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"A thing I've just learned:"
 
   There is a medical organization in the real world called "Phoenix House". Their line appears to be what used to be called drug and alcohol rehab. Apparently someone out there thinks that by naming a swanky hotel with booze on the room service menu after it, I was making some kind of cruel and derisive statement.

Hmm. Well, um, for the record, I wasn't. If I knew about the organization before, well, right now, it was long enough ago that it had slipped my mind entirely.

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  Subject     Author     Message Date     ID  
  RE: A thing I've just learned: Mercutio Sep-14-13 1
     RE: A thing I've just learned: Gryphonadmin Sep-14-13 3
         RE: A thing I've just learned: The Traitor Sep-14-13 4
  RE: A thing I've just learned: Senji Sep-14-13 2
  RE: A thing I've just learned: BZArcher Sep-14-13 5
     RE: A thing I've just learned: Gryphonadmin Sep-14-13 6
  RE: A thing I've just learned: mdg1 Sep-14-13 7

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Mercutio
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1. "RE: A thing I've just learned:"
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   Do people... NOT call it drug and alcohol rehabilitation anymore? Is there a different term now?

Also, I think you're in the clear on this one. If the Phoenix House had been, say, some sort of opium den, then it would be like "Yeaaahhhhh... maybe go back and change that." But, I mean, Phoenix imagery and use is pretty common, so...

(Having said that, 'Phoenix House' -would- have been a good name for whatever the Diqiu equivalent of the House of the Rising Sun is.)

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Gryphonadmin
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3. "RE: A thing I've just learned:"
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   LAST EDITED ON Sep-14-13 AT 07:44 PM (EDT)
 
>Do people... NOT call it drug and alcohol rehabilitation anymore? Is
>there a different term now?

I believe the going jargon at the moment is "substance abuse and dependency treatment".

Anyway, I think it was the specific use of "House" that caused the issue. I suppose it probably does look deliberate from a certain point of view, though in the event, I was thinking of the now-obsolescent practice of naming grand hotels the Something House (Parker House, Porter House, et al.).

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The Traitor
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4. "RE: A thing I've just learned:"
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   Also, if you had made it just called The Phoenix, I would probably have made a reference to Peter Kay and then you would have been momentarily confused, and thereafter apathetic.

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Senji
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2. "RE: A thing I've just learned:"
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   The Bard's immortal words cut both ways, something it's wise to remember before criticizing :-)

"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, than are dreamt of in your philosophy"


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BZArcher
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5. "RE: A thing I've just learned:"
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   In all honesty, I WORK with the Phoenix House Foundation occasionally, and didn't even make the connection. I think that it's a little...touchy...to accuse you of that.

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Gryphonadmin
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6. "RE: A thing I've just learned:"
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   >In all honesty, I WORK with the Phoenix House Foundation occasionally,
>and didn't even make the connection. I think that it's a
>little...touchy...to accuse you of that.

I don't believe it's an official communication (nor meant to seem like one). Just someone going "hey man, dick move."

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mdg1
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7. "RE: A thing I've just learned:"
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   It's also the name of a REAL hotel in London, several Chinese restaurants, and a "punk house" in Olympia, WA.

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