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#0, Lupin the First
Posted by StClair on Jul-11-19 at 00:10 AM
This looks pretty good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uw7jrQQK3Mc


#1, RE: Lupin the First
Posted by drakensis on Jul-11-19 at 02:30 AM
In response to message #0
The Lupin shows tend to be a hit and miss for me, but it seems worth a try at any rate.

#16, RE: Lupin the First
Posted by trboturtle2 on Jul-16-19 at 02:35 PM
In response to message #1
Toonami's running Lupin The Third, Part Five on Saturday nights/Sunday mornings......

Craig


#17, RE: Lupin the First
Posted by drakensis on Jul-17-19 at 00:02 AM
In response to message #16
LAST EDITED ON Jul-17-19 AT 00:05 AM (EDT)
 
I binged that earlier this year and I did enjoy that one. Good theme of how Lupin adapts to a world with ever-present social media, an over-arching arc with fun side stories interspersed - including two flipping events around with Lupin solving crimes rather than committing them - and the final few episodes are full of callbacks to the long history of the franchise.

Like many good stories, it asks a question: "can there be heroes in the modern world?" And the answer by the end is made heartwarmingly clear: hell yes.


#24, RE: Lupin the First
Posted by StClair on Aug-14-21 at 06:06 PM
In response to message #17
Saw a good comment today on another forum:

"Lupin and Zenigata are great because the character dynamic of a roguish thief who’s a dick but not such a dick he’s actually evil and the force of law who looks bumbling and incompetent but only because he’s chasing after the greatest criminal in history and mops the floor with anyone in a ten yard radius otherwise, and when all these world shaking schemes by criminal masterminds end up as little detours in the endless chase between the two, it’s just bellissimo."


#2, RE: Lupin the First
Posted by SpottedKitty on Jul-11-19 at 09:49 AM
In response to message #0
Intriguing. I watched a couple of the Lupin shows at a local anime club way back in the day, and they were great fun. Let's see how this turns out.

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#3, RE: Lupin the First
Posted by Gryphon on Jul-11-19 at 12:36 PM
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Kind of a confusing title, given that the character is in fact Lupin the Third. Lupin the First was a Frenchman from the early 1900s. :)

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#4, RE: Lupin the First
Posted by StClair on Jul-11-19 at 08:31 PM
In response to message #3
I thought about that, believe me.
but hey, I didn't pick the title.

#5, RE: Lupin the First
Posted by Gryphon on Jul-11-19 at 09:24 PM
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LAST EDITED ON Jul-11-19 AT 09:27 PM (EDT)
 
>I thought about that, believe me.
>but hey, I didn't pick the title.

I see that.

You watch, we'll get a translation at some point and it'll turn out the film is called Lupin III the First, just to be even more "huh?"-worthy. Kind of like how Ultraman in the 2004 theatrical movie was called "Ultraman the Next". (There was sort of an explanation for that in the movie, but... only sort of. :)

Anyway, looks interesting. The trailer doesn't look like the film is as uncanny as the CG Tintin movie from a few years ago, which was sort of disappointingly Not There Yet animation-wise. Mind you, I'm pretty sure Castle of Cagliostro is literally the only Lupin III thing I've ever seen, and that was at least 20 years ago, so I only vaguely know who everyone is (beyond the fact that the makers of the trailer thoughtfully included all their names :), but still.

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#7, RE: Lupin the First
Posted by dbrandon on Jul-12-19 at 09:19 AM
In response to message #5
>You watch, we'll get a translation at some point and it'll turn out
>the film is called Lupin III the First, just to be even
>more "huh?"-worthy.

Pretty sure this is the case. My Japanese could be charitably called "rudimentary", but the character that's three horizontal lines is almost certainly the "Third" (or part thereof) of his name.

dbrandon


#10, RE: Lupin the First
Posted by goldenfire on Jul-13-19 at 09:21 PM
In response to message #7
It is, stolen lock, stock, and character from Chinese.

google translate says the youtube video title is Movie "Lupin III THE FIRST" notice so...


#6, RE: Lupin the First
Posted by Star Ranger4 on Jul-12-19 at 02:01 AM
In response to message #3
>Kind of a confusing title, given that the character is in fact Lupin
>the Third. Lupin the First was a Frenchman from the early 1900s. :)
>
Thats what I thought. Of course, you could well have a point about it being Lupin 3 the first as in the first movie of a reboot. Although there is that one shot of a biplane and a zepplin thrown in just to confuse the whole issue

#8, RE: Lupin the First
Posted by SpottedKitty on Jul-12-19 at 09:11 PM
In response to message #6
>Thats what I thought. Of course, you could well have a point about it
>being Lupin 3 the first as in the first movie of a reboot. Although
>there is that one shot of a biplane and a zepplin thrown in just to
>confuse the whole issue

Aren't the original episodes at least a little bit anachronistic tech-wise anyway? I didn't see anything in the trailer that really jumped out at me, although a better look at the big plane that was shooting at the biplane would help. Looks a bit like a cross between a B-36 and the Spruce Goose.

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#9, RE: Lupin the First
Posted by Gryphon on Jul-12-19 at 10:04 PM
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>Aren't the original episodes at least a little bit anachronistic
>tech-wise anyway? I didn't see anything in the trailer that really
>jumped out at me

Well...

Their car looks to be a Fiat Nuova 500, which weren't made before 1957. I don't know the make or model of the cop cars, but just eyeballing their general styling, they look like they're probably from the early-to-mid '60s.

(Also, in her title card, Fujiko seems to have an Uzi, which likewise can't be much older than about 1956.)

This part is just speculation, but given that the title character debuted in 1967 and the film is called The First, I'm going to guess it's probably set then, or at least that the producers were going for an aesthetic suggestive of that period.

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#11, RE: Lupin the First
Posted by Peter Eng on Jul-15-19 at 00:47 AM
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>>Aren't the original episodes at least a little bit anachronistic
>>tech-wise anyway? I didn't see anything in the trailer that really
>>jumped out at me
>
>Their car looks to be a Fiat Nuova 500, which weren't made before
>1957. I don't know the make or model of the cop cars, but just
>eyeballing their general styling, they look like they're probably from
>the early-to-mid '60s.
>

That made me go back to the car chase scene from Castle of Cagliostro, to get a better look at Lupin's car. It's the same on the outside, anyhow.

>
>This part is just speculation, but given that the title character
>debuted in 1967 and the film is called The First, I'm going to
>guess it's probably set then, or at least that the producers were
>going for an aesthetic suggestive of that period.
>

Perhaps they're making a prequel, and the full title was going to be something like, Lupin III: The First Adventure, until one of the studio execs thought that was a bit too unwieldy.

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#12, RE: Lupin the First
Posted by Gryphon on Jul-15-19 at 00:56 AM
In response to message #11
LAST EDITED ON Jul-15-19 AT 00:58 AM (EDT)
 
>That made me go back to the car chase scene from Castle of
>Cagliostro
, to get a better look at Lupin's car. It's the same on
>the outside, anyhow.

(nod) I remember that. The "most powerful Belv... in the world" shtick in OWaW is a nod to Lupin's car in that scene. That's the only Lupin thing I've seen, but I imagine it's probably a signature thing, like characters' cars in that kind of fiction often are (e.g., Rally's Cobra in Gunsmith Cats, Jim Rockford's Firebird, and on and on).

Anyway, what I was mostly noting about its presence in the trailer is that that means they probably haven't set it in, say, the 1930s—unless they're just going for an atemporal the-style-is-the-important-thing setting, like the Crimson Lizard and New Century Zatōichi movies in the UF universe. :)

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#13, RE: Lupin the First
Posted by drakensis on Jul-15-19 at 01:46 AM
In response to message #12
Lupin III uses a lot of different cars, some more iconic than others. He does seem to have a thing for classic cars. The Mercedes-Benz SSK from the original series and the Fiat 500 may be the best known. I have a certain fondness for his Renault R8 Gordini.

#15, RE: Lupin the First
Posted by MoonEyes on Jul-15-19 at 06:55 AM
In response to message #13
>I have a certain fondness for his Renault R8 Gordini.


Me, I am ENTIRELY un-knowledgable about Lupin beyond Google...but, that is an EPIC car, I will agree.

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#14, RE: Lupin the First
Posted by Peter Eng on Jul-15-19 at 02:03 AM
In response to message #9
I took a look at Wikipedia, and re-checked the Castle of Cagliostro clip; either Lupin drives a Fiat Nuova 500 F in that adventure, or the animators forgot to draw suicide doors.

Careful study of the trailer shows they kept the same car design, down to the doors.

Peter Eng
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#18, RE: Lupin the First
Posted by StClair on Oct-01-19 at 06:16 PM
In response to message #0
New trailer dropped:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIzHw0gVB0g


#19, RE: Lupin the First
Posted by SpottedKitty on Oct-01-19 at 10:42 PM
In response to message #18
Looking even better. I'm tempted to get this one when it comes out on DVD.

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#20, RE: Lupin the First
Posted by Star Ranger4 on Oct-10-19 at 04:45 AM
In response to message #18
>New trailer dropped:
>
Have to agree with Spotted Kitty as to a lot of its thoughts... The one that I have at this point is how much the car chase here matches the one from Castle of Castilliago (or however its bloody spelled). Apparently that particular scene is like THE iconic bit... the one that even made it into the lazer disc game based on the OVA of the same name.

Any yes, for the record, I never got through the car chase scene myself.


#21, RE: Lupin the First
Posted by MoonEyes on Oct-16-19 at 06:47 AM
In response to message #20
>Castle of Castilliago (or however its bloody spelled).


"Cagliostro"


https://vimeo.com/39790868

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#22, RE: Lupin the First
Posted by StClair on Nov-30-19 at 06:13 PM
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SPOILERS for (I'm guessing) the opening sequence.
Definitely has the classic tone, IMO.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQ4xhSBY-UY


#23, RE: Lupin the First
Posted by SpottedKitty on Dec-01-19 at 03:46 PM
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Not just the tone, the stunts and jokes too. I'm liking the look of this more with every new bit I see.

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#25, RE: Lupin the First
Posted by dbrandon on May-24-22 at 02:41 PM
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Finally tracked down a copy of this and watched it. Most of the speculation up-thread is accurate-- it is set in the 60s-ish (I forget exactly), so the potential anachronisms are mostly not really, it is about Lupin the III but references his grandfather in a plot-related way, and it feels _very_ like many of the other Lupin movies, and a bit like a longer version of some of the TV show episodes.

It has a lot of the Lupin vibe, but with a larger, vaguely Indiana Jones Crystal Skull kind of plot. It's not amazing, but it's successful at doing what it's trying to do. The animation is kind of Pixar-y in a way that generally works.

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dbrandon