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Forum Name: Undocumented Features General
Topic ID: 2002
Message ID: 3
#3, RE: The Antianeira Incident
Posted by Gryphon on Dec-09-08 at 07:39 PM
In response to message #1
>> There had to be a way out of
>> Logan's snare without breaking any bones.
>
>Given that its Logan, he of the unbreakable bones, I'd take that as a
>given.

Geoff's thinking about his own bones, given that he's the one in the snare. He doesn't give a crap about Logan's at the moment.

>> Hanging on that wall was a badge-shaped shield. The top of it was
>> painted blue, with three white stars; the rest of it was painted in red
>> and white vertical stripes.
>
>Well, Darn, I keep visualizing the round version they gave him in the
>Avengers era.

Actually, he received the round one from FDR in 1944; it was the replacement for his original shield-shaped one, the disposition of which we see here. He still has that one (or, well, he's loaned it to Spitfire, but he still knows where it is).

Cap's original shield - and indeed his original costume, which in UF he still wears, sans the Enemy Ace mask - is clearly seen in these photos of the Marvel Select Ultimate Cap action figure.

>> Geoff glanced over. "Minipax. One of the Caesars - I forget which
>> one - declared the Pax Romana.
>
>Julius hisownself, I think, which makes Uncle J even a better
>codename.

It was actually the 18th-century historian Edward Gibbon who coined the phrase pax Romana; he was referring to the period of relative peace and prosperity that marked roughly the first two centuries of the Roman Empire, from Augustus to Marcus Aurelius (roughly 27 BC to AD 180). But Geoff and I figured that whoever came up with the term "Uncle Julie" in the thieves' argot of Roanapur probably didn't look it up either. :)

>Ah. so the invisble part doesnt work while its shut down.

It can be left on, but they were in Roanapur openly, and the whole point was to get noticed, so...

>Makes sense, otherwise you could have one heck of a time finding it later...

"Everyone remember where we parked."

>an Incarnation of Diana with a sense of humor??? RUN AWAY!!!!!

Ours is basically the Justice League Unlimited version, who has been known to make a joke now and then (and flirt with Batman, come to that).

>Now this slipped by me on my first reading, but for some reason I
>thought E(CA)'s were strictly for Black Omega's use

The regular Psi Corps Enforcement Division has Enforcer (Cybernetically Augmented) personnel, but they're not the same as the ones Black Omega has. They're volunteers from Earthforce Special Forces and have received considerably less, er, invasive cerebral conditioning.

>Developed by a particulary Psychotic Psy cop named Johnathan Crane, I
>presume?

The late Dr. Crane was a bent psychiatrist who lived on Kane's World in the early 2300s, but his work is still avidly studied by certain parties a century later...

>No mistaking it. Earthdome decided to nuke the Island to save it,
>Geoff.

Well, no... they decided to nuke the island to nuke it.

>> I've... " He trailed off, was
>> silent for several seconds, and then finished quietly, "... seen them
>> before.
>
>And I'm sure that we're not just talking about the Fat Man and Little
>Boy, either.

No indeed; Cap was frozen solid in an irregular solar orbit by the time the US employed its newly developed atomic arsenal against Japan (and those weren't thermonuclear weapons anyway; those weren't developed until the 1950s). He's talking about the nukes employed during the Pacification Wars (sometimes called World War V) of the mid-24th century (the pacification in question was various independent nations being forced to accept the Olympus one-world government, and in the interest of fairness it should be pointed out that it was not Olympus that employed them), and possibly during the War of Corporate Occupation (2387-2388) as well.

>Come to think of it, didnt you say that the nations got
>to tossing those lil firecrackers at each other at least once, if not
>more, in between first contact and the founding of the Earth Alliance?

As of 2410 in UF, there have been six conflicts on Earth that historians have (mostly) agreed to title world wars. There's controversy over all but the first two, but for the most part the consensus goes:

  • World War I (aka the Great War): 1914-1918, Entente Powers vs. Central Powers

  • World War II (known as the First Great Patriotic War in Russia): 1939-1945, Allied Powers vs. Axis Powers;first war to involve nuclear weapons

  • World War III (aka the Post-Contact Wars): 1999-2004, United Nations vs. Anti-Alien Alliance (limited use of tactical nuclear weapons)

  • World War IV (aka the Second American Civil War): 2200s, precise dates not established, Euro-American Union vs. Sino-American Alliance; division of US into eastern states (remnant US) and western states (Imperial Americana); extensive nuclear exchanges

  • World War V (aka the Pacification Wars): mid-2300s, precise dates not established, Olympus vs. anti-Olympus hold-out nations with no central organization; several significant nuclear incidents, but no strategic use of such weapons

  • World War VI (aka the Earth theatre of the War of Corporate Occupation): 2387-2388, Olympus vs. GENOM Corporation; very limited nuclear employment (GENOM's preferred terror tactic was orbital bombardment)

(This somewhat controversial but generally accepted list is why Corwin makes an offhanded reference to people expecting World War VII to break out at the wedding in S5M2 Clarion Call.)

>Lessee, Marty used Serena/Usagi in "Girl who knew to much," Ami had a
>bit part in NXE, now Makoto. That just leaves Rei and Minako.

Mina also had a very brief appearance in NXE.

>> Earth Alliance President Ciaran Ndege
>
>Who? I thought Greely took over as Clark's Toady once Clark got
>hisself elected to the Federation Senate...

Indeed he did. Funny thing about political offices - they change hands sometimes...

>Mm. Carni,,, carni... Howthehoek was that spelled again?

A Torre da Carne (The Tower of Meat).

>and the name? was that Cap's birth name?

Er, no, that'd be Steven Anthony Rogers.

>or the name of the scientst who headed the America project?

Nope, his name was Abraham Erskine (codename Josef Reinstein).

At the time Steve Rogers became Captain America (and for his entire WWII career as Cap), General George C. Marshall, Jr., was the U.S. Army Chief of Staff, the Army's highest-ranking officer and thus, apart from FDR and the Secretary of War, Cap's boss. (After the war he served as Harry Truman's Secretary of State and later, briefly, his Secretary of Defense; in the former capacity he was the architect and namesake of the Marshall Plan to rebuild war-torn Europe, which won him the Nobel Peace Prize in 1953 - sadly, only after he was savagely denounced and his reputation damaged by that perennial superstar of early-1950s hypocrisy and stupidity, Sen. Joseph McCarthy.)

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