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Topic ID: 469
Message ID: 13
#13, RE: Litcrits who squick, today on Oprah.
Posted by Shadowhavoc on Jan-31-02 at 01:35 AM
In response to message #10
>>>By
>>>the end of "SoS2:7:Ceremony & Celebration", Kate and Juri have
>>>apparently consummated their relationship. That just creeps me out.
>>>Honestly. Couldn't they do it *between* stories? And for
>>>balance, yes, the first encounters in UF1 creeped me out too.
>>
>>The fuck, man? Are you that easily squicked? I mean, it's not like the
>>entire sequence of events was described in minute detail, in
>>either situation.
>
>Yeah, now that you mention it, this did strike me as pretty funny. I
>mean, I've always considered myself some what timid about
>depicting the sex lives of my characters. When I wrote Exodus 2:4:
>The Day the Universe Changed
, I hesitated for some time wondering
>whether to release it as it came out, but finally decided that I had
>to - the dialogue that ran through it was too important to leave out,
>and revamping the sequence to tame it down would have - if you'll
>pardon the expression - emasculated it. So I left it, and fretted
>about it.
>
>As it happens, I've got a couple of bits planned for later parts of
>the Symphony that tread similar terrain. It comes with the
>territory, I think - as I've already said (or tried to say, anyway),
>love and sex, both connected and exclusive of each other, are critical
>themes here, and there's no escaping them. Not for me, and (if you
>keep reading) not for you. I'm a little uncomfortable with the notion
>- I was raised in New England and there's part of my soul that will
>always be Puritan no matter how the rest of me rails against it - but
>I'm pressing on anyway because I think it's important, not
>because I'm going for cheap thrills.
>
>So consider this fair warning: it won't end here. It's not a story
>about sex, and I promise never to use the word "cum", but I'm
>not going to shuffle these matters off screen, because
>
>a) that's narratively dumb - what am I supposed to do if I move it to
>"between stories" as suggested, open the next part with "While we
>weren't looking, something naughty happened"?
>
>b) Well, I've already covered b above, so I suppose I don't need to go
>into it again, except to reiterate one more time: it's
>important.

>
I've been reading mature (for lack of a better word) works since I was thirteen. Extreme amounts of swearing, bloodshed, violence, detailed torture scenes and whatnot; and I've got to say this: When the writers of EPU create certain images, yeah they have their limits (PG-13) that they set upon themselves, I just think they're doing it in, um, in a certain way that gets things across without becoming crass in the descriptions. I'm tempted to type an example, but I don't feel right doing that.

Taste? Class? Style?--No that don't sound right, either.