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#15, RE: ranting about Star Trek VII
Posted by Laudre on Nov-29-01 at 11:06 PM
In response to message #11
>>>I would, except that a) Generations sucked basically from the get-go
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>>Of course. It was odd numbered.
>
>The problem with that scheme (odd bad, even good) is that Star Trek IV
>is a REALLY bad movie.

Sure, if by "REALLY bad movie" you mean "actually quite a good movie."

The Voyage Home remains the single most successful effort at Trek comedy, and is therefore quite entertaining, and has real tension, solid characterizations (and even some development, on Spock's part), and performances that I quite enjoy. It's not a bad movie because it lacks explosions or other vastly overdone idiocy.

Let's review:

Star Trek: The Motion Picture: Yawn.
Star Trek: The Motion Picture: The Director's Edition: Good, and not just in an "oh my God, it no longer sucks" way. It's real, intelligent, honest science fiction, moreso than Trek ever has been before or since.
Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan: A film that can be described as truly poetic, in every way, and it has the greatest Trek villain of all time.
Star Trek III: The Search for Spock: ...What? Okay, let's accept its existence as a necessary bridge between the ending of The Wrath of Khan and The Voyage Home.
Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home: It's funny, intelligent (though I still have to wonder how long humpbacks are going to stay "regenerated" without more than one mated pair), and is a great Spock movie on top of that.
Star Trek V: The Final Frontier: Utterly forgettable, and verging on character assassination in places. Trek and this kind of "theology" don't mix. (Nor most kinds, for that matter.)
Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country: Ahh, yes. A mystery movie, an adventure film, and one of the best handlings of Klingon culture in Trek canon. And a great deal of continuity, too.
Star Trek: Generations: Well, watching Brent Spiner play an emotional Data was quite entertaining ("This is revolting!" "More?" "Please!"), but, other than that, this movie was only useful for getting the Enterprise D out of the way to make way for the much better-looking (especially on the big screen) Sovereign-class Enterprise E.
Star Trek: First Contact: Just plain kicked ass. It had much of the humor of The Voyage Home, and featured a riveting space combat and a downright creepy portrayal of the Borg, their best portrayal since "The Best of Both Worlds." (Let's just forget their emasculation on Voyager... well, let's just forget all of Voyager, while we're at it.)
Star Trek: Insurrection: It tried. It really did. And it had its moments, and excepting Robert Wise's recut of The Motion Picture, it's the best of the odd-numbered films; that is to say, the characterizations are on-target, and it even had a sense of humor, just that the plot wasn't there.
Star Trek: Nemesis: Oh, wait, that one's not out until next year. Still, it sounds better than Insurrection.

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