54||0|5644|5| 0|0|0|||1||%28OOTR-17%29 Cantata for Warships in D|Gryphon||17:05:27|09/06/2015|Formerly the Untitled Thing. No last-minute teaser%2C there%27s actually nothing else in here that I wouldn%27t rather have the reader see for the first time in the actual release. Instead%2C I%27ll just say that it%27s nearly finished and will probably be out tomorrow.%0D%0A%0D%0A--G.%0D%0A-%3E%3C-%0D%0ABenjamin D. Hutchins%2C Co-Founder%2C Editor-in-Chief%2C %26 Forum Mod%0D%0AEyrie Productions%2C Unlimited http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eyrie-productions.com%2F%0D%0Azgryphon at that email service Google has%0D%0A%5Bi%5DCeterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam.%5B%2Fi%5D 1|1|0|||1||RE%3A %28OOTR-17%29 Cantata for Warships in D|Verbena||21:56:07|09/06/2015|Yay%21 Looking forward to it. %3D%29%0D%0A%0D%0AIt%27s called Labor Day%2C I%27m convinced%2C because I always have to work during it. So a new story would be quite welcome.%0D%0A%0D%0A------%0D%0A Fearless creatures%2C we all learn to fight the Reaper%0D%0A Can%27t defeat Her%2C so instead I%27ll have to be Her 4|2|1|||1||RE%3A %28OOTR-17%29 Cantata for Warships in D|Gryphon||19:51:37|09/07/2015|[updated:LAST EDITED ON Sep-07-15 AT 07:53 PM (EDT)]%3ESo a new story would be quite welcome.%0D%0A%0D%0AWell%2C %5Blink%3Awww.eyrie-productions.com%2FUF%2FFI%2FOOTR%2FTXT%2F17-warships.html%7Cthere you go%2C then.%5D%0D%0A%0D%0ANo audio today%3B it%27s too hot to record %28the AC makes too much noise%29. It might not be ready until Friday%2C depending on how busy the next couple-three days are.%0D%0A%0D%0A--G.%0D%0A-%3E%3C-%0D%0ABenjamin D. Hutchins%2C Co-Founder%2C Editor-in-Chief%2C %26 Forum Mod%0D%0AEyrie Productions%2C Unlimited http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eyrie-productions.com%2F%0D%0Azgryphon at that email service Google has%0D%0A%5Bi%5DCeterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam.%5B%2Fi%5D 27|2|1|||||RE%3A %28OOTR-17%29 Cantata for Warships in D|TsukaiStarburst||02:28:44|09/09/2015|Just out of curiosity. Is it going to be addressed that we have two entirely separate origin stories for Kantai Collection now%2C in both OWaW and the Symphony%2C or is it not really an issue since they%27re not going to be meeting each other any time soon%3F 31|3|27|||1||RE%3A %28OOTR-17%29 Cantata for Warships in D|Gryphon||07:50:35|09/09/2015|%3EJust out of curiosity. Is it going to be addressed that we have two %0D%0A%3Eentirely separate origin stories for Kantai Collection now%2C in both %0D%0A%3EOWaW and the Symphony%2C or is it not really an issue since they%27re not %0D%0A%3Egoing to be meeting each other any time soon%3F %0D%0A%0D%0AWouldn%27t be a particular issue if they did%2C really. As a wise woman once said%2C parallel universes - it happens...%0D%0A%0D%0A--G.%0D%0A-%3E%3C-%0D%0ABenjamin D. Hutchins%2C Co-Founder%2C Editor-in-Chief%2C %26 Forum Mod%0D%0AEyrie Productions%2C Unlimited http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eyrie-productions.com%2F%0D%0Azgryphon at that email service Google has%0D%0A%5Bi%5DCeterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam.%5B%2Fi%5D 2|1|0|||||RE%3A %28OOTR-17%29 Cantata for Warships in D|TheOtherSean||00:54:25|09/07/2015|Awesome sauce%21 That%27s the best news I%27ve heard today.%0D%0A%0D%0A%3EFormerly the Untitled Thing. No last-minute teaser%2C there%27s actually %0D%0A%3Enothing else in here that I wouldn%27t rather have the reader see for %0D%0A%3Ethe first time in the actual release. Instead%2C I%27ll just say that %0D%0A%3Eit%27s nearly finished and will probably be out tomorrow. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3E--G. %0D%0A 5|1|0|||||RE%3A %28OOTR-17%29 Cantata for Warships in D|Bakuryu_Hitsuri||20:55:30|09/07/2015|I have but one thing to say.%0D%0A%0D%0ADamn well done Sir.%0D%0A%0D%0AAlso%2C you would hope now that Earth Force %28and the Psi Corps%29 would learn %22Don%27t piss off Corwin.%22%0D%0A%0D%0ASomehow%2C I don%27t think that will ever sink in though. 6|2|5|||1||RE%3A %28OOTR-17%29 Cantata for Warships in D|BobSchroeck||21:42:54|09/07/2015|%3EI have but one thing to say. %0D%0A%3EDamn well done Sir. %0D%0A%0D%0ASeconded%21%0D%0A%0D%0A%3EAlso%2C you would hope now that Earth Force %28and the Psi Corps%29 would %0D%0A%3Elearn %22Don%27t piss off Corwin.%22 %0D%0A%3ESomehow%2C I don%27t think that will ever sink in though. %0D%0A%0D%0AThey%27re too arrogant and convinced that they are the top of the food chain regardless of any evidence to the contrary. More than that%2C I suspect that far too many have their entire self-images built around their false assumptions of godlike superiority%2C and will do and believe anything to avoid facing the truth.%0D%0A%0D%0A-- Bob%0D%0A-------------------%0D%0AMy race is pacifist and does not believe in war. We kill only out of personal spite. 8|3|6|||||RE%3A %28OOTR-17%29 Cantata for Warships in D|TheOtherSean||23:46:47|09/07/2015|It is so unfortunate for them that in this case%2C their %2Aopponent%2A actually %2Adoes%2A possess godlike powers. You can hear me playing the galaxy%27s tiniest violin for them. %3A%29%0D%0A%0D%0A%3EMore than that%2C I %0D%0A%3Esuspect that far too many have their entire self-images built around %0D%0A%3Etheir false assumptions of godlike superiority%2C and will do and %0D%0A%3Ebelieve anything to avoid facing the truth. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3E-- Bob %0D%0A 9|3|6|||1||RE%3A %28OOTR-17%29 Cantata for Warships in D|Verbena||23:49:54|09/07/2015|%3E%3EI have but one thing to say. %0D%0A%3E%3EDamn well done Sir. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3ESeconded%21 %0D%0A%0D%0AI enjoyed the hell out of this one%2C too. Clearly%2C the online games you%27ve been playing%2C Gryphon%2C were by way of research%21 %28Enemy cruiser foundered%21%29 XD%0D%0A%0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3E%3EAlso%2C you would hope now that Earth Force %28and the Psi Corps%29 would %0D%0A%3E%3Elearn %22Don%27t piss off Corwin.%22 %0D%0A%3E%3ESomehow%2C I don%27t think that will ever sink in though. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3EThey%27re too arrogant and convinced that they are the top of the food %0D%0A%3Echain regardless of any evidence to the contrary. More than that%2C I %0D%0A%3Esuspect that far too many have their entire self-images built around %0D%0A%3Etheir false assumptions of godlike superiority%2C and will do and %0D%0A%3Ebelieve anything to avoid facing the truth. %0D%0A%0D%0AIt%27s actually more than that%2C I believe. I%27m pretty sure some of the Psi Corps stories implied%2C if they didn%27t say outright%2C that the Psi Corps culture is very intentionally designed to compel its members into believing they%27re a superior race. That%27s what the people running it presumably believed themselves%2C of course%2C and indoctrination and programming is not just common but standard procedure there. They really DO believe they%27re the best%2C which serves them pretty well when subjugating masses and makes them horribly unprepared when facing true elite soldiers.%0D%0A%0D%0AMuch like the emotional devastation and despair the Nazis and citizens in Germany itself%2C who I believe were largely kept out of the loop on the real progress of the war%2C must have felt when the Americans%2C British%2C etc. on the west and the Russians on the east finally showed. %28I am not an expert on WW2%2C mind you%2C but ISTR their losses weren%27t exactly in the papers.%29%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A------%0D%0A Fearless creatures%2C we all learn to fight the Reaper%0D%0A Can%27t defeat Her%2C so instead I%27ll have to be Her 7|1|0|||||RE%3A %28OOTR-17%29 Cantata for Warships in D|Droken||23:13:06|09/07/2015|That. Was. -EPIC-.%0D%0A%0D%0AReviving %5Bi%5DI-401%5B%2Fi%5D entirely by accident%3F Not-very-well-executed retreat and evade%3F Inadvertently dropping the %22I am your God%21%22 on to a whole -host- of unexpected %5Bi%5DFog%5B%2Fi%5D ships%3F%0D%0A%0D%0AYou were right%2C Gryph%3B Corwin was well and truly off his game. For good reason%2C and entirely understandably%3B but certainly off his game%3B at least for the first half.%0D%0A%0D%0ABut this was still -phenomenally- enjoyable. I got as far as this%3A%0D%0A%3E%3EThere were six of them that he could see%3A the carrier%2C the battleship%2C and%0D%0A%3E%3Efour much smaller vessels%2C each all but identical to the other three.%0D%0A%0D%0Aand realized -precisely- who those %22four smaller vessels%22 must be. I didn%27t stop grinning from there.%0D%0A%0D%0AI think what I like most about this piece%2C is how expertly the %5Bi%5DKanColle%5B%2Fi%5D and %5Bi%5DArpeggio%5B%2Fi%5D aspects dove-tail together. The Fleet Girls used meshed perfectly with the idea of %5Bi%5DFog%5B%2Fi%5D ships figuring out this whole %22Mental Model%22 thing%2C and having seen both series I was able to very clearly hear each one. Kudos on that once again%21%0D%0A%0D%0ASeeing the ripple effects of this as it continues to play out are going to be spectacular. 10|1|0|||||RE%3A %28OOTR-17%29 Cantata for Warships in D|TsukaiStarburst||03:47:40|09/08/2015|My god.%0D%0A%0D%0AI%27ve very nearly finished reading- don%27t have time to do the whole shebang in one sitting%2C but just.... god%2C I love it the most when this kind of thing happens.%0D%0A%0D%0AWhen Corwin gets to do the whole god thing and yet never quite gets it right%2C bumbling into the most spectacular situations imaginable by dint of... well%2C never quite getting ANYTHING exactly right.%0D%0A%0D%0AAdd in the perfect music %28is there a part of eyrie stories I love more than the soundtracking%3F%29 and this is like... the perfect birthday present.%0D%0A%0D%0AAnd DesDevSix is here%2C which automatically means it%27s perfect. Long live DesDevSix%2C nanodesu.%0D%0A%0D%0AHee hee%2C does this make Iona and Shioi twin sisters%3F I do have to admit%2C I%27m still not entire sure how all of this works- at first%2C I thought that the girls were simultaneously ghosts of their old selves given structure by the Fog technology%2C but I%27m still not entirely sure where the Arpeggio ends and the Kancolle begins. %0D%0A%0D%0AI%27ll finish up the epic battle when I%27m back from RL. Going to the pool myself%2C ironically. 11|1|0|||1||RE%3A %28OOTR-17%29 Cantata for Warships in D|Nova Floresca||08:21:10|09/08/2015|First off- wow%2C what a show%21 Very%2C very fun read%2C and proof once again of the superiority of having someone who cares about what she%27s doing over a zombie minion.%0D%0A%0D%0ACouple of questions that popped into my head while reading it%2C if I may%3A%0D%0A-What%27s the disposition of Thanatonium in the UF-verse%3F Is the Midway Fleet%27s stockpile of corrosive torpedoes all there is %28and if so%2C would that spur anyone to do anything stupid to try and get some of them%29%2C or is it a known element of whatever difficulty to get hold of%3F%0D%0A%0D%0A-I noticed the %22Project Warlock%22 callout for the hybrid-Fog ships Earthforce was using%2C and looking at it%2C the way the Fleet of Fog seems to have left behind tools and examples of how to construct their vessels for whoever goes looking to find them does sorta sound like the Shadows%27 MO. Is this actually a connection%2C or am I reading too much into it%3F%0D%0A%0D%0A%22This is probably a stupid question%2C but . . .%22 15|2|11|||1||RE%3A %28OOTR-17%29 Cantata for Warships in D|Gryphon||19:03:13|09/08/2015|%3E-What%27s the disposition of Thanatonium in the UF-verse%3F Is the Midway %0D%0A%3EFleet%27s stockpile of corrosive torpedoes all there is %28and if so%2C %0D%0A%3Ewould that spur anyone to do anything stupid to try and get some of %0D%0A%3Ethem%29%2C or is it a known element of whatever difficulty to get hold of%3F %0D%0A%0D%0AFrom what little can be gleaned from the source%2C it seems to be your standard sci-fi wonder element%2C like unobtanium%2C %22element zero%22 in %5Bi%5DMass Effect%5B%2Fi%5D%2C and so forth - a known material%2C but exotic and hard to work with. We know it can be synthesized by magic%2C since Shioi had both a TD reactor and three corrosive torpedoes aboard%2C and before Corwin did his thing she was a wrecked 20th-century submarine%2C not a Fog vessel at all. %28Incidentally%2C she %5Bi%5Dhad%5B%2Fi%5D three because Iona had that many in her Last Known Good configuration%3B she had four left when she went to D%26igrave%3Bqi%26uacute%3B and then used one on the wall at Fort Tonraq.%29%0D%0A%0D%0AFor our purposes%2C I figure it%27s something that the Fog have the technology to make%2C but not something most individual Fog ships can make for %5Bi%5Dthemselves%5B%2Fi%5D %28thus making most if not all of the fleet dependent on bases like Midway for refueling and resupply%29. Most likely Akashi has the means to create more of it somewhere in her %5Bs%5Dbag%5B%2Fs%5Dcargo hold of tricks.%0D%0A%0D%0A%28It can also evidently be %5Bi%5Dde%5B%2Fi%5D-synthesized by magic%2C since Corwin wouldn%27t have left a mass of radioactive material lying at the bottom of Qurluqtuq Fjord%2C however off his game he was. %3A%29%0D%0A%0D%0A%3E-I noticed the %22Project Warlock%22 callout for the hybrid-Fog ships %0D%0A%3EEarthforce was using%2C and looking at it%2C the way the Fleet of Fog %0D%0A%3Eseems to have left behind tools and examples of how to construct their %0D%0A%3Evessels for whoever goes looking to find them does sorta sound like %0D%0A%3Ethe Shadows%27 MO. Is this actually a connection%2C or am I reading too %0D%0A%3Emuch into it%3F %0D%0A%0D%0AWell%2C the hybrid ships being a product of something called %22Project Warlock%22 is certainly a %5Bi%5DBabylon 5%5B%2Fi%5D reference at least in part %28it%27s also a nod toward the WARLOCK in %5Bi%5DStrike Witches%5B%2Fi%5D%2C which was based in a similarly bad idea%29. Beyond that%2C though%2C you%27re off-course%3B the %5Bi%5DWarlock%5B%2Fi%5D-class ships are a product of %28rather ham-fisted%29 EF reverse engineering%2C not products of the Fog leaving how-to hints around.%0D%0A%0D%0A--G.%0D%0A-%3E%3C-%0D%0ABenjamin D. Hutchins%2C Co-Founder%2C Editor-in-Chief%2C %26 Forum Mod%0D%0AEyrie Productions%2C Unlimited http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eyrie-productions.com%2F%0D%0Azgryphon at that email service Google has%0D%0A%5Bi%5DCeterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam.%5B%2Fi%5D 19|3|15|||1||RE%3A %28OOTR-17%29 Cantata for Warships in D|Nova Floresca||22:04:20|09/08/2015|%3E%3E-I noticed the %22Project Warlock%22 callout for the hybrid-Fog ships %0D%0A%3E%3EEarthforce was using%2C and looking at it%2C the way the Fleet of Fog %0D%0A%3E%3Eseems to have left behind tools and examples of how to construct their %0D%0A%3E%3Evessels for whoever goes looking to find them does sorta sound like %0D%0A%3E%3Ethe Shadows%27 MO. Is this actually a connection%2C or am I reading too %0D%0A%3E%3Emuch into it%3F %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3EWell%2C the hybrid ships being a product of something called %22Project %0D%0A%3EWarlock%22 is certainly a %5Bi%5DBabylon 5%5B%2Fi%5D reference at least in part %0D%0A%3E%28it%27s also a nod toward the WARLOCK in %5Bi%5DStrike Witches%5B%2Fi%5D%2C which %0D%0A%3Ewas based in a similarly bad idea%29. Beyond that%2C though%2C you%27re %0D%0A%3Eoff-course%3B the %5Bi%5DWarlock%5B%2Fi%5D-class ships are a product of %28rather %0D%0A%3Eham-fisted%29 EF reverse engineering%2C not products of the Fog leaving %0D%0A%3Ehow-to hints around. %0D%0A%0D%0AAhh%2C my bad- I was referring to the Midway Island base itself%3B with the way everybody was shut down%2C it looked like if anybody had found it%2C they could have simply clapped their hands and had a full squadron of Fog warships to do their bidding%2C plus the graving docks and the knowledge and supplies to put it to use.%0D%0A%0D%0A%22This is probably a stupid question%2C but . . .%22 20|4|19|||1||RE%3A %28OOTR-17%29 Cantata for Warships in D|Gryphon||22:12:47|09/08/2015|%3EAhh%2C my bad- I was referring to the Midway Island base itself%3B with %0D%0A%3Ethe way everybody was shut down%2C it looked like if anybody had found %0D%0A%3Eit%2C they could have simply clapped their hands and had a full squadron %0D%0A%3Eof Fog warships to do their bidding%2C plus the graving docks and the %0D%0A%3Eknowledge and supplies to put it to use.%0D%0A%0D%0APossible%2C but I think it unlikely that Fleet Coordinator %5Bi%5DNagato%5B%2Fi%5D %28the ship responsible for leaving the Midway Detachment there%2C mentioned by Kaga as the source of her last known orders%29 anticipated the absence of the Admiralty Code. More probable that the station %28and the one elsewhere that %5Bi%5DKong%26%23333%3B%5B%2Fi%5D et al. came from%29 were intended as some sort of contingency measure. To what end is difficult to speculate about%2C since we don%27t know why the Fog abandoned the original offensive and left Earth to begin with. Most of those left behind have suffered memory loss%2C and it appears those who haven%27t %28like %5Bi%5DLionfish%5B%2Fi%5D%29 were never told in the first place. The Big Seven were not in the habit of explaining themselves to lesser ships even %5Bi%5Dbefore%5B%2Fi%5D the invention of Mental Models.%0D%0A%0D%0A--G.%0D%0A-%3E%3C-%0D%0ABenjamin D. Hutchins%2C Co-Founder%2C Editor-in-Chief%2C %26 Forum Mod%0D%0AEyrie Productions%2C Unlimited http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eyrie-productions.com%2F%0D%0Azgryphon at that email service Google has%0D%0A%5Bi%5DCeterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam.%5B%2Fi%5D 12|1|0|||||RE%3A %28OOTR-17%29 Cantata for Warships in D|zwol||14:50:33|09/08/2015|That was a lot of fun to read. I wasn%27t expecting the next installment of OOTR to be %5Bi%5Dall%5B%2Fi%5D Corwin and the Fog%2C but it worked out pretty neatly anyway. %0D%0A%0D%0AI also wouldn%27t have expected Corwin to pick this as his first move after TBS%3B I guess he saw getting Iona a replacement ship-body as a concrete thing he knew how to tackle%2C and therefore %5Bi%5Dsomething%5B%2Fi%5D to do next%2C even if it wasn%27t necessarily the strategically optimal thing to do next. %28It may have %5Bi%5Dturned out%5B%2Fi%5D to be the strategically optimal thing%2C I mean%2C now he%27s got an entire mini-fleet of Fog ships on his side%2C but he couldn%27t have known that was going to happen even if he was fully on his game.%29%0D%0A%0D%0AIt%27s interesting that no one discovered the Midway base in four hundred-odd years. Earthforce and%2For Black Omega clearly have %5Bi%5Dsome%5B%2Fi%5D line on leftover bits of the fleet %28it seems like Kong%C5%8D didn%27t know about it%2C which is curious in itself since she was presumably constructed there%2C but still%29 and there%27s surely been no shortage of treasure hunters and so on%2C in between the end of the Fog War and the present day.%0D%0A%0D%0AOn a more meta note%2C having gotten this finished%2C do you have any comments on why it was difficult to write%3F That you feel comfortable sharing with the peanut gallery%2C I mean. I don%27t want to pry%2C but I like hearing about people%27s writing process. 13|2|12|||1||RE%3A %28OOTR-17%29 Cantata for Warships in D|Peter Eng||15:57:23|09/08/2015|%3E%0D%0A%3EIt%27s interesting that no one discovered the Midway base in four %0D%0A%3Ehundred-odd years. Earthforce and%2For Black Omega clearly have %0D%0A%3E%5Bi%5Dsome%5B%2Fi%5D line on leftover bits of the fleet %28it seems like Kong%C5%8D %0D%0A%3Edidn%27t know about it%2C which is curious in itself since she was %0D%0A%3Epresumably constructed there%2C but still%29 and there%27s surely been no %0D%0A%3Eshortage of treasure hunters and so on%2C in between the end of the Fog %0D%0A%3EWar and the present day. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%0D%0AGiven the memory loss that the other ships suffered%2C Kong%C5%8D might have had a similar problem%2C so she wouldn%27t remember where she was constructed. It%27s also possible that she was constructed elsewhere.%0D%0A%0D%0AAs for treasure hunters%2C what reason would they have to search there%3F Fog stealth systems are probably more than capable of hiding the fact that the entire island is hollow%2C even against 24th-century technology%2C and it%27s likely that nobody would bother scanning them anyhow.%0D%0A%0D%0APeter Eng%0D%0A--%0D%0AInsert humorous comment here. 14|3|13|||1||RE%3A %28OOTR-17%29 Cantata for Warships in D|SpottedKitty||17:58:36|09/08/2015|%3EGiven the memory loss that the other ships suffered%2C Kong%C5%8D might have %0D%0A%3Ehad a similar problem%2C so she wouldn%27t remember where she was %0D%0A%3Econstructed.%0D%0A%0D%0A%3Cnod%3E I haven%27t had a second read-through yet%2C but it sounded like the loss was so complete they%27d all forgotten that they%27d forgotten %E2%80%94 until someone tried to pop a what-do-I-do-next Order from her stack. %0D%0A%0D%0A-- %0D%0AUnable to save the day%3A File is read-only. 16|2|12|||1||RE%3A %28OOTR-17%29 Cantata for Warships in D|Gryphon||19:15:05|09/08/2015|%3EI wasn%27t expecting the next %0D%0A%3Einstallment of OOTR to be %5Bi%5Dall%5B%2Fi%5D Corwin and the Fog%2C but it worked %0D%0A%3Eout pretty neatly anyway. %0D%0A%0D%0AYeah%2C well%2C funny story%2C neither was I. %3A%29%0D%0A%0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3EI also wouldn%27t have expected Corwin to pick this as his first move %0D%0A%3Eafter TBS%3B I guess he saw getting Iona a replacement ship-body as a %0D%0A%3Econcrete thing he knew how to tackle%2C and therefore %5Bi%5Dsomething%5B%2Fi%5D %0D%0A%3Eto do next%2C even if it wasn%27t necessarily the strategically optimal %0D%0A%3Ething to do next.%0D%0A%0D%0APretty much%2C yeah. If you can%27t be doing what you need to be doing%2C at least be doing %5Bi%5Dsomething%5B%2Fi%5D.%0D%0A%0D%0A%3EIt%27s interesting that no one discovered the Midway base in four %0D%0A%3Ehundred-odd years.%0D%0A%0D%0ABeyond its historical significance from WWII and its occasional use as an emergency airfield for trans-Pacific airliners in distress%2C Midway Atoll is not the focus of much interest in the world %5Bi%5Dtoday%5B%2Fi%5D%2C let alone in the 25th century. Nobody lives there since the US armed forces abandoned it in the %2790s%2C and nowadays it doesn%27t even get camping naturalists much any more.%0D%0A%0D%0A%3E%28it seems like Kong%C5%8D %0D%0A%3Edidn%27t know about it%2C which is curious in itself since she was %0D%0A%3Epresumably constructed there%2C but still%29%0D%0A%0D%0AKong%26%23333%3B has... problems. We%27ll get into that more later.%0D%0A%0D%0A%3EOn a more meta note%2C having gotten this finished%2C do you have any %0D%0A%3Ecomments on why it was difficult to write%3F%0D%0A%0D%0AOh%2C a combination of reasons%2C not all %28or even most%29 of which have anything to do with the story itself. In no particular order%3A%0D%0A%0D%0A - I%27ve been ill with one thing or another in a more-or-less serial fashion since early August. Not %5Bi%5Ddeathly%5B%2Fi%5D ill or anything%2C but feeling poorly enough that it%27s hampered my concentration somewhat.%0D%0A%0D%0A - Plus%2C I just generally get lazy in August.%0D%0A%0D%0A - This story got a lot larger than it was originally supposed to be. The original conception was basically just a cute mini based on the scene where Shioi and Iona blink in bemusement at each other and Corwin facepalms at himself. The rest of the fleet and the big overarching storyline involving them%2C which is likely to upset %28or at least prompt significant rearrangements of%29 more than one applecart in re the rest of the plan for OOTR%2C just sort of... %5Bi%5Dcame along%5B%2Fi%5D%2C and for a while I was really kind of at a loss as to what to %5Bi%5Ddo%5B%2Fi%5D with it.%0D%0A%0D%0A - I sometimes get into situations where more than one creative wave function%2C if you like%2C are in phase with each other%2C and I%27ve got enough things I want to be working on that I almost %5Bi%5Dcan%27t%5B%2Fi%5D work on any one of them. In this case that was basically this%2C OWaW%2C and the next phase of TFLF%2C as well as what I %5Bi%5Dthought%5B%2Fi%5D was going to be the next OOTR installment. %28You%27ll note that this one still isn%27t a Movement%2C even after its unexpected radical growth%2C because the rest of the main cast is barely if at all involved.%29 By rights I %5Bi%5Dshould%5B%2Fi%5D have at least established the immediate aftermath of %5Bi%5DTaken%5B%2Fi%5D first%2C since I%27m now going to have to go back to %5Bi%5Dbefore%5B%2Fi%5D this story and backfill some of it at the top of the next full Movement. But it is what it is.%0D%0A%0D%0A - %5Bi%5DElite Dangerous%5B%2Fi%5D.%0D%0A%0D%0A--G.%0D%0A-%3E%3C-%0D%0ABenjamin D. Hutchins%2C Co-Founder%2C Editor-in-Chief%2C %26 Forum Mod%0D%0AEyrie Productions%2C Unlimited http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eyrie-productions.com%2F%0D%0Azgryphon at that email service Google has%0D%0A%5Bi%5DCeterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam.%5B%2Fi%5D 17|1|0|||||RE%3A %28OOTR-17%29 Cantata for Warships in D|DaPatman89||20:43:36|09/08/2015|While reading this%2C I couldn%27t help but notice the various %22like father%2C like son%22 moments Corwin was having%2C even if he wasn%27t aware of them%2A%2C or the fact that his moments were more impressive than his father%27s %28based on the number of women sharing his bed at the end%29.%0D%0A%0D%0AGood description of the battle%2C BTW. I had a pretty good idea of what was going on where%2C despite the fact that everything I know about naval combat I learned playing %5Bi%5DAdvance Wars%5B%2Fi%5D and its sequels. I can%27t help but feel that gave me an incomplete picture at best. %3B%29%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bfont size%3D%220%22%5D%2A Which I assume he wasn%27t%2C given the situation%2C and the fact that it%27s Corwin we%27re talking about here.%5B%2Ffont%5D 18|2|17|||1||RE%3A %28OOTR-17%29 Cantata for Warships in D|Gryphon||21:02:25|09/08/2015|%3EWhile reading this%2C I couldn%27t help but notice the various %22like %0D%0A%3Efather%2C like son%22 moments Corwin was having%2C even if he wasn%27t aware %0D%0A%3Eof them%2A%2C or the fact that his moments were more impressive than his %0D%0A%3Efather%27s %28based on the number of women sharing his bed at the end%29. %0D%0A%0D%0AAs it happens%2C he almost certainly wasn%27t aware of %5Bi%5Dthat%5B%2Fi%5D one%2C since it took everything he had left on board to supervise squaring the fleet away after the jump to Zipang%2C then give directions to the nearest open-sea Veil nexus and thence that island. He probably fell asleep on the bridge. At which point Iona took it upon herself to put him properly to bed%3B Shioi went along To Help Out%3B Destroyer Division 6 declared themselves his Security Detail%3B Tenry%26%23363%3B%2C well%2C Tenry%26%23363%3B isn%27t sure exactly why she tagged along%3B and Tatsuta%27s newly-minted Mental Model couldn%27t think of anything else to do other than follow Tenry%26%23363%3B.%0D%0A%0D%0A%28Kaga probably would%27ve pulled rank and replaced at least one of them%2C but%2C dignity of the First Carrier Division and all that. One expects she could certainly %5Bi%5Duse%5B%2Fi%5D a nap after all that.%29%0D%0A%0D%0ACorwin will be doubly bemused when he wakes up%3B once to discover that he has an entourage%2C and then again to realize that Utena%27s sitting over in that chair Iona was in earlier%2C regarding the scene and his reaction to it with evident amusement.%0D%0A%0D%0A--G.%0D%0A%5Bfont size%3D%221%22%5D%22I can - actually%2C I can%27t explain%2C I have no idea how this happened.%22 %22I figured.%22%5B%2Ffont%5D%0D%0A-%3E%3C-%0D%0ABenjamin D. Hutchins%2C Co-Founder%2C Editor-in-Chief%2C %26 Forum Mod%0D%0AEyrie Productions%2C Unlimited http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eyrie-productions.com%2F%0D%0Azgryphon at that email service Google has%0D%0A%5Bi%5DCeterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam.%5B%2Fi%5D 28|3|18|||1||RE%3A %28OOTR-17%29 Cantata for Warships in D|Peter Eng||03:01:40|09/09/2015|%3E%0D%0A%3ECorwin will be doubly bemused when he wakes up%3B once to discover that %0D%0A%3Ehe has an entourage%2C and then again to realize that Utena%27s sitting %0D%0A%3Eover in that chair Iona was in earlier%2C regarding the scene and his %0D%0A%3Ereaction to it with evident amusement. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%0D%0A%22Why are you reading that%3F%22%0D%0A%22I had to do %5Bi%5Dsomething%5B%2Fi%5D while I waited for you to wake up.%22%0D%0A%0D%0APeter Eng%0D%0A--%0D%0AInsert humorous comment here. 29|3|18|||||RE%3A %28OOTR-17%29 Cantata for Warships in D|drakensis||03:24:54|09/09/2015|DesDivSix now have an important matter to investigate of course.%0D%0A%0D%0ACorwin is an %28their%29 Admiral.%0D%0AHis wife Utena %28pink-hair%21%29 is a Commodore.%0D%0ABut what rank is _her_ wife%3F%0D%0AEnquiring minds want to know.%0D%0A%0D%0A%28%22I%27m a witch%2C dear.%22 %22mumble-mumble how does that fit into a rank chart%3F%22 %22Sort of off to the side.%22 %22How does that work%21%3F nanodesu%22 %22Very well%2C thank you.%22%29 34|4|29|||1||RE%3A %28OOTR-17%29 Cantata for Warships in D|ebony14||11:07:56|09/09/2015|%3EDesDivSix now have an important matter to investigate of course. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3ECorwin is an %28their%29 Admiral. %0D%0A%3EHis wife Utena %28pink-hair%21%29 is a Commodore. %0D%0A%3EBut what rank is _her_ wife%3F %0D%0A%3EEnquiring minds want to know. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3E%28%22I%27m a witch%2C dear.%22 %22mumble-mumble how does that fit into a rank %0D%0A%3Echart%3F%22 %22Sort of off to the side.%22 %22How does that work%21%3F nanodesu%22 %0D%0A%3E%22Very well%2C thank you.%22%29 %0D%0A%0D%0AWell%2C she %5Bb%5Dis%5B%2Fb%5D the Priestess of Cephiro%2C which makes her the Chief of Chaplains%2C of a sort. The current Chief of Chaplains of the US Navy is a Rear Admiral. That seems a fair assessment of Anthy%27s influence. %3A%29%0D%0A%0D%0AEbony the Black Dragon%0D%0A%0D%0A%22Life is like an anole. Sometimes it%27s green. Sometimes it%27s brown. But it%27s always a small Caribbean lizard.%22 33|3|18|||||RE%3A %28OOTR-17%29 Cantata for Warships in D|Meagen||10:48:42|09/09/2015|%3E%3EWhile reading this%2C I couldn%27t help but notice the various %22like %0D%0A%3E%3Efather%2C like son%22 moments Corwin was having%2C even if he wasn%27t aware %0D%0A%3E%3Eof them%2A%2C or the fact that his moments were more impressive than his %0D%0A%3E%3Efather%27s %28based on the number of women sharing his bed at the end%29. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3ECorwin will be doubly bemused when he wakes up%3B once to discover that %0D%0A%3Ehe has an entourage%2C and then again to realize that Utena%27s sitting %0D%0A%3Eover in that chair Iona was in earlier%2C regarding the scene and his %0D%0A%3Ereaction to it with evident amusement. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3E--G. %0D%0A%3E%5Bfont size%3D%221%22%5D%22I can - actually%2C I can%27t explain%2C I have no idea how %0D%0A%3Ethis happened.%22 %22I figured.%22%5B%2Ffont%5D %0D%0A%0D%0AI think my signiature is appropriate in this context. 21|1|0|||||RE%3A %28OOTR-17%29 Cantata for Warships in D|TheOtherSean||23:34:01|09/08/2015|I greatly enjoyed the story. In some ways%2C the Corwin in this story is something of a throwback. He hasn%27t blundering like this isn%27t something we%27ve seen since his early awkwardness with Utena. OTOH%2C he has darn good reason to be off his game. He seems to be getting over the worst of it by the end of the story.%0D%0A%0D%0AHopefully his new flotilla will be of assistance against Akio. There%27s little that would be more fitting that Akio%27s casual disregard for Iona%27s fate causing additional complications for the evil bastard.%0D%0A%0D%0AJust curious%3A From what I%27m reading%2C the Fog ships in the UF-verse are starships as well as being able to act as wet navy ships%2C right%3F 22|2|21|||1||RE%3A %28OOTR-17%29 Cantata for Warships in D|Gryphon||23:55:03|09/08/2015|%3EJust curious%3A From what I%27m reading%2C the Fog ships in the UF-verse are %0D%0A%3Estarships as well as being able to act as wet navy ships%2C right%3F %0D%0A%0D%0AIt may actually be the other way around.%0D%0A%0D%0A--G.%0D%0A-%3E%3C-%0D%0ABenjamin D. Hutchins%2C Co-Founder%2C Editor-in-Chief%2C %26 Forum Mod%0D%0AEyrie Productions%2C Unlimited http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eyrie-productions.com%2F%0D%0Azgryphon at that email service Google has%0D%0A%5Bi%5DCeterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam.%5B%2Fi%5D 23|3|22|||||RE%3A %28OOTR-17%29 Cantata for Warships in D|TheOtherSean||00:10:59|09/09/2015|%3E%3EJust curious%3A From what I%27m reading%2C the Fog ships in the UF-verse are %0D%0A%3E%3Estarships as well as being able to act as wet navy ships%2C right%3F %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3EIt may actually be the other way around. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3E--G. %0D%0A%0D%0AI see. But that still means Corwin now has a space battleship %5Bi%5DYamato%5B%2Fi%5D%2C doesn%27t it%3F 24|4|23|||1||RE%3A %28OOTR-17%29 Cantata for Warships in D|Gryphon||00:27:51|09/09/2015|%3EI see. But that still means Corwin now has a space battleship %0D%0A%3E%5Bi%5DYamato%5B%2Fi%5D%2C doesn%27t it%3F %0D%0A%0D%0AIt%27s true%21 Not to be confused with the one operated by the WDF%2C which is a Salusian-built %5Bi%5DArgo%5B%2Fi%5D-class dreadnought%2C or the one operated by Starfleet%2C which is a %5Bi%5DGalaxy%5B%2Fi%5D-class... well%2C officially %22long-range explorer%22%2C but%2C c%27mon.%0D%0A%0D%0A--G.%0D%0A-%3E%3C-%0D%0ABenjamin D. Hutchins%2C Co-Founder%2C Editor-in-Chief%2C %26 Forum Mod%0D%0AEyrie Productions%2C Unlimited http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eyrie-productions.com%2F%0D%0Azgryphon at that email service Google has%0D%0A%5Bi%5DCeterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam.%5B%2Fi%5D 35|5|24|||1||RE%3A %28OOTR-17%29 Cantata for Warships in D|ebony14||11:10:10|09/09/2015|%3E%3EI see. But that still means Corwin now has a space battleship %0D%0A%3E%3E%5Bi%5DYamato%5B%2Fi%5D%2C doesn%27t it%3F %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3EIt%27s true%21 Not to be confused with the one operated by the WDF%2C which %0D%0A%3Eis a Salusian-built %5Bi%5DArgo%5B%2Fi%5D-class dreadnought%2C or the one operated %0D%0A%3Eby Starfleet%2C which is a %5Bi%5DGalaxy%5B%2Fi%5D-class... well%2C officially %0D%0A%3E%22long-range explorer%22%2C but%2C c%27mon. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%0D%0AI%27m sure Ikazuchi will be thrilled that there are a whole class of space cruisers named after her. %28Assuming that the Ikazuchi-class is still in use. I believe the Sterling sisters were using one%2C when last I looked.%29%0D%0A%0D%0AEbony the Black Dragon%0D%0A%0D%0A%22Life is like an anole. Sometimes it%27s green. Sometimes it%27s brown. But it%27s always a small Caribbean lizard.%22 39|6|35|||1||RE%3A %28OOTR-17%29 Cantata for Warships in D|Gryphon||12:43:42|09/09/2015|%3EI%27m sure Ikazuchi will be thrilled that there are a whole class of %0D%0A%3Espace cruisers named after her. %28Assuming that the Ikazuchi-class is %0D%0A%3Estill in use. I believe the Sterling sisters were using one%2C when last %0D%0A%3EI looked.%29 %0D%0A%0D%0AOh%2C sure. No longer in production%2C but there are quite a number of them still in service with the WDF%2C the Royal Salusian Navy%2C and others. Ash Williams%27s current command%2C the %5Bi%5DShanxi%5B%2Fi%5D%2C is also an %5Bi%5DIkazuchi%5B%2Fi%5D-class ship.%0D%0A%0D%0AIkazuchi-chan could theoretically upgrade%2C she%27d only have to obtain a detailed scan of one. And 1.4 megatons of nanomaterial.%0D%0A%0D%0A--G.%0D%0A%5Bfont size%3D%221%22%5DThe others would be really sad if she did that%2C though%2C particularly Inazuma.%5B%2Ffont%5D%0D%0A-%3E%3C-%0D%0ABenjamin D. Hutchins%2C Co-Founder%2C Editor-in-Chief%2C %26 Forum Mod%0D%0AEyrie Productions%2C Unlimited http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eyrie-productions.com%2F%0D%0Azgryphon at that email service Google has%0D%0A%5Bi%5DCeterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam.%5B%2Fi%5D 42|7|39|||1||RE%3A %28OOTR-17%29 Cantata for Warships in D|ebony14||17:13:21|09/09/2015|%3E%3EI%27m sure Ikazuchi will be thrilled that there are a whole class of %0D%0A%3E%3Espace cruisers named after her. %28Assuming that the Ikazuchi-class is %0D%0A%3E%3Estill in use. I believe the Sterling sisters were using one%2C when last %0D%0A%3E%3EI looked.%29 %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3EOh%2C sure. No longer in production%2C but there are quite a number of %0D%0A%3Ethem still in service with the WDF%2C the Royal Salusian Navy%2C and %0D%0A%3Eothers. Ash Williams%27s current command%2C the %5Bi%5DShanxi%5B%2Fi%5D%2C is also an %0D%0A%3E%5Bi%5DIkazuchi%5B%2Fi%5D-class ship. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3EIkazuchi-chan could theoretically upgrade%2C she%27d only have to obtain a %0D%0A%3Edetailed scan of one. And 1.4 megatons of nanomaterial. %0D%0A%0D%0AI didn%27t expect she would%2C but the fact that the cruisers are%2C arguably%2C named after her %28at least%2C I think they were in the original source material%29 would probably make her preen a bit. %0D%0A%0D%0AEbony the Black Dragon%0D%0A%0D%0A%22Life is like an anole. Sometimes it%27s green. Sometimes it%27s brown. But it%27s always a small Caribbean lizard.%22 50|8|42|||1||RE%3A %28OOTR-17%29 Cantata for Warships in D|Verbena||00:46:18|09/10/2015|%3E%3E%3EI%27m sure Ikazuchi will be thrilled that there are a whole class of %0D%0A%3E%3E%3Espace cruisers named after her. %28Assuming that the Ikazuchi-class is %0D%0A%3E%3E%3Estill in use. I believe the Sterling sisters were using one%2C when last %0D%0A%3E%3E%3EI looked.%29 %0D%0A%0D%0AMaia and Miranda%2C at any rate%2C in Mars Division.%0D%0A%0D%0A%3E%3E%0D%0A%3E%3EOh%2C sure. No longer in production%2C but there are quite a number of %0D%0A%3E%3Ethem still in service with the WDF%2C the Royal Salusian Navy%2C and %0D%0A%3E%3Eothers. Ash Williams%27s current command%2C the %5Bi%5DShanxi%5B%2Fi%5D%2C is also an %0D%0A%3E%3E%5Bi%5DIkazuchi%5B%2Fi%5D-class ship. %0D%0A%3E%3E%0D%0A%3E%3EIkazuchi-chan could theoretically upgrade%2C she%27d only have to obtain a %0D%0A%3E%3Edetailed scan of one. And 1.4 megatons of nanomaterial. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3EI didn%27t expect she would%2C but the fact that the cruisers are%2C %0D%0A%3Earguably%2C named after her %28at least%2C I think they were in the original %0D%0A%3Esource material%29 would probably make her preen a bit. %0D%0A%0D%0AOne of the things about Fog ships is there%27s more to them than just %2725th century weapons on disguised 20th century chassis%27. Their weapons and armor are far closer to what%27s generally available in the 25th century%2C certainly%2C but the ratio of offensive firepower to tonnage is insane%2C even by 25th century standards. Every one of them more closely resembles %5Bi%5DDaggerdisc%5B%2Fi%5D than a modern ship of the line. And their ability to reconfigure%2C repair%2C and any other nanotech advantage is a step above that. Put simply%2C if Ikazuchi-chan were to don a chassis the size of an %5Bi%5DIkazuchi%5B%2Fi%5D-class vessel %28I believe it%27s a carrier%2C primarily%29%2C what kind of weaponry would we then see%3F%0D%0A%0D%0A------%0D%0A Fearless creatures%2C we all learn to fight the Reaper%0D%0A Can%27t defeat Her%2C so instead I%27ll have to be Her 25|1|0|||1||RE%3A %28OOTR-17%29 Cantata for Warships in D|Verbena||01:07:14|09/09/2015|There%27s a very satisfying image I have now%2C with Akio%27s tower in Oriphos getting vaped by a corrosive torpedo%2C leaving an emasculated stump. A torpedo fired by an %5Bi%5Dunderage girl%5B%2Fi%5D. Symbolism I can get behind.%0D%0A%0D%0A%0D%0A------%0D%0A Fearless creatures%2C we all learn to fight the Reaper%0D%0A Can%27t defeat Her%2C so instead I%27ll have to be Her 26|2|25|||1||RE%3A %28OOTR-17%29 Cantata for Warships in D|Gryphon||01:23:54|09/09/2015|[updated:LAST EDITED ON Sep-09-15 AT 05:04 PM (EDT)]%3EThere%27s a very satisfying image I have now%2C with Akio%27s tower in %0D%0A%3EOriphos getting vaped by a corrosive torpedo%2C leaving an emasculated %0D%0A%3Estump. A torpedo fired by an %5Bi%5Dunderage girl%5B%2Fi%5D. Symbolism I can get %0D%0A%3Ebehind. %0D%0A%0D%0A%22... No. %5Blink%3Awww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D4weEXyoXZKs%7CNot without incident%5D %5Bfont size%3D%221%22%5Dnanodesu%5B%2Ffont%5D.%22%0D%0A%0D%0A--G.%0D%0A%5Bfont size%3D%221%22%5D%22Oh... %5Bi%5Dshit%5B%2Fi%5D.%22%5B%2Ffont%5D%0D%0A-%3E%3C-%0D%0ABenjamin D. Hutchins%2C Co-Founder%2C Editor-in-Chief%2C %26 Forum Mod%0D%0AEyrie Productions%2C Unlimited http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eyrie-productions.com%2F%0D%0Azgryphon at that email service Google has%0D%0A%5Bi%5DCeterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam.%5B%2Fi%5D 30|3|26|||||RE%3A %28OOTR-17%29 Cantata for Warships in D|bargamer||05:51:23|09/09/2015|Good stuff%2C nice parallels to OWaW. Can%27t wait for them to team up%2C but then Akio would counter with the Neuroification of a Union Core%2C so...%0D%0A%0D%0ANever seen%2Fplayed Kantai Collection%2C but now I want to. But is it just me being weird%2C but whenever Inazuma says her signature phrase%2C does anyone else hears it with the same intonation and melody as that %22Mameshiba%7E%22 thing%3F 41|3|26|||||RE%3A %28OOTR-17%29 Cantata for Warships in D|Tabasco||16:52:22|09/09/2015|Apropos of nothing%2C that line triggered a different scene in my head.%0D%0A%0D%0A%22I am Hibiki of the Fog. You stole my sister%27s snack. Prepare to cry.%22 43|4|41|||1||RE%3A %28OOTR-17%29 Cantata for Warships in D|Gryphon||17:17:21|09/09/2015|%3EApropos of nothing%2C that line triggered a different scene in my head. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3E%22I am Hibiki of the Fog. You stole my sister%27s snack. Prepare to %0D%0A%3Ecry.%22 %0D%0A%0D%0A%22Will you %5Bi%5Dstop saying that%3F%21%5B%2Fi%5D%22%0D%0A%0D%0A--G.%0D%0A%5Bfont size%3D%222%22%5D%C5%8CYODO%0D%0A%28raging at Mutsu%29%0D%0AAnd %5Bi%5Dyou%21%5B%2Fi%5D Friendless. Brainless. Helpless. %5Bi%5DHopeless.%5B%2Fi%5D Do you want me to send you back to where you %5Bi%5Dwere%3F%0D%0A%0D%0AMothballed%3F%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bb%5DIn Greenland%3F%21%5B%2Fb%5D%5B%2Fi%5D%5B%2Ffont%5D%0D%0A-%3E%3C-%0D%0ABenjamin D. Hutchins%2C Co-Founder%2C Editor-in-Chief%2C %26 Forum Mod%0D%0AEyrie Productions%2C Unlimited http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eyrie-productions.com%2F%0D%0Azgryphon at that email service Google has%0D%0A%5Bi%5DCeterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam.%5B%2Fi%5D 46|5|43|||1||RE%3A %28OOTR-17%29 Cantata for Warships in D|SpottedKitty||22:10:12|09/09/2015|While detours into %5Bi%5DPrincess Bride%5B%2Fi%5D-ness are always good on general principle%2C I%27m fairly sure something would go %3Cclunk%3E between my ears if anything like this made it into an actual story. %3B%29%0D%0A%0D%0A-- %0D%0AUnable to save the day%3A File is read-only. 32|1|0|||||RE%3A %28OOTR-17%29 Cantata for Warships in D|Meagen||10:47:22|09/09/2015|[updated:LAST EDITED ON Sep-09-15 AT 11:58 AM (EDT)]This cantata had something for everyone%3A cute girls%2C naval warfare history %28both the hardware and the tactics%29%2C just a touch of naval warfare speculative sci-fi%2C space opera AI-related plots for emotional context%2C and MASSIVE WORLD-BENDING GODLY MAGIC.%0D%0A%0D%0AI know you%27re always kind of reticient about using magic as a plot point in UF%2C but I think you handled it well here%2A. You%27ve set up the backstory well enough to have the Actual God Powers be a last-resort sort of thing%2C and written the actual escalation of responses and subsequent effects of pulling out the trump card to give the feeling of %22that was epic%2C but I hope he doesn%27t have to do that again any time soon%22. Making Corwin a %5Bi%5Ddeus machinarum%5B%2Fi%5D without making it into a %5Bi%5Ddeus ex machina%5B%2Fi%5D%2C if you will. %3A%29 Good show%21%0D%0A%0D%0AMeagen%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bfont size%3D-2%5D%2A Having played a Magic-origin character as my main in City of Heroes%2C I%27ve spent a long time thinking about magic in a modern%2Fnear future sci-fi context%2C and how to answer the %22why don%27t you just use magic%22 question in various contexts with %22because using magic to fix this problem would be needlessly complicated%2Ftoo dangerous%2Ftoo time-consuming%2Funethical%22.%5B%2Ffont%5D 36|2|32|||1||RE%3A %28OOTR-17%29 Cantata for Warships in D|Offsides||12:25:23|09/09/2015|%3EI know you%27re always kind of reticient about using magic as a plot %0D%0A%3Epoint in UF%2C but I think you handled it well here%2A. You%27ve set up the %0D%0A%3Ebackstory well enough to have the Actual God Powers be a last-resort %0D%0A%3Esort of thing%2C and written the actual escalation of responses and %0D%0A%3Esubsequent effects of pulling out the trump card to give the feeling %0D%0A%3Eof %22that was epic%2C but I hope he doesn%27t have to do that again any %0D%0A%3Etime soon%22. Making Corwin a %5Bi%5Ddeus machinarum%5B%2Fi%5D without making it %0D%0A%3Einto a %5Bi%5Ddeus ex machina%5B%2Fi%5D%2C if you will. %3A%29 Good show%21 %0D%0A%0D%0AI can just see it now. Corwin%27s finally starting to regain some semblance of coherence when his mother shows up carrying%2Flevitating a whole bunch of file boxes.%0D%0A%0D%0A%22Mom%3F What%27s all this%3F%22%0D%0A%0D%0A%22It%27s from Njord. He said something along the lines of%2C %27You made the mess%2C you fill out the paperwork for it%21%27%22%0D%0A%0D%0A%28Corwin buries himself back under the covers.%29%0D%0A%0D%0AOffsides%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bsmall%5DAnd now we know why you only break the seal as a last resort %3A%29%5B%2Fsmall%5D%0D%0A%0D%0A%26%2391%3B...%26%2393%3B in order to be a realist you must believe in miracles.%0D%0A -- David Ben Gurion%0D%0AEPU RCW %23%26pi%3B%0D%0A%23include %3Cstdsig.h%3E%0D%0A%0D%0A 38|3|36|||1||RE%3A %28OOTR-17%29 Cantata for Warships in D|Gryphon||12:38:51|09/09/2015|%3E%22It%27s from Njord. He said something along the lines of%2C %27You made the %0D%0A%3Emess%2C you fill out the paperwork for it%21%27%22 %0D%0A%0D%0AWell%2C as it happens he%27s got a meeting with the %26AElig%3Bsir Council in the next couple-three days anyway. They%27ll be certain to bring it up while they%27ve got him there.%0D%0A%0D%0A--G.%0D%0A%5Bfont size%3D%221%22%5D%22Let me introduce you to the reasons why I felt it necessary to do that.%22%5B%2Ffont%5D%0D%0A-%3E%3C-%0D%0ABenjamin D. Hutchins%2C Co-Founder%2C Editor-in-Chief%2C %26 Forum Mod%0D%0AEyrie Productions%2C Unlimited http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eyrie-productions.com%2F%0D%0Azgryphon at that email service Google has%0D%0A%5Bi%5DCeterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam.%5B%2Fi%5D 44|4|38|||1||RE%3A %28OOTR-17%29 Cantata for Warships in D|Verbena||18:45:33|09/09/2015|[updated:LAST EDITED ON Sep-09-15 AT 06:50 PM (EDT)]%3E%3E%22It%27s from Njord. He said something along the lines of%2C %27You made the %0D%0A%3E%3Emess%2C you fill out the paperwork for it%21%27%22 %0D%0A%0D%0A%2Asnrk%2A Amusing%2C but Shioi was the only one actually dead%2C and she was in Hel. OTOH%2C Valhalla did not differentiate with respect to credo so long as the warrior was honorable. There won%27t be any Fog ships in Valhalla now%2C I%27d think %28sentience coming so late to them%2C plus I thought no Fog ships were destroyed in the initial war%29.%0D%0A%0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3EWell%2C as it happens he%27s got a meeting with the %C3%86sir Council in %0D%0A%3Ethe next couple-three days anyway. They%27ll be certain to bring it up %0D%0A%3Ewhile they%27ve got him there. %0D%0A%0D%0ATo say the least. I was wondering how he%27s going to talk his way out of this one. Saving fifteen people isn%27t enough of a reason to break that seal%2C I%27d imagine. Bringing fifteen Fog warships to their side might be%2C but AFAIK the Aesir stay out of mortal affairs thoroughly enough that denying Fog warships to Earth might -not- be. Unless there was a provable connection between Akio or Surtur and Earth. Say%2C through the Mysterons%3F%0D%0A%0D%0A%28edit%29 Oh yes%2C one more thing. This meeting%2C no doubt%2C has to do with Corwin%27s daughter. I think I mentioned this before%2C but if the Aesir needed a legal reason to be able to go after Akio personally%2C having Odin%27s great-granddaughter kidnapped might just qualify. Akio may have bought himself a whole new level of trouble.%0D%0A%0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3E--G. %0D%0A%3E%5Bfont size%3D%221%22%5D%22Let me introduce you to the reasons why I felt it %0D%0A%3Enecessary to do that.%22%5B%2Ffont%5D %0D%0A%0D%0AI await with bated breath. %3D%29%0D%0A%0D%0A------%0D%0A Fearless creatures%2C we all learn to fight the Reaper%0D%0A Can%27t defeat Her%2C so instead I%27ll have to be Her 45|5|44|||1||RE%3A %28OOTR-17%29 Cantata for Warships in D|Gryphon||19:12:33|09/09/2015|%3ETo say the least. I was wondering how he%27s going to talk his way out %0D%0A%3Eof this one. Saving fifteen people isn%27t enough of a reason to break %0D%0A%3Ethat seal%2C I%27d imagine.%0D%0A%0D%0ADepends on whom you ask. Some would say one person was worth it. Regardless%2C it%27s not really a question of justifying the action as documenting it.%0D%0A%0D%0A%3E%28edit%29 Oh yes%2C one more thing. This meeting%2C no doubt%2C has to do with %0D%0A%3ECorwin%27s daughter.%0D%0A%0D%0AActually%2C it%27s mostly to do with that incident in which one of the Councilors assassinated a member of the Pillar%27s court.%0D%0A%0D%0A--G.%0D%0A-%3E%3C-%0D%0ABenjamin D. Hutchins%2C Co-Founder%2C Editor-in-Chief%2C %26 Forum Mod%0D%0AEyrie Productions%2C Unlimited http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eyrie-productions.com%2F%0D%0Azgryphon at that email service Google has%0D%0A%5Bi%5DCeterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam.%5B%2Fi%5D 47|6|45|||1||RE%3A %28OOTR-17%29 Cantata for Warships in D|Verbena||22:35:52|09/09/2015|%3E%3ETo say the least. I was wondering how he%27s going to talk his way out %0D%0A%3E%3Eof this one. Saving fifteen people isn%27t enough of a reason to break %0D%0A%3E%3Ethat seal%2C I%27d imagine.%0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3EDepends on whom you ask. Some would say one person was worth it. %0D%0A%3ERegardless%2C it%27s not really a question of justifying the action as %0D%0A%3Edocumenting it. %0D%0A%0D%0AWell%2C in a case like this%2C there%27s the Council%27s opinion%2C and%2C well%2C no one else%27s. %3D%29%0D%0A%0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3E%3E%28edit%29 Oh yes%2C one more thing. This meeting%2C no doubt%2C has to do with %0D%0A%3E%3ECorwin%27s daughter.%0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3EActually%2C it%27s mostly to do with that incident in which one of the %0D%0A%3ECouncilors assassinated a member of the Pillar%27s court. %0D%0A%0D%0AOh. Yes. Minor details like that. The rest of the Council already knew Freya was...well%2C frayed%2C if you%27ll forgive the double entendre. But I%27m sure none of them expected -this-. Her mind isn%27t just messed up%2C it%27s -decaying- at a rate that brings the Necronomicon to mind. Wonder if Akio isn%27t sending secret love messages to her...things like%2C %22You%27ll kill Clef if you really love me%2C sweetie%21%22%0D%0A%0D%0A%5Bsmall%5DIa%21 Ia%21 Akio fhtagn%21%5B%2Fsmall%5D%0D%0A%0D%0A------%0D%0A Fearless creatures%2C we all learn to fight the Reaper%0D%0A Can%27t defeat Her%2C so instead I%27ll have to be Her 48|7|47|||1||RE%3A %28OOTR-17%29 Cantata for Warships in D|Gryphon||23:20:53|09/09/2015|%3E%3E%3ESaving fifteen people isn%27t enough of a reason to break %0D%0A%3E%3E%3Ethat seal%2C I%27d imagine.%0D%0A%3E%3E%0D%0A%3E%3EDepends on whom you ask. Some would say one person was worth it. %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3EWell%2C in a case like this%2C there%27s the Council%27s opinion%2C and%2C well%2C %0D%0A%3Eno one else%27s. %3D%29 %0D%0A%0D%0AYes%2C and some members of that Council have different opinions.%0D%0A%0D%0ABe that as it may%2C though%3A%0D%0A%0D%0A%3E%3ERegardless%2C it%27s not really a question of justifying the action as %0D%0A%3E%3Edocumenting it.%0D%0A%0D%0AThe thing about an unsealing is that it isn%27t%2C in itself%2C some kind of celestial crime. The seals are there to prevent accidental damage to the mortal world from the gods%27 unchecked power. Breaking one is a serious matter%2C but not necessarily a %5Bi%5Ddisciplinary%5B%2Fi%5D one. The first thing they look at when that happens is whether there %5Bi%5Dwas%5B%2Fi%5D accidental damage to the mortal world. If there wasn%27t%2C step two is to see whether there was %5Bi%5Ddeliberate%5B%2Fi%5D damage to the mortal world. Step %5Bi%5Dthree%5B%2Fi%5D%2C if the answer to step two was %22yes%22%2C would be to decide whether it was justified.%0D%0A%0D%0AIn this case%2C there wasn%27t any significant celestially-inflicted damage to the fabric of Midgard at all%2C accidental or otherwise%2C so... there%27s not really anything further to investigate. Think of it as a little bit like a naval court-martial. Those aren%27t always disciplinary actions%3B sometimes %28as in the sinkings of ships by enemy action in wartime%29 they%27re just about getting what happened on paper.%0D%0A%0D%0A--G.%0D%0A-%3E%3C-%0D%0ABenjamin D. Hutchins%2C Co-Founder%2C Editor-in-Chief%2C %26 Forum Mod%0D%0AEyrie Productions%2C Unlimited http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eyrie-productions.com%2F%0D%0Azgryphon at that email service Google has%0D%0A%5Bi%5DCeterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam.%5B%2Fi%5D 49|8|48|||1||RE%3A %28OOTR-17%29 Cantata for Warships in D|Verbena||00:34:56|09/10/2015|%3E%3E%3ERegardless%2C it%27s not really a question of justifying the action as %0D%0A%3E%3E%3Edocumenting it.%0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3EThe thing about an unsealing is that it isn%27t%2C in itself%2C some kind of %0D%0A%3Ecelestial crime. The seals are there to prevent accidental damage to %0D%0A%3Ethe mortal world from the gods%27 unchecked power. Breaking one is a %0D%0A%3Eserious matter%2C but not necessarily a %5Bi%5Ddisciplinary%5B%2Fi%5D one. The %0D%0A%3Efirst thing they look at when that happens is whether there %5Bi%5Dwas%5B%2Fi%5D %0D%0A%3Eaccidental damage to the mortal world. If there wasn%27t%2C step two is %0D%0A%3Eto see whether there was %5Bi%5Ddeliberate%5B%2Fi%5D damage to the mortal world. %0D%0A%3E Step %5Bi%5Dthree%5B%2Fi%5D%2C if the answer to step two was %22yes%22%2C would be to %0D%0A%3Edecide whether it was justified. %0D%0A%0D%0AHm%2C okay. I think my opinion may have been unduly colored by my memory of the original AMG anime%2C where punishments for gods were pretty severe. I was thinking the act of breaking the seal was in and of itself a serious crime%2C which could easily be compounded by what was done while the god was unsealed.%0D%0A%0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%3EIn this case%2C there wasn%27t any significant celestially-inflicted %0D%0A%3Edamage to the fabric of Midgard at all%2C accidental or otherwise%2C so... %0D%0A%3Ethere%27s not really anything further to investigate. Think of it as a %0D%0A%3Elittle bit like a naval court-martial. Those aren%27t always %0D%0A%3Edisciplinary actions%3B sometimes %28as in the sinkings of ships by enemy %0D%0A%3Eaction in wartime%29 they%27re just about getting what happened on paper. %0D%0A%0D%0AMakes sense%2C and thanks for the clarification.%0D%0A%0D%0A------%0D%0A Fearless creatures%2C we all learn to fight the Reaper%0D%0A Can%27t defeat Her%2C so instead I%27ll have to be Her 51|9|49|||||RE%3A %28OOTR-17%29 Cantata for Warships in D|TsukaiStarburst||02:31:20|09/10/2015|I can definitely say I%27m reassured.%0D%0A%0D%0ANow I%27m just moving on to the image of the glorious clusterfuck that will be %27ok so frey-%27 %27baby got kidnapped%27 %27OK HUGE DERAIL THERE BUT WHAAAAAA%27 52|8|48|||1||RE%3A %28OOTR-17%29 Cantata for Warships in D|Offsides||14:31:48|09/10/2015|%3EIn this case%2C there wasn%27t any significant celestially-inflicted %0D%0A%3Edamage to the fabric of Midgard at all%2C accidental or otherwise%2C so... %0D%0A%3Ethere%27s not really anything further to investigate. Think of it as a %0D%0A%3Elittle bit like a naval court-martial. Those aren%27t always %0D%0A%3Edisciplinary actions%3B sometimes %28as in the sinkings of ships by enemy %0D%0A%3Eaction in wartime%29 they%27re just about getting what happened on paper. %0D%0A%0D%0AThat%27s more along the lines of what I was thinking when I wrote that little vignette. Had it been a real crime%2C I suspect the Valkyrior would have been sent to arrest Corwin %28or at least escort him back to Asgard%29%2C rather than sending several file boxes of paperwork to be filled out %28in triplicate%2C no carbon%2C naturally%29 %3A%29%0D%0A%0D%0AThere%27s also the fact that he broke the seal specifically to keep his word to those who had accepted him as their God %28even if he already was%2C they voluntarily chose to follow him%29. I think had he NOT done everything in his power to protect them he might have gotten into more trouble %28whether %22legally%22 or simply karmically%29...%0D%0A%0D%0AOffsides%0D%0A%0D%0A%26%2391%3B...%26%2393%3B in order to be a realist you must believe in miracles.%0D%0A -- David Ben Gurion%0D%0AEPU RCW %23%26pi%3B%0D%0A%23include %3Cstdsig.h%3E%0D%0A%0D%0A 53|8|48|||||RE%3A %28OOTR-17%29 Cantata for Warships in D|CdrMike||21:39:46|09/10/2015|%3EIn this case%2C there wasn%27t any significant celestially-inflicted %0D%0A%3Edamage to the fabric of Midgard at all%2C accidental or otherwise%2C so... %0D%0A%3Ethere%27s not really anything further to investigate. Think of it as a %0D%0A%3Elittle bit like a naval court-martial. Those aren%27t always %0D%0A%3Edisciplinary actions%3B sometimes %28as in the sinkings of ships by enemy %0D%0A%3Eaction in wartime%29 they%27re just about getting what happened on paper. %0D%0A%0D%0AI think most Trek fans would remember that Picard was himself court-martialed following the loss of the %5Bi%5DStargazer%5B%2Fi%5D%2C with his being ultimately being absolved of any negligence and commended for how he handled the confrontation%2C even if it did result in the destruction of his command. 37|2|32|||||RE%3A %28OOTR-17%29 Cantata for Warships in D|jonathanlennox||12:31:28|09/09/2015|%3EMaking Corwin a %5Bi%5Ddeus machinarum%5B%2Fi%5D without making it %0D%0A%3Einto a %5Bi%5Ddeus ex machina%5B%2Fi%5D%2C if you will. %3A%29 Good show%21 %0D%0A%3E%0D%0A%0D%0AThough as someone said in the context of %28Rot13 for spoilers%29 Wb Jnygba%27f %5Bi%5DGur Cuvybfbcure Xvatf%5B%2Fi%5D%2C %22ending a book with a %5Bi%5Ddeus ex machina%5B%2Fi%5D is probably justified when some of the characters are %5Bi%5Dde%C4%AB%5B%2Fi%5D and others are %5Bi%5Dmachinae%5B%2Fi%5D.%22 I of course immediately thought of UF when I read that comment. 40|3|37|||1||RE%3A %28OOTR-17%29 Cantata for Warships in D|Gryphon||14:38:13|09/09/2015|[updated:LAST EDITED ON Sep-09-15 AT 02:39 PM (EDT)]%3E%5Bi%5DGur Cuvybfbcure Xvatf%5B%2Fi%5D%0D%0A%0D%0AThat is by %5Bi%5Dfar%5B%2Fi%5D the most popular Vegan %5Bi%5Duvfgbevpny ebznapr%5B%2Fi%5D novel among non-Vegans%2C which of course means that proper Vegan literati sneer at it with all four of their upper lips.%0D%0A%0D%0A--G.%0D%0A-%3E%3C-%0D%0ABenjamin D. Hutchins%2C Co-Founder%2C Editor-in-Chief%2C %26 Forum Mod%0D%0AEyrie Productions%2C Unlimited http%3A%2F%2Fwww.eyrie-productions.com%2F%0D%0Azgryphon at that email service Google has%0D%0A%5Bi%5DCeterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam.%5B%2Fi%5D 54|1|0|||||RE%3A %28OOTR-17%29 Cantata for Warships in D|mouse_rr||11:51:44|09/26/2015|while i did thoroughly enjoy it this chapter required a bit of work on my part to get sorted out character%2Fseries origin wise. i hadnt finished watching the Kancolle anime and had never heard of Arpeggio so at Kongo%27s introduction i had to pause and find%2Fwatch Arpeggio %27cause %5Bi%5Dthat%5B%2Fi%5D was not the Kongo i knew%28loved how Kongo of Kantai cursed in english%29 but after having watched Arpeggio some things became pretty hard to fit. i understand the idea of using the character dialogue from the Kancolle game%2C great timesaver in some ways and helps easily establish%2C for those in the know%2C who is who and what their persona is like however many of the instances are so completely out of context if the fusion of Kancolle and Arpeggio is leaning more towards the Fog than the Kantai thatm%2C for me at least%2C i was brought to a complete halt trying to parse why certain dialogue would be used in scenes X%2C Y and Z when at that point human and fog are still technically in conflict. %0D%0A%0D%0Ait is probably just me but i dont see how certain lines work prior to the %27assuming command%27 scene.