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1. "RE: Fulcrum of Fate III"
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IHNJ, IJLS "News of this kind a danish requires." Doctor Kirayo's professional pride warms my heart. Old Ben is a tricksy bastard indeed. I suppose three millenia of Nirvana give you a very good idea indeed of what you can get away with. Very nice tie-in to the modern Atlanteans. Now we know the prologue of our favorite engineering-inclined Bearer of Tres Megistos' story. I suppose Master Kyn'o'bi doesn't know or doesn't want Anakyn to know about Nemo, but the latter has been well-proven in the detection of his own blood. I wonder what would happen if they met in the modern age. All-in-all, the work shows the mastery of one-liners, comedic and dramatic timing, and superlative action sequences we've come to expect. You deserve a treat. I'll buy another couple copies of your book and give them to my in-laws for Christmas. Do please tell us when your next book is published, so I can buy that too. Mike Thedford College Town Shopkeep at Large |
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twipper
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Nov-03-06, 03:17 PM (EST) |
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10. "RE: Fulcrum of Fate III"
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Actually, of all the character twists that have come out of UF, this was the one I understood the least. I don't disagree with it, and actually was highly amused by the concept (being an old fan). I am just not finding the fit in my head. Ben, This serial has been nothing but pure enjoyment for me. Many thanks to the team. Brian While Eris is competent, for real Chaos seek Arioch.
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Gryphon
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Nov-03-06, 03:21 PM (EST) |
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11. "RE: Fulcrum of Fate III"
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>Actually, of all the character twists that have come out of UF, this >was the one I understood the least. I don't disagree with it, and >actually was highly amused by the concept (being an old fan). I am >just not finding the fit in my head. Well, originally Alaia was going to actually run into someone, but I decided that wasn't terribly Jedi-like. Then I decided that whoever was going to avoid her should do it in as cinematic a manner as possible, just to further counterpoint the fact that she's so intent on her errand that she doesn't notice. It was a short jump, no pun intended, from there to Pete Spideying up onto the ceiling. As for why he's a Jedi Master, well, this is an older, wiser Peter Parker. He's had his emo phase, and now he's settled into his role and is doing the best he can to help as many people as possible - because, as every Jedi Master knows, with great power comes great responsibility. --G. -><- Benjamin D. Hutchins, Co-Founder, Editor-in-Chief, & Forum Admin Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/
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MoonEyes
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Nov-04-06, 05:12 PM (EST) |
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28. "RE: Fulcrum of Fate III"
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>Jedi Master Parker. It makes some sick twisted sense. >Interesting thing, perhaps, is that I didn't click that for a moment. After all, we'd just a few moments earlier seen Yoda run across a ceiling. Now, admittedly, this was YODA...but if he could do that, why wouldn't an 'ordinary' master(after all, there is nothing ordinary about ordinary Jedi masters) jump up and stay on the ceiling? /MoonEyes
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Gryphon
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Nov-04-06, 05:22 PM (EST) |
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29. "RE: Fulcrum of Fate III"
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LAST EDITED ON Nov-04-06 AT 05:22 PM (EST) >>Jedi Master Parker. It makes some sick twisted sense. >> > >Interesting thing, perhaps, is that I didn't click that for a moment. >After all, we'd just a few moments earlier seen Yoda run across a >ceiling. Now, admittedly, this was YODA...but if he could do that, >why wouldn't an 'ordinary' master(after all, there is nothing ordinary >about ordinary Jedi masters) jump up and stay on the ceiling? Jumping to a ceiling is a trivial chore for a Jedi Master, true. Running across one can be achieved with great focus and/or low body mass (and because it tickled my fancy to have Yoda, of all characters, rockin' the wuxia stylee a little). Hanging from one with no visible means of support while stationary for several seconds? Not a stunt you'll see many Jedi performing, or even attempting. It's not a "natural" use of Force levitation; much more intuitive would be to jump out of the way to a safer normal location, or possibly levitate in mid-air, rather than clinging to the ceiling. Master Parker possesses abilities beyond those conveyed by the Force, but this is hardly unusual in the greater scope of things. Any Rodian Jedi, for example, has the ability to sense magnetic fields, and any Vulcan Jedi has enhanced telepathic abilities and superhuman strength. Parker merely came by his extranormal-but-non-Force-derived abilities through accident (he was bitten by an accidentally irradiated spider while on a tour of a Photon lab during a school trip to Ragol) rather than species heritage. --G. -><- Benjamin D. Hutchins, Co-Founder, Editor-in-Chief, & Forum Admin Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/
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BlackAeronaut
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Nov-04-06, 07:03 PM (EST) |
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34. "RE: Fulcrum of Fate III"
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> Parker merely came by his extranormal-but-non-Force-derived abilities >through accident (he was bitten by an accidentally irradiated spider >while on a tour of a Photon lab during a school trip to Ragol) rather >than species heritage. *Bows to the Almighty Master* That... Is awesome. Any chance that, if we see him again, that we'll see any Getter Radiation related abilities (as opposed to the usual Spiderman abilities)? Black Aeronaut Technologies Creative aerospace solutions for the discerning spacer "To the commissary we should go," Yoda declared firmly. "News of this kind a danish requires." |
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Gryphon
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Nov-04-06, 08:23 PM (EST) |
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36. "RE: Fulcrum of Fate III"
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>That... Is awesome. Any chance that, if we see him again, that we'll >see any Getter Radiation related abilities (as opposed to the usual >Spiderman abilities)?There appears to be no direct link in this case. It seems likely that the Getter rays, which tend to exaggerate natural characteristics of the items and lifeforms they come into contact with*, are responsible for the spider-like traits passed on to Mr. Parker in the first place and little else. After all, Parker himself was not exposed to abnormal levels of radiation. Interestingly, though, he does seem to have inherited a quality similar to the often-observed tendency of Getter rays to react to emotional stimuli: if he lacks confidence in his powers, their effectiveness seems to fade somewhat. --G. * An obvious example of this phenomenon is IPO scientist R. Bruce Banner, in whom massive irradiation with Getter rays produced a sort of wildly exaggerated overt physical expression of certain deep-seated psychological issues Dr. Banner possessed before the accident. -><- Benjamin D. Hutchins, Co-Founder, Editor-in-Chief, & Forum Admin Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/
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BlackAeronaut
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Nov-03-06, 06:34 AM (EST) |
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3. "RE: Fulcrum of Fate III"
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Okay, this is just so flippin' cool. Not quite as action packed, but still ever so jaw dropping all the same. Sure as hell filled me with fan-boyish glee... Oi, all you folks who haven't read FoFIII yet, there's spoilers ahead.
There was a snap-hiss, and Emmy blinked. Alaia's new lightsaber was a pale green color, but it had occasional flickers of pale purple along the very edge of it. When she looked at Obi-Wan, Emmy saw his eyebrows were up too."That's an interesting color," he said finally. Alaia nodded. "The crystal had a note with it, saying it'd been irradiated at one point. Somebody found it on an old abandoned moonbase. It... likes me. Please don't ask me to explain that."
I wouldn't dream of it, kiddo. I know exactly what you mean. Kinda like when you slip into the driver's seat of a car and you instantly know you and this vehicle -click-. Sorry for the romantization - I'm an engineer who believes that machines have spirits, too.
Of all the humiliating ways to be cut out of the action, Selven thought. Trapped in a portafresher with the door welded shut by a Jedi lightsaber. No one back on Taris is -ever- going to let me live this down.I'm going to kill that Jedi bastard some day, if it's the last thing I ever do.
BWA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HA-HAAAA! Oh, that is beautiful.
"I don't know. I swear on Saint Gorbachev's bones this is true!" Ivan insisted.
Huh. Never woulda thought of something like that. Nice little cultural twist there, Gryphon.
And in she came - slim, dark-haired, looking exactly as she had when she'd left Naboo to return to her homeworld a few weeks before, just after the dust from the invasion had settled. Achika had originally come to Naboo as a special diplomatic envoy, the Jyuraian Crown's representative to Amidala's coronation, and had been trapped there for nearly a month by the Federation blockade. She'd helped turn back the invasion and left as a friend not only of the Naboo royal government, but also of Padme Amidala herself - and now she was back, dressed in Jyuraian ambassadorial robes that rivaled Amidala's own court garments for complexity, albeit in an entirely different style.
Achika! Good to see ya again! ^_^
"Mm!" he said. "Found the moonbase crystal you have, I see. A fascinating specimen it is. Attempted to use it many padawans have... "Alaia gave him a wary look. "And... ?" Yoda shook his head. "Responded to their attentions it did not. Mm. Interesting that is. Most interesting."
Huh. Wouldn't have thought that something like that would have had Yoda's attention. Unless said crystal had... adverse affects on other padawans' light sabers. Now is it just my imagination or is this young lady going to be attracting all the odd-ball crystals?
"Master, why don't all Jedi fight with two lightsabers?" one of the students, a young human girl with red hair and freckles, asked.
That's not Ginny Weasely, is it?
"A dueling form adapted from a recently discovered sister order this is. Dangerous it is for the unskilled. In this manner no Jedi who has not passed the Trials may duel." He gestured to Emmy. "Your rose fix as I have fixed mine. Whichever of us loses it first, the loser of the duel is."
:-D Holy hell! A Rose Dual! Damn, Yoda sure as hell knows how to put on aires.
"Nf. Mrf," he muttered, slowly clambering back into his robe and taking his cane back. "Feel that in the morning I will. Too old for this I am."
*Snickers* No comment. No comment.
"A good student young Weasley is, but often overshadowed he is by his classmates," Yoda told her. "Learn to stand on his own he must. Perform best he does when to challenges he rises." He nodded. "Almost ready to become a padawan he is.""Have you chosen his master yet?" Obi-Wan inquired. Yoda shook his head. "Not quite," he said. "A difficult choice it is. Serve him well either of two masters would, but train him only one can." He tapped the call button for the lift with his cane, then leaned on it and sighed contentedly. "When ready he is, the way the Force will show."
Well now, this is certainly interesting. I know there was speculation before as to who would become Ron's Master, but I forget who all they were. This certainly means we'll probably be hearing about it soon, if not then by the end of FoF.
"To the commissary we should go," Yoda declared firmly. "News of this kind a danish requires."
*Giggles* Thank you, Gryphon. I've been looking for something suitably oddball, yet not over-the-top, like this for a while.
Some hours later, Len was relaxing in guest quarters, his long, lanky frame stretched out on a narrow single bed, and trying to wrap his head around the things Emmy had told him. Her ancestor O'bi-Wann, alive - thanks to the collaborative efforts of Emmy and Darth Vader, no less! Master Yoda had been right - news of that kind required a very big danish indeed.
Okay, the Danish thing is definitely well on it's way to the sataus of Running Gag. Not that this is a bad thing. ;) I can just see it. Whenever Len gets big news from here on out, he's gonna say, "What? ... I need a danish."
Len got up as well. "I'm just glad I was able to help Juhani, Master Burke," he said. "What will happen to her now? If not you, who will complete her training and prepare her for the Trials?"Burke smiled enigmatically. "That's... already been taken care of," he said. "Good night, Leonard. Thank you for all you've done. Though I'm already in your debt, I may call on you again at some future time." Len looked mildly perplexed by Burke's evasion of his question, but put it aside and, bowing, assured the Rodian Master that he'd be happy to help him again someday.
He never sees these set-ups as they're coming, does he?
Obi-Wan Kenobi was enjoying his morning coffee - remarkable beverage, this! Nothing like it on old Atlantis, more's the pity
Ah, so they never had anything like coffee anywhere else? Pity indeed.
when the door opened and in came his very own padawan learner, and in something of a state, too. Alaia was so intent on her errand and in such a hurry that she cannoned straight into Master Parker as he was leaving - or would have, had he not leaped to the ceiling and stayed there until the danger was past."Whoa!" Parker exclaimed, hanging upside down and craning his neck to watch her pass. "Where's the fire, Padawan?"
The hell!? Spiderman!? Damn, Gryphon, you've gone and done it again - caught me completely by surprise with that one!
"Here we are," Greb announced, forming a pseudopod to make a sweeping gesture that took in the ship. "The good ship Ebon Hawk, fresh from refit. Don't know exactly what kind of ship she is; odds are she was a custom job for somebody. She's got some history, but you seem like a man who appreciates that kinda thing. More important, she's fast. Fastest ship we have here, apart from Atin-Vae's Delta. Her hyperdrive motivator's rated at point three three and you won't find bigger fusion turbines on a ship this size, neither."
.... You know, one of these days I'm gonna stop being surprised by all the stuff you folks pull out of your collective hats. Probably when I'm dead.
She blinked as a thought occurred to her. "Master, do you have a starship master's certificate?""No," Obi-Wan replied. "Do you?" "No. I've had some training, but I don't have enough flight hours to apply for the test yet." "Ah." Obi-Wan mulled this over for a moment, then shrugged. "Well, we're clever. I expect between the two of us we're a qualified person." And, unconcerned, he began to prep the ship for launch.
I may be misquoting here, but, "This can only lead to excellence or injury."
"Well," he said, "now what?"Alaia said speculatively, "Well, Lt. Kajoda did say we might try asking a security officer." Obi-Wan nodded. "Right, then. That's what we'll do!" He looked around for someone who might be a security officer, decided his best bet was probably the chap standing by the exit doors with what appeared to be a wooden blaster carbine slung across his chest, and strode cheerfully over to the man. "Hullo! Are you a security officer?" he asked. Obi-Wan had the distinct amusement of watching his apprentice drop her head forward into her hand with a resounding, embarrassed smack. For his part, the man looked vaguely surprised to be asked such a question. "Er... yes I am," he replied. "Can I help you?" "My name is Obi-Wan Kenobi," Obi-Wan said, "and this is Alaia ner Ronor. We're looking for the Dark Lord of the Sith," he added with a beaming grin. Beside him, Alaia kept her face in her hand.
*Is reduced to a pile of giggles*
Alaia absorbed that for a moment, then said, "But all the while he was plotting the Emperor's destruction. 'The vengeance of the Sith.'""Apparently so. I must say, this is an insight into Anakyn's odyssey that I would never have suspected." Obi-Wan put a hand on Alaia's shoulder. "Thank you, Alaia. You've made progress toward controlling your gift and shown me something of great value at the same time."
Wow, I'll say. Certainly sheds light on the subject of "What the hell was Vader thinking back then anywyas?"
Behind him, high in the blue-gold twilight sky, a bright beacon briefly flared, like a distant star going nova. Vader's eyes flicked to it, watched it flash and die, and then narrowed."Nadia," he murmured.
*PTH-DONG* *CRUNCH!* ... Gryphon, you owe me a new keyboard.
What Vader would always remember most about the crucible in which his legend was forged was the light, harsh, actinic, filling his consciousness as it all but destroyed his eyes. In his dreams he still saw it, saw the bones in his hands and arms melting away in it, just before he hit the bottom and everything went black in a crunch of shattering skull.The light.
...Darkness comprehendeth it not. Or at least, when it does, that means something special happens. =p Holy hell! And we still don't know for sure what's going on. You, sir, are an evil, evil man, giving us two cliff-hangers in a row like that. Though, granted, this one isn't so bad, but sitll. *Grins ruefully* Black Aeronaut Technologies Creative aerospace solutions for the discerning spacer "What? Under the dorsal guiding feathers!?" |
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BlackAeronaut
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Nov-04-06, 00:04 AM (EST) |
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18. "RE: Fulcrum of Fate III"
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>... and rocks it so hard that it might as well be a wineglass at >a Disaster Area concert. Totally. Blown. Away. Oh god... I can't resist... "Is it live, or is it Eyrie?" Black Aeronaut Technologies Creative aerospace solutions for the discerning spacer "To the commissary we should go," Yoda declared firmly. "News of this kind a danish requires." |
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McFortner
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Nov-03-06, 02:22 PM (EST) |
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9. "RE: Fulcrum of Fate III"
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Another one of those "What, over already?!" stories. I didn't want this one to end. As Yoda would say, "Wait for Part IV you must." And I may be showing my age, but I want more Dralasites, Vrusks, and Yazirians to show up. I loved those races so much they showed up in my Traveller campaign many moons ago. The fit there as much as they do here since it was Space Opera in tone. And Sathar would be perfect too. But you probably have already thought of this. Anyway, a great story and worth the wait. Michael
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Offsides
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Nov-03-06, 03:32 PM (EST) |
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12. "RE: Fulcrum of Fate III"
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Thank you for making my day - I needed a good dose of EPU to lift my spirits. Yet another fun read, even if it did make me hungry for a danish... :) Offsides [...] in order to be a realist you must believe in miracles. -- David Ben Gurion EPU RCW #π #include <stdsig.h> |
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trigger
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Nov-04-06, 01:42 AM (EST) |
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19. "RE: Fulcrum of Fate III"
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>That was good. I'll second that. The Rose Duel was amusing if only because Yoda is still bloody conservative. I still wish we'd seen Slarti. But that's 'cause I so want a sith-Hutt duel. <grin> Yes, that was bit of shameless begging. Props, however, on building up a new Vader legend. See you kept the princess (check), star-crossed love (check), the pit of fire (check), redemption at the end (check), and of course the iconic helmet shot (check). A picture of Obi-Wan contemplating The Helmet would of course, rock my world. Now if you can only decide if Padme is going to go for Len (my money) and thus cause one A.S. to got absolutely insane (well, more insane) then he currently is. Also, props for revealing finally, that Anne Springsteen is Atin-Vae. I had wondered, but hadn't added it all up until you showed off her ship. Hey! If she's a master does this mean she's not dating White Legion boy? I am aghast. I missed Master Parker's entry into the UF universe. Many thanks to the other posters who pointed it out. And of course, to the authors for letting one of the coolest, underappreciated, and overabused characters in the Stan Lee Canon show up, if even in cameo. cheers, t. Trigger Argee trigger_argee@hotmail.com Manon, Maccadon, Orado, etc. Denton, never leave home without it. "If we are marked to die, we are enough To do our country loss; and if to live, The fewer men, the greater the share of honour God's will I pray thee wish not one man more" - Henry V, Act, IV Scene III |
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Gryphon
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Nov-04-06, 02:15 AM (EST) |
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20. "RE: Fulcrum of Fate III"
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>Props, however, on building up a new Vader legend. Heh. Amusingly, bits of it - like the earliest, much less fleshed-out draft of Vader's duel with Obi-Wan in the ruins of the Atlantean palace - were written long before Episode III - or, heck, even Episode I - came out, when all anyone had to go on when contemplating Vader's "origin story" was the sketchy fan legend about volcanic pits of fire and whatnot. In fact, I believe the earliest rough of that scene pre-dates Road Movie to Naboo entirely - goes back to the sort of paleozoic time when the first Jedi Len story was still set in about 2420, still called Road Movie to Berlin, and there was no Emmy. >Now if you can only decide if Padme is going >to go for Len (my money) and thus cause one A.S. to got absolutely >insane (well, more insane) then he currently is. Well, two things here: 1) At the moment (the fall of 2412), Padmé is about 14½ years old - about the age she (if not Natalie Portman) was in Episode I - while Len is 21 and Anakin-from-Tatooine is 19; and 2) Anakin-from-Tatooine has never met Padmé, so he wouldn't be all that likely to care either way. :) >Also, props for revealing finally, that Anne Springsteen is Atin-Vae. Well, I mentioned it in a "memo from the Jedi Council" that got posted up in UF General a while back (announcing her nomination to the Council), but yeah. I wasn't really hiding it, per se, but there wasn't a graceful way to make it clear up until that point. As to where she got her "Jedi Master name", well, that's a story for another time, but it's worth noting that "atin" is Mandalorian for "stubborn". :) >If she's a master does this mean she's not dating White >Legion boy? Not necessarily; Jedi Masters in the modern era aren't prohibited from having personal lives (though their very busy lives often make it difficult in the extreme). Then again, we've seen no direct evidence that they were dating, as such, before. He took her to lunch on Qo'noS, and in both their appearances together they obviously enjoy each other's company, but that doesn't automatically mean anything serious. Besides, I mean, it's not like Jay doesn't have a job that keeps him pretty busy too. >I am aghast. I missed Master Parker's entry into the UF universe. >Many thanks to the other posters who pointed it out. And of course, >to the authors for letting one of the coolest, underappreciated, and >overabused characters in the Stan Lee Canon show up, if even in cameo. Heh. The whys and wherefores of Pete's cameo have already been covered elsewhere, so I won't repeat it here, but you're welcome. :) --G. "I used to be you, Harry. And lately I've been missing me, so I asked Yoda if I could room with me again and he said sure." -><- Benjamin D. Hutchins, Co-Founder, Editor-in-Chief, & Forum Admin Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/
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Offsides
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Nov-04-06, 08:57 AM (EST) |
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21. "RE: Fulcrum of Fate III"
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>goes back to the sort >of paleozoic time when the first Jedi Len story was still set in about >2420, still called Road Movie to Berlin, and there was no Emmy. > It must've been a made-for-TV-movie if it got an Emmy, otherwise it would have gotten an Oscar...(walks away whistling nonchalantly) Offsides [...] in order to be a realist you must believe in miracles. -- David Ben Gurion EPU RCW #π #include <stdsig.h> |
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E_M_Lurker
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Nov-04-06, 01:22 PM (EST) |
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24. "RE: Fulcrum of Fate III"
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LAST EDITED ON Nov-04-06 AT 01:23 PM (EST) >And, if so... does he have a daughter named >May? God, I hope not. To paraphrase, I think it was Harlan Ellison: When Tom DeFalco dies, and goes to the place in Hell reserved for people who destroy great comics, his head will be above the surface of the lake of fire... because he will be standing on Fredric Wertham's shoulders. (I'm a Simonson fan. But you could guess that, couldn't you?) --The Evil Midnight Lurker what Lurks at Midnight "An object at rest--CANNOT BE STOPPED!!!" |
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Gryphon
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Nov-04-06, 01:46 PM (EST) |
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25. "RE: Fulcrum of Fate III"
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LAST EDITED ON Nov-04-06 AT 01:53 PM (EST) >>And, if so... does he have a daughter named >>May? > >God, I hope not. > >To paraphrase, I think it was Harlan Ellison: > >When Tom DeFalco dies, and goes to the place in Hell reserved for >people who destroy great comics, his head will be above the surface of >the lake of fire... because he will be standing on Fredric >Wertham's shoulders. I think it was everybody I watched Babylon 5 with in GweepCo groups back in the day who said, every time his name appeared in the credits: "Shut up, Harlan!" Seriously, dude. It's a nicely turned phrase, but if you look in the dictionary under "pompous windbag", you'll see Harlan Ellison's picture in the margin. * True story: Back in its early days, the Sci-Fi Channel used to have little bumpers, spoken essays by sci-fi authors and futurists and the like, to fill in time between programs. One day my friend Andrew and I were watching something, or maybe we just had the TV on and tuned to Sci-Fi in the background, and Harlan Ellison came on and ranted for about a minute and a half, without seeming to pause for breath, about how the Internet was irrelevant and computers were useless and he still did all his great writing about the bold future of humanity on a typewriter, and that's the way it worked in his day and they liked it.At the end, Andrew turned to me and deadpanned, "Translation: 'Wah. I can't write good cyberpunk.'" Besides, I like Spider-Girl. I hardly see how an alternate future continuity can be seen as "destroying good comics". It's not like what goes on there has anything to do with the mainstream Spider-Man comics being crap. I'm not saying I've necessarily thought Master Parker's development out that far - after all, he was a 30-frame cameo - but I have enjoyed that title in the past, DeFalco or no DeFalco. Hell, the first story arc had a cameo by the Phil Urich Green Goblin. How can you not love that? How can anyone who loves puppies and little children not like the heroic Green Goblin and mourn his disappearance? But don't go by me. I like Araña: Heart of the Spider too, and not only am I way outside the target demographic for that action, her development story is marked by an example of the most blatant sort of 1950s-style tokenism. I have this strange habit sometimes of not letting regrettable real-world baggage drag down my enjoyment of a creative work. Yeah, weird, I know, but there you go. I still think We Were Soldiers is the best Vietnam War movie ever made, too, and the apparent fact that Mel Gibson has a few screws loose and is generally a guy I wouldn't want to hang out with is irrelevant to my enjoyment of his performance in the film. --G. -><- Benjamin D. Hutchins, Co-Founder, Editor-in-Chief, & Forum Admin Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/
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E_M_Lurker
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Nov-04-06, 09:05 PM (EST) |
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38. "RE: Fulcrum of Fate III"
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LAST EDITED ON Nov-04-06 AT 09:52 PM (EST) by Gryphon (admin) >I think it was everybody I watched Babylon 5 with in GweepCo >groups back in the day who said, every time his name appeared in the >credits: > >"Shut up, Harlan!" > >Seriously, dude. It's a nicely turned phrase, but if you look in the >dictionary under "pompous windbag", you'll see Harlan Ellison's >picture in the margin. Oh, I pretty much agree with you as far as Harlan goes. I just liked that one phrase so much I stole it off him. (Or not, I can't remember for certain.) >At the end, Andrew turned to me and deadpanned, "Translation: 'Wah. I >can't write good cyberpunk.'" Owned. >Besides, I like Spider-Girl. I hardly see how an alternate >future continuity can be seen as "destroying good comics". It's not >like what goes on there has anything to do with the mainstream >Spider-Man comics being crap. Well... it's like this. Spider-Girl, per se, is I must admit the best thing DeFalco's written that I was ever able to bring myself to read. But my view of everything he's done has been irredeemably tainted by the absolute reeking hosejobs he pulled coming in after Walt Simonson on both Thor and Fantastic Four. He didn't just do the usual new-author thing of clearing himself enough room to tell his own stories -- he systematically and with malice aforethought tore everything Walt had done to shreds, stomped on the shreds, and set them on fire. (Going well past Simonson's tenure in both cases, nearly all the way back to "pure" Lee and Kirby, but Walt was freshest in my mind.) And went on to produce drek where once had been glory. If I could move past that, I might even be able to enjoy the tales of Mayday Parker. But... I can't. I'm not proud of that, but there it is. The mere mention of any DeFalco original characters causes me to cringe in fear and loathing. (Then there was his bizarre and unholy statement that "Sleepwalker is Sandman done right." WTF?) That said, if anyone stands a chance of getting me to like some version of the character, it's you guys. :) >I'm not saying I've necessarily thought Master Parker's development >out that far - after all, he was a 30-frame cameo - but I have >enjoyed that title in the past, DeFalco or no DeFalco. Hell, the >first story arc had a cameo by the Phil Urich Green Goblin. How can >you not love that? How can anyone who loves puppies and little >children not like the heroic Green Goblin and mourn his >disappearance? Word. >But don't go by me. I like Araña: Heart of the Spider >too, and not only am I way outside the target demographic for >that action, her development story is marked by an example of the most >blatant sort of 1950s-style tokenism. I have this strange habit >sometimes of not letting regrettable real-world baggage drag down my >enjoyment of a creative work. Happens every time I read a John Ringo novel. :) >Yeah, weird, I know, but there you go. I still think We Were >Soldiers is the best Vietnam War movie ever made, too, and the >apparent fact that Mel Gibson has a few screws loose and is generally >a guy I wouldn't want to hang out with is irrelevant to my enjoyment >of his performance in the film. Likewise for the Mad Max films, here. ETA: Let me mutate a classic LSH line to sum up my opinion of Mr. DeFalco's body of work: Hate Lyja. Hate Eric Masterson. Hate, hate, hate. --The Evil Midnight Lurker what Lurks at Midnight "An object at rest--CANNOT BE STOPPED!!!" |
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FubarObfusco
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Nov-04-06, 05:05 PM (EST) |
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27. "RE: Fulcrum of Fate III"
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>>Heee! I could totally see Chris Knight as a Jedi. And the >>consternation he'd cause. > >Chris is...busy. But, as Alton Brown might say, that's another show. >:) Hmm ... _He's_ a weird-science rockstar in a world of magnets and miracles. _She's_ a scrappy little android Valkyrie with a full tank of whoop-ass. Together, they fight crime!
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Nathan
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Nov-04-06, 05:46 PM (EST) |
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30. "RE: Fulcrum of Fate III"
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They followed the shuffling, occasionally rolling Dralasite down a long row of parking spaces, each containing a tiny U-shaped starfighter no bigger than an airspeeder. At the end of the row there was a larger space, filling the rest of one corner of the hangar. A somewhat bigger vessel was parked there. Vaguely discus-shaped and with a blunt, squared-off nose, it appeared to Alaia to be some sort of light stock freighter, designed to fit into the same size bays and use the same cargo loading facilities as Corellian Engineering's YT series, but she didn't recognize its precise make.Is there any particular source in mind for the Jedi Order's current preferred ride, or are these just generic snubships? Ja, -n (who is loving this installment just as much on the second reading as the first) |
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Gryphon
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Nov-04-06, 06:27 PM (EST) |
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32. "RE: Fulcrum of Fate III"
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> They followed the shuffling, occasionally rolling Dralasite >down a long row of parking spaces, each containing a tiny U-shaped >starfighter no bigger than an airspeeder. > >Is there any particular source in mind for the Jedi Order's current >preferred ride, or are these just generic snubships? Those are the new JF-2 Actis fighters, fresh off the lines over at GENOM's famous top-end light spacecraft subsidiary, Cygnus Spaceworks (makers of, among other things, the Lambda-class executive shuttle and the AF-19 Delta attack fighter, peculiarly known in GENOM Military Arm parlance as an "assault gunboat"). They're the result of a several-year engineering effort at Cygnus, using technologies perfected at the same time in fellow GENOM subsidiary SFS's TIE Advanced A5 "Super Avenger" project and drawing much inspiration from extensive design and performance studies made of Master Springsteen's Delta-7. The JF-2 is an exclusive product - the Formula One racer of starfighters, if you will. They're hand-built in small numbers from the finest materials by skilled craftsbeings, absurdly expensive, manufactured only for and sold only to the Order of Jedi Knights. At the time of Fulcrum 3 they've been in production for just a few months. The ones Obi-Wan and Alaia are walking past in that scene were delivered a couple of weeks earlier. --G. -><- Benjamin D. Hutchins, Co-Founder, Editor-in-Chief, & Forum Admin Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/
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zerosumgame
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Nov-05-06, 06:30 AM (EST) |
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40. "RE: Fulcrum of Fate III"
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Very enjoyable. My only real complaint is that unlike the characters, I have no emotional involvement in Vader's medical crisis. Barring a retcon, I already know he's alive as of _Blades_. A minor quibble, and one that can hardly be avoided in UF, given the amount of backing and filling that goes on with plotlines. A definite improvement over the previous chapter. II, while enjoyable, didn't actually -feel- like it gave the plot any forward momentum. It seems to have picked up speed now, and I look forward to seeing where it goes. Thanks for putting out another great story, and even more thanks for producing the chapters so quickly. -z |
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Peter Eng
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Nov-05-06, 10:25 AM (EST) |
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41. "RE: Fulcrum of Fate III"
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>Very enjoyable. My only real complaint is that unlike the characters, >I have no emotional involvement in Vader's medical crisis. Barring a >retcon, I already know he's alive as of _Blades_. >Well, yes. Fulcrum of Fate is obviously covering the transition from the kludged cyborg of Road Movie to the armored Sith Knight of Blades. (Among other things.) On the other hand, I didn't have much emotional involvement in Episodes I - III, because I knew he was going to go Darkside, and become Darth Vader. The difference is Fulcrum rocks my socks off as George Lucas's "fill in the past" piece never did. Peter Eng -- Note to self: Due to high probability of having socks rocked off, remove shoes before reading EPU stories. Replacing shoes is expensive. |
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O_M
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Nov-06-06, 06:51 PM (EST) |
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43. "RE: Fulcrum of Fate III"
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Honestly, this may be paranoia, because upon rereading the scene in question, I can't find anything that really hints at it beyond my own suspicions. But honestly, Juhani's experience in breaking strikes me as almost....End of the World-ish. But then, that's just my gut feeling regarding our mysterious red robed stranger. Nothing like an obscurity in EPU to have you jumping at Akios in every shadow. :P "All good things come to an end...somehow I think Disney didn't get the memo." -OM |
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WengFook
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Nov-06-06, 09:28 PM (EST) |
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44. "RE: Fulcrum of Fate III"
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>Honestly, this may be paranoia, because upon rereading the scene in >question, I can't find anything that really hints at it beyond my own >suspicions. > >But honestly, Juhani's experience in breaking strikes me as >almost....End of the World-ish. >I can see it, but i'd like to point out that the breaking schtick has also been done by everyone's favourite teep lord Roger Tremayne(sp?). I'm not saying it IS him.. i'm just saying he is a probable suspect as well :D although in my mind the pieces click correctly about a Sith lord going around killing Jedi and selling off their stuff as a bizarre calling card to the remaining Jedi. Why he'd do that, well I got nothing :D _________________________________ We few. We happy few. We band of buggered.
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Astynax
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Nov-08-06, 04:47 AM (EST) |
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49. "RE: Fulcrum of Fate III"
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>I'm leaning against Roger if only because of the red outfit. Even if >he was "trying out" for Big Fire, I don't think they'd bother putting >him at Q-boss level (red hoods if I remember correctly). > >------------------------------------- >Chris can't handle chemicals Eh, if it wasn't him, it was someone associated with him relatively closely, I'd wager. The whole thing maps too closely to what went down with Bastilla earlier on in continuity. Take a Jedi, break her with soul searing mental anguish, watch the dark side claim her, add some psionic 'push' and send her off to fight other Jedi. About the only thing that makes it questionable if it was the man himself rather than some apprentice is that Juhani seemed to recover a bit more quickly after being shaken from the grip of the dark side, but that may just be a personality issue (Bastilla was much more of tight ass to start with, after all.)
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