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Forum Name: Symphony of the Sword/The Order of the Rose
Topic ID: 200
Message ID: 5
#5, RE: Visibility.
Posted by wsr on Jun-01-07 at 02:28 PM
In response to message #2
>>There are no gay boys
>Well, apart from Beld Marmo, and Garon Dessler does make a pass at
>Devlin once, only Devlin's too drunk to notice.

_Doh_

I retract the claim, and blame it on staying up 'til past midnight every night from when I started reading until when I finished, and the night I spent out pulling security while Iraqi Army guys moved concrete barriers around 'til four in the morning . . .

>Oh, and there's all
>that subtext with Akio and Touga (who, if you take their wretched
>mistreatment of Nanami into account, meet your "male-male-female"
>criteria for some twisted value of "meet"), the latter of whom has, in
>the past, at least tried to score with both Miki and Saionji.

Akio's a demon, so I didn't even think of him ^^; But I count EPLs, so EPGs should count, too . . .

Akio never reads as doing anything for love, or even lust, it's all power and dominance.

>>no explanation why
>Didn't come up. Simple as that.

Having forgotten Beld, it was an issue. Having remembered him, and having remembered being amused by Garon's pass, the issue fades -- there's no need to mention why there's no gay boys if they're just boring ^^;

>Want it even balder? I can hook you up. It's real simple: I'm not
>into that, and I tend to mostly write about what I'm into.
<snippage>

Exactly. Never said you shouldn't.

On the other hand, a few of the characters would notice, either because it's unusual for them or because they had their gaydar twigged -- not necessarily by named characters, just the couple in the booth at Chets, or the trio walking down the sidewalk with a few shopping bags, unless they are hiding or not there.

Corwin -- he'd never bat an eye, because for him it's familiar and uninteresting both.

Anthy'd probably get a kick out of it, any time she notices, the way I think maybe Iraq isn't entirely screwed up when I see a pair of schoolgirls or bearded guys walking hand-in-hand, even though I know it's not nearly as good an indicator over here as it would be stateside.

>Double standard? Probably. Woefully under-representational of a rich
>and vibrant section of our great tapestry of life? Certainly. But
>that's the way I roll sometimes.

Don't take this as an attack at all -- it's just something that wouldn't let go of me after I noticed it, even if I did notice it during a bout of sleep-deprived forgetfullness.

>>Rather more annoying is the way Anthy and Utena seem to have fallen
>>straight into Lesbian Bed Death. They are married on the same day
>>Anthy is rescued from Cephiro, sent off for only a three day
>>honeymoon, and then we have no more on screen physical affection
>>between them than they share with any of the other females.

>Oh, now you're just reaching. They only went on a three-day honeymoon
>because they only had three days,

Right. And neither of them is given to wistful sighing or romantic twaddle, but it comes off as very anti-climatic, as if _all_ they're feeling about being back together is relieved.

>and as for the rest, well,
>just because I'm not the go-to guy for lurid detail doesn't mean
>they're not gettin' it on.

Yep, but you're painting a picture with words here, and the picture is generally clear, well-rendered, but passionless. They're very comfortable with each other. They trust each other. They just don't come off as _into_ each other. Adorable isn't lovely isn't pretty isn't beautiful isn't sexy.

>It's just that this is a mental TV show most of the time, and there's a lot of
>stuff that doesn't happen on screen, you know?

Yes, but there are ways of showing what is happening without showing it: we see Kirk pulling his boots on in the morning in ST:TOS, or Misa zipping up her top in _Macross: Do You Remember Love_, or Tara's little crooked `isn't she lovely' smiles on BtvS.

It is in such ways that we know most of the named characters are both getting some, and liking it . . .

Sorry if I've come off as accusatory, as that wasn't my intent.