32||0|3943|0| 0|0|0|||1||Le Droit du Dragon|Terminus Est||02:44:04|08/18/2013|[updated:LAST EDITED ON Aug-18-13 AT 03:12 AM (EDT)]I continue to be impressed with the adaptability of UF to other works of fiction. I%27ll spare everyone the gushing and just put it all into one %28completely undignified but entirely accurate%29 monosyllable%3A %5Bi%5DSqueeeee%21%21%21%5B%2Fi%5D%0D%0A%0D%0A...And since I know the management frowns upon people making that the entirety of a post%2C I have to wonder about the implications of mixed canons Hyruule represents. Do they have Dark Water or the Thirteen Treasures%3F Is there a recurring hero%2Fprincess%2Fvillain cycle%3F And does any of that bear %5Bi%5Dany relevance at all%5B%2Fi%5D to the overall plot%3F %28Okay%2C so I know the answer to that last is a general no%2C I%27m just curious as to the depth of thought involved in this particular bit of setting.%29%0D%0A%0D%0A...and since I%27ve been wondering since I noticed the PoDW references%2C %5Bi%5Ddo they have minga melons%3F%5B%2Fi%5D %28M%27nga%3F Min%27ga%3F Hellufino how you%27d localize it...%29 1|1|0|||1||RE%3A Le Droit du Dragon|JeanneHedge||07:03:03|08/18/2013|%3EI have to wonder about the implications of mixed %0D%0A%3Ecanons Hyruule represents. Do they have Dark Water or the Thirteen %0D%0A%3ETreasures%3F Is there a recurring hero%2Fprincess%2Fvillain cycle%3F And %0D%0A%3Edoes any of that bear %5Bi%5Dany relevance at all%5B%2Fi%5D to the overall plot%3F %0D%0A%3E %28Okay%2C so I know the answer to that last is a general no%2C I%27m just %0D%0A%3Ecurious as to the depth of thought involved in this particular bit of %0D%0A%3Esetting.%29 %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3E...and since I%27ve been wondering since I noticed the PoDW references%2C %0D%0A%3E%5Bi%5Ddo they have minga melons%3F%5B%2Fi%5D %28M%27nga%3F Min%27ga%3F Hellufino how %0D%0A%3Eyou%27d localize it...%29 %0D%0A%0D%0AYou must have really liked that series%2C seeing that it%27s 22 years old and only 21 episodes were made %28had to Wiki%29. All I really remember about %5Bi%5DThe Pirates of Dark Water%5B%2Fi%5D is that the female lead was voiced by Jodi Benson%2C who did Ariel in Disney%27s %5Bi%5DThe Little Mermaid%5B%2Fi%5D.%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0AJeanne%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Btable border%3D%220%22 cellspacing%3D%220%22 cellpadding%3D%220%22 width%3D%2280%25%22%5D%5Btr%5D%5Btd colspan%3D%222%22%5D%5Bhr size%3D%221%22 noshade%5D%5B%2Ftd%5D%5Btr%5D%5Btd align%3D%22center%22 width%3D%2210%25%22%5Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.jhedge.com%2Fmisc%2Foldowl.jpg%5B%2Ftd%5D%5Btd%5D%5Bfont size%3D2%5D%5Bb%5DJeanne Hedge%5B%2Fb%5D%0D%0A%5Blink%3Awww.jhedge.com%7Chttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.jhedge.com%5D%5B%2Ffont%5D%5B%2Ftd%5D%5B%2Ftr%5D%5Btr%5D%5Btd colspan%3D%222%22%5D%5Bi%5D%5Bfont size%3D1%5D%22Never give up%2C never surrender%21%22%5B%2Ffont%5D%0D%0A%5B%2Fi%5D%5B%2Ftd%5D%5B%2Ftr%5D%5Btr%5D%5Btd colspan%3D%222%22%5D%5Bhr size%3D%221%22 noshade%5D%5B%2Ftd%5D%5B%2Ftr%5D%5B%2Ftable%5D 2|2|1|||1||RE%3A Le Droit du Dragon|Nathan||12:46:49|08/18/2013|%3EYou must have really liked that series%2C seeing that it%27s 22 years old %0D%0A%3Eand only 21 episodes were made %28had to Wiki%29. All I really remember %0D%0A%3Eabout %5Bi%5DThe Pirates of Dark Water%5B%2Fi%5D is that the female lead was %0D%0A%3Evoiced by Jodi Benson%2C who did Ariel in Disney%27s %5Bi%5DThe Little %0D%0A%3EMermaid%5B%2Fi%5D. %0D%0A%0D%0AThe memories of the seven-year-old I was inform me that the show was Batman The Animated Series grade excellent%2C so it%27s not surprising that people should remember it.%0D%0A%0D%0A-----%0D%0A%0D%0A%22V%2C did you do something foolish%3F%22%0D%0A%0D%0A%22Yes%2C and it was %5Bi%5Dglorious%5B%2Fi%5D.%22 5|3|2|||1||RE%3A Le Droit du Dragon|Terminus Est||14:43:23|08/18/2013|[updated:LAST EDITED ON Aug-18-13 AT 02:46 PM (EDT)]The seven year old I was agrees wholeheartedly.%0D%0A%0D%0A...actually%2C scratch that%2C I was around nine or ten when it started airing. 3|2|1|||1||RE%3A Le Droit du Dragon|Mercutio||13:15:59|08/18/2013|%0D%0A%3EYou must have really liked that series%2C seeing that it%27s 22 years old %0D%0A%3Eand only 21 episodes were made %28had to Wiki%29%0D%0A%0D%0APirates of Dark Water still has a cult following. It%27s not a large one%2C as these things go%3B in terms of %2290s cartoons that were cancelled before their times%22 the cult following of Gargoyles dwarfs it. But PoDW was pretty influential in certain circles despite not being very well known.%0D%0A%0D%0AIt%27s a bit like the completely apocryphal and inaccurate Brian Eno quote%3A %22The Velvet Underground%27s first album only sold a few thousand copies%2C but everyone who bought one formed a band.%22%0D%0A%0D%0A-Merc%0D%0AKeep Rat 4|2|1|||1||RE%3A Le Droit du Dragon|Terminus Est||14:40:35|08/18/2013|I did indeed %27really like it%27%3B being that I had no internet back then nor any real way to look into things%2C I had no idea it actually -had- been cancelled%2C and wondered for the longest time how things panned out for Wren and his crew.%0D%0A%0D%0AGiven that I%27m also a huge Zelda nerd%2C well... let%27s just say Umi%27s homeworld fascinates me and leave it at that%2C %27kay%3F 7|3|4|||1||RE%3A Le Droit du Dragon|JeanneHedge||19:21:13|08/18/2013|%3EI did indeed %27really like it%27%3B being that I had no internet back then %0D%0A%3Enor any real way to look into things%2C I had no idea it actually -had- %0D%0A%3Ebeen cancelled%2C and wondered for the longest time how things panned %0D%0A%3Eout for Wren and his crew. %0D%0A%0D%0AI certainly have nothing against old or short shows. %22My%22 show is so old it was an OAV series that got cut short%2C which was rebooted into a full TV series years later. Nowadays%2C it seems like nobody but the oldsters have seen %28or heard of%29 BGC these days.%0D%0A%0D%0AJeanne%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Btable border%3D%220%22 cellspacing%3D%220%22 cellpadding%3D%220%22 width%3D%2280%25%22%5D%5Btr%5D%5Btd colspan%3D%222%22%5D%5Bhr size%3D%221%22 noshade%5D%5B%2Ftd%5D%5Btr%5D%5Btd align%3D%22center%22 width%3D%2210%25%22%5Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.jhedge.com%2Fmisc%2Foldowl.jpg%5B%2Ftd%5D%5Btd%5D%5Bfont size%3D2%5D%5Bb%5DJeanne Hedge%5B%2Fb%5D%0D%0A%5Blink%3Awww.jhedge.com%7Chttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.jhedge.com%5D%5B%2Ffont%5D%5B%2Ftd%5D%5B%2Ftr%5D%5Btr%5D%5Btd colspan%3D%222%22%5D%5Bi%5D%5Bfont size%3D1%5D%22Never give up%2C never surrender%21%22%5B%2Ffont%5D%0D%0A%5B%2Fi%5D%5B%2Ftd%5D%5B%2Ftr%5D%5Btr%5D%5Btd colspan%3D%222%22%5D%5Bhr size%3D%221%22 noshade%5D%5B%2Ftd%5D%5B%2Ftr%5D%5B%2Ftable%5D 6|1|0|||1||RE%3A Le Droit du Dragon|Gryphon||17:58:19|08/18/2013|[updated:LAST EDITED ON Aug-18-13 AT 06:00 PM (EDT)]%3E...and since I%27ve been wondering since I noticed the PoDW references%2C %0D%0A%3E%5Bi%5Ddo they have minga melons%3F%5B%2Fi%5D %28M%27nga%3F Min%27ga%3F Hellufino how %0D%0A%3Eyou%27d localize it...%29 %0D%0A%0D%0AY%27know what%2C there really are days when I feel like %5Blink%3Awww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DzeyU7uVOTic%7Cthe police chief%5D from %5Bi%5DClerks%3A The Animated Series%5B%2Fi%5D.%0D%0A%0D%0AAs for your question%2C I suspect only Marty could answer that for sure. It occurs to me that I have no direct experience with %5Bi%5Deither%5B%2Fi%5D of the base references he originally devised Hyeruul from.%0D%0A%0D%0A%28Yes%2C that also means I haven%27t played a %5Bi%5DZelda%5B%2Fi%5D game. %5Blink%3Awww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DoK089qEVe3o%26feature%3Dplayer_detailpage%26t%3D34%7COh%2C don%27t look at me like that.%5D%29%0D%0A%0D%0A--G.%0D%0A%5Bsmall%5D%22Nothing can kill the Grimace.%22%5B%2Fsmall%5D%0D%0A-%3E%3C-%0D%0ABenjamin D. Hutchins%2C Co-Founder%2C Editor-in-Chief%2C %26 Forum Mod%0D%0AEyrie Productions%2C Unlimited http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eyrie-productions.com%2F%0D%0Azgryphon at that email service Google has%0D%0A%5Bi%5DCeterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam.%5B%2Fi%5D 8|2|6|||1||RE%3A Le Droit du Dragon|Mercutio||20:34:21|08/18/2013|The most delicious part of this post is how your witty rejoinder to a question about an obscure%2C mostly-forgotten animated series was a clip from an equally obscure%2C mostly-forgotten animated series.%0D%0A%0D%0AThis is the kind of nerd one-upsmanship that either eneves Mother eloping with%0D%0A%3EFather doomed the family to extinction.%22%0D%0A%0D%0AI bet this makes her just the FAVORITE aunt of her niece and nephew%21%0D%0A%0D%0A%3E%22Listen to me%21%22 Nall said urgently. %22Nax is -not- the kind of%0D%0A%3Edragon you%27re used to. He lives in Midgard because he%27s an exile. A%0D%0A%3Ewar criminal. His Name means %27Cruelty%2C Never Mercy%27. Now go%21%22%0D%0A%0D%0AInteresting. I do wonder if that%27s a formal exile%2C or a %22skipped town before the heat came down%22 exile. I can see it going either way.%0D%0A%0D%0AI have to say that the fight with Nax seems a bit... hmm. Perfunctory%3F I know this is just a short%2C but it felt really superfluous in a way that nothing else in the story did%3B it%27s like %22Well%2C we kind of promised a dragon fight%2C and Act III needs a big finish to send us offstage on%2C so... here you go.%22 I wouldn%27t say it%27s dull%2C but it%27s just kind of... there. Nax swoops down%2C Nall kicks his ass%2C they all go watch Corwin and Utena get hitched. %0D%0A%0D%0AI dunno%2C it could just be me.%0D%0A%0D%0A%3EThen%2C smiling tiredly%2C he said%2C %22Your homeworld is terrible%2C%0D%0A%3EUmi. Let%27s never come back here again.%22%0D%0A%0D%0AI%27m kinda with Nall on this one.%0D%0A%0D%0A-Merc%0D%0AKeep Rat 13|2|11|||1||RE%3A Le Droit du Dragon|Gryphon||23:35:17|08/18/2013|%3EHmm. Given Ben%27s professed unfamiliarity with Zelda%2C I can%27t help but %0D%0A%3Ewonder if the name choice here is deliberate or not. %0D%0A%0D%0ANope%2C made up on the spot out of more-or-less-randomly-selected syllables.%0D%0A%0D%0A%3EOne day%2C someone is actually going to make use of all those lovely %0D%0A%3Einternational institutions that Megazone%2C Jeremy Feeple%2C and the other %0D%0A%3Efine people of the Babylon Foundation and various diplomatic services %0D%0A%3Ehave poured blood%2C sweat%2C and tears into establishing. %0D%0A%0D%0A... and %5Bi%5Donly you%5B%2Fi%5D will enjoy that episode. %3A%29%0D%0A%0D%0AAlso%2C in Fuu%27s defense%2C she doesn%27t know Umi%27s groom is a%29 prepubescent and b%29 probably even less into this than Umi is. She thinks her friend is about to be dragged off to whothechristevenknowswhat. These people are obviously goddamn medievalist savages%2C for all she knows they still do that parade-the-bloody-sheets-through-the-town thing. I didn%27t really wanna %5Bi%5Dgo%5B%2Fi%5D there - see the annotations for a few notes about how I had to grapple with that whole corner of the premise a bit - but jeez.%0D%0A%0D%0A%3EOkay%2C the Prince is officially awesome%2C but geeeeez. Kid is badly in %0D%0A%3Eneed of seasoning.%0D%0A%0D%0ACut him some slack%2C he%27s the Hyelian equivalent of eleven and he%27s having a %5Bi%5Dreal%5B%2Fi%5D hard day.%0D%0A%0D%0A%3EWould it be safe to say that Izumi... is an elite warrior who%27s %0D%0A%3Etrained for many years in the art of stealth%3F %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3E%28I%27m sorry.%29 %0D%0A%0D%0A%22I don%27t know who you are. I don%27t know what you want. If you are looking for ransom%2C I can tell you I don%27t have money. But what I do have is a very particular set of skills.... %22%0D%0A%0D%0A%3EHuh. Interesting cultural stereotype. I would have figured Fire %0D%0A%3ENationals would have a reputation as natural thugs and bullies%3B %0D%0A%3Eelement of power and all that%2C plus the Fire Nation during the Hundred %0D%0A%3EYear%27s War didn%27t really seem all that... subtle. More %22burn down the %0D%0A%3Evillage to make a point.%22 %0D%0A%0D%0AIt%27s a little different on Kyoshi Island%2C particularly among the Warriors%2C where the main point of historical contact with the Fire Nation came in the form of infiltrators and assassins. %28Looking at you%2C Mai.%29%0D%0A%0D%0A%3EHell%2C putting just ONE guy on a door is a mistake to begin with. At %0D%0A%3Ethat point you%27re not a guard%3B you%27re a decoration. Your job isn%27t %0D%0A%3Eactually protection%2C it%27s to give the hallway a finished look. %0D%0A%0D%0AThese guys are basically mallcops.%0D%0A%0D%0A%3EWhat was that you were saying a few weeks ago about chi blocking being %0D%0A%3Echeap%2C cheap shit%2C Ben%3F %3A%29 %0D%0A%0D%0AImportant detail%3A%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bi%5DShe%27d already won the fight anyway at that point.%5B%2Fi%5D%0D%0A%0D%0AIt%27s not the Poke of I Win%2C it%27s the Poke of Stay Out of My Way Now%2C Defeated Person.%0D%0A%0D%0A%3EI have to say that the fight with Nax seems a bit... hmm. Perfunctory%3F %0D%0A%3EI know this is just a short%2C but it felt really superfluous in a way %0D%0A%3Ethat nothing else in the story did%3B it%27s like %22Well%2C we kind of %0D%0A%3Epromised a dragon fight%2C and Act III needs a big finish to send us %0D%0A%3Eoffstage on%2C so... here you go.%22 I wouldn%27t say it%27s dull%2C but it%27s %0D%0A%3Ejust kind of... there. Nax swoops down%2C Nall kicks his ass%2C they all %0D%0A%3Ego watch Corwin and Utena get hitched. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3EI dunno%2C it could just be me. %0D%0A%0D%0AUse your damn imagination%2C boy. I gave you plenty of adjectives to work with.%0D%0A%0D%0A--G.%0D%0A-%3E%3C-%0D%0ABenjamin D. Hutchins%2C Co-Founder%2C Editor-in-Chief%2C %26 Forum Mod%0D%0AEyrie Productions%2C Unlimited http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eyrie-productions.com%2F%0D%0Azgryphon at that email service Google has%0D%0A%5Bi%5DCeterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam.%5B%2Fi%5D 16|3|13|||1||RE%3A Le Droit du Dragon|Mercutio||00:09:41|08/19/2013|[updated:LAST EDITED ON Aug-19-13 AT 02:47 AM (EDT)]%3E%3EHmm. Given Ben%27s professed unfamiliarity with Zelda%2C I can%27t help but %0D%0A%3E%3Ewonder if the name choice here is deliberate or not. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3ENope%2C made up on the spot out of more-or-less-randomly-selected %0D%0A%3Esyllables. %0D%0A%0D%0ASerendipity%2C then. Always cool when that happens.%0D%0A%0D%0A%3E%3EOne day%2C someone is actually going to make use of all those lovely %0D%0A%3E%3Einternational institutions that Megazone%2C Jeremy Feeple%2C and the other %0D%0A%3E%3Efine people of the Babylon Foundation and various diplomatic services %0D%0A%3E%3Ehave poured blood%2C sweat%2C and tears into establishing. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3E... and %5Bi%5Donly you%5B%2Fi%5D will enjoy that episode. %3A%29 %0D%0A%0D%0AHey%2C you guys manage to make that sort of stuff pretty awesome when you choose to dip your toe into that pool. Gryphon%27s murder trial was pretty damned riveting%2C and that was basically a political fight from beginning to end. I can%27t be the only one who thought so. %3A%29%0D%0A%0D%0A%28I also have fond memories of Redneck and Jeremy standing before the Supreme Judiciary to make the case against Garth Zard%27al%2C but I haven%27t read those passages in a very long time%2C and Redneck has since retired.%29%0D%0A%0D%0A%3EAlso%2C in Fuu%27s defense%2C she doesn%27t know Umi%27s groom is a%29 %0D%0A%3Eprepubescent and b%29 probably even less into this than Umi is. She %0D%0A%3Ethinks her friend is about to be dragged off to %0D%0A%3Ewhothechristevenknowswhat. These people are obviously goddamn %0D%0A%3Emedievalist savages%2C for all she knows they still do that %0D%0A%3Eparade-the-bloody-sheets-through-the-town thing. I didn%27t really %0D%0A%3Ewanna %5Bi%5Dgo%5B%2Fi%5D there - see the annotations for a few notes about how %0D%0A%3EI had to grapple with that whole corner of the premise a bit - but %0D%0A%3Ejeez. %0D%0A%0D%0AI actually should have mentioned%2C I was rather glad you didn%27t.%0D%0A%0D%0AIt would have been very easy to make Umi%27s fiancee some sort of leering%2C groping fop and%2For hardcore cultural reactionary%2C the kind of guy nobody minds seeing get mauled by a dragon. But you didn%27t%2C you went %22basically okay%2C victim of his culture.%22 That makes simply applying swift and brutal violence to the situation a lot more complex.%0D%0A%0D%0AI really don%27t really blame Fuu%2C as such. Umi%27s family is doing something pretty barbaric to her. But man%2C it was kind of funny %28well%2C it was funny to me%2C and in kind of a black way%29 the way you had Nall parsing out legal strategies%2C and then Fuu goes %22NO LAWYERS DRAGON TIME NAO%22 and he rolls with it.%0D%0A%0D%0A%3E%3EHell%2C putting just ONE guy on a door is a mistake to begin with. At %0D%0A%3E%3Ethat point you%27re not a guard%3B you%27re a decoration. Your job isn%27t %0D%0A%3E%3Eactually protection%2C it%27s to give the hallway a finished look. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3EThese guys are basically mallcops. %0D%0A%0D%0ABeing a mallcop is actually harder than people think it is%2C but I take your meaning.%0D%0A%0D%0A%3EUse your damn imagination%2C boy. I gave you plenty of adjectives to work with.%0D%0A%0D%0AOh%2C the fight itself was well-executed. I got no complaints there. You%27ve been choreographing these things for%2C what%2C twenty years%3F I%27d actually feel really weird about going after it on that level unless something really egregious had happened.%0D%0A%0D%0AMy critique was more structurally based. It just kind of seems like Nax was there %5Bb%5Djust%5B%2Fb%5D to have a fight with%3B you insert an unambiguously evil bad guy with no real connection to the rest of the story or purpose for being other than for Nall to prove how badass he is %28which Nall has already done a lot of times%29 by taking him down hard. Like you got to the end%2C realized there needed to be a final boss instead of everyone waving goodbye to Bogan and vanishing in a spray of light%2C and cobbled one together.%0D%0A%0D%0ANot trying to be a dick about this%2C just calling it like I see it.%0D%0A%0D%0A-Merc%0D%0AKeep Rat 28|4|16|||1||RE%3A Le Droit du Dragon|Gryphon||12:03:00|08/19/2013|%3EMy critique was more structurally based. It just kind of seems like %0D%0A%3ENax was there %5Bb%5Djust%5B%2Fb%5D to have a fight with%3B you insert an %0D%0A%3Eunambiguously evil bad guy with no real connection to the rest of the %0D%0A%3Estory or purpose for being other than for Nall to prove how badass he %0D%0A%3Eis %28which Nall has already done a lot of times%29 by taking him down %0D%0A%3Ehard.%0D%0A%0D%0AActually%2C he%27s there for several reasons%2C of which the fight itself is probably the least significant. He%27s also there to provide key onlookers inside and outside the story with a heretofore unseen insight into the darker side of draconic culture%2C say a few things that make it more difficult for Umi and Nall to put certain thoughts back in their boxes%2C and reveal at least one important fact about Nall to several people who did not previously know it.%0D%0A%0D%0AThis installment is interesting to me mainly because not everything that gets raised in that way is immediately dealt with%2C but if I %5Bi%5Dhad%5B%2Fi%5D immediately dealt with them %28as feels like my more usual custom%29%2C I%27d have people - possibly the %5Bi%5Dsame%5B%2Fi%5D people%2C ironically enough - gigging me for everything being all pat and handled before the last commercial.%0D%0A%0D%0A--G.%0D%0A-%3E%3C-%0D%0ABenjamin D. Hutchins%2C Co-Founder%2C Editor-in-Chief%2C %26 Forum Mod%0D%0AEyrie Productions%2C Unlimited http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eyrie-productions.com%2F%0D%0Azgryphon at that email service Google has%0D%0A%5Bi%5DCeterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam.%5B%2Fi%5D 29|5|28|||1||RE%3A Le Droit du Dragon|Mercutio||12:27:51|08/19/2013|%3EActually%2C he%27s there for several reasons%2C of which the fight itself is %0D%0A%3Eprobably the least significant. He%27s also there to provide key %0D%0A%3Eonlookers inside and outside the story with a heretofore unseen %0D%0A%3Einsight into the darker side of draconic culture%2C say a few things %0D%0A%3Ethat make it more difficult for Umi and Nall to put certain thoughts %0D%0A%3Eback in their boxes%2C and reveal at least one important fact about Nall %0D%0A%3Eto several people who did not previously know it. %0D%0A%0D%0AHmm%2C fair enough. I suppose this could be on me%3B I%27d already sort of internalized the idea that Nall%2C underneath the whole cat%2Fcute boy thing%2C has some dark shit lurking in his cultural background. But Umi and Co. don%27t exactly have a readers-eye view%2C do they%3F%0D%0A%0D%0A%3EThis installment is interesting to me mainly because not everything %0D%0A%3Ethat gets raised in that way is immediately dealt with%2C but if I %0D%0A%3E%5Bi%5Dhad%5B%2Fi%5D immediately dealt with them %28as feels like my more usual %0D%0A%3Ecustom%29%2C %0D%0A%0D%0ANot only that%2C the thing %5Bb%5Dfeels%5B%2Fb%5D like a one-off. It could almost be an episode of Brave and the Bold%2C even. There are things in it that I expect will come up in the future%2C but not precisely in the same way that%2C say%2C unresolved threads and revelation in the Symphony proper usually end up returning with a vengeance.%0D%0A%0D%0A%3EI%27d have people - possibly the %5Bi%5Dsame%5B%2Fi%5D people%2C ironically %0D%0A%3Eenough - gigging me for everything being all pat and handled before %0D%0A%3Ethe last commercial. %0D%0A%0D%0AMaybe. I%27m not renowned for my sterling consistency%2C after all. %3A%29 But%2C you know%2C not everything has to be one microscopic cog in a catastrophic plan. Sometimes things just happen and then they%27re over with without being part of a giant grand tapestry. That time Gryphon missed a whole Kilrathi War to go fight in the Beast Wars springs to mind%3B that was basically all pat and handled before the last commercial.%0D%0A%0D%0AThat said%2C there are times when rushing to wrap up everything up might be a poor stylistic choice. But you take things as they come.%0D%0A%0D%0A-Merc%0D%0AKeep Rat 30|6|29|||1||RE%3A Le Droit du Dragon|Gryphon||12:39:36|08/19/2013|%3EThat time Gryphon %0D%0A%3Emissed a whole Kilrathi War to go fight in the Beast Wars springs to %0D%0A%3Emind%3B that was basically all pat and handled before the last %0D%0A%3Ecommercial. %0D%0A%0D%0A... and was not the sixty-fifth piece%28%21%29 of a larger set of story arcs that aren%27t finished yet.%0D%0A%0D%0A--G.%0D%0A-%3E%3C-%0D%0ABenjamin D. Hutchins%2C Co-Founder%2C Editor-in-Chief%2C %26 Forum Mod%0D%0AEyrie Productions%2C Unlimited http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eyrie-productions.com%2F%0D%0Azgryphon at that email service Google has%0D%0A%5Bi%5DCeterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam.%5B%2Fi%5D 31|6|29|||1||RE%3A Le Droit du Dragon|Pasha||17:29:57|08/19/2013|%3E%3EActually%2C he%27s there for several reasons%2C of which the fight itself is %0D%0A%3E%3Eprobably the least significant. He%27s also there to provide key %0D%0A%3E%3Eonlookers inside and outside the story with a heretofore unseen %0D%0A%3E%3Einsight into the darker side of draconic culture%2C say a few things %0D%0A%3E%3Ethat make it more difficult for Umi and Nall to put certain thoughts %0D%0A%3E%3Eback in their boxes%2C and reveal at least one important fact about Nall %0D%0A%3E%3Eto several people who did not previously know it. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3EHmm%2C fair enough. I suppose this could be on me%3B I%27d already sort of %0D%0A%3Einternalized the idea that Nall%2C underneath the whole cat%2Fcute boy %0D%0A%3Ething%2C has some dark shit lurking in his cultural background. But Umi %0D%0A%3Eand Co. don%27t exactly have a readers-eye view%2C do they%3F %0D%0A%0D%0AAlso%2C this is%2C I feel%2C the first time that we%27ve seen Nall actually worried about a fight since his investiture. I felt that%2C when he was talking to Umi and saying %22get away while I talk%22 there was an implied %22and when that fails and it becomes a fight stop walking away and start running%2C %27cause I%27m not sure how this is gonna end up.%22 I mean%2C we know it turns out alright in the end because of how the story is structured %28and because it%27s EPU and the Heroes almost always win%29%2C but not knowing that%3F He%27s a guy walking into a fight that%27s 6%3A5 and pick %27em.%0D%0A%0D%0A-- %0D%0A-Pasha%0D%0A%22Don%27t change the subject%22%0D%0A%22Too slow%2C already did.%22 17|3|13|||||RE%3A Le Droit du Dragon|Star Ranger4||02:24:36|08/19/2013|%3E%3EI dunno%2C it could just be me. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3EUse your damn imagination%2C boy. I gave you plenty of adjectives to %0D%0A%3Ework with. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0AIndeed... The way I saw it in my minds eye was this epic swirl that actually DEFIES being put into mere words on a page. 14|2|11|||1||RE%3A Le Droit du Dragon|SpottedKitty||23:44:51|08/18/2013|%3EI like to imagine that there%27s always at least one smartass in every %0D%0A%3Ecadre of Kyoshi Warriors who asks%2C all wide-eyed innocence%2C %22But %0D%0A%3Esensei%2C what happens if -both- of us are open to Avatar Kyoshi%27s %0D%0A%3Euncompromising spirit%3F%22 %0D%0A%0D%0AProbably about the same as when both players of a beat-%27em-up game select to fight as CHUCK NORRIS...%0D%0A%0D%0A... or possibly Jackie Chan %28with or without sweet bean roll%29.%0D%0A%0D%0A-- %0D%0AUnable to save the day%3A File is read-only. 15|3|14|||1||RE%3A Le Droit du Dragon|Gryphon||23:48:45|08/18/2013|%3E%3EI like to imagine that there%27s always at least one smartass in every %0D%0A%3E%3Ecadre of Kyoshi Warriors who asks%2C all wide-eyed innocence%2C %22But %0D%0A%3E%3Esensei%2C what happens if -both- of us are open to Avatar Kyoshi%27s %0D%0A%3E%3Euncompromising spirit%3F%22 %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3EProbably about the same as when both players of a beat-%27em-up game %0D%0A%3Eselect to fight as CHUCK NORRIS... %0D%0A%0D%0A%22Try to imagine all life as you know it stopping instantaneously and every molecule in your body exploding at the speed of light.%22%0D%0A%0D%0A%28sharp intake of breath%29 %22Total protonic reversal.%22%0D%0A%0D%0A%22Right%2C that%27s bad. OK. All right. Important safety tip%21 Thanks%2C Egon.%22%0D%0A%0D%0A--G.%0D%0A-%3E%3C-%0D%0ABenjamin D. Hutchins%2C Co-Founder%2C Editor-in-Chief%2C %26 Forum Mod%0D%0AEyrie Productions%2C Unlimited http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eyrie-productions.com%2F%0D%0Azgryphon at that email service Google has%0D%0A%5Bi%5DCeterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam.%5B%2Fi%5D 18|2|11|||||RE%3A Le Droit du Dragon|Meridias||04:00:26|08/19/2013|%3ERomantic love is a pretty powerful thing%2C but a lot of people fixate %0D%0A%3Eon it as some sort of magical fix-it%2C where all you need is both love %0D%0A%3Eand willpower and you can accomplish damn near anything. %0D%0A%0D%0AForgive me%2C but I would like to now remind everybody of the major good guys that we%27ve come to know in this universe. The %27love and willpower%27 thing%3F It has been shown lots of time that it actually CAN do some pretty amazing things. Case in point%3A when Corwin meets Anthy%3F Just sayin%27. %3A%29 25|3|18|||1||RE%3A Le Droit du Dragon|Mercutio||11:20:07|08/19/2013|Well%2C it%27s not useless%2C don%27t get me wrong. It just doesn%27t mean much unless paired with other virtues and with actual juice. Conversely%2C they don%27t mean much unless paired with %5Bb%5Dit%5B%2Fb%5D.%0D%0A%0D%0AYou cite when Corwin met Anthy%3B I would like to note that all the love in the world wouldn%27t have helped Corwin when he went into Cephiro if he hadn%27t also happened to be%2C you know%2C a god%2C and to have loads of actual%2C quantifiable power to hurl at Akio and his buddies and a number of get-out-of-jail-free cards.%0D%0A%0D%0A-Merc%0D%0AKeep Rat 21|2|11|||||RE%3A Le Droit du Dragon|Meagen||08:15:12|08/19/2013|%3EHmm. If I were Umi%2C once I got home%2C I%27d do a lot of digging into %0D%0A%3Ewhat%27s about to happen here. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3EThis suggests one of three things%3A %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3E1%29 The Duchess thinks she has the juice to tell the collected %0D%0A%3Epersonages and institutions above to go stick it and have them back %0D%0A%3Edown.%0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3E2%29 The Duchess is pretty sure that people will come%2C rescue Umi%2C %0D%0A%3Edeclare the marriage null and void in the eyes of the galaxy%2C and fly %0D%0A%3Eaway home. She just doesn%27t care%2C which would imply another agenda at %0D%0A%3Ework. Umi probably would like to know what that is and if she%27ll be %0D%0A%3Edodging kidnappers from now on. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3E3%29 A powerful Hyelian noblewoman has lost her marbles and is just %0D%0A%3Estraight-up doing desperate%2C crazy shit. %0D%0A%0D%0AI%27d say 1%29 is closest. The Duchess basically treats Hyerul as The Only Place In The Galaxy That Matters. That Gryphon guy may be a Big Deal in Other Places%2C but she is a Big Deal on Hyerul%2C which %2Aof course%2A trumps him. If he comes around to complain%2C she can tell him where to stick it.%0D%0A%0D%0A%3E%3EIt%27s a three-hour walk%2C and that%27s if we make good time through the%0D%0A%3E%3EValley of the Orcs - which I wouldn%27t count on%2C because%2C well%2C orcs.%22%0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3E... seriously%3F They still have orcs on Hyeruul%3F %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3EPlace really is trapped in the 14th century. What%2C is that Valley some %0D%0A%3Esort of game preserve%3F They keep a few thousand orcs around in their %0D%0A%3Enatural environment so that noblemen can ride in%2C pop a few with their %0D%0A%3Eblaster rifles and feel like big men%2C protecting the stead from %0D%0A%3Emarauders like their ancestors did in the days when a longsword was a %0D%0A%3Epiece of high-tech weaponry%3F %0D%0A%0D%0AI like that.%0D%0A%0D%0A%3EI have to say that the fight with Nax seems a bit... hmm. Perfunctory%3F %0D%0A%3EI know this is just a short%2C but it felt really superfluous in a way %0D%0A%3Ethat nothing else in the story did%3B it%27s like %22Well%2C we kind of %0D%0A%3Epromised a dragon fight%2C and Act III needs a big finish to send us %0D%0A%3Eoffstage on%2C so... here you go.%22 I wouldn%27t say it%27s dull%2C but it%27s %0D%0A%3Ejust kind of... there. Nax swoops down%2C Nall kicks his ass%2C they all %0D%0A%3Ego watch Corwin and Utena get hitched. %0D%0A%0D%0AWell%2C it provides Nall and Umi with a convenient distraction before either of them says something they really regret. I%27d say anything below %22second actual dragon%2C hostile%22 would barely register once they really get going.%0D%0A%0D%0AAnd we know Nall is a badass%2C sure. But with his usual joking%2C easygoing personality%2C would we really know how much raw %2Aanger%2A he%27s keeping in check over the whole thing%2C if a convenient outlet for that anger hadn%27t come along%3F 12|1|0|||1||RE%3A Le Droit du Dragon|Bad Moon||23:33:50|08/18/2013|Nall%2C fuck yes.%0D%0A%0D%0A------%0D%0AJon Helscher%0D%0A%0D%0AOh God%2C it was me. I was the grognard all along. 19|1|0|||||RE%3A Le Droit du Dragon|Polychrome||04:10:47|08/19/2013|Y%27know%2C I think the real villain of the piece doesn%27t even appear in it%3A the great-aunt. Umi%27s grandmother is desperate possibly to the point of mental impairment%2C and Nax was basically defending his turf. Whereas the great-aunt %28whose name I can%27t seem to find%29 took advantage of M%27belyyn%27da%27s desperation and whatever leverage she used on her family to set up this wedding%2C probably for some sort of political advantage.%0D%0A%0D%0APolychrome%0D%0A%0D%0APretty typical really. 24|2|19|||1||RE%3A Le Droit du Dragon|Mercutio||11:14:31|08/19/2013|Bogan%27s great-aunt isn%27t named but does appear%2C I think%3B she is %28presumably%29 the very old lady chaperoning him%3A%0D%0A%0D%0A%3EVisibly terrified at the prospect of going forward with the%0D%0A%3Eday%27s agenda. He wouldn%27t even look her in the eye when her grandmother%0D%0A%3Eand his own chaperone%2C an elderly woman who %28unlike Duchess M%27belyyn%27da%0D%0A%3Ethe Elder%29 really did qualify for the title of %22crone%22%2C had introduced%0D%0A%3Ethem%3B%0D%0A%0D%0AAnd I%27m not sure I%27d be entirely quick to judge here. Umi%27s family got out of Hyeruul%3B the Duchess attempting to drag them in is kind of a dick move. But everybody else has to live there%2C and Hyeruul seems like a pretty patriarchal place. That means if you%27re a woman%2C there are only a few paths to wielding real actual power and having a degree of control over your own life%2C and this is going to be one of them.%0D%0A%0D%0AI%27m reminded of a quote from one of Charles Stross%27 works%2C the Clan Corporate%2C about how that kind of intergenerational dysfunction can work%3A%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Btt%5D%22Look%2C the rules are really very simple. You grow up hating and fearing your grandmother. Then she marries you off to some near-stranger. A generation later%2C you have your own grandchildren and you realize you%92ve got to hurt them just the way your own great-aunts and grandmother hurt you%2C or you%92ll be doing them an even worse disservice%3B if you don%92t%2C then instead of a legacy of some degree of power all they%92ll inherit is the status of elderly has-been chattel.%22%5B%2Ftt%5D %0D%0A%0D%0AThe Duchess at least can wield power in her own right as a widow. Bogan%27s great-aunt might not even have that going for her.%0D%0A%0D%0A-Merc%0D%0AKeep Rat 20|1|0|||||RE%3A Le Droit du Dragon|Meagen||07:58:58|08/19/2013|So this was basically one long session of me squeeing excitedly at my computer screen%2C and I will try my best to list every single one. You%27re welcome%21%0D%0A%0D%0A%3E She was being excruciatingly formal%0D%0A%3E -and- insultingly familiar -at the same time%2C- a spectacular peak of%0D%0A%3E sarcasm that wouldn%27t have been attainable in many other tongues. It%0D%0A%3E was like being verbally abused by an angry angel.%0D%0A%0D%0ACount me in on the linguistic geekery squee.%0D%0A%0D%0A%3E The Duchess snorted. %3CLove. Pfeh. You young people and your%0D%0A%3E absurd fixation on -love.- Romantic love is a passing storm%2C nothing%0D%0A%3E more. It will not move mountains%2C nor will it save the world. Love%0D%0A%3E will not blaze a trail to victory.%3E%0D%0A%0D%0AI laughed%21 And then felt sad. Because she really believes that.%0D%0A%0D%0A%3E Thou may%27st%0D%0A%3E force the issue for the moment%2C but know thee this%3A thou hast bought%0D%0A%3E more trouble than doth EXIST in thy philosophy.%0D%0A%0D%0ALinguistic geekery%2C Shakespeare reference and badassery for a triple squee combo.%0D%0A%0D%0A%3E %22I would be surprised if she didn%27t do so anyway%2C%22 Fuu observed.%0D%0A%3E %22We may well be acting to protect the Duchess Mr%27kreth%27yyr as much as%0D%0A%3E anything else.%22%0D%0A%0D%0AProtecting the not-at-all-innocent squee.%0D%0A%0D%0A%3E %22So what%27s the plan%3F%22 Wakaba wondered. %22Do we just knock the%0D%0A%3E place down%3F%22 She made a fist%2C her Lens emitting a glow like a tongue of%0D%0A%3E emerald flame%2C and smiled grimly. %22I%27m up for that.%22%0D%0A%0D%0AWakaba is clearly going by WWPUTD%3F%0D%0A%0D%0A%3E %22For the King%27s sake%2C yo%2C sack up an%27 HANDLE this%21%22 she snapped%2C%0D%0A%3E her usually suppressed native dialect resurfacing in full force. Then%0D%0A%3E she leaned forward like a baseball manager arguing with an umpire and%0D%0A%3E shouted into his face%2C %22IS YOU _IS_ OR IS YOU _AIN%27T_ A _DRAGON%3F%21_%22%0D%0A%0D%0AMore linguistic%2Freference%2Fbadassery squee%21%0D%0A%0D%0A%3E I shall speak no more than three%0D%0A%3E words to him.%3E%0D%0A%3E Umi saw the surprised%2C suspicious flicker of gratification cross%0D%0A%3E her grandmother%27s face at that%2C and was pleased with herself for not%0D%0A%3E smiling darkly at the sight of it.%0D%0A%0D%0ACounter-mindgaming the mind-gamer quiet squee.%0D%0A%0D%0A%3E She made the old woman force her into her place simply for the%0D%0A%3E sake of wasting her energy%2C then stood demurely and awaited her chance.%0D%0A%0D%0AI just realised%3A In contrast to Wakaba%2C Umm%27y is taking cues from her Priestess. It fits so well%21%0D%0A%0D%0A%3E %22FO%21 Krah DIIN%21%22%0D%0A%3E These syllables - the ancient Draconic words for %22frost%22%2C%0D%0A%3E %22cold%22%2C and %22freeze%22 - brought with them a torrent of arctic wind that%0D%0A%3E slashed across the space between the bride and the celebrant%2C engulfing%0D%0A%3E him in flying shards of frost.%0D%0A%0D%0AThree word squee%21%0D%0A%0D%0A%3E %3CDragon%21%3E cried the Duchess%2C horrified.%0D%0A%3E Nall%21 thought Umi%2C but she had the presence of mind not to say%0D%0A%3E anything out loud.%0D%0A%0D%0ADragon rescuing the princess squee%21%0D%0A%0D%0A%3E %3CLook out%2C milady%21%3E Prince B%27ghanna%27vel cried%2C throwing himself%0D%0A%3E between his intended bride and the oncoming dragon%2C his dress sword%0D%0A%3E drawn.%0D%0A%0D%0AHeart%27s in the right place.%0D%0A%0D%0A%3E %22We must hurry. I can%27t even%0D%0A%3E imagine what that dragon is doing to poor Countess Uum%27y right now.%22%0D%0A%3E %22%28I can%2C%29%22 Wakaba muttered with a muted giggle%2C earning herself%0D%0A%3E a swat up the back of the head from Tsuwabuki.%0D%0A%0D%0ADon%27t freak the mundanes%2C Wakaba.%0D%0A%0D%0A%3E This was the sort of bluff that was -supremely- embarrassing if%0D%0A%3E called%2C but in her training%2C Izumi had been told%3A %22Think on the lessons%0D%0A%3E of Avatar Kyoshi%2C open youself to her uncompromising spirit%2C and no one%0D%0A%3E will ever dare doubt you.%22%0D%0A%0D%0AKyoshi glare squee.%0D%0A%0D%0A%3E Guardsman %28formerly Captain%29 K%27diirhan%0D%0A%3E would insist that she had been a formally-dressed foreign giant of a%0D%0A%3E woman%2C more than six feet tall and powerfully built%2C with boots even%0D%0A%3E larger than his. This was not true%2C but from his perspective%2C neither%0D%0A%3E was it a lie.%0D%0A%0D%0ATrying very hard not to laugh out of respect to the poor man%27s feelings.%0D%0A%0D%0A%3E In spite of herself%2C Wakaba snorted. %22OK%2C well%2C he%27s got%0D%0A%3E backbone%2C when he%27s not dealing with pushy old ladies%2C%22 she conceded.%0D%0A%0D%0AThat kid will go places. Assuming he doesn%27t get himself killed before he%27s sixty.%0D%0A%0D%0A%3E %22Why%3F Because it was wrong%3F Or because it was an intrusion on%0D%0A%3E your territory%3F%22 Umi asked pointedly.%0D%0A%3E Nall turned on the rocky bench and gave her a look of startled%2C%0D%0A%3E offended incredulity. %22I%27m sorry%3F Did I hear you right%3F %0D%0A%0D%0AYeah%2C this doesn%27t read like a problem that just came up now. They%27re both incredibly proud and headstrong young people%2C which makes them a good match%2C but also... well%2C this.%0D%0A%0D%0A%3E %22If he%27s your cousin%2C can%27t you just talk to him%3F%22 Umi wondered.%0D%0A%3E %22Couldn%27t you just talk to your grandmother%3F%22 Nall retorted%2C and%0D%0A%3E she had to admit he had a point.%0D%0A%0D%0AMan%2C family.%0D%0A%0D%0A%3E Nax laughed unpleasantly. %3CWhelp. Stripling. You plainly%0D%0A%3E stole that elf-maid from her wedding and brought her here%2C to this%0D%0A%3E obvious dragonpeak%2C to have your way with her. I congratulate you. I%0D%0A%3E had no idea your generation still cared about the old customs.%3E He%0D%0A%3E lowered his head and sneered at his cousin from a mere two or three feet%0D%0A%3E away. %3CI claim her as the tribute I require to let you leave this place%0D%0A%3E with your life.%3E%0D%0A%0D%0AOkay%2C that doesn%27t quite %2Atop%2A Gryphon%27s line to Utena during their first Christmas together %28about real duels%2C and dangers thereof%29 for worse possible thing to say to that particular person in those particular circumstances%2C but it comes close.%0D%0A%0D%0AHe shouldn%27t have oughtta said that%2C is what I%27m sayin%27.%0D%0A%0D%0A%3E The tools of battle between dragons%0D%0A%3E were teeth and claws%2C bludgeoning tails%2C old sorceries%2C lashing bolts%0D%0A%3E and streams of magical breath%3B without quarter or any of the little%0D%0A%3E courtesies that were customary even in mortal combat among humanoids.%0D%0A%0D%0AI%27m trying to think of a quote from Gandalf about battles around mountaintops and great storms raging. Although it would be snowstorms in this case.%0D%0A%0D%0A%3E Nall%27s smile became a grin. He clouted the young prince on the%0D%0A%3E shoulder in a friendly way%2C angled a thumb over his own shoulder at the%0D%0A%3E remains of his cousin%2C and said%2C %22Well%2C being in on killing a dragon%0D%0A%3E ought to earn you a few points with the rest of the ladies. %0D%0A%0D%0AAnd knowing he actually hasn%27t done anything will hopefully give him some humility and the drive to train until he can actually fight one someday.%0D%0A%0D%0A%3E featuring%0D%0A%3E The Castle Mr%27kreth%27yyr Guards and Servants%0D%0A%3E and%0D%0A%3E The Orcs of Orc Valley%0D%0A%0D%0AA bunch of witless barbarians without the skill or the determination to ever be decent opposition to Our Heroes... and some orcs. 22|1|0|||||RE%3A Le Droit du Dragon|BeardedFerret||09:26:42|08/19/2013|Over and above the praise for this one %28it%27s great%2C really great%29 I really need to point out an interesting little linguistic oddity. %0D%0A%0D%0A%27Bogan%27 is pretty much Australia%27s term for what you%27d call rednecks in the US. I don%27t know exactly how the term originated but it%27s really widely used%2C to the point where the national broadcaster just last week launched a sitcom called %27Upper Middle Bogan%27.%0D%0A%0D%0ASo all the time this little kid is running around being a Good Bloke%2C all I can think is %22I bet he barracks for Collingwood%22. 26|2|22|||||RE%3A Le Droit du Dragon|mdg1||11:24:31|08/19/2013|Even weirder%3F It%27s the ancient name for the DARK SIDE OF THE FORCE. 27|2|22|||1||RE%3A Le Droit du Dragon|Gryphon||11:49:53|08/19/2013|%3E%27Bogan%27 is pretty much Australia%27s term for what you%27d call rednecks %0D%0A%3Ein the US.%0D%0A%0D%0AOh%2C that%27s not a coincidence%2C I assure you. %3A%29%0D%0A%0D%0A--G.%0D%0A-%3E%3C-%0D%0ABenjamin D. Hutchins%2C Co-Founder%2C Editor-in-Chief%2C %26 Forum Mod%0D%0AEyrie Productions%2C Unlimited http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eyrie-productions.com%2F%0D%0Azgryphon at that email service Google has%0D%0A%5Bi%5DCeterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam.%5B%2Fi%5D 32|3|27|||||RE%3A Le Droit du Dragon|BeardedFerret||02:24:55|08/21/2013|%3E%3E%27Bogan%27 is pretty much Australia%27s term for what you%27d call rednecks %0D%0A%3E%3Ein the US.%0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3EOh%2C that%27s not a coincidence%2C I assure you. %3A%29 %0D%0A%0D%0AMaaaaaaaate%2C noice.%0D%0A%0D%0ABonus related content%21 http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DqA8gJoT5yl4