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Topic ID: 167
Message ID: 6
#6, RE: Vulcans, Force, BG--The Revenge Continues
Posted by Laudre on Oct-25-01 at 00:56 AM
In response to message #5
LAST EDITED ON Oct-25-01 AT 00:57 AM (EDT)

>Personally I think it's a worthy matchup, and would even be a nifty
>way to describe what drove the Jedi to develop lightsabers in the
>first place. I know I'd feel a bit better having one while fighting
>someone who could decapitate me with a single well-placed, impossibly
>fast kick. Heh.

Hmmm. I dunno; the Bene Gesserit's stated goal was to create a messianic man, the Kwisatz Haderach. Their avenues to power really didn't allow men to achieve more than a small modicum of power; the only one who could become a male Bene Gesserit would be the Kwisatz Haderach. Their methods -- the breeding program -- might be the type of thing that Jedi might interfere with, if it threatened whatever government they worked for. However, Jedi tend to deal with more immediate threats, and something that subtle could easily escape their notice.

>>>Sisterhood.
>>>
>>>Sith.
>>>
>>>Makes sense...

...You're kidding, right?

The Sith began as an offshoot of the Jedi Order, in the canon universe. If the BG exist or existed in UF, I suppose that a female Jedi who left the order and joined the Sisterhood could well have turned to the Dark Side to promote the Bene Gesserit's agenda, eventually leading to the Sith.

>Specific sisters of the order were well centered and genuinely cool.
>For the most part they're too steeped in the dogma of the Sisterhood
>itself to reach that point, though. They'd probably get along very
>well with Surak Vulcans, though (if I said that right...my ST
>knowledge is a little thin).

Surakian Vulcans, maybe? In ST canon they're just "Vulcans"; they don't have any real name to qualify them as being any different. Vulcans, as a rule, follow the Way of Surak, and claim to be unemotional, though there are specific examples of Vulcans who seem to be a bit on the arrogant side (such as the Vulcans who played a baseball game against the crew of Deep Space Nine). In ST canon, the Vulcans who disagreed with the Way of Surak, even though they agreed that they had been on the verge of self-destruction, left the planet and became the Romulans. So the Vulcans from Vulcan itself have been brought up in a culture where they're taught the discipline to suppress and (theoretically, anyway) eliminate their emotions. They just don't have any model for any other kind of behavior when they're growing up. I'm personally under the impression that, despite everything they say about logic, canon Vulcans aren't completely emotionless; they simply don't allow it to affect their judgment, except when logic does not provide a clear answer. Remember, Spock has completed the Way of Kolinahr, and he says to the Vulcan ensign in Undiscovered Country (I forget her name) that "Logic is the beginning of wisdom, not the end." And while I'd have to sit through at least part of The Motionless Picture again to see the only other canon example of Kolinahr adepts (or whatever they're supposed to be called), I'm under the impression that such attitudes are not uncommon among mature Vulcans. I don't have any of the books from the LUG iteration of the Trek RPG, so I can't say for sure, and they're not really canon, anyway.

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