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Topic ID: 164
Message ID: 21
#21, RE: TP and the Force
Posted by Gryphon on Oct-24-01 at 01:32 AM
In response to message #17
>>Actually, would it be possible to train in Kolinar and Jedi? Or would
>>the emotional supression required of Kolinar interfere with Jedi
>>training? It would certainly help in avoiding the Dark Side, if it
>>were possible.
>
>Hmmm. Considering that Jedi train themselves to be dispassionate, I'd
>guess that the Way of Kolinar would promote that aspect. Certainly,
>they wouldn't be tempted by the Dark Side.

Kolinahr is the highest level of the Way of Surak - supposedly, the total obliteration of emotion. That wouldn't be particularly useful to a Jedi; they're supposed to be in control and dispassionate, but not an emotional void.

A less ardently emotionless (yes, I said that) Vulcan, one who has achieved less in the Way of Surak, would, I suspect, go farther in Jedi training, if only because he would have less rigidity in his ways of thinking.

A Vulcan who doesn't follow the Way of Surak's emotional training, but does have the usual discipline of intellect instilled by the Vulcan education system, would be pretty fine padawan material...

As it happens, I'm toying around with the designs for a Vulcan character who doesn't follow Surak's teachings - not out of a sense of rebellion or because of a mixed-blood issue, but because that's the way she was raised. The Surak quite arrogantly present themselves as The Vulcan Culture, but I believe that's about as accurate as, say, the Chinese presenting themselves as The People Of Earth.

The group the embryonic character belongs to are all for intellectual discipline and logical thinking, but they declined to embrace the emotional purging of Surak's ways back in the day. They recognized it as an unhealthy way to live and correctly predicted the "if all you have is a hammer" mindset that the Surak obsession with logic and reason gives rise to. Rather than ditch the planet like those who would become the Romulans did, this group kept their city - it's in a part of the planet the 'average' Vulcan wouldn't want to live in anyway - and are proud of their distinct culture, even if the vast majority would really prefer it if they did move to another planet. :)

This may have nothing at all to do with the idea of a Vulcan Jedi, but the idea of combining Vulcan intellectual discipline with Jedi rather than Surak-type emotional training reminded me that I've been mulling it over lately, and I decided to share. :)

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