17||0|2623|0|yes 0|0|0|||1||Aliens%3A Colonial Marines|JeanneHedge||20:49:54|02/03/2013|[updated:LAST EDITED ON Feb-03-13 AT 08:50 PM (EST)]Saw an ad this weekend for a Sega game %22%5Blink%3Awww.sega.com%2Falienscolonialmarines%2F%7CAliens%3A Colonial Marines%5D%22. Didn%27t that ship sail along about 1986%3F%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0AJeanne%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Btable border%3D%220%22 cellspacing%3D%220%22 cellpadding%3D%220%22 width%3D%2280%25%22%5D%5Btr%5D%5Btd colspan%3D%222%22%5D%5Bhr size%3D%221%22 noshade%5D%5B%2Ftd%5D%5Btr%5D%5Btd align%3D%22center%22 width%3D%2210%25%22%5Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.jhedge.com%2Fmisc%2Foldowl.jpg%5B%2Ftd%5D%5Btd%5D%5Bfont size%3D2%5D%5Bb%5DJeanne Hedge%5B%2Fb%5D%0D%0A%5Blink%3Awww.jhedge.com%7Chttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.jhedge.com%5D%5B%2Ffont%5D%5B%2Ftd%5D%5B%2Ftr%5D%5Btr%5D%5Btd colspan%3D%222%22%5D%5Bi%5D%5Bfont size%3D1%5D%22Never give up%2C never surrender%21%22%5B%2Ffont%5D%0D%0A%5B%2Fi%5D%5B%2Ftd%5D%5B%2Ftr%5D%5Btr%5D%5Btd colspan%3D%222%22%5D%5Bhr size%3D%221%22 noshade%5D%5B%2Ftd%5D%5B%2Ftr%5D%5B%2Ftable%5D 1|1|0|||||RE%3A Aliens%3A Colonial Marines|glasswalker||21:44:44|02/03/2013|One might think. Then again%2C 10 years after the movie%2C the %22official%22 Colonial Marines tech manual was published%2C and seemed to sell well. Maybe the CM are the Aliens-verse equivalent of Boba Fett -- relatively minor characters who gained disproportionate popularity. 2|1|0|||1||RE%3A Aliens%3A Colonial Marines|Gryphon||21:46:00|02/03/2013|%3ESaw an ad this weekend for a Sega game %0D%0A%3E%22%5Blink%3Awww.sega.com%2Falienscolonialmarines%2F%7CAliens%3A Colonial Marines%5D%22. %0D%0A%3E Didn%27t that ship sail along about 1986%3F %0D%0A%0D%0AThat%27s the beautiful thing about modern pop culture. Its ships%2C it appears%2C can sail again and again and again.%0D%0A%0D%0A--G.%0D%0A-%3E%3C-%0D%0ABenjamin D. Hutchins%2C Co-Founder%2C Editor-in-Chief%2C %26 Forum Mod%0D%0AEyrie Productions%2C Unlimited http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eyrie-productions.com%2F%0D%0Azgryphon at that email service Google has%0D%0A%5Bi%5DCeterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam.%5B%2Fi%5D 5|2|2|||||RE%3A Aliens%3A Colonial Marines|CdrMike||14:46:47|02/04/2013|%3E%3ESaw an ad this weekend for a Sega game %0D%0A%3E%3E%22%5Blink%3Awww.sega.com%2Falienscolonialmarines%2F%7CAliens%3A Colonial Marines%5D%22. %0D%0A%3E%3E Didn%27t that ship sail along about 1986%3F %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3EThat%27s the beautiful thing about modern pop culture. Its ships%2C it %0D%0A%3Eappears%2C can sail again and again and again. %0D%0A%0D%0AEven if fans of the %22originals%22 would like nothing better than to send said ships to Davy Jones%27 Locker. 3|1|0|||1||RE%3A Aliens%3A Colonial Marines|Peter Eng||02:54:31|02/04/2013|%3ESaw an ad this weekend for a Sega game %0D%0A%3E%22%5Blink%3Awww.sega.com%2Falienscolonialmarines%2F%7CAliens%3A Colonial Marines%5D%22. %0D%0A%3E Didn%27t that ship sail along about 1986%3F %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3EJeanne %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%0D%0ASo%2C it%27s about thirty years gone now%3F%0D%0A%0D%0AI think that%27s the traditional starting point for nostalgia waves. Although%2C nostalgia not being quite the same as it used to be%2C there seems to be a lot of people who are slightly annoyed at being born too late to get in on the 1980s%2C which is apparently when they think all the Really Good Songs and Films were made. They might actually be a viable target market.%0D%0A%0D%0AAll things considered%2C it%27s not a bad plan. There%27s almost no canon to work around%2C Xenomorphs are just as good as zombies for %22something that we can have the player kill by the dozen without complaints from the public%2C%22 and they have an excuse to use any environment they like.%0D%0A%0D%0APeter Eng%0D%0A--%0D%0AInsert humorous comment here. 4|1|0|||1||RE%3A Aliens%3A Colonial Marines|laudre||08:30:07|02/04/2013|%5Blink%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FAliens_versus_Predator_%28video_game%29%7CNot by%5D %5Blink%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FAliens_versus_Predator_2%7Ca long%5D %5Blink%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FAliens_vs._Predator_%28video_game%29%7Cshot%5D.%0D%0A%0D%0AAnd those are just the FPS games released for PC%2C to which %5Bi%5DAliens%3A Colonial Marines%5B%2Fi%5D is a spiritual successor %28and%2C in fact%2C is the %5Bi%5Dsecond%5B%2Fi%5D Sega-published game based on the franchise in the FPS genre -- the previous one%2C the third linked above%2C was developed by the studio responsible for the first two%29.%0D%0A%0D%0ABoth franchises %28%5Bi%5DPredator%5B%2Fi%5D much moreso than %5Bi%5DAlien%5B%2Fi%5D%2C but%2C nonetheless%2C both%29 have seen continued development outside their original medium since their respective debuts. The mixture of their mythologies has been going on for some time%2C in fact%3B the 2004 film drew upon one of the key conceits in that crossover%2C i.e. that Predators hunt xenomorphs as a rite of passage using dedicated sites. %28IIRC%2C in the comics and prose novels%2C they use entire %5Bi%5Dplanets%5B%2Fi%5D given over to xenomorphs%2C not just a site here and there.%29%0D%0A%0D%0A%22Mathematics brought rigor to economics. Unfortunately%2C it also brought mortis.%22%0D%0A - Kenneth Boulding 6|1|0|||||RE%3A Aliens%3A Colonial Marines|CGWolfgang||01:25:34|02/05/2013|The interesting thing about this is that aparently this one is going to be a continuation of the movie Aliens. So its supposed to be on LV426 with a level or two on the Nostromo. I dunno how well its going to do since historically Aliens video games tend not to do so well. But Gearbox is the developer so there%27s some hope there.%0D%0A%0D%0AI mean it couldn%27t be worse than Prometheus amiright%3F%0D%0A 7|2|6|||1||RE%3A Aliens%3A Colonial Marines|JeanneHedge||18:55:24|02/05/2013|%3EThe interesting thing about this is that aparently this one is going %0D%0A%3Eto be a continuation of the movie Aliens. So its supposed to be on %0D%0A%3ELV426 with a level or two on the Nostromo. I dunno how well its going %0D%0A%3Eto do since historically Aliens video games tend not to do so well. %0D%0A%3EBut Gearbox is the developer so there%27s some hope there. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3EI mean it couldn%27t be worse than Prometheus amiright%3F %0D%0A%0D%0ASounds worse than %5Bi%5DPrometheus%5B%2Fi%5D%2C in some ways. How can they continue the movie %5Bi%5DAliens%5B%2Fi%5D%2C yet have levels involving Colonial Marines on %5Bi%5DNostromo%5B%2Fi%5D%3F %28has to be CM%2C can%27t be anyone else in a level or two of something named %22Colonial Marines%22%29 %5Bi%5DNostromo%5B%2Fi%5D was destroyed 57 years before %5Bi%5DAliens%5B%2Fi%5D begins.%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0AOk%2C ok%2C don%27t be so picky Jeanne.....%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0AJeanne%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Btable border%3D%220%22 cellspacing%3D%220%22 cellpadding%3D%220%22 width%3D%2280%25%22%5D%5Btr%5D%5Btd colspan%3D%222%22%5D%5Bhr size%3D%221%22 noshade%5D%5B%2Ftd%5D%5Btr%5D%5Btd align%3D%22center%22 width%3D%2210%25%22%5Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.jhedge.com%2Fmisc%2Foldowl.jpg%5B%2Ftd%5D%5Btd%5D%5Bfont size%3D2%5D%5Bb%5DJeanne Hedge%5B%2Fb%5D%0D%0A%5Blink%3Awww.jhedge.com%7Chttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.jhedge.com%5D%5B%2Ffont%5D%5B%2Ftd%5D%5B%2Ftr%5D%5Btr%5D%5Btd colspan%3D%222%22%5D%5Bi%5D%5Bfont size%3D1%5D%22Never give up%2C never surrender%21%22%5B%2Ffont%5D%0D%0A%5B%2Fi%5D%5B%2Ftd%5D%5B%2Ftr%5D%5Btr%5D%5Btd colspan%3D%222%22%5D%5Bhr size%3D%221%22 noshade%5D%5B%2Ftd%5D%5B%2Ftr%5D%5B%2Ftable%5D 8|3|7|||||RE%3A Aliens%3A Colonial Marines|Senji||07:07:26|02/06/2013|%3ESounds worse than %5Bi%5DPrometheus%5B%2Fi%5D%2C in some ways. How can they %0D%0A%3Econtinue the movie %5Bi%5DAliens%5B%2Fi%5D%2C yet have levels involving Colonial %0D%0A%3EMarines on %5Bi%5DNostromo%5B%2Fi%5D%3F %28has to be CM%2C can%27t be anyone else in a %0D%0A%3Elevel or two of something named %22Colonial Marines%22%29 %5Bi%5DNostromo%5B%2Fi%5D %0D%0A%3Ewas destroyed 57 years before %5Bi%5DAliens%5B%2Fi%5D begins. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A Flashback scene%3F%0D%0A%0D%0AS. 9|4|8|||1||RE%3A Aliens%3A Colonial Marines|JeanneHedge||18:02:13|02/06/2013|%3E%3ESounds worse than %5Bi%5DPrometheus%5B%2Fi%5D%2C in some ways. How can they %0D%0A%3E%3Econtinue the movie %5Bi%5DAliens%5B%2Fi%5D%2C yet have levels involving Colonial %0D%0A%3E%3EMarines on %5Bi%5DNostromo%5B%2Fi%5D%3F %28has to be CM%2C can%27t be anyone else in a %0D%0A%3E%3Elevel or two of something named %22Colonial Marines%22%29 %5Bi%5DNostromo%5B%2Fi%5D %0D%0A%3E%3Ewas destroyed 57 years before %5Bi%5DAliens%5B%2Fi%5D begins. %0D%0A%3E%3E%0D%0A%3E Flashback scene%3F %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3ES. %0D%0A%0D%0ARipley was secretly part of the CM while she was officially 2nd officer on %5Bi%5DNostromo%5B%2Fi%5D%3F%0D%0A%0D%0AJeanne%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Btable border%3D%220%22 cellspacing%3D%220%22 cellpadding%3D%220%22 width%3D%2280%25%22%5D%5Btr%5D%5Btd colspan%3D%222%22%5D%5Bhr size%3D%221%22 noshade%5D%5B%2Ftd%5D%5Btr%5D%5Btd align%3D%22center%22 width%3D%2210%25%22%5Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.jhedge.com%2Fmisc%2Foldowl.jpg%5B%2Ftd%5D%5Btd%5D%5Bfont size%3D2%5D%5Bb%5DJeanne Hedge%5B%2Fb%5D%0D%0A%5Blink%3Awww.jhedge.com%7Chttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.jhedge.com%5D%5B%2Ffont%5D%5B%2Ftd%5D%5B%2Ftr%5D%5Btr%5D%5Btd colspan%3D%222%22%5D%5Bi%5D%5Bfont size%3D1%5D%22Never give up%2C never surrender%21%22%5B%2Ffont%5D%0D%0A%5B%2Fi%5D%5B%2Ftd%5D%5B%2Ftr%5D%5Btr%5D%5Btd colspan%3D%222%22%5D%5Bhr size%3D%221%22 noshade%5D%5B%2Ftd%5D%5B%2Ftr%5D%5B%2Ftable%5D 10|3|7|||||RE%3A Aliens%3A Colonial Marines|CGWolfgang||21:55:45|02/06/2013|The video I watched said Nostromo however maybe it was wrong there too. Intead of the Nostromo maybe it was the first Marines transport that you get to play through. 11|4|10|||1||RE%3A Aliens%3A Colonial Marines|laudre||06:28:43|02/07/2013|%3EThe video I watched said Nostromo however maybe it was wrong there %0D%0A%3Etoo. Intead of the Nostromo maybe it was the first Marines transport %0D%0A%3Ethat you get to play through. %0D%0A%0D%0AThat %5Bi%5Dwould%5B%2Fi%5D make considerably more sense. And while %22making sense%22 is not strictly necessary for a video game to be enjoyable%2C in this particular case%2C it%27s considerably more important than usual.%0D%0A%0D%0A%22Mathematics brought rigor to economics. Unfortunately%2C it also brought mortis.%22%0D%0A - Kenneth Boulding 12|2|6|||||RE%3A Aliens%3A Colonial Marines|CdrMike||11:46:55|02/07/2013|%3EThe interesting thing about this is that aparently this one is going %0D%0A%3Eto be a continuation of the movie Aliens. So its supposed to be on %0D%0A%3ELV426 with a level or two on the Nostromo. I dunno how well its going %0D%0A%3Eto do since historically Aliens video games tend not to do so well. %0D%0A%3EBut Gearbox is the developer so there%27s some hope there. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%0D%0AAccording to Wiki at least%2C Fox is acknowledging the game as canon to the %5Bi%5DAliens%5B%2Fi%5D franchise and a sequel to %5Bi%5DAliens%5B%2Fi%5D%2C so that%27s a major selling point. Though the only ship I%27ve heard in conjunction with this is the USS Sulaco%2C which makes sense as it was never spelled out what happened to her.%0D%0A%0D%0A%3EI mean it couldn%27t be worse than Prometheus amiright%3F %0D%0A%0D%0AScott apparently was queried as to the script for %5Bi%5DPrometheus%5B%2Fi%5D%2C so don%27t be surprised if they managed to sneak in some easter eggs. 13|3|12|||1||RE%3A Aliens%3A Colonial Marines|JeanneHedge||18:49:30|02/07/2013|[updated:LAST EDITED ON Feb-07-13 AT 06:50 PM (EST)]%3EThough the only ship I%27ve heard in conjunction %0D%0A%3Ewith this is the USS Sulaco%2C which makes sense as it was never spelled %0D%0A%3Eout what happened to her. %0D%0A%0D%0AWe know from Alien%5E3 that there was an onboard fire %28or perhaps the aliens caused the fire detectors to think there was an onboard fire%2C I don%27t remember which%29%2C which caused the escape pod with Ripley et.al. to be ejected. But you%27re right%2C we don%27t know what ultimately happened to the ship itself after that. If it didn%27t crash%2C it%27s probably Alien Central%2C which would make sense for a game set aboard - the CM want to recover the ship%2C and they have to clear it first.%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0AJeanne%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Btable border%3D%220%22 cellspacing%3D%220%22 cellpadding%3D%220%22 width%3D%2280%25%22%5D%5Btr%5D%5Btd colspan%3D%222%22%5D%5Bhr size%3D%221%22 noshade%5D%5B%2Ftd%5D%5Btr%5D%5Btd align%3D%22center%22 width%3D%2210%25%22%5Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.jhedge.com%2Fmisc%2Foldowl.jpg%5B%2Ftd%5D%5Btd%5D%5Bfont size%3D2%5D%5Bb%5DJeanne Hedge%5B%2Fb%5D%0D%0A%5Blink%3Awww.jhedge.com%7Chttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.jhedge.com%5D%5B%2Ffont%5D%5B%2Ftd%5D%5B%2Ftr%5D%5Btr%5D%5Btd colspan%3D%222%22%5D%5Bi%5D%5Bfont size%3D1%5D%22Never give up%2C never surrender%21%22%5B%2Ffont%5D%0D%0A%5B%2Fi%5D%5B%2Ftd%5D%5B%2Ftr%5D%5Btr%5D%5Btd colspan%3D%222%22%5D%5Bhr size%3D%221%22 noshade%5D%5B%2Ftd%5D%5B%2Ftr%5D%5B%2Ftable%5D 14|1|0|||1||RE%3A Aliens%3A Colonial Marines|laudre||11:41:17|02/13/2013|[updated:LAST EDITED ON Feb-13-13 AT 11:41 AM (EST)]The reviews are in%2C and%2C it%27s a train wreck.%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Blink%3Awww.eurogamer.net%2Farticles%2F2013-02-12-aliens-colonial-marines-review%7CEurogamer%3A 3%2F10%5D. %22Colonial Marines aims low and it still misses the target...%22%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Blink%3Akotaku.com%2F5983463%2Faliens-colonial-marines-the-kotaku-review%7CKotaku%3A Should you play this%3F NO.%5D %22A game based on existing media has three options. It can strive to be faithful to the original work%2C privileging authenticity above all else. It can try to do its own thing%2C using the original work as merely a jumping off point for something else. Or%2C it can try to find a balance between authenticity and originality. %5Bi%5DAliens%3A Colonial Marines%5B%2Fi%5D fails spectacularly at all three of these possible approaches.%22%0D%0A%0D%0AIGN%3A %5Blink%3Awww.ign.com%2Farticles%2F2013%2F02%2F12%2Faliens-colonial-marines-360ps3-review%7C4.5%2F10 %28console version%29%5D%5Blink%3Awww.ign.com%2Farticles%2F2013%2F02%2F12%2Faliens-colonial-marines-pc-review%7C5%2F10 %28PC version%29%5D. %22... Colonial Marines is for the most part a disappointingly mundane%2C run %91n%92 gun first-person shooter that fails to captivate once the initial rush of nostalgia has worn off. At its worst%2C it simply feels unfinished - which is a surprise given how long it%27s been in development.%22%0D%0A%0D%0AThey all come down to the same complaints%3A it%27s horribly glitchy and buggy%2C the enemy AI has not a shred of I%2C it looks like shit even putting aside the numerous graphical bugs and such%2C and the single-player campaign -- all of 4 - 6 hours in length -- is so poorly written and executed that it makes all of the above even worse. Apparently multiplayer sucks less%2C but that%27s not a high bar.%0D%0A%0D%0ALastly%2C in a stunning example of the blatant payola that infects certain corners of game journalism%2C %5Blink%3Awww.egmnow.com%2Farticles%2Freviews%2Fegm-review-aliens-colonial-marines%2F%7CEGM gives it 9%2F10%5D.%0D%0A%0D%0AA Reddit post from someone claiming to be from Gearbox %5Blink%3Awww.reddit.com%2Fr%2FLV426%2Fcomments%2F18ewf4%2Fa_lot_of_you_are_rightfully_upset_at_the_final%2F%7Cexplains why and how it all went horribly wrong%5D %28very short version%3A subcontracted out a lot of development due to resource constraints from trying to get it out at the same time as %5Bi%5DBorderlands 2%5B%2Fi%5D%2C which had completely the opposite critical and popular reception%2C and no time to clean up the awful mess subcontractors handed them%2C given the pressure Sega was putting on them to get something out after %5Bi%5Dsix freaking years%5B%2Fi%5D%29. Take it with appropriate quantities of sodium chloride%2C of course%2C but it seems rather plausible to me%2C especially in light of the similar train wreck around %5Bi%5DDuke Nukem Forever%5B%2Fi%5D.%0D%0A%0D%0A%22Mathematics brought rigor to economics. Unfortunately%2C it also brought mortis.%22%0D%0A - Kenneth Boulding 15|2|14|||1||RE%3A Aliens%3A Colonial Marines|ebony14||14:45:28|02/13/2013|%5Ba href%3D%22http%3A%2F%2Fwww.penny-arcade.com%2Fcomic%2F2013%2F02%2F13%22%5DPenny Arcade%5B%2Fa%5D has weighed in on it as well.%0D%0A%0D%0AEbony the Black Dragon%0D%0A%0D%0A%22Life is like an anole. Sometimes it%27s green. Sometimes it%27s brown. But it%27s always a small Caribbean lizard.%22 16|2|14|||||RE%3A Aliens%3A Colonial Marines|CdrMike||01:43:40|02/14/2013|Which means in a week or two%2C Yahtzee%27s gonna rip it a new one. That should be fun to watch. 17|2|14|||1||RE%3A Aliens%3A Colonial Marines|Chris Redfield||09:11:34|02/14/2013|%0D%0A%3ELastly%2C in a stunning example of the blatant payola that infects %0D%0A%3Ecertain corners of game journalism%2C %0D%0A%3E%5Blink%3Awww.egmnow.com%2Farticles%2Freviews%2Fegm-review-aliens-colonial-marines%2F%7CEGM %0D%0A%3Egives it 9%2F10%5D. %0D%0A%0D%0AMaybe they were reviewing this youtube video for the game%3A%0D%0A%0D%0Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D8J8SzBhjqaQ%26feature%3Dyoutu.be%0D%0A%0D%0A-------------------------------------%0D%0AChris can%27t handle chemicals