23||0|2695|0|yes 0|0|0|||1||Mass Effect 1 %26 2 Steam Collection|twipper||12:26:49|02/20/2013|I gave in and purchased the Steam collection of Mass Effect 1 %26 2 Digital Deluxe edition. I%27ve wanted to play the games for a long time%2C and figured the Snowpocalypse that is hitting Kansas today would be a good day to start.%0D%0A%0D%0AAnyone here have any game-play tips or issues you wish you%27d known about when you started your first play-through%3F I get frustrated when I%27m many hours into a game and realize%2C %27oh%2C that is how that really works%27.%0D%0A%0D%0AMany anticipated thanks%2C%0D%0A%0D%0ABrian%0D%0A 1|1|0|||1||RE%3A Mass Effect 1 %26 2 Steam Collection|pjmoyer||12:59:34|02/20/2013|%3EAnyone here have any game-play tips or issues you wish you%27d known %0D%0A%3Eabout when you started your first play-through%3F I get frustrated when %0D%0A%3EI%27m many hours into a game and realize%2C %27oh%2C that is how that really %0D%0A%3Eworks%27. %0D%0A%0D%0A1%29 The %5Blink%3Amasseffect.wikia.com%7CMass Effect Wiki%5D is a good overall guide to the games%2C and can help you decide what classes and weapons you may want to use%2C especially in the first game where they%27re more prolifigate.%0D%0A%0D%0A2%29 In ME1%2C it is possible to make your sniper rifle infinite repeating with no cool down if you have the right mods. However%2C not all characters are cut out for sniping. Also%2C not all Shepards can use heavier armor%2C so that will have an influence on your class choice. The various classes have different skills that can be bought up that will make your weapons use easier.%0D%0A%0D%0A3%29 In ME1%2C you%27ll have to manage the loadouts for ALL your squad members%2C which can become tedious%2C especially when you want to upgrade everybody to Spectre weapons %28the overall best in the game%2C outside of specific gun%2Fmod combinations%29.%0D%0A%0D%0A4%29 In ME1%2C eventually you%27ll get so much low-level loot that it won%27t be worth the effort to sell it off -- liquifey it to Omnigel. Also%2C make sure you%27ve got enough space in the inventory before you open any container%2C because otherwise it may not let you pick up the goodies.%0D%0A%0D%0A5%29 The mining minigame with the Mako in ME1 can be a little frustrating at times%2C but you get to drive across alien vistas%2C find relics%2C locate ore reserves %28one of your prime sources of credits%2Ct he other being selling off higher-level gear%29%2C and with the existance of the maps in the wiki%2C not THAT much of a pain to go through %28though some of the ore deposits are in mountain crevices which are hard to get to -- join the Mako Mountain Climbing Club%21%29. As opposed to the minerals scanning game in ME2%2C where the minerals are soley for your upgrades %28so you%27ll need a lot%29%2C each planet must be scanned by holding down the cursor and dragging the radar over the planet%2C and to the best of my knowledge the locations on the planet are not %27set%27%2C it%27s just given percentages of how much you can find on the planet. Also%2C don%27t bother scanning any planet with resources below Fair or Poor %28unless they%27ve got some eezo. ALWAYS STRIPMINE a planet with ANY eezo%2C to be sure you get it all%29.%0D%0A%0D%0A6%29 Do NOT be pressured by the game%2Fgamers to %27twitch game%27 your way through the campaign. The power and weapon wheels are there for a reason %28on the console%2C at least%29%2C they can help you make better tactical decisions since things automatically pause as you determine what your squadmates should be aming at%2Fusing powers%2Fchoosing guns.%0D%0A%0D%0Amore to come in the future%2C I%27m sure...%0D%0A%0D%0A--- Philip%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Btable%5D%5Btr%5D%5Btd colspan%3D%223%22%5D%5Bhr size%3D2 noshade%5D%5B%2Ftd%5D%5B%2Ftr%5D%0D%0A%5Btr%5D%5Btd width%3D%2265%22%5Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.eyrie.org%2F%7Eaerianne%2Ffoth.img%2Fgaia_ser_philip_saber.jpg%5B%2Ftd%5D%0D%0A%5Btd%5D%5Bfont color%3D%22%230000dd%22%5DPhilip J. Moyer%5B%2Ffont%5D%0D%0A%5Bfont color%3D%22%230000aa%22 size%3D-2%5DContributing Writer%2C Editor and Artist %28and Moderator%29 -- Eyrie Productions%2C Unlimited%5B%2Ffont%5D%0D%0A%5Bfont color%3D%22%230000aa%22 size%3D-2%5DCEO of MTS%2C High Poobah Of Artwork%2C and High Priest Of the Church Of Aerianne -- Magnetic Terrapin Studios%5B%2Ffont%5D%0D%0A%5Bfont color%3D%22%230044aa%22 size%3D-1%5D%5Bi%5D%22Insert Pithy Comment Here%22%5B%2Fi%5D%5B%2Ffont%5D%5B%2Ftd%5D%5Btd width%3D%2265%22%5Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.eyrie.org%2F%7Eaerianne%2Ffoth.img%2Fgaia_aeri_coat_sword.jpg%5B%2Ftd%5D%5B%2Ftr%5D%0D%0A%5Btr%5D%5Btd colspan%3D%223%22%5D%5Bhr size%3D1 noshade%5D%5B%2Ftd%5D%5B%2Ftr%5D%5B%2Ftable%5D 4|2|1|||1||RE%3A Mass Effect 1 %26 2 Steam Collection|Gryphon||22:18:48|02/20/2013|%3EAs opposed to the %0D%0A%3Eminerals scanning game in ME2%2C where the minerals are soley for your %0D%0A%3Eupgrades %28so you%27ll need a lot%29%2C each planet must be scanned by %0D%0A%3Eholding down the cursor and dragging the radar over the planet%2C and to %0D%0A%3Ethe best of my knowledge the locations on the planet are not %27set%27%2C %0D%0A%3Eit%27s just given percentages of how much you can find on the planet. %0D%0A%0D%0AI find the mining minigame in ME2 strangely hypnotic sometimes%2C particularly late at night. To the point where I will sometimes put aside the whole saving-the-galaxy thing and just go around robotically stripmining entire solar systems%2C and getting %5Bi%5Dactually annoyed%5B%2Fi%5D when I randomly stumble across a bonus mission that needs doing on some planet I%27m just trying to find palladium on.%0D%0A%0D%0A--G.%0D%0A%22In research projects%2C palladium is used to upgrade shotguns%2C medical equipment%2C and non-implantable Stark Industries arc reactors.%22%0D%0A-%3E%3C-%0D%0ABenjamin D. Hutchins%2C Co-Founder%2C Editor-in-Chief%2C %26 Forum Mod%0D%0AEyrie Productions%2C Unlimited http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eyrie-productions.com%2F%0D%0Azgryphon at that email service Google has%0D%0A%5Bi%5DCeterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam.%5B%2Fi%5D 2|1|0|||||RE%3A Mass Effect 1 %26 2 Steam Collection|Polychrome||21:48:37|02/20/2013|Talk to everybody. If you just stick to doing the main story stuff you%27re not getting your money%27s worth. All the little side conversations and stuff are part of what makes the series great.%0D%0A%0D%0APolychrome 3|1|0|||1||RE%3A Mass Effect 1 %26 2 Steam Collection|Gryphon||22:16:36|02/20/2013|I could%27ve sworn we%27d recently %5Bi%5Dhad%5B%2Fi%5D this conversation%2C %5Blink%3Awww.eyrie-productions.com%2FForum%2Fdcboard.cgi%3Faz%3Dread_count%26om%3D540%26forum%3DDCForumID12%26viewmode%3Dthreaded%7Cand indeed we have%5D%21 Not that I%27m shutting anything down here - anybody%27s got anything new to offer%2C please%2C by all means. Just%2C you know%2C there might also be something helpful over there.%0D%0A%0D%0A--G.%0D%0A-%3E%3C-%0D%0ABenjamin D. Hutchins%2C Co-Founder%2C Editor-in-Chief%2C %26 Forum Mod%0D%0AEyrie Productions%2C Unlimited http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eyrie-productions.com%2F%0D%0Azgryphon at that email service Google has%0D%0A%5Bi%5DCeterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam.%5B%2Fi%5D 5|1|0|||||RE%3A Mass Effect 1 %26 2 Steam Collection|BeardedFerret||01:48:13|02/21/2013|Don%27t get stressed out over which class you pick. Odds are this will be your first of several playthroughs.%0D%0A%0D%0AWhen you%27re given a mission to go to the place Corwin takes Utena after the school dance %28trying to avoid overt spoilers%29%2C do it. The payoff is pretty cool. 6|2|5|||1||RE%3A Mass Effect 1 %26 2 Steam Collection|Pasha||07:30:12|02/21/2013|Ok%2C I get the theory behind trying to avoid overt spoilers%2C because this thread is about a game that the OP has %28obviously%29 never played.%0D%0A%0D%0ABut%2C uhh..if you%27re going to make a reference that%27s coded%2C maybe making one that isn%27t obvious to the fandom of the forum you%27re making the post on isn%27t the best code ever%3F%0D%0A%0D%0A-- %0D%0A-Pasha%0D%0AWhat was that feeling again%3F%0D%0AOh yes.%0D%0A-Rage- 9|3|6|||1||RE%3A Mass Effect 1 %26 2 Steam Collection|Peter Eng||14:19:00|02/21/2013|%3EOk%2C I get the theory behind trying to avoid overt spoilers%2C because %0D%0A%3Ethis thread is about a game that the OP has %28obviously%29 never played. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3EBut%2C uhh..if you%27re going to make a reference that%27s coded%2C maybe %0D%0A%3Emaking one that isn%27t obvious to the fandom of the forum you%27re making %0D%0A%3Ethe post on isn%27t the best code ever%3F %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%0D%0AWell%2C if you can come up with an area of common experience to use as a code base%2C I%27m sure everybody would appreciate it%2C but I think the only thing people on this forum have in common is liking the stories. So%2C I don%27t think there were many options.%0D%0A%0D%0APeter Eng%0D%0A--%0D%0A%22If you get a chance to go where there%27s less pay%2C but better fellow workers...%22 10|4|9|||1||RE%3A Mass Effect 1 %26 2 Steam Collection|Pasha||22:49:07|02/21/2013|%3E%3EOk%2C I get the theory behind trying to avoid overt spoilers%2C because %0D%0A%3E%3Ethis thread is about a game that the OP has %28obviously%29 never played. %0D%0A%3E%3E%0D%0A%3E%3EBut%2C uhh..if you%27re going to make a reference that%27s coded%2C maybe %0D%0A%3E%3Emaking one that isn%27t obvious to the fandom of the forum you%27re making %0D%0A%3E%3Ethe post on isn%27t the best code ever%3F %0D%0A%3E%3E%0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3EWell%2C if you can come up with an area of common experience to use as a %0D%0A%3Ecode base%2C I%27m sure everybody would appreciate it%2C but I think the %0D%0A%3Eonly thing people on this forum have in common is liking the stories. %0D%0A%3ESo%2C I don%27t think there were many options. %0D%0A%0D%0AMy point is that%2C if you%27re trying to avoid%2C for spoiler reasons%2C saying %22Saturn%27s moon Titan%22%2C maybe saying %22That place where Corwin%27s castle is%22 isn%27t the most secure of codes.%0D%0A%0D%0A-- %0D%0A-Pasha%0D%0AWhat was that feeling again%3F%0D%0AOh yes.%0D%0A-Rage- 11|5|10|||||RE%3A Mass Effect 1 %26 2 Steam Collection|BeardedFerret||22:58:21|02/21/2013|%3E%3E%3EOk%2C I get the theory behind trying to avoid overt spoilers%2C because %0D%0A%3E%3E%3Ethis thread is about a game that the OP has %28obviously%29 never played. %0D%0A%3E%3E%3E%0D%0A%3E%3E%3EBut%2C uhh..if you%27re going to make a reference that%27s coded%2C maybe %0D%0A%3E%3E%3Emaking one that isn%27t obvious to the fandom of the forum you%27re making %0D%0A%3E%3E%3Ethe post on isn%27t the best code ever%3F %0D%0A%3E%3E%3E%0D%0A%3E%3E%0D%0A%3E%3EWell%2C if you can come up with an area of common experience to use as a %0D%0A%3E%3Ecode base%2C I%27m sure everybody would appreciate it%2C but I think the %0D%0A%3E%3Eonly thing people on this forum have in common is liking the stories. %0D%0A%3E%3ESo%2C I don%27t think there were many options. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3EMy point is that%2C if you%27re trying to avoid%2C for spoiler reasons%2C %0D%0A%3Esaying %22Saturn%27s moon Titan%22%2C maybe saying %22That place where Corwin%27s %0D%0A%3Ecastle is%22 isn%27t the most secure of codes. %0D%0A%0D%0AWrong moon%2C buddy.%0D%0A 13|6|11|||1||RE%3A Mass Effect 1 %26 2 Steam Collection|Pasha||23:42:55|02/21/2013|%3E%3EMy point is that%2C if you%27re trying to avoid%2C for spoiler reasons%2C %0D%0A%3E%3Esaying %22Saturn%27s moon Titan%22%2C maybe saying %22That place where Corwin%27s %0D%0A%3E%3Ecastle is%22 isn%27t the most secure of codes. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3EWrong moon%2C buddy. %0D%0A%0D%0AFine. Instead of saying %22When you get a chance to go to Luna%2C totally take it%2C the mission there is awesome%22%2C saying %22When you get a chance to go to the place where Corwin took Utena after the Spring Formal %28not the prom. He took Buttercup to the prom%2C remember%3F%29%22 yadda yadda. I was using a counter example.%0D%0A%0D%0A-- %0D%0A-Pasha%0D%0AWhat was that feeling again%3F%0D%0AOh yes.%0D%0A-Rage- 19|7|13|||||RE%3A Mass Effect 1 %26 2 Steam Collection|CdrMike||16:45:03|02/26/2013|%3EFine. Instead of saying %22When you get a chance to go to Luna%2C totally %0D%0A%3Etake it%2C the mission there is awesome%22%2C saying %22When you get a chance %0D%0A%3Eto go to the place where Corwin took Utena after the Spring Formal %0D%0A%3E%28not the prom. He took Buttercup to the prom%2C remember%3F%29%22 yadda %0D%0A%3Eyadda. I was using a counter example. %0D%0A%0D%0ALook at it this way%2C it makes more sense than %22Darmak and Jalad at Tanagra.%22%0D%0A 20|8|19|||1||RE%3A Mass Effect 1 %26 2 Steam Collection|laudre||17:05:27|02/26/2013|%3ELook at it this way%2C it makes more sense than %22Darmak and Jalad at %0D%0A%3ETanagra.%22 %0D%0A%0D%0Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FTSrJ756.png%0D%0A%0D%0A%22Mathematics brought rigor to economics. Unfortunately%2C it also brought mortis.%22%0D%0A - Kenneth Boulding 21|9|20|||||RE%3A Mass Effect 1 %26 2 Steam Collection|Star Ranger4||09:39:29|02/28/2013|Heh. that the artist used Sir Patrick just adds that much more to it. 7|1|0|||1||RE%3A Mass Effect 1 %26 2 Steam Collection|laudre||09:35:33|02/21/2013|%5Bb%5DME1%5B%2Fb%5D%3A Go with a Soldier%2C Adept%2C or Vanguard for your first playthrough. The other three %28Infiltrator%2C Engineer%2C Sentinel%29 require a bit more experience with the game to not be frustrating.%0D%0A%0D%0AThe pistol is the best weapon type in the game%2C especially with Marksman%2C for Shepard. Garrus and Ashley do well with assault rifles if you buy up the relevant skills%2C and Wrex does well with shotguns. Liara%2C Tali%2C and Kaidan want pistols. Be sure to use the pause menu %28default spacebar on PC version%29 to optimize power use and make sure they%27ve got the right weapon equipped.%0D%0A%0D%0AShepard%27s skill points should first go into Charm %28if you%27re going with primarily Paragon options%2C which will show up in upper-left or upper-right conversation options%29 or Intimidate %28Renegade%2C lower-left or lower-right%29. Your Paragon and Renegade scores determine the highest available Charm and Intimidate ranks%2C respectively%2C and as you reach certain break points on each bar%2C you%27ll also get free points in the skill %28one each at 10%25%2C 25%25%2C 50%25%2C and 75%25%29%2C and you get a free point in Charm and in Intimidate when you become a Spectre. Because certain conversation options require a minimum Charm or Intimidate%2C investing some points in at least one skill is necessary. Charm-driven conversation options always appear on the upper left%2C and will be blue if your Charm skill is high enough%2C and greyed out and unselectable if it%27s not%3B similarly%2C Intimidate-driven options are on the lower-left%2C and red if your Intimidate skill is high enough%2C and gray and unselectable if not. Note that taking those options will increase the relevant morality score.%0D%0A%0D%0AAlso%2C in relation to the above%3F There%27s one point in the game %28Virmire%29 where not having sufficient Charm or Intimidate can and will permanently cost you a squad member. You only need one of the two%2C mind%2C and it%27s best to focus on one or the other morality%2C rather than switching back and forth between the two or going with middle options that don%27t grant morality points.%0D%0A%0D%0AThe next most important skill is your class skill. It%27ll simply be labeled as your class%2C up until you unlock the advanced class options%2C at which point you%27ll pick one of two %28depending on your base class%29. All of the options enhance all of your abilities in some way or make you more durable in general%2C thus they%27ve got a good rate of return regardless of whatever else you%27re going with. Similarly%2C it%27s a good idea to buy up your squadmates%27 class powers.%0D%0A%0D%0AFinally%2C pick up a weapon skill %28pistols are generally the preferred weapon%2C as above%29%2C and also First Aid%2C if you%27ve got access to it. Defensive skills are also handy in case cover is scarce.%0D%0A%0D%0AOh%2C one other thing%3A unless you change a variable in a text configuration file%2C it%27s mathematically impossible to reach level 60 in a single playthrough. It takes at least one%2C possibly two New Game%2B playthroughs to hit the level cap.%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bb%5DME2%3A%5B%2Fb%5D The classes are far more balanced this time around%2C talents are far simpler %28but require careful budgeting to avoid with leftover points you can%27t spend%2C because of the way point costs escalate%29%2C and the classes are a lot more distinct from each other. Not only that%2C but when importing your save from ME1%2C you can select a new class altogether -- you can go from a Soldier in ME1 to an Adept in ME2 if you%27re so inclined. Weapon and armor systems are vastly more streamlined%2C to the point that you effectively no longer have an inventory system in ME2. Also%2C you can no longer equip every type of weapon -- the weapons you can equip and use are class-based%2C and there%27s a definite preference for some classes that are weapon rather than biotic%2Ftech power-oriented %28Soldiers make excellent use of assault rifles%2C Infiltrators are optimized for sniper rifles%2C Vanguards %5Bi%5Dlove%5B%2Fi%5D shotguns%29.%0D%0A%0D%0AThere%27s no longer distinct Charm and Intimidate skills%3B those conversation options are instead unlocked directly by your Paragon and Renegade scores. Your class power is %5Bi%5Dabsolutely%5B%2Fi%5D the first priority for your talent points%2C because it not only improves all of your abilities across the board%2C capping it out %284 ranks%2C costing 10 points%29 gives you a permanent multiplicative boost to your Paragon and Renegade scores. Your squadmates should similarly have their class abilities maxed out before anything else%2C and it%27s generally best %28where possible%29 to pick the version of the top rank that provides squad benefits.%0D%0A%0D%0ALastly%2C if you want the best ending in ME2%2C make sure you%27ve done all the side missions -- and I do mean %5Bi%5Dall%5B%2Fi%5D of them -- before you go for the IFF mission. The dialogue for when it unlocks strongly suggests this%2C but it should be understood that %5Bi%5Dthis is completely correct%5B%2Fi%5D. After the IFF mission%2C you%27ll be able to do one side mission before the final story mission unlocks%2C and%2C once that happens%2C everything you do that delays starting the final story mission makes the ending worse.%0D%0A%0D%0AOh%2C tangential to the above%3A as far as the DLC content goes%2C everything but %5Bi%5DLair of the Shadow Broker%5B%2Fi%5D and %5Bi%5DThe Arrival%5B%2Fi%5D are intended to happen prior to the suicide mission. They flow best%2C in a narrative sense%2C if you do them before the IFF mission %28where there is a narrative -- %5Bi%5DProject Firewalker%5B%2Fi%5D doesn%27t have much of one%2C but %5Bi%5DOverlord%5B%2Fi%5D does %28incidentally%2C %5Bi%5DOverlord%5B%2Fi%5D also has one of my favorite Paragon interrupts%29%29. I recommend doing %5Bi%5DLair of the Shadow Broker%5B%2Fi%5D after you finish the suicide mission%2C and %5Bi%5DThe Arrival%5B%2Fi%5D after that -- the two of them are the bridge between ME2 and ME3.%0D%0A%0D%0A%22Mathematics brought rigor to economics. Unfortunately%2C it also brought mortis.%22%0D%0A - Kenneth Boulding 14|2|7|||||RE%3A Mass Effect 1 %26 2 Steam Collection|SmkViper||11:13:21|02/22/2013|%3EAfter the IFF mission%2C you%27ll be able to do one side %0D%0A%3Emission before the final story mission unlocks%2C and%2C once that %0D%0A%3Ehappens%2C everything you do that delays starting the final story %0D%0A%3Emission makes the ending worse. %0D%0A%0D%0AI personally found this bit to be the worst part of an otherwise excellent game. During the whole story you can take as long as you want even though NPCs are yelling at you that things are important and must be done now%2C just like every other RPG in existence%2C but then they pull the rug out from under you in that %5Bi%5Done%5B%2Fi%5D instance with no warning...%0D%0A%0D%0ASorry%2C just really pissed me off when I got the ending I did after doing all the side quests. 15|3|14|||1||RE%3A Mass Effect 1 %26 2 Steam Collection|Gryphon||11:19:33|02/22/2013|%3EI personally found this bit to be the worst part of an otherwise %0D%0A%3Eexcellent game. During the whole story you can take as long as you %0D%0A%3Ewant even though NPCs are yelling at you that things are important and %0D%0A%3Emust be done now%2C just like every other RPG in existence%2C but then %0D%0A%3Ethey pull the rug out from under you in that %5Bi%5Done%5B%2Fi%5D instance with %0D%0A%3Eno warning... %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3ESorry%2C just really pissed me off when I got the ending I did after %0D%0A%3Edoing all the side quests. %0D%0A%0D%0AYes. I%27ve remarked on that same problem a couple of times over the years%2C mostly in the course of trying to figure out how to warn new players not to make that mistake without actually explaining what it is. %3A%29%0D%0A%0D%0AIt%27s like BioWare spent the previous many years - say from %5Bi%5DNeverwinter Nights%5B%2Fi%5D onward - training its player base to think the order these things get done in isn%27t critical as long as they all get done before the Obvious Plot Advancement Mission%2C and then%2C oh hey%2C not this time. This time there%27s always room for Jell-O.%0D%0A%0D%0A%28Doubly puzzling because at a %5Bi%5Dprevious%5B%2Fi%5D%2C very similar decision point%2C %22no%2C we have to keep working on this other stuff%22 is the %5Bi%5Dcorrect%5B%2Fi%5D answer.%29%0D%0A%0D%0A--G.%0D%0A-%3E%3C-%0D%0ABenjamin D. Hutchins%2C Co-Founder%2C Editor-in-Chief%2C %26 Forum Mod%0D%0AEyrie Productions%2C Unlimited http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eyrie-productions.com%2F%0D%0Azgryphon at that email service Google has%0D%0A%5Bi%5DCeterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam.%5B%2Fi%5D 16|4|15|||1||RE%3A Mass Effect 1 %26 2 Steam Collection|laudre||11:58:36|02/22/2013|%3EYes. I%27ve remarked on that same problem a couple of times over the %0D%0A%3Eyears%2C mostly in the course of trying to figure out how to warn new %0D%0A%3Eplayers not to make that mistake without actually explaining what it %0D%0A%3Eis. %3A%29 %0D%0A%0D%0AIndeed. That%27s why I describe it as the %22IFF mission%2C%22 which is specific enough to provide the needed guidance without revealing too much %28assuming the OP hasn%27t gone and spoiled themselves silly at the ME wiki%29.%0D%0A%0D%0AAnd%2C really%2C it%27s not %5Bi%5Djust%5B%2Fi%5D BioWare that%27s done this%3B Japanese and Western RPGs alike almost always treat time as only passing when you complete certain missions%2C and text-communicated urgency has no story impact.%0D%0A%0D%0AOh%2C this reminds me something similar was implemented in ME3. There are a handful of missions that%2C if not completed within a certain number of other mission completions after they become available%2C or if not completed before a particular main story mission%2C will be treated as failed. Some of them are minor side missions that are picked up through the ambient conversation mechanic and are completed by finding a plot object on a side mission or whatnot%2C but one in particular you %5Bi%5Dreally%5B%2Fi%5D want to do pretty much when it unlocks.%0D%0A%0D%0ASo%2C keep an eye out for that if%2Fwhen you do get to ME3.%0D%0A%0D%0A%22Mathematics brought rigor to economics. Unfortunately%2C it also brought mortis.%22%0D%0A - Kenneth Boulding 8|1|0|||||RE%3A Mass Effect 1 %26 2 Steam Collection|Bushido||14:18:30|02/21/2013|On a related note%2C they just announced the final single and multi-player DLC%27s for Mass Effect 3 http%3A%2F%2Fblog.bioware.com%2F2013%2F02%2F21%2Fmass-effect-3-citadel-reckoning-dlc-announced%2F The multiplayer DLC comes out next tuesday%2C the single player will be out March 5%2C 1 day shy of the year anniversary of the game release. 12|2|8|||||RE%3A Mass Effect 1 %26 2 Steam Collection|BeardedFerret||23:05:30|02/21/2013|Huh. That single player DLC looks really cool. Thanks for the tip%21 17|1|0|||1||RE%3A Mass Effect 1 %26 2 Steam Collection|twipper||16:02:53|02/22/2013|Just wanted to throw out another thanks for everyone%27s tips. %0D%0A%0D%0AI%27m not surprised I%27m enjoying ME. For reference sake%2C I just left the Citadel for the first time. I loved KOTOR%2C and it%27s game-play mechanics. The mechanics here are similar enough that the learning curve hasn%27t been too bad and the play style is working fine for me. I actually love having all those long conversations that so many people gripe about. The level of universe detailing already shown is seriously impressive.%0D%0A%0D%0AWhat does surprise me is how good the game looks. Skyrim was the first 3d third person game I%27d played outside of City of Heroes since I played KOTOR. And while the shear gorgeousness of walking around Skyrim may be lacking%2C the character animations and interactions are still excellently done. Watching the characters move around%2C gesture%2C show their emotional states in those conversation set pieces is seriously impressive to me.%0D%0A%0D%0AWhich makes me feel truly bad that I want to find whomever did the elevator muzak in the Citadel and wring their necks. Standing in those elevators%2C having to listen to that stuff%2C it makes me relive those family trips to the Holiday Inn back in the %2780%27s...%0D%0A%0D%0ABrian 18|2|17|||1||RE%3A Mass Effect 1 %26 2 Steam Collection|pjmoyer||16:26:30|02/22/2013|%3EWhich makes me feel truly bad that I want to find whomever did the %0D%0A%3Eelevator muzak in the Citadel and wring their necks. Standing in %0D%0A%3Ethose elevators%2C having to listen to that stuff%2C it makes me relive %0D%0A%3Ethose family trips to the Holiday Inn back in the %2780%27s... %0D%0A%0D%0ABut hey%2C at least you get the fun squad member conversations to make up for it%21 %28YMMV%29. In ME2 and ME3%2C transitions like that just got replaced with loading screens. %3A%2F%0D%0A%0D%0A--- Philip%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Btable%5D%5Btr%5D%5Btd colspan%3D%223%22%5D%5Bhr size%3D2 noshade%5D%5B%2Ftd%5D%5B%2Ftr%5D%0D%0A%5Btr%5D%5Btd width%3D%2265%22%5Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.eyrie.org%2F%7Eaerianne%2Ffoth.img%2Fgaia_ser_philip_saber.jpg%5B%2Ftd%5D%0D%0A%5Btd%5D%5Bfont color%3D%22%230000dd%22%5DPhilip J. Moyer%5B%2Ffont%5D%0D%0A%5Bfont color%3D%22%230000aa%22 size%3D-2%5DContributing Writer%2C Editor and Artist %28and Moderator%29 -- Eyrie Productions%2C Unlimited%5B%2Ffont%5D%0D%0A%5Bfont color%3D%22%230000aa%22 size%3D-2%5DCEO of MTS%2C High Poobah Of Artwork%2C and High Priest Of the Church Of Aerianne -- Magnetic Terrapin Studios%5B%2Ffont%5D%0D%0A%5Bfont color%3D%22%230044aa%22 size%3D-1%5D%5Bi%5D%22Insert Pithy Comment Here%22%5B%2Fi%5D%5B%2Ffont%5D%5B%2Ftd%5D%5Btd width%3D%2265%22%5Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.eyrie.org%2F%7Eaerianne%2Ffoth.img%2Fgaia_aeri_coat_sword.jpg%5B%2Ftd%5D%5B%2Ftr%5D%0D%0A%5Btr%5D%5Btd colspan%3D%223%22%5D%5Bhr size%3D1 noshade%5D%5B%2Ftd%5D%5B%2Ftr%5D%5B%2Ftable%5D 22|3|18|||1||RE%3A Mass Effect 1 %26 2 Steam Collection|Verbena||22:39:58|02/28/2013|%3E%3EWhich makes me feel truly bad that I want to find whomever did the %0D%0A%3E%3Eelevator muzak in the Citadel and wring their necks. Standing in %0D%0A%3E%3Ethose elevators%2C having to listen to that stuff%2C it makes me relive %0D%0A%3E%3Ethose family trips to the Holiday Inn back in the %2780%27s... %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3EBut hey%2C at least you get the fun squad member conversations to make %0D%0A%3Eup for it%21 %28YMMV%29. In ME2 and ME3%2C transitions like that just got %0D%0A%3Ereplaced with loading screens. %3A%2F %0D%0A%0D%0AWell%2C yes%2C but the actual loading time is a good deal shorter. Overall programming efficiency is better in the two subsequent games%2C and the graphics get better each time as well. You%27ll miss Omnigel%2C though. %28They even riff on it during a battle in Lair of the Shadow Broker%2C which was funny.%29 The elevator sequences are vaguely amusing the first two times and become very annoying afterwards.%0D%0A%0D%0A--------%0D%0A%0D%0Athis world created by the %0D%0Ahands of the gods%0D%0Aeverything is false%0D%0Aeverything is a LIE%0D%0Athe final days have come%0D%0Anow%0D%0Alet everything be destroyed%0D%0A%0D%0A--mu 23|4|22|||1||RE%3A Mass Effect 1 %26 2 Steam Collection|twipper||15:24:49|03/16/2013|%3EWell%2C yes%2C but the actual loading time is a good deal shorter. Overall %0D%0A%3Eprogramming efficiency is better in the two subsequent games%2C and the %0D%0A%3Egraphics get better each time as well. %0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0AWell%2C the problem I%27m having must be the exception then. Twice now%2C either Mass Effect or ME2 has corrupted my Steam to the point of Blue Screen of Death. The first time%2C I chalked it up to an auto-pushed update to Windows 7. %0D%0A%0D%0AI uninstalled%2Freinstalled everything and finished my as close to complete Paragon play-through as I have the patience for with no additional problems. Moved on to ME2 yesterday afternoon and early last evening it Blue-screened again%2C and again corrupted Steam. Will try ye old complete reinstall Wednesday skipping the no-charge DLC%27s included with my purchase.%0D%0A%0D%0AAh%2C the challenges of computerized past-times.%0D%0A%0D%0ABrian