This thread's lain for a few days, but I just had one occur to me.IF Gryph doesn't TOTALLY throw out EVERYTHING from Day of Infamy, then we can assume that the Honorverse books are NOT fictional (at least, in part), because I distinctly remember a reference to the Manticore Star Navy helping to clear Enigma Sector. Once my (admittedly wierd) memory supplied this information, I got a neat little thrill imagining Utena et al. on one of the summer Valiant cruises getting invited to dine with the Salamander herself.