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Forum Name: Undocumented Features General
Topic ID: 469
Message ID: 5
#5, RE: SoS's crypto-lesbian subtext...
Posted by Wedge on Jan-31-02 at 00:57 AM
In response to message #0
Not a flame, please reread if you think it is.

>No, *this* is where I will be narrow-minded and object: (2)
>Most of these characters having sex are *teenagers*, well under
>the age of 18.

Please explain how 17 is well under the age of 18? As of C+C, Kate is 17, and I don't think anyone else who's currently being sexually active is under the age of 16, though I might be mistaken about that fact. The only spot I think I might be wrong would be with Miki.

><uncle>ONE MORE THING!</uncle> --I have another objection, an
>idiosyncracy you could call it, against: (3) Sex in the stories I
>read: specifically, anything describing before, after, and especially
>-- and thank the Muses that EPU doesn't do *this* -- during.
>(I can name SF pro-authors who are horrible horrible offenders.) By
>the end of "SoS2:7:Ceremony & Celebration", Kate and Juri have
>apparently consummated their relationship. That just creeps me out.
>Honestly. Couldn't they do it *between* stories? And for
>balance, yes, the first encounters in UF1 creeped me out too. For
>reference: the scene in "Hopelessly Lost" when Gryph forces himself to
>drink coffee to dispel the image of Zoner with Sylia.

Errr, Hopelessly Lost isn't Undocumented Features. Apples and oranges, even if it is SI. Different Character set.

Also, have you ever seen any of Revolutionary Girl Utena? I've only seen the movie, and read some synopsis stuff on the web, and I know that it's steeped in sexual subtext, some hidden, some quite blatent. To have ignored it completely would have made the RGU characters no longer the characters that Gryphon wanted to work with. Personally, I think he's done a stellar job in keeping it relatively clean while holding them all up to the characters they are, which is one of the reasons I'm so addicted to the fiction on this site.

You're not really voicing criticism here, you voicing personal opinion. Nothing wrong with that, but I think you're confusing the two. If you don't like that kind of thing, why are you reading it? For it not to be there would be a travesty, in my personal opinion. And also in my opinion, what happened between Juri and Kate at the end of C+C was in it's way a bigger payoff than anyone else in the story got that day--saying a lot given the events at hand--for the simple reason that they both so richly deserved the comfort and love of each other after the road they've been on to that point.

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Chad Collier
Digital Bitch
J. Random VFX Company
And please, dear goddess, don't read NXE.
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