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#0, Weird Car Thing!
Posted by The Traitor on Apr-20-22 at 10:16 AM
Regular Car Reviews: The 1995 Grumman LLV

This is an interesting video about why you can't own a 1995 Grumman LLV... and how you can. It's a very pleasant story about an equally pleasant car; there's just something very satisfying about the LLV, from an outsider's perspective at least. I hope people enjoy. =]

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"She's old, she's lame, she's barren too, // "She's not worth feed or hay, // "But I'll give her this," - he blew smoke at me - // "She was something in her day." -- Garnet Rogers, Small Victory

FiMFiction.net: we might accept blatant porn involving the cast of My Little Pony but as God is my witness we have standards.


#1, RE: Weird Car Thing!
Posted by StClair on Apr-25-22 at 03:47 AM
In response to message #0
Please tell me I'm not the only one who expanded that acronym as "Lunar Landing Vehicle".
(Yes, I know, that's actually the LEM.)

#2, RE: Weird Car Thing!
Posted by Rabe on Apr-25-22 at 04:43 AM
In response to message #1
>Please tell me I'm not the only one who expanded that acronym as
>"Lunar Landing Vehicle".
>(Yes, I know, that's actually the LEM.)
Lunar Excursion Module for the guys in the back

#4, RE: Weird Car Thing!
Posted by Gryphon on Apr-25-22 at 02:54 PM
In response to message #2
>>Please tell me I'm not the only one who expanded that acronym as
>>"Lunar Landing Vehicle".
>>(Yes, I know, that's actually the LEM.)
>Lunar Excursion Module for the guys in the back

Fun fact: NASA dropped the "Excursion" part midway through development, on the grounds that it made the mission sound like something you would do to earn a Boy Scout merit badge, making the official initials just LM, but everyone below the executive level kept calling it the LEM even thought the "E" no longer stood for anything.

--G.
As an aside, if I had been running the Boy Scouts of America at the time, I would totally have created a Lunar Excusion merit badge and issued it to any of the Apollo astronauts who happened to have been Boy Scouts, which was probably a lot of them.
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#3, RE: Weird Car Thing!
Posted by Gryphon on Apr-25-22 at 02:51 PM
In response to message #0
I remember when these things replaced the old right-hand-drive Jeep DJs the U.S. Postal Service had used for ages and ages and ages. Some people around here were really upset about it. "Oh my god, I have to look at that delivering the mail for the next umpteen years?!" Wait until those as are still alive get a load of the NGDV. :)

Me, I'd like to get hold of an LLV and do it up in the '70s USPS DJ livery, which was long gone by the time they were made in real life, because I dig anachronisms (and also because it's cool-looking).

--G.
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#5, RE: Weird Car Thing!
Posted by The Traitor on Apr-26-22 at 05:49 AM
In response to message #3
Alas, I think that would be double-super-turbo-illegal. Impersonating a postal worker and such. They're gonzo strict about that shit. It comes up in the video that it counts as impersonating a postal worker if someone just assumes you are one and you don't immediately tell them otherwise. Having USPS livery, even of the anachronistic kind, is probably right out.

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"She's old, she's lame, she's barren too, // "She's not worth feed or hay, // "But I'll give her this," - he blew smoke at me - // "She was something in her day." -- Garnet Rogers, Small Victory

FiMFiction.net: we might accept blatant porn involving the cast of My Little Pony but as God is my witness we have standards.

news just in: traitor arrives at party, poops it.


#6, RE: Weird Car Thing!
Posted by Mephron on Apr-26-22 at 11:43 AM
In response to message #5
>Alas, I think that would be double-super-turbo-illegal. Impersonating
>a postal worker and such. They're gonzo strict about that shit.
>It comes up in the video that it counts as impersonating a postal
>worker if someone just assumes you are one and you don't immediately
>tell them otherwise. Having USPS livery, even of the anachronistic
>kind, is probably right out.

So we put Reiliel the Griffin on the side and put "EPU Official Editorial Vehicle" in as the text, and "Not A Mail Carrier" on the back and on reversed letters on the front of the hood, and Gryph is golden.

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Jen Dantes - Darth Mephron
Haberdasher to Androids, Dark Lady of Sith Tech Support.
"And Remember! Google is your Friend!!"

so you can read it in rear view windows, that's why.


#7, RE: Weird Car Thing!
Posted by Gryphon on Apr-26-22 at 04:08 PM
In response to message #5
>Alas, I think that would be double-super-turbo-illegal. Impersonating
>a postal worker and such. They're gonzo strict about that shit.
>It comes up in the video that it counts as impersonating a postal
>worker if someone just assumes you are one and you don't immediately
>tell them otherwise. Having USPS livery, even of the anachronistic
>kind, is probably right out.

According to the wikimedia metadata, the vehicle in the photograph is privately owned, so, there's that. Admittedly, the USPS hasn't used the DJ for something like 30 years now, in addition to the outdated livery and logo, but on the other hand, no LLV has ever been officially seen in that livery, since they went to the all-white paint scheme years before it was introduced. To be on the safe side, one might do well to wait until all the LLVs are out of the fleet, and/or adjust the markings for parody purposes, as Meph suggests.

Anyway, as far as I know, the logo itself is the only part that would be legally actionable, (assuming the USPS has been canny enough to maintain the trademark on it, even though it hasn't been used in decades). "The car is painted dark blue below the fender line and white above, with a red cheatline" is not the kind of thing one can trademark.

Also, I don't have any money and the things are not officially for sale anyway, so...

--G.
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