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Forum Name: Symphony of the Sword/The Order of the Rose
Topic ID: 303
Message ID: 8
#8, RE: S2E1a Quarantena
Posted by Gryphon on Jun-28-11 at 01:49 PM
In response to message #7
>9: So, is it a sonata because unlike all the interludes, it has more
>then Corwin and Utena at the core?

>9: So, is it a sonata because unlike all the interludes, it has more
>then Corwin and Utena at the core?

Pretty much, yeah - they're in it and they play an important role, but it's not really about their own shared story arc, if you like.

>21: I'm not familiar with the music, but
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-kckBPRJvA gave me all the familiarity
>I needed. I agree with the up-poster who mentioned that it had a great
>set of rhythms to it matching well with the story.

It's the part where the percussion comes in that really hooked me, I think. This same leitmotif turns out repeatedly in the Series 5 music, but never elsewhere with quite so much impact. (And the organ, a little later.)

>47: Nice touch with the magnetic clamps in the gloves, but why bother?
> Is it easier to 'crawl' along a ship then 'walk'?

Well, in this situation it makes navigating a little easier because it gets your face closer to the surface, but mostly it's just a more cinematic visual.

>115: I wonder if that should be Corwin's worshipers version of Pater
>Noster. "Corwin of the Ravenhair, hear my plea. My math is right. My
>cause is just. This plan will work, so long as you don't let me fuck
>this up." or something.

Heh, I like that. Any prayer to Corwin or his mother should obligatorily include "my math is right," and anyone as dialed into the early Earth space scene as Corwin would naturally welcome the callback to Shepard's Prayer. :)

>208: Every single time I see Stick, I'm reminded of my...indignation
>is too strong a word, but the closest I can come up with, that he'd
>named a valkryie's weapon, one made of Yggdrasil no less..STICK. It's
>amusing now, but it seemed so flippant to me at the time.

Maybe it sounds badder-ass in Alvish. Though, admittedly, very little sounds badder-ass in Alvish.

>322: So, even though she's posted to the Hekademos (Nice name there,
>btw.) her 'ship' name is still nar Rayya. Is that because, despite
>where she lives, her parents are still responsible for her 'cause she
>hasn't done her pilgrimage?

Right, she's still a minor. The Hekademos is essentially a boarding school, so she's there all the time, but officially she's still a member of the Rayya's crew. It's like when kids go out of state to college. They usually still have driver's licenses from the state where the bills get mailed to.

>414: Ok, the joke, I get. Corwin getting the joke, I get. How does
>Utena get the joke? Or does she just realize that Tali got Corwin's
>goat, and finds that amusing?

She worked part of it out from context, and the rest is, yes, just because of Corwin's reaction.

>453: I grew up in an agricultural community, so I understand, in
>theory, why Americans get summer off, but it still seems stupid to me.

Up in Aroostook County, where my parents come from, a lot of the schools still take two or three weeks off in October, too, for the potato harvest. Which is doubly superfluous these days, since a) there's not nearly as much potato farming up there as there used to be and b) the kids mostly just go play Nintendo for the month anyway, since the harvesting is all done by machines now.

>681: Man, I understand he thinks it's his duty, but I read this as
>Rael is basically dooming the people on his ship so that he can
>hopefully die with his
>wife. That's...either I'm really mis-reading him, or he needs to die
>in a fire.

All I'll say to that is that if that is his motivation, he's not consciously aware of it. To him it's a simple matter, because at heart Rael'Zorah vas Rayya is a very simple man. There is right and there is wrong; there are the General Orders and there is not following them. He was a maverick once in his youth, and it worked out for him that one time, but instead of giving him a taste for it (as with his friend Han'Gerrel), that just convinced him that he'd been lucky and he shouldn't tempt fate that way again. Now, though still a relatively young man (nearly 40), he's almost completely unprepared to take any unprescribed action, to the point where people who are so prepared - like his daughter - make him angry (probably because they scare him a bit).

There are those who say that the "old" Rael is still lurking in there someplace, waiting for an opportunity to burst out and do something really off-the-board, but fewer and fewer of those people believe it will ever happen as time goes by. As we see him here, Rael probably fears and detests that guy most of all. It's really very sad, though at this point in her life all Tali can see is that, to use a technical term, he sucks.

>774: Well, can they?

Yes. We saw that in Star-Crossed. Their suits are built to deal with it, though, unlike the one Utena's wearing.

>977: Or someone fully aware of the situation, who wants this fever to
>succeed. that would have been *my* internal reaction.

Or, possibly, someone who's got such a fever going on that he's become utterly, irrationally paranoid and thinks someone is trying to poison everyone in the ship.

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