>As for how they compare to the Jedi, think about this: Jedi routinely
>lie, deceive, and manipulate, to achieve their ends. That is
>canon. ("Darth Vader betrayed and murdered your father.")

Heh... my take on that was always that ole Ben was just simplifying a very complicated and morally gray-edged story that he knew Luke was too stupid to understand, in the interests of not being there trying to explain it to him all week. :)

>Otherwise, they
>would have arranged for Paul's death and ordered Jessica to have a
>daughter.

They tried, on both counts. It didn't work.

(And this isn't the "argue about Dune" bboard, so I'm not planning to go any further with this, JSYK. :)

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