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Forum Name: Symphony of the Sword/The Order of the Rose
Topic ID: 425
Message ID: 13
#13, RE: Also, For the Record
Posted by Prince Charon on Apr-19-14 at 11:05 PM
In response to message #9
>>I'm not saying the modern-day Ukrainians don't have plenty of latitude
>>for grievance there, obviously, nor that the modern Russian attitude
>>that one can wind that tape back has any validity whatever, but
>>terminologically, if you go back far enough...
>
>"Far enough" being just shy of 100 years. Ukraine only starts to come
>into being in 1917, (before that it was part of Russia, the Ottoman
>Empire, Poland, Lithuania, the Khanate of the Crimea or the Khanate of
>the Golden Horde, depending on location and year).

Hence Putin's claim that Ukraine 'is not a state'. Yeah, the Ukrainians have good reasons to be resentful and angry.

'... some damn fool thing...'


"They planned their campaigns just as you might make a splendid piece of harness. It looks very well; and answers very well; until it gets broken; and then you are done for. Now I made my campaigns of ropes. If anything went wrong, I tied a knot; and went on."
-- Arthur Wellesley, First Duke of Wellington