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Topic ID: 100
Message ID: 4
#4, RE: clucomp and protoculture.
Posted by Phantom on Sep-12-01 at 06:25 AM
In response to message #2
Very Well Done. I agree with this assesment 100%. You really get to
the "Macross" Protoculture concept in 'Macross: Do your Remember Love'
movie (English Sub). I do not rember is "Clash of the Bioriods" (Same
movie different name" was sub or dubbed at this point.
Thanks
Phantom

>There are two types of protoculture; the Macross one and the Robotech
>one. The Macross one is the only one that exists in UF, and that only
>metaphorically.
>
>In Macross, the term "protoculture" was used by the Zentraedi
>to handwave away many of the peculiarities they found in humans, most
>of them being what we would call "love". The Zentraedi is a clone
>race, and thus emotionally retarded in these cases. The lengths we
>humans would go to protect non-combatents was ludicrous in their
>purely military eyes. They also found that our sheer tenacity under
>the worst of odds was because of this "protoculture".
>
>By this, "protoculture" can be translated literally. It means "first
>culture". Zentraedi culture doesn't exist at all. This is why the
>Max/Myria romance is so key to them, and why Minmei was so key to the
>victory (for those, including Minmei herself, who think that this
>whole singing to win a war was stupid, consider Tokyo Rose).
>
>When Macek got his hands on Macross, Southern Cross,
>and Mospaeada, he needed something to link the series
>together on. So he redefined protoculture. Robotech protoculture is
>some kind of organic cold fusion fuel with a mind of its own, created
>by the Invid Flower of Life. Supposedly, this protoculture allowed
>the original Veritechs (Macross Valkyries) to perform their amazing
>stunts; the protoculture "reached out" to the pilots and allowed them
>to semi-psychically control their mecha (in Macross, the semi-psychic
>control was simply helmet-mounted electrodes, if anything, and the
>power plants were fusion).
>
>To see where Macek screwed up and showed us this, look in the later
>eps of the Macross saga. Max and Myria take their baby Dana with them
>to a Zentraedi capital ship. Zentraedi, of course, have never seen a
>baby; they come from the clone tanks fully formed. They introduce the
>child, saying something to the effect of "This is the power of
>protoculture!". I'm sorry, but making babies with jet fuel is just a
>little bit too kinky for me, thank you very much...
>
>All this was a bit too far-fetched for us, so we decided that Robotech
>protoculture didn't exist. The term may show up in the original
>Macross form if we ever get into Zentraedi or Meltrandi in a later
>story.
>
>As a side note, this slightly changes the meaning of the word
>"Veritech". Robotech invented the term, and applied it to all its
>mecha, implying that they were all of the same series. Thus, the
>Alpha was an improved Valkyrie (which clearly it isn't). In UF, the
>word "Veritech" has a rough meaning of "variable geometry" (adj.) or
>"variable geometry macha" (n.) Cybertronians could likely be called
>"veritech", but would prefer if you didn't.
>
> --rR