>The thing that ticks me off about all the White Wolf material I've
>seen, aside from the consistently excruciating pretention level, is
>the fact that they're all based on the central theme, "Your character
>is inevitably doomed.[1] Try and do stuff for as long as you can,
>but sooner or later, no matter how careful you are, you're going to
>have to start all over."

Have you seen Trinity (psionics/space opera) or Aberrant (near future superhero)? Those are both set in different time periods of the same universe (not World of Darkness), along with Adventure, WW's upcoming 30's pulp fiction game. Can't say whether they would be "pretentious" or not by your standards, because I've never really looked at WW's World of Darkness games, apart from Hunter. For some reason, the thought of playing a bloodsucking demon or ghost never seemed to appeal to me.

Eric J. Heckathorn
ericjh@stargate.net