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"(S54) In for a Penny..."
 
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9 As the ellipsis in the title suggested, there was going to be a second entr'acte after this one entitled ... In for a Pound, but events overtook us and it was never produced. It would have focused primarily on Kaitlyn's doings on Ishiyama, with the occasional look at what Utena, Challenger's crew, the Repo Men and McCandless's people were up to between the end of this piece and when we pick them up again in The Revolution Will Be Televised.

30 Prof. Schepartz is named for Yale University's Milton Harris '29 Ph.D. Professor of Chemistry (now there's a title), Dr. Alanna Schepartz, who runs the Schepartz Laboratory of Chemical Biology there. No particular reason; I went poking around the Web looking for the names of prominent living chemists and liked the sound of hers. Nothing in Alan Schepartz's demeanor or appearance is intended to imply anything about the real Dr. Schepartz.

177 Naturally, Steve Rogers has one because he's, well, Captain America.

181 May 20, 1943: Captain America receives a commendation from Franklin Delano Roosevelt (1882-1945), 32nd President of the United States, for his participation in Operation Torch, the Allied invasion of North Africa.

184 June 19, 1944: Captain America with Company E, 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne Division, US Army, in Normandy.

191 August 12, 2388: Captain America with members of Company E, 506th Jump Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne Division, UEDF, immediately following the Battle of Central Park in New York City.

243 Despite the mascot's rather silly public image, it is considered a great honor among White Legionnaires to be chosen to wear the red-striped armor of Chet the Safety Trooper. Having spent a year-long hitch as a Chet looks very good on a trooper's résumé, as it implies that he's considered competent and personable enough to represent the Legion in the full glare of the public eye.

263 Poor the Chief. Not only does his reputation precede him, it's not even very accurate. He's not a womanizer; very rarely is he the one doing the pursuing at all. He just minds his own business and sees what develops.

366 This presentation style is known in IPSF, WDF, and Starfleet circles as "the Scotty Pass", after its pioneer, Montgomery Scott, who first used it to show off the completely-revamped USS Enterprise (NCC-1701) to her commander, Captain James T. Kirk. (As seen in Star Trek: The Motion Picture).

428 Burke also said, "There is a limit at which forbearance ceases to be a virtue," which Anthy would translate to Latin and put on her coat of arms if she had one.

449 Your average sci-fi robot aspires to be more human. The UF version of Lore aspires to be more Klingon, or so he sometimes claims.

554 I made the UF version of Bastila a Bajoran because her default costume in Knights of the Old Republic quite resembles a Bajoran Militia uniform, as seen regularly on Star Trek: Deep Space Nine. Obviously Bastila is not a member of the Bajoran Militia; we can assume that her outfit here is roughly the Bajoran equivalent, style-wise, of wearing a dark suit that resembles a military uniform.

557 Bastila doesn't wear a Bajoran earring because, as a Jedi trained in the most conservative surviving tradition, she believes that she has eschewed her cultural background, including what she intellectually views as the quaint and superstitious belief in the Prophets.

560 Bastila's father was the famous explorer Shan Mahar, whose travels in search of ancient mysteries and treasure took him far afield from any formal school. Before she was taken by the Jedi at the age of seven, Bastila received her early education from a 3P-series protocol droid, and even as an adult her speech patterns reflect her first tutor's clipped British dialect.

608 One of my favorite character animations in Knights of the Old Republic, used where male characters would bow.

654 Indeed, since the major civilizations of the Second Epoch were centered around what are today the Outer Rim Territories, a world as far coreward as Bajor must have been considered the back of beyond.

669 Well, technically Prylar Otano's monks found it, but.

716 Bastila's assessment of the Order of the Rose is not unique among Jedi, but she's much blunter about it than most more mature members of that order would be - which is, in a way, one of her virtues, though it's certainly not fulfilling any virtuous function here.

754 Not technically true - Utena was defeated twice in the Lost Tournament, and Kate has beaten her several times - but most of the Midgardian members of the Order don't know much about the Lost Tournament, and her duels with Kate tend to be private.

807 A weapon from Knights of the Old Republic. In UF as in that game, the Echani are a humanoid people who prize martial skill above all other virtues.

815 Byakuro.

836 Bastila's greatest strength in combat - her aggression - is also her greatest weakness as a Jedi.

861 Partly because Utena herself is Force-sensitive, though she isn't consciously aware of that yet; and partly because Bastila is too annoyed to concentrate properly.

909 For all her arrogance and lack of emotional balance, Bastila's still an essentially good person; though she wants to humble Utena, she absolutely doesn't want to maim or kill her.

918 It was true, albeit not quite in the terms Bastila's thinking here. The ancient Mandalorians could make melee weapons capable of withstanding lightsabers, and in the modern galaxy there are some exotic alloys that are, if not lightsaber-proof, at least lightsaber-resistant. They tend to be very expensive, though, and the number of weaponsmiths who can work them with sufficient skill to make useful weapons or armor is very limited (doubly so since very few people in the modern galaxy even bother with melee weapons any more). Of course, the Thorn is a magic weapon, and Bastila's limited experience of the world beyond the Jedi Order does not extend to genuine magic - she would sniff at the very idea.

954 Technically, the "rope-a-dope" isn't a single move, but a style of fighting (named by Muhammad Ali) that involves remaining on the defensive and letting one's opponent exhaust himself, then moving in for the kill - not something Utena is known for. In more general terms, it can be applied to any situation in which one feigns an inferior position, then exploits the enemy's overeagerness to seize the illusory opportunity - better known in fencing and military circles as a feint.

978 Had this not worked, the Thorn would have returned to Utena's hand, but as she found a suitable weapon before her peril was sufficient to trigger that enchantment, it remained where it was.

985 Another move from the Knights of the Old Republic animation set; in the PC version, it's invoked by pressing X with a single sword or lightsaber equipped.

1052 I wouldn't be so quick to say that there's anything Yoda can't do, but then, being underestimated is one of his stocks-in-trade.

1130 As Anne Springsteen will note later, there is very little lost between Mace Windu and Bastila's master, Jason Lock.

1226 The Cygnus Spaceworks D77-TC Pelican aerodyne dropship, manufactured (in UF) by the same company that makes the Lambda-class executive shuttle and the Delta-class gunboat. Pelicans, which can carry a dozen troops and a light vehicle such as a Warthog or Napoleon-class mini-tank, are the standard infantry/light armor transport of both White Legion Special Forces and the IPO Tactical Division. They're originally from Halo, in which they serve the same purpose for the UESC Marines.

1301 In Knights of the Old Republic, Bastila's character class is "Jedi Sentinel", a class which splits the difference between the Jedi Guardian's feat-heavy, D&D-fighter-ish makeup and the Jedi Consular's lots-of-Force-Powers, D&D-wizard-ish setup. Sentinels get middling feats and powers, but lots of skill points, making them sort of the equivalent of D&D rogues. They're not an organized subset of the Jedi Order in the game, though Bastila's own approach to Jedi Knighthood has many elements of the rather self-righteous spin Anne puts on the UF Sentinels' mission.

1307 A Latin proverb, usually translated Who watches the watchmen?

1314 "That guy is so one of the asshole Jedi in UF." I forget who said it when The Matrix Reloaded came out - Ardie or Truss, probably - but whoever it was was so right.

1420 Tuncer is named after former Bungie Studios guy Tuncer Deniz. I think he had left Bungie by the time Halo came out, but he worked on the Marathon games.

1431 I love Tuncer's dialogue. I know the Elites speak English in Halo 2, and I don't even care.

1441 Sgt. Stacker, one of the recurring Marines in Halo, is not to be confused with Sgt. Avery Johnson, the character actually called "Sarge". Stacker is voiced by the real Pete Stacker, a Vietnam vet and voice actor who, among much else, also voiced Captain Keyes in the original Halo and is the guy who says "From Comedy Central's world news headquarters in New York, this is The Daily Show with Jon Stewart!"

1560 Valeria comes from E.E. Smith's Lensman books. One of Lensman Kimball Kinnison's closest allies is a Dutch Valerian space marine named vanBuskirk.

1633 A quote from the 1984 cult film Repo Man.

1657 Most of the Repo Men are drawn from the Marines who appear in the background in Halo, but Tucker, Church, and Caboose come from Red vs. Blue. Well, UF-Caboose is actually a composite of Caboose from Red vs. Blue and Father Dougal O'Malley from Father Ted. No, really.

1732 The IPO's regulations - and the Republic of Zeta Cygni's civil laws - regarding the undead were originally formulated to account for vampires, not spectral space marines, but hey, undeath is undeath in the eyes of the law.


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  RE: S4E: In for a Penny... Polychrome Jan-12-07 1
     RE: S4E: In for a Penny... Gryphonadmin Jan-12-07 2
         RE: S4E: In for a Penny... Polychrome Jan-12-07 3
             RE: S4E: In for a Penny... Mephronteam Jan-13-07 4
         RE: S4E: In for a Penny... BobSchroeck Jan-15-07 5
             RE: S4E: In for a Penny... Gryphonadmin Jan-15-07 6
                 RE: S4E: In for a Penny... jadmire Jan-15-07 7
                     RE: S4E: In for a Penny... Verbena Jan-15-07 8
                 RE: S4E: In for a Penny... BobSchroeck Jan-15-07 9
                     RE: S4E: In for a Penny... trigger Jan-25-07 10
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1. "RE: S4E: In for a Penny..."
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   >191 August 12, 2388: Captain America with members of Company E,
>506th Jump Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne Division, UEDF,
>immediately following the Battle of Central Park in New York City.

Is Charles Kallon in this picture?

>1732 The IPO's regulations - and the Republic of Zeta Cygni's
>civil laws - regarding the undead were originally formulated to
>account for vampires, not spectral space marines, but hey, undeath is
>undeath in the eyes of the law.

I'm curious who the vampire(s) are that led to the need for such legislation, since I don't recall any having appeared in UF thusfar.

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2. "RE: S4E: In for a Penny..."
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   >>191 August 12, 2388: Captain America with members of Company E,
>>506th Jump Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne Division, UEDF,
>>immediately following the Battle of Central Park in New York City.
>
>Is Charles Kallon in this picture?

Well, yes. I didn't see the need to mention that in the note, since it says so right in the story text a few lines further down.

>>1732 The IPO's regulations - and the Republic of Zeta Cygni's
>>civil laws - regarding the undead were originally formulated to
>>account for vampires, not spectral space marines, but hey, undeath is
>>undeath in the eyes of the law.
>
>I'm curious who the vampire(s) are that led to the need for such
>legislation, since I don't recall any having appeared in UF thusfar.

The undead make up a statistically insignificant but demographically undeniable segment of the population in almost all urbanized humanoid societies. Of that small but stable population, the vast majority are law-abiding citizens who only wish to go about their unlives in peace, and the laws of most enlightened societies reflect this. Vampyri are by far the most common type of sapient undead to be found in urban areas, mostly because they have the easiest time passing for normal people. You get a few high-function zombies, a spectre now and then, the odd mummy and very occasionally some much rarer, higher-order undead (revenants, now and then a lich), but for the most part it's vamps. One simply doesn't find many barrow-wights or ghasts who want to put up with the tsuris of trying to function in open society.

As for the IPO, several members of the force are undead. Private Church is classified as a spectre (a noncorporeal spirit who still looks like his living self, as opposed to a more indistinct form or one that has become monstrous or unearthly, like wraiths). Oddly enough, the JSA member known as The Spectre is in fact not a spectre under the classification system the IPO uses; she's a revenant. And of course there's Weapon Zero member Mina Murray, who works as a photojournalist (ironic, don't you think?) when not doing the secret bidding of the Inner Circle of the Hellfire Club, and who is not merely a vampire but a first-generation descendent of the royal line of Count Dracula himself.

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3. "RE: S4E: In for a Penny..."
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   >>>191 August 12, 2388: Captain America with members of Company E,
>>>506th Jump Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne Division, UEDF,
>>>immediately following the Battle of Central Park in New York City.
>>
>>Is Charles Kallon in this picture?
>
>Well, yes. I didn't see the need to mention that in the note, since
>it says so right in the story text a few lines further down.

I'm just gonna chalk that one up to basic stupidity on my part and be done with it.

>
>>>1732 The IPO's regulations - and the Republic of Zeta Cygni's
>>>civil laws - regarding the undead were originally formulated to
>>>account for vampires, not spectral space marines, but hey, undeath is
>>>undeath in the eyes of the law.
>>
>>I'm curious who the vampire(s) are that led to the need for such
>>legislation, since I don't recall any having appeared in UF thusfar.
>
>The undead make up a statistically insignificant but demographically
>undeniable segment of the population in almost all urbanized humanoid
>societies. Of that small but stable population, the vast majority are
>law-abiding citizens who only wish to go about their unlives in peace,
>and the laws of most enlightened societies reflect this. Vampyri are
>by far the most common type of sapient undead to be found in urban
>areas, mostly because they have the easiest time passing for normal
>people. You get a few high-function zombies, a spectre now and then,
>the odd mummy and very occasionally some much rarer, higher-order
>undead (revenants, now and then a lich), but for the most part it's
>vamps. One simply doesn't find many barrow-wights or ghasts who want
>to put up with the tsuris of trying to function in open
>society.

Ring, ring.
"BPRD, Hellboy speaking. ... Well, ma'am, what was this ghost doing at the convenience store?... Buying trash bags? Could you give us a description?"
"Larry?"
"(Larry.) Ma'am, I'm afraid we can't do that, you see that ghost you saw is actually a barrow-wight named Larry Jacobson- Yes, ma'am I do know hi- the reason we haven't 'dealt with' him is that he is a legal citizen of the Republic of Z- Ma'am, tolerance is one of the founding princi- Ma'am, Larry is a barrow-wight, which means that his soul is tied to the place he was interred. If we we to forcibly remove him, which we have no reason to do, his soul would dissapate which would be murder... Yes, ma'am, I know he's already dead, however the laws are quite clear, destruction of an undead being is- Yes, ma'am I'm saying there's nothing we can do... Well, ma'am if you feel that stongly I suggest you put it before the electorate... Yes. I'm sure you are... Yes... Well, ma'am I'm sorry we couldn't help you, you have a good evening."
Clang.
"Stupid bitch. Illyana, could you pop over to Larry's place and tell him that Mrs. Eckersley saw him again."
Sigh.

>
>As for the IPO, several members of the force are undead. Private
>Church is classified as a spectre (a noncorporeal spirit who still
>looks like his living self, as opposed to a more indistinct form or
>one that has become monstrous or unearthly, like wraiths). Oddly
>enough, the JSA member known as The Spectre is in fact not a
>spectre under the classification system the IPO uses; she's a
>revenant.

Not too suprising given the Spectre's role as the Spirit of Vengance.
Who was this Spectre in life?

And of course there's Weapon Zero member Mina Murray, who
>works as a photojournalist (ironic, don't you think?) when not doing
>the secret bidding of the Inner Circle of the Hellfire Club, and who
>is not merely a vampire but a first-generation descendent of the royal
>line of Count Dracula himself.

An impressive heritage to say the least.
Is the ressurction of Dracula still opposed by the Belmont family in the 25th century?

Polychrome


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4. "RE: S4E: In for a Penny..."
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   >Not too suprising given the Spectre's role as the Spirit of Vengance.
>Who was this Spectre in life?

As discussed in the Special Assignment 140 discussion it's Christina Kohle of the New Avalon CID.
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5. "RE: S4E: In for a Penny..."
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   >And of course there's Weapon Zero member Mina Murray, who
>works as a photojournalist (ironic, don't you think?)

She wouldn't happen to have a professional associate by the name of Otto von Chriek, now, would she?

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6. "RE: S4E: In for a Penny..."
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   >>And of course there's Weapon Zero member Mina Murray, who
>>works as a photojournalist (ironic, don't you think?)
>
>She wouldn't happen to have a professional associate by the name of
>Otto von Chriek, now, would she?

I'm not following you, Jonesy.

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7. "RE: S4E: In for a Penny..."
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   >>>And of course there's Weapon Zero member Mina Murray, who
>>>works as a photojournalist (ironic, don't you think?)
>>
>>She wouldn't happen to have a professional associate by the name of
>>Otto von Chriek, now, would she?
>
>I'm not following you, Jonesy.
>
Discworld (Terry Pratchett) character, appearing in his novel The Truth. (I never heard of that one before either and only found eleven references when I googled, which goes to show you just how obscure he is.)

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8. "RE: S4E: In for a Penny..."
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   >>>>And of course there's Weapon Zero member Mina Murray, who
>>>>works as a photojournalist (ironic, don't you think?)
>>>
>>>She wouldn't happen to have a professional associate by the name of
>>>Otto von Chriek, now, would she?
>>
>>I'm not following you, Jonesy.
>>
>Discworld (Terry Pratchett) character, appearing in his novel The
>Truth
. (I never heard of that one before either and only found
>eleven references when I googled, which goes to show you just how
>obscure he is.)

Never read the Discworld novels, but if I recall the Weapon Zero BPGD entry correctly, her real (and excessively famous) name is Mina Harker. Not a whole lot of vampires described in UF to begin with, and when she's a childe (to use a WoD term) of Dracula himself...

Then again, the BPGD entry never said anything about a cover as a photojournalist, so YMMV.

This is not to say that Alucard wouldn't be an unbelievably cool addition to UF, mind.


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9. "RE: S4E: In for a Penny..."
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   >>She wouldn't happen to have a professional associate by the name of
>>Otto von Chriek, now, would she?
>I'm not following you, Jonesy.

As others have noted, a Discworld character. A vampire newspaper photographer in fact, which is why I thought the reference would amuse.

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10. "RE: S4E: In for a Penny..."
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   >As others have noted, a Discworld character. A vampire newspaper
>photographer in fact, which is why I thought the reference would
>amuse.
>

<grin> for the Pratchet fan (ah, if only the Patrician had more face time!) it does.

I'm just thrilled with Mina Murray showing up again (the ONLY good thing Alan Moore ever did...although Nemo wasn't bad - just a one tune sort of guy). We haven't seen the League in UF, just had them mentioned in the Babylon files.

Speaking of which - since we're all going to be getting utlra fanboyish while we channel the patience of Zen monks...does any one know where the net version of the Guide or the Bablyon files resides these days? Are we going to need to get organized and actually put one together? Is it Wiki time?

t.
feels project oriented tonight.

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11. "RE: (S54) In for a Penny..."
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>30 Prof. Schepartz is named for Yale University's Milton Harris
>'29 Ph.D. Professor of Chemistry (now there's a title), Dr. Alanna
>Schepartz, who runs the Schepartz Laboratory of Chemical Biology
>there. No particular reason; I went poking around the Web looking for
>the names of prominent living chemists and liked the sound of hers.
>Nothing in Alan Schepartz's demeanor or appearance is intended to
>imply anything about the real Dr. Schepartz.

When he came in, I cast Alan Rickman's Professor Snape as Prof. Schepartz. Later in the scene, though, he's out of character for Snape. Maybe a mellow Snape?

This was caused by the names and the chemistry robe.


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