LAST EDITED ON Aug-15-14 AT 07:25 AM (EDT)
 
>>So, all their successes are actually done by someone else, or don't
>>count. And all the fuckups are their fault. Got it.
>
>What successes?

The ones I listed in the previous post that you claimed didn't count, because they were actually the evil plan of Clark's bosses instead.

>>So was Nazi Germany. So is North Korea, Zimbabwe and (some would say)
>>Russia.
>
>... Nazi German was being run by people who were deliberately trying
>to make it fail? Wha?

Nope. To the people in power in those countries, what they were doing made (to them at least) perfect sense. Because here's the thing. Right now, we know of one person in the entire Earth Alliance that was connected to the Mysterions. Just one. I don't doubt there were others here and there that knew they were working for someone else, but still, it'd be a handful at most.

Everyone else, the Night Watch, the Psi Corps, the politicians, the corrupt businessmen that chose to back Clark, the hate groups like the Church of Man, and, worst of all, the good people blinded by propaganda, lies and fear. They weren't working towards self-destructing. They believed they were working towards victory. The fact they were wrong, and the fact that the good guys beat them when the time came, doesn't make them a joke. It simply means the heroes were better.

>>Just because it looks insane from the outside doesn't mean that the
>>people on the inside can see that.
>
>That's true, but it also doesn't make them not incompetent
>jokes.

And that's where you and I disagree. Because to me, if they were incompetent, they wouldn't have lasted as long as they did against a superior foe.

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