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0|0|0|||1||The Deus Ex Series|Gryphon||13:04:04|05/04/2015|OK%2C so%2C the mention of it in the jokey meta-poll thread reminds me that I%27ve been meaning to ask someone about this%2C and%2C well%2C might as well be you guys.%0D%0A%0D%0AThe original %5Bi%5DDeus Ex%5B%2Fi%5D was a great game.  The second one%2C %5Bi%5DDeus Ex%3A Invisible War%5B%2Fi%5D%2C was... not.  But they both shared an essential design feature%2C and it%27s made me extremely reluctant to invest a bunch of time and energy in the third one%2C %5Bi%5DDeus Ex%3A Human Revolution%5B%2Fi%5D.  And that essential feature is%3A %5Bi%5DAll of the endings suck.%5B%2Fi%5D%0D%0A%0D%0AIt%27s a bit ironic%2C when you consider how much press %5Bi%5DDeus Ex%5B%2Fi%5D got back in the day for its %22groundbreaking multithreaded narrative%22%2C that all of those revolutionary multiple story threads led to endings that made you feel like a chump for caring about the choices you were making in the game all along.  And then %5Bi%5DInvisible War%5B%2Fi%5D came along and did the %5Bi%5Dsame goddamned thing%5B%2Fi%5D%2C which was even worse%2C since you%27d been sitting there enduring the crappy environmental design%2C the lame weapons%2C and the pre-Cambrian load times thinking%2C %5Bi%5DWell%2C at least the story%27s engaging.%5B%2Fi%5D  When I finally realized%2C after playing through the major decision points four or five times and exhausting all the available endings only to find that they were all horrible%2C that they%27d done it to me %5Bi%5Dagain%5B%2Fi%5D%2C I nearly threw my mouse through a window.%0D%0A%0D%0ASo I%27ve been intrigued by the art design of %5Bi%5DHuman Revolution%5B%2Fi%5D%2C and I must have bought it on one of those periodic insane-unannounced Steam sales or something%2C because it%27s been sitting in my library for quite a while now and I haven%27t ever actually been arsed to play it.  I don%27t feel like investing all the time and energy it takes to play through a game of that kind again%2C only to discover that my choice of endings once again boils down to %22destroy all humanity%2C%22 %22revert civilization to barbarism%2C%22 or %22destroy all humanity in a different way.%22%0D%0A%0D%0AHere%27s the hard part.  If anyone out there has played %5Bi%5DHuman Revolution%5B%2Fi%5D%2C will you please tell me - %5Bi%5Dwithout spoiling any details%5B%2Fi%5D - whether this is once more the case%3F  Is there an ending - even %5Bi%5Done%5B%2Fi%5D will do - that doesn%27t roundly mock the player for bothering to get far enough to see it%3F  Because there wasn%27t in either of the first two games and I%27m not doin%27 that again.%0D%0A%0D%0AI realize%2C of course%2C that I%27m setting myself up for a long con here if anyone cares to pull it.  If there isn%27t%2C and you tell me there is%2C I have no way of knowing you%27re lying until I%27ve wasted all the time.  To quote Gordon Freeman%2C don%27t fuck me on this.%0D%0A%0D%0A--G.%0D%0A-%3E%3C-%0D%0ABenjamin D. Hutchins%2C Co-Founder%2C Editor-in-Chief%2C %26 Forum Mod%0D%0AEyrie Productions%2C Unlimited  http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eyrie-productions.com%2F%0D%0Azgryphon at that email service Google has%0D%0A%5Bi%5DCeterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam.%5B%2Fi%5D
1|1|0|||||RE%3A The Deus Ex Series|CdrMike||19:23:55|05/04/2015|I%27d have to say yeah%2C the endings of DE%3AHR basically follow the same path of being disappointing and not really amounting to more than variations in the ending narration.  Eidos%27 decision to make it a prequel meant that there was no way to give a satisfying ending%2C but instead had to settle for four endings that are vague enough that it%27s possible for any one of them to lead to the world that %5Bi%5DDeus Ex%5B%2Fi%5D exists in years later.%0D%0A%0D%0AThat said%2C I enjoyed the game and the ending aside%2C it is worth a play.  It%27s sort of that ME3 dilemma%3A The game%27s great...right up until the last 10 minutes.
2|2|1|||1||RE%3A The Deus Ex Series|Verbena||20:58:28|05/04/2015|I have to agree%2C the multiple endings all bite in various ways.%0D%0A%0D%0AThat said%3F I have played and beaten this game numerous times%2C the story is fantastic apart from the endings themselves%2C and the blend of stealth%2Fcombat%2Fhacker%2Fetc. options is refreshing. There%27s always multiple ways to accomplish an objective %28even the boss battles%2C if you get the Director%27s Cut%29 and Jensen always feels badass without being overpowered.%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A--------%0D%0A%0D%0Athis world created by the %0D%0Ahands of the gods%0D%0Aeverything is false%0D%0Aeverything is a LIE%0D%0Athe final days have come%0D%0Anow%0D%0Alet everything be destroyed%0D%0A%0D%0A--mu
3|1|0|||||RE%3A The Deus Ex Series|Bakuryu_Hitsuri||00:35:13|05/05/2015|Having beaten it a couple of times.. It%27s great right until the end. It literally has the same ending type as Mass Effect 3 %28I think ME3 took the idea from DE%3AHR%2C unless ME3 came out first then it%27s the other way around.%29%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0AIgnoring the ending %22choice%22 %28which is %2Apush button you feel is least%2For more objectionable to your current mood%29 the game as a whole is quite good%2C the story is engaging and you feel like you%27re making a difference helping people%28or hurting them%2C but they do remember it later%29.%0D%0A%0D%0AIt%27s worth playing%2C just... stop before pushing the final button and make up your own ending%2C it%27s just better that way.
4|1|0|||1||RE%3A The Deus Ex Series|Matrix Dragon||06:19:03|05/05/2015|The ending has a somewhat disappointing last level%2C and then you decide from one of three buttons that makes a different cinematic. That%27s about it.%0D%0A%0D%0AAnd apparently%2C the sequel they%27ve just announced makes up a different ending for the game entirely instead%2C which I%27m kind of mixed about. On the one hand%2C those three endings were all just to try and set up the original game anyway%2C and they were all kinda bad%2C a requirement to set up Deus Ex%27s original crapsack world. On the other%2C I%27d still at least want to play it.%0D%0A%0D%0AMatrix Dragon%2C J. Random Nutter
5|1|0|||||RE%3A The Deus Ex Series|Bushido||11:18:03|05/05/2015|Given that they%27re working on a direct sequel to Human Revolution that takes place 2 years later%2C you can pretty much just ignore the %22and your choices eventually led to this%22 part of the endings.
6|1|0|||1||RE%3A The Deus Ex Series|MoonEyes||18:57:41|05/05/2015|[updated:LAST EDITED ON May-05-15 AT 07:02 PM (EDT)]On the one hand%2C as noted%2C the game suffers hideously from %27Mass Effect 3 syndrome%27%2C or perhaps ME3 suffers from %27Deus Ex syndrome%27 as it came first.%0D%0AAnyway.%0D%0AIt%27s GREAT%2C and I do mean GREAT...up to the last 10 minutes%2C and then they squander it HEARTBREAKINGLY%2C in my opinion. Which made me have to by a new mouse%2C somewhat like you%2C as I threw it against a wall%2C rather than the window. Yes%2C literally.%0D%0ASeems as if the people that make these games have something in their genetic make-up that forces them to include multiple-choice scenes about the bleakness of being%2C existentialism and mans inhumanity to man%2C bollocks%2C rot and bloody nonsense...%0D%0A%0D%0AOn the other hand%2C Deus Ex Mankind Divided is on the way%2C revealed a 3-4 weeks ago%2C and features the same main character%2C the game set two years after the Human Revolution%2C which means that those endings%2C presumably%2C can be safely ignored. And HR IS a spectacularly fun and interesting game%2C up until...%0D%0A%0D%0ANote also that HR is set much earlier in the game world%2C where augmentation is very much in its infancy%2C and so the slick nanotech of the first games haven%27t appeared yet%2C instead you%27ll see electro-mechanical stuff%2C much more %27shadowrun%27.%0D%0A%0D%0AOh%2C and if you DO play it%2C there is a post-credits scene that is worth watching. Popular%2C nowadays%2C those.%0D%0A...%21%0D%0AGott%27s Leetle Feesh in Trousers%21
7|2|6|||1||RE%3A The Deus Ex Series|Verbena||21:35:50|05/05/2015|I do agree there was a couple silly design choices in the last level%2C and the final battle was a bit of a cakewalk. %28And a complete mudhole stomp if you happened to bring a laser%21%29 But even I have to admit there%27s some pathos in there when it sinks in what Hyron really is. It%27s not a tenth as bad as the last ten minutes of ME3.%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A--------%0D%0A%0D%0Athis world created by the %0D%0Ahands of the gods%0D%0Aeverything is false%0D%0Aeverything is a LIE%0D%0Athe final days have come%0D%0Anow%0D%0Alet everything be destroyed%0D%0A%0D%0A--mu