D%0A%3Econsidered part of the %22out%22 crowd because someone half your age says %0D%0A%3Ethat you%27re %22like...so 90%27s.%22 %0D%0A%0D%0AJeez%2C I%27m 2 years younger than you and I got just about the same line a couple days ago from a 14-year-old when I wore a flannel shirt. Now%2C I don%27t give a damn about the %22in%22 crowd either%2C but I just have to wonder%2C do flannel shirts exemplify the %2790s%3F I don%27t know%2C I never bothered to keep up with style%2C just wore what was comfortable and looked good - but seriously%2C what is so %2790s about flannel shirts%3F %0D%0A%0D%0AOh%2C and I did see some old toys of mine in an antique store. Seriously. They had %22My Little Ponies%22 in there selling for around 20-30 bucks each. Damn%2C I wish I%27d kept more of those stupid things%2C even though they really shouldn%27t be %22antiques.%22 I consider things to be %22antique%22 when they%27re at least 50 years old. Before that%2C they%27re just kitsch. %0D%0A%0D%0A- R. Mayo%0D%0A%0D%0AMy Little Ponies in antique stores%3F What%27s next%2C Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles%3F Christ. 7|2|6|||||RE%3A Hrmph|Gryphon||17:48:16|02/23/2002|%3Enever bothered to keep up with style%2C just wore what was comfortable %0D%0A%3Eand looked good - but seriously%2C what is so %2790s about flannel shirts%3F %0D%0A%0D%0AThe Seattle grunge movement%2C circa 1991. Suddenly%2C dressing like an unemployed lumberjack was fashionable - jeans or army pants%2C flannel shirts%2C combat boots.%0D%0A%0D%0AI%27d just arrived at college%2C and was baffled at the time%2C having dressed like that for years. I%27d never seen anyone who wasn%27t from Maine wearing a Frostproof before%2C and here %5Bi%5Deverybody%5B%2Fi%5D was. Suddenly I was being mistaken for part of this homogenized mass of mindless grunge fans. When I got done being baffled I was a bit annoyed. I make a point of bathing significantly more than once a week. I don%27t do drugs or set booze-consumption records. I don%27t even %5Bi%5Dlike%5B%2Fi%5D Pearl Jam. It was a similar sort of irritation to the kind I always feel when I%27m trying to get something at a mall in December and find my progress impeded by these hordes of Christmas shoppers when I would be there anyway. %3A%29%0D%0A%0D%0A%3Eeven though they really shouldn%27t be %22antiques.%22 I consider things to %0D%0A%3Ebe %22antique%22 when they%27re at least 50 years old. Before that%2C they%27re %0D%0A%3Ejust kitsch. %0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bi%5DThe Onion%5B%2Fi%5D did %5Blink%3Awww.theonion.com%2Fonion3214%2Fusretro.html%7Can article%5D about the narrowing of the gap between the present day and the current retro-nostalgia period a while ago. Like many %5Bi%5DOnion%5B%2Fi%5D articles%2C it%27s so true as to be funny and sad at the same time.%0D%0A%0D%0AThe depressing fact is%2C antique and kitsch are now the same thing.%0D%0A%0D%0A--G.%0D%0A-%3E%3C-%0D%0ABenjamin D. Hutchins%2C Co-Founder%2C Editor in Chief%2C Netadmin%0D%0AEyrie Productions%2C Unlimited http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eyrie-productions.com%2F%0D%0A 8|3|7|||||RE%3A Hrmph|Laudre||18:12:37|02/23/2002|%3EThe Seattle grunge movement%2C circa 1991. Suddenly%2C dressing like an %0D%0A%3Eunemployed lumberjack was fashionable - jeans or army pants%2C flannel %0D%0A%3Eshirts%2C combat boots. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3EI%27d just arrived at college%2C and was baffled at the time%2C having %0D%0A%3Edressed like that for years.%0D%0A%0D%0AThe ironic thing is that the motivation for the bands to wear things like that was for the same reason someone from Northern Maine does -- practicality. Seattle ain%27t exactly balmy. They got the clothes out of places like Salvation Army %27cause%2C hell%2C they%27re %5Bi%5Dmusicians%5B%2Fi%5D%2C and the only expensive things they buy are their instruments. %28And I always saw more T-shirts than flannel onstage anyway.%29 The wannabees wore that stuff%2C even in 90-degree weather%2C because they wanted to look cool%2C and paid out the A55 for it. %28I remember one rather bland jacket Eddie Vedder happened to wear in a video -- one of the three Pearl Jam did%2C before they gave up altogether on MTV -- that he picked up in a Salvation Army for like %245... well%2C some designer made a suede clone of it that they sold for something like %241500.%29%0D%0A%0D%0A%28I%2C being in early high school%2C was on an all-black kick at the time%2C which lasted through my freshman year of college. Not goth -- I was never pretentious enough -- but more %22it looks cool and I won%27t have to think about matching anything%22. I never went for the %22grunge%22 look%2C for all that I love the music%2C and the only flannel I%27ve ever owned is my bedsheets.%29%0D%0A%0D%0A-- Sean --%0D%0A%5Bb%5DRabid Crack Weasel %2342%5B%2Fb%5D%0D%0A%5Blink%3Awww.thebrokenlink.org%7Chttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.thebrokenlink.org%5D %5Bb%5DThe Broken Link 4.0 is live%21%5B%2Fb%5D%0D%0A%22All tribal myths are true%2C for a given value of %27true%27.%22 -- Terry Pratchett%0D%0A%5Blink%3Awww.livejournal.com%2Fusers%2Flaudre%2F%7CFollow my random thoughts%5D%0D%0A%5Blink%3Awww.livejournal.com%2Fusers%2Feva_densetsu%2F%7CFollow my creative process%5D 13|3|7|||||RE%3A Hrmph|juniper||10:47:38|02/24/2002|%3EThe depressing fact is%2C antique and kitsch are now the same thing. %0D%0A%0D%0AMy father%27s fabulous art deco furniture begs to differ.%0D%0A%0D%0AExcuse me%2C it%27s informing me that it%27s art deco -French- which makes it superior to anything this country might have produced. I%27m not sure I agree with it...but it is -lovely- furniture. %3B%29%0D%0A%5Btable%5D%5Btr%5D%5Btd colspan%3D%222%22%5D%5Bhr size%3D2 noshade%5D%5B%2Ftd%5D%5B%2Ftr%5D%5Btr%5D%5Btd width%3D%2265%22%5Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.dragonmage.net%2Fimages%2Fifurita_line_drawing-small.gif%5B%2Ftd%5D%5Btd%5D%5Bfont color%3D%22%230000dd%22%5DJuniper%5B%2Ffont%5D%0D%0A%5Bfont color%3D%22%23000088%22 size%3D-1%5DRampaging Karateka Crypto-Kwavu%27b Contributing Editor%5B%2Ffont%5D%0D%0A%5Bfont color%3D%22%23000088%22 size%3D-1%5DEyrie Productions%2C Unlimited%5B%2Ffont%5D%0D%0A%5Bfont color%3D%22%230044aa%22 size%3D-1%5D%5Bi%5DBecause why be %5Bb%5Dordinary%5B%2Fb%5D in your choice of hobbies%3F%5B%2Fi%5D%5B%2Ffont%5D%5B%2Ftd%5D%5B%2Ftr%5D%5Btr%5D%5Btd colspan%3D%222%22%5D%5Bhr size%3D1 noshade%5D%5B%2Ftd%5D%5B%2Ftr%5D%0D%0A%5B%2Ftable%5D%0D%0A 15|4|13|||||RE%3A Hrmph|Gryphon||15:36:38|02/24/2002|%3E%3EThe depressing fact is%2C antique and kitsch are now the same thing. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3EMy father%27s fabulous art deco furniture begs to differ. %0D%0A%0D%0AWell%2C Art Deco and Machine Age stuff is exempt on account of being the best styles ever.%0D%0A%0D%0A--G.%0D%0A-%3E%3C-%0D%0ABenjamin D. Hutchins%2C Co-Founder%2C Editor in Chief%2C Netadmin%0D%0AEyrie Productions%2C Unlimited http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eyrie-productions.com%2F%0D%0A 17|5|15|||||RE%3A Hrmph|Phantom||06:36:38|02/25/2002|%3E%3E%3EThe depressing fact is%2C antique and kitsch are now the same thing. %0D%0A%3E%3E%0D%0A%3E%3EMy father%27s fabulous art deco furniture begs to differ. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3EWell%2C Art Deco and Machine Age stuff is exempt on account of being the %0D%0A%3Ebest styles ever. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3E--G. %0D%0A%3E-%3E%3C- %0D%0A%3EBenjamin D. Hutchins%2C Co-Founder%2C Editor in Chief%2C Netadmin %0D%0A%3EEyrie Productions%2C Unlimited http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eyrie-productions.com%2F %0D%0A%0D%0APersonally%2C I like the Mission Style Furniture %3A%29%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A 16|2|6|||||RE%3A Hrmph|Phantom||06:13:47|02/25/2002|%3E%0D%0A%3EMy Little Ponies in antique stores%3F What%27s next%2C Teenage Mutant Ninja %0D%0A%3ETurtles%3F Christ.%0D%0AActually%2C Yes I have seen both in an antique toy store near me.%0D%0AAlong with He-Man%2C Voltron%2C G.I. Joe%2C %26 Transformers... And the%0D%0Aprices were something I expect to see on rare antiques..%0D%0A%2ASigh%2A%0D%0APhantom%0D%0A%0D%0A 18|3|16|||||RE%3A Hrmph|cyberpagan||03:56:30|02/26/2002|[font size="1" color="#FF0000"]LAST EDITED ON Feb-26-02 AT 04:02 AM (EST)[/font][p]%5Bfont size%3D%221%22 color%3D%22%23FF0000%22%5DLAST EDITED ON Feb-26-02 AT 03%3A58%A0AM %28EST%29%5B%2Ffont%5D%0D%0A%0D%0A%3E%3E%0D%0A%3E%3EMy Little Ponies in antique stores%3F What%27s next%2C Teenage Mutant Ninja %0D%0A%3E%3ETurtles%3F Christ.%0D%0A%3EActually%2C Yes I have seen both in an antique toy store near me. %0D%0A%3EAlong with He-Man%2C Voltron%2C G.I. Joe%2C %26 Transformers... And the %0D%0A%3Eprices were something I expect to see on rare antiques.. %0D%0A%3E%2ASigh%2A %0D%0A%3EPhantom %0D%0A%0D%0AI saw a toy I owned in a %22museum%22%21 I was shocked to say the least. I don%27t feel or act much different now than at any significantly younger age%2C and I%27m 42 now %28yes%2C I%27m ancient.%29 I still have hair past my shoulders%2C no grey %28 and I DON%27T die it%29%2C no bald spot%2C no wrinkles that haven%27t been there for 20 years. When I look in the mirror I don%27t see an old or even middle aged man%2C and I like to think my tastes have changed with the times%2C although I still like the things I always liked in the past%2C I just keep finding new things I like. But seeing one of my favourite toys in a museum%21 That was disturbing. And I felt old the first time I could say I remembered the way something was %2720 years ago%27. And yes%2C I saw Star Wars when it came out%2C in a DRIVE IN%21 I was about to be a senior in high school at the time. I remember the gas crises%2C and 8 tracks and Disco. I%27m currently married to a beautiful 20 year old%2C and we were married a week after her 18th birthday. She is a constant reminder of how old I feel%2C as opposed to how old I am. She is a full time college student%2C and almost our entire circle of friends are around her age. I like to think I fit right in%2C just with a lot more experiance. And like everybody%2C I wish I still had all that junk that is now worth a fortune%2C but if that were true for everybody%2C then it wouldn%27t be worth anything. I%27ve started rambling%2C so I guess it%27s time for my medication. Come along old man%2C take your pills like a good boy...%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%0D%0ACyberPagan RCW%23665 the other neighbor of the beast.%0D%0A %22I%27m really here%2C but I%27m not here really...%22%0D%0A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A%2A 12|1|0|||||RE%3A Hrmph|drakensisthered||08:15:03|02/24/2002|%3EIt really makes your day when you%27re only 20 years old and are already %0D%0A%3Econsidered part of the %22out%22 crowd because someone half your age says %0D%0A%3Ethat you%27re %22like...so 90%27s.%22 %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3ENot that I really mind because I never saw anything special about the %0D%0A%3E%22in%22 crowd%2C but still... %0D%0A%0D%0ADepressing in another direction%2C my last birthday my manager at work asked how old I was. When I told her she shot back a shocked %27I thought you were at least _my_ age%27. Everyone else in the office turned out to be a couple of years younger than me and thought the gap was bigger. That%27s when you know you%27ve been seriously letting yourself slip%2C people over-estimating your age by almost 10 years.%0D%0A%0D%0AAt least my parents are still waiting for me to grow up.%0D%0A%0D%0Adrakensisthered%0D%0A%0D%0AWho%27ll live forever or die trying. 19|1|0|||||RE%3A Hrmph|Ebony||14:37:54|02/26/2002|Song for the Forum%2C%0D%0AFebruary 26%2C 2002%0D%0A%0D%0AThe first time I heard %93Peggy Sue%94%0D%0AI was 12 years old%0D%0ARussians up in rocket ships%0D%0AAnd the war was cold%0D%0ANow many wars have come and gone%0D%0AGenocide still goes on%0D%0ABuddy Holly still goes on%0D%0ABut his catalog was sold%0D%0A%0D%0AFirst time I smoked%0D%0AGuess what - paranoid%0D%0AFirst time I heard %93Satisfaction%94%0D%0AI was young and unemployed%0D%0ADown the decades every year%0D%0ASummer leaves and my birthday%92s here%0D%0AAnd all my friends stand up and cheer%0D%0AAnd say Man you%92re old%0D%0AGetting old%0D%0AOld%0D%0AGetting old%0D%0A%0D%0AWe celebrate the birth of Jesus on Christmas day%0D%0AAnd Buddha found nirvana along the lotus way%0D%0AAbout 1%2C500 years ago the messenger Mohammed spoke%0D%0AAnd his wisdom like a river flowed%0D%0AThrough hills of gold%0D%0AWisdom is old%0D%0AThe Koran is old%0D%0AThe Bible%92s old%0D%0AGreatest story ever told%0D%0A%0D%0ADisagreements%3F%0D%0AWork %92em out%0D%0A%0D%0AThe human race has walked the earth for 2.7 million%0D%0AAnd we estimate the universe at 13-14 billion%0D%0AWhen all these numbers tumble into your imagination%0D%0AConsider that the Lord was there before creation%0D%0AGod is old%0D%0AWe%92re not old%0D%0AGod is old%0D%0AHe made the mold%0D%0A%0D%0ATake your clothes off%0D%0AAdam and Eve%0D%0A%0D%0A%22Old%2C%22 Paul Simon%0D%0A%0D%0AEbony the Black Dragon%0D%0Aaka Draco Draconis Ebenium%0D%0Aknown to the Census Board as Aaron F. Johnson%2C%0D%0ASenior Editor%2C Living Room Games%0D%0Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.lrgames.com%0D%0A%0D%0A %0D%0A 20|1|0|||||RE%3A Hrmph|Jeffrey||17:04:48|03/14/2002|%28Revisiting old threads isn%27t my usual MO%2C but I made an exception this time.%29%0D%0A%0D%0AThe profile of the entering college freshman class for the fall of 1999%3A%0D%0A%0D%0A1. The people who are starting college this fall across the nation were born in 1981.%0D%0A2. They have no meaningful recollection of the Reagan Era and did not know he had ever been shot.%0D%0A3. They were prepubescent when the Gulf War was waged.%0D%0A4. Black Monday 1987 is as significant to them as the Great Depression.%0D%0A5. There has only been one Pope. They can only really remember one President.%0D%0A6. They were only 12 when the Soviet Union broke apart and do not remember the Cold War.%0D%0A7. They have never feared a nuclear war. %22The Day After%22 is a pill to them%2C not a movie.%0D%0A8. They are too young to remember the space shuttle blowing up.%0D%0A9. Tiananmen Square means nothing to them.%0D%0A10. Their lifetime has always included AIDS.%0D%0A11. Bottle caps have always been screw-off and plastic.%0D%0A12. Atari pre-dates them%2C as do vinyl albums.%0D%0A13. The expression %22you sound like a broken record%22 means nothing to them.%0D%0A14. They have never owned a record player.%0D%0A15. They have likely never played Pac-Man and have never heard of Pong.%0D%0A16. Star Wars looks very fake to them%2C and the special effects are pathetic.%0D%0A17. There have always been red M%26M%27s%2C and blue ones are not new. They never knew there were once beige ones.%0D%0A18. They may have heard of an 8 track but never have actually seen or heard one.%0D%0A19. The compact disc was introduced when they were 2 years old.%0D%0A20. As far as they know%2C stamps have always cost 32 cents.%0D%0A21. They have always had an answering machine.%0D%0A22. Most have never seen a TV with only 13 channels%2C nor have they seen a black-and-white TV.%0D%0A23. They have always had cable.%0D%0A24. There have always been VCRs%2C but they have no idea what Beta is.%0D%0A25. They cannot fathom not having a remote control.%0D%0A26. They were born the year after the Walkman was introduced by Sony.%0D%0A27. %22Roller-skating%22 means nothing to them%3B the term is %22roller-blading.%22%0D%0A28. The Tonight Show has always been Jay Leno.%0D%0A29. They have no idea when or why Jordache jeans were cool.%0D%0A30. Popcorn has always been cooked in the microwave.%0D%0A31. They have never seen Larry Bird play%2C and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar is a football player.%0D%0A32. They never took a swim and thought about Jaws.%0D%0A33. The Vietnam War is as ancient history to them as WWI%2C WWII%2C or even the Civil War.%0D%0A34. They have no idea that Americans were ever held hostage in Iran.%0D%0A35. They can%27t imagine what hard contact lenses are.%0D%0A36. They don%27t know who Mork was or where he was from.%0D%0A37. They never heard%3A %22Where%27s the beef%3F%22%2C %22I%27d walk a mile for a Camel%22%2C or %22de plane%2C de plane%21%22%0D%0A38. The Titanic was found%3F I thought we always knew where it was.%0D%0A39. Michael Jackson has always been white.%0D%0A40. Kansas%2C Chicago%2C Boston%2C America%2C and Alabama are places%2C not groups.%0D%0A41. McDonald%27s never came in styrofoam containers.%0D%0A42. There has always been MTV and ESPN.%0D%0A43. They don%27t know how to use a rotary dial telephone.%0D%0A%0D%0AHow many points are valid for you%3F%0D%0A%0D%0A----------%0D%0AJeffrey McIntyre%0D%0A%22I guess I%27m just an old-fashioned sentimentalist at heart. I refuse to accept a no-win scenario. I hate the thought of a universe without justice. If the maneuverings of dark powers can%27t be exposed and defeated by the pure of heart%2C then there%27s no point in anything.%22%0D%0A%0D%0A%28What%3F It%27s a good quote%21%29 21|2|20|||||RE%3A Hrmph|Wedge||17:17:57|03/14/2002|%3E20. As far as they know%2C stamps have always cost 32 cents. %0D%0A%0D%0AThe fact that stamps are 34 cents now pretty much dates how long this has been forwarded in email.%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Btable border%3D%220%22 cellspacing%3D%220%22 cellpadding%3D%220%22%5D%5Btr%5D%5Btd colspan%3D%222%22%5D%5Bhr size%3D%221%22 noshade%5D%5B%2Ftd%5D%5Btr%5D%5Btd%5Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fhomepage.mac.com%2Fwedge%2Fstuff%2Fnall.jpg%5B%2Ftd%5D%5Btd%5DChad Collier%0D%0ADigital Bitch%0D%0AJ. Random VFX Company%0D%0A%5Bfont color%3D%230000CC%5DRCW %231138%5B%2Ffont%5D%5B%2Ftd%5D%5B%2Ftr%5D%5Btr%5D%5Btd colspan%3D%222%22%5D%5Bhr size%3D%221%22 noshade%5D%5B%2Ftd%5D%5Btr%5D%5B%2Ftable%5D 22|2|20|||||RE%3A Hrmph|Neophyte||17:30:19|03/14/2002|%3EHow many points are valid for you%3F %0D%0A%0D%0AStarted college fall of 2001%3A%0D%0A3%2C 5%2C 7%2C 8%2C 10%2C 12%2C 14%2C 18%2C 28%2C 29%2C 33%2C 36%2C 37%2C 40%2C 42%0D%0Aapply as stated%0D%0A%0D%0A1%2C 6%2C 19%2C 26%0D%0Aare actually understated %28by being 2 years younger than the referenced group%29%0D%0A%0D%0ALess than half%2C not bad.%0D%0A%5Btable border%3D%220%22 cellspacing%3D%220%22 cellpadding%3D%220%22%5D%0D%0A%5Btr%5D%5Btd colspan%3D%222%22%5D%5Bhr size%3D%221%22 noshade%5D%5B%2Ftd%5D%5B%2Ftr%5D%5Btr%5D%5Btd%5Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fweasels.ronin-research.org%2Fneophyte.gif%5B%2Ftd%5D%0D%0A%5Btd%5D%5Btt%5D%5Bb%5DY. Michael Chang%5B%2Fb%5D%0D%0AMechanical Engineering major%2C Berkeley%2C CA%0D%0ARabid Crack Weasel%23 1101%0D%0A%5B%2Ftt%5D%5B%2Ftd%5D%5B%2Ftr%5D%5Btr%5D%5Btd colspan%3D%222%22%5D%5Bhr size%3D%221%22 noshade%5D%5B%2Ftd%5D%5B%2Ftr%5D%5B%2Ftable%5D%5B%2Fp%5D 23|2|20|||||RE%3A Hrmph|Kingcake||19:30:55|03/14/2002|I have a big long response written for this... but I%27m thinking I shouldn%27t increase the thread length unnecessarily. If someone wants to see it%2C they can email me. 24|2|20|||||RE%3A Hrmph|Pasha||21:12:39|03/15/2002|%3EThe profile of the entering college freshman class for the fall of %0D%0A%3E1999%3A %0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A1%2C 2 %28kinda. I have no meaningful recollection%2C but I did know6 that he had been shot.%29%2C 3%2C 4%2C6%2C7 %28only because I have no fear of %2Aany%2A sort of war. I can%27t control it%2C so I don%27t fear it.%29 8%2C 10%2C 19%2C 26%2C 29 %28I remember when%2C just not %2Awhy%2A%29%2C %2Anot%2A 31 %28I saw him play in %2Aperson%2A thank you very much%21%29%2C 32 %28Grew up next to the beach. See %237 for reason why I didn%27t worry.%29 39 %28I think it%27s a wonderful country we live in where a young black boy can grow up to be a white woman..%29%0D%0A%0D%0A-Pasha%0D%0AUmm%2C right....I%27ll be with you in just a sec now...%0D%0ARCW%23228 25|2|20|||||RE%3A Hrmph|Perko||15:15:15|03/16/2002|[font size="1" color="#FF0000"]LAST EDITED ON Mar-16-02 AT 03:20 PM (EST)[/font][p]%28Sigh%29. I see it doesn%27t apply much to the crowd here. I guess this might be more true for people who are complete non-intellectuals. I was born in 80%2C and although I obviously don%27t %5Bi%5Dremember%5B%2Fi%5D the stuff from that long ago%2C I certainly %5Bi%5Dknow%5B%2Fi%5D all about it.%0D%0A%0D%0AIt was a sad day when I realized that I knew more about the Challenger explosion than my 60%2B year old Stats teacher%2C who was attempting to use it as an example of bad statistics.%0D%0A%0D%0AEdit ---%3E to not sound like a complete dick.%0D%0A%5Btable border%3D%220%22 cellspacing%3D%220%22 cellpadding%3D%221%22%5D%5Btr%5D%5Btd colspan%3D%222%22%5D%5Bhr size%3D1 noshade%5D%5B%2Ftd%5D%5B%2Ftr%5D%5Btr%5D%5Btd width%3D%2265%22%5Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.wpi.edu%2F%7Eperko%2Fminime.jpg%5B%2Ftd%5D%5Btd%5D%5Bfont color%3D%22%230000aa%22%5DCraig %22I%27m not old%2C I%27m a geek%22 Perko%5B%2Ffont%5D %0D%0A%5Bfont color%3D%22%23880000%22 size%3D-1%5DLost in my own maze.%5B%2Ffont%5D %0D%0A%5Bfont color%3D%22%23aa0088%22 size%3D-1%5DConfused but not concerned.%5B%2Ffont%5D %0D%0A%5Bfont color%3D%22%2300aa88%22 size%3D-1%5DConfused but not concerned.%5B%2Ffont%5D %0D%0A%5B%2Ftd%5D%5B%2Ftr%5D%5Btr%5D%5Btd colspan%3D%222%22%5D%5Bhr size%3D1 noshade%5D%5B%2Ftd%5D%5B%2Ftr%5D %0D%0A%5B%2Ftable%5D 26|3|25|||||RE%3A Hrmph|Derek Andersen||03:56:19|03/17/2002|%3E%28Sigh%29. I see it doesn%27t apply much to the crowd here. I guess this %0D%0A%3Emight be more true for people who are complete non-intellectuals. I %0D%0A%3Ewas born in 80%2C and although I obviously don%27t %5Bi%5Dremember%5B%2Fi%5D the %0D%0A%3Estuff from that long ago%2C I certainly %5Bi%5Dknow%5B%2Fi%5D all about it. %0D%0A%0D%0ASame here. I may not have first-hand memories of things like the Vietnam War%2C but I%27ve been a voracious reader since%2C well%2C I learned to read%3B there were only a few things on the list that would apply%2C and I was born in 1980. Arbitrarily chosen lists like that one just don%27t mean much. %0D%0A%0D%0ABesides%2C my first videogame system was a dedicated Pong system %28which was%2C admittedly%2C old when we got it%2C way back in %2785 or so%29. %0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0ADerek Andersen%0D%0A