>(1) I, for one, can't stand Heinlein;
Eh. Take him or leave him.
>and (3) most of the settings both authors used are -not- terribly fun
>ones. The Place in its variant incarnations is the only item I can
>understand a sentient, having his or her choice of worlds, -wanting-
>to visit, much less live in.
Deathkiller, maybe. _After_ the Mind takes hold.
(But not if you're big on privacy...)