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#0, Newest Gundam series is a close approximation of Utena
Posted by Rabe on Oct-02-22 at 09:00 PM
Newest Gundam series is a close approximation of Utena but real robots duels in a high school

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YGW2JRxWUU
thats the prologue^
and the 1st real episode just hit the net about 24 hours ago,there are of a lot of ways to see this anime a lot of them are even legal

and here is the kicker the shows tittle is


Mobile suit gundam: The Witch from Mercury

just kinda hitting a lot of my UF type media sensors


#1, RE: Newest Gundam series is a close approximation of Ut
Posted by StClair on Oct-04-22 at 02:31 AM
In response to message #0
It's not Utena until someone pulls a sword* out of someone else's chest and proceeds to fight a duel with it.


* In this case, I will also accept a beam saber.


#6, RE: Newest Gundam series is a close approximation of Ut
Posted by pjmoyer on Oct-05-22 at 01:34 AM
In response to message #1
>It's not Utena until someone pulls a sword* out of someone else's
>chest and proceeds to fight a duel with it.
>
>
>* In this case, I will also accept a beam saber.

As theorized on Twitter: https://twitter.com/kineticharvest/status/1576901172862291976






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#2, RE: Newest Gundam series is a close approximation of Ut
Posted by Gryphon on Oct-04-22 at 02:45 AM
In response to message #0
"I mean let's face it, if Ohtori Academy had HAD a Friday Night Firefight program..."

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#3, RE: Newest Gundam series is a close approximation of Ut
Posted by Verbena on Oct-04-22 at 09:05 AM
In response to message #2
>"I mean let's face it, if Ohtori Academy had HAD a Friday Night
>Firefight program..."

Clearly a missed opportunity for the Ohtori Student Council meetings.

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#4, RE: Newest Gundam series is a close approximation of Ut
Posted by pjmoyer on Oct-04-22 at 09:47 AM
In response to message #0
>Newest Gundam series is a close approximation of Utena but real robots
>duels in a high school

Well, for what it's worth, the main screenwriter for the series, Ichirō Ōkouchi, while more well-known for things such as Turn A Gundam and Code Geass, got his start writing the first two Utena novelizations and the video game back in 1998. So while there's more to the series than "Utena with a Mecha Layer", especially with the corpos involved and the events of the Prologue, there's still the potential for at least some mindscrew built into there. :)

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(The first episode of Witch likely drew heavy parallels from the first episode of Utena on purpose; we'll see next ep how long that trend lasts)






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#8, RE: Newest Gundam series is a close approximation of Ut
Posted by Rabe on Oct-05-22 at 11:09 PM
In response to message #4

some clues to the dynamics

#14, RE: Newest Gundam series is a close approximation of Ut
Posted by Sr71will on Nov-09-22 at 01:41 PM
In response to message #8
There is only one thing I can say about that chart: accurate, but doesn't depict Space Weiss as enough of a tsundere lesbian.

#15, RE: Newest Gundam series is a close approximation of Ut
Posted by Peter Eng on Nov-09-22 at 03:29 PM
In response to message #14
>There is only one thing I can say about that chart: accurate, but
>doesn't depict Space Weiss as enough of a tsundere lesbian.

I was figuring her for bisexual, but whatever works.

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#16, RE: Newest Gundam series is a close approximation of Ut
Posted by Verbena on Nov-09-22 at 08:20 PM
In response to message #15
>>There is only one thing I can say about that chart: accurate, but
>>doesn't depict Space Weiss as enough of a tsundere lesbian.
>
>I was figuring her for bisexual, but whatever works.

Heh. I was figuring her for "If she gets me out of marrying that window-licking space nob, I don't care -what- bits she has. And if it pisses off my dad in the bargain I'll genuinely enjoy it."
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#17, RE: Newest Gundam series is a close approximation of Ut
Posted by Sr71will on Nov-10-22 at 02:20 AM
In response to message #16
LAST EDITED ON Nov-10-22 AT 02:22 AM (EST)
 
>>>There is only one thing I can say about that chart: accurate, but
>>>doesn't depict Space Weiss as enough of a tsundere lesbian.
>>
>>I was figuring her for bisexual, but whatever works.
>
>Heh. I was figuring her for "If she gets me out of marrying that
>window-licking space nob, I don't care -what- bits she has. And if it
>pisses off my dad in the bargain I'll genuinely enjoy it."

I will admit that both of those theories/opinions are equally as likely to be true as my own, and make these two points in my defense.

First, the SuleMio brain rot is real.

Second, even if Miorine were to theoretically come out as a lesbian, or more unlikely asexual, her father would given how much regard he's shown for her opinion so far ignore it and continue to have her engagement be tied to the duels. A system that pretty much by design is supposed to favor the notably all male heirs of the three most prominent companies in the Benerit Group.


#18, RE: Newest Gundam series is a close approximation of Ut
Posted by Verbena on Nov-10-22 at 04:03 PM
In response to message #17
>I will admit that both of those theories/opinions are equally as
>likely to be true as my own, and make these two points in my defense.
>
>First, the SuleMio brain rot is real.
>
>Second, even if Miorine were to theoretically come out as a lesbian,
>or more unlikely asexual, her father would given how much regard he's
>shown for her opinion so far ignore it and continue to have her
>engagement be tied to the duels. A system that pretty much by design
>is supposed to favor the notably all male heirs of the three most
>prominent companies in the Benerit Group.

Yep. I haven't even seen most of the show yet sadly, but I think I can still safely say the father couldn't care less about that aspect of marriage--it's just a shorthand for "who becomes my heir" to him. The simple fact that Miorine isn't already his heir says everything that needs to be said about the man.

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#19, RE: Newest Gundam series is a close approximation of Ut
Posted by Rabe on Nov-10-22 at 04:55 PM
In response to message #18
LAST EDITED ON Nov-10-22 AT 04:56 PM (EST)
 
>>I will admit that both of those theories/opinions are equally as
>>likely to be true as my own, and make these two points in my defense.
>>
>>First, the SuleMio brain rot is real.
>>
>>Second, even if Miorine were to theoretically come out as a lesbian,
>>or more unlikely asexual, her father would given how much regard he's
>>shown for her opinion so far ignore it and continue to have her
>>engagement be tied to the duels. A system that pretty much by design
>>is supposed to favor the notably all male heirs of the three most
>>prominent companies in the Benerit Group.
>
>Yep. I haven't even seen most of the show yet sadly, but I think I can
>still safely say the father couldn't care less about that aspect of
>marriage--it's just a shorthand for "who becomes my heir" to him. The
>simple fact that Miorine isn't already his heir says everything that
>needs to be said about the man.
>
>------
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> Orchestrate our fall from grace
> Poorest players on the stage
> Our defiance drives us straight to the edge
waiting for his karma Houdini plan to drop, get himself killed and the spoils of his crimes fall at the feet of her husband so she is not blamed for dads hard choices/sins and the world still has the villain he thought it needed to grow into a better place his children

#20, RE: Newest Gundam series is a close approximation of Ut
Posted by Sr71will on Nov-11-22 at 02:01 AM
In response to message #19
>>>I will admit that both of those theories/opinions are equally as
>>>likely to be true as my own, and make these two points in my defense.
>>>
>>>First, the SuleMio brain rot is real.
>>>
>>>Second, even if Miorine were to theoretically come out as a lesbian,
>>>or more unlikely asexual, her father would given how much regard he's
>>>shown for her opinion so far ignore it and continue to have her
>>>engagement be tied to the duels. A system that pretty much by design
>>>is supposed to favor the notably all male heirs of the three most
>>>prominent companies in the Benerit Group.
>>
>>Yep. I haven't even seen most of the show yet sadly, but I think I can
>>still safely say the father couldn't care less about that aspect of
>>marriage--it's just a shorthand for "who becomes my heir" to him. The
>>simple fact that Miorine isn't already his heir says everything that
>>needs to be said about the man.
>>
>>------
>> Authors of our fates
>> Orchestrate our fall from grace
>> Poorest players on the stage
>> Our defiance drives us straight to the edge
>waiting for his karma Houdini plan to drop, get himself killed and the
>spoils of his crimes fall at the feet of her husband so she is not
>blamed for dads hard choices/sins and the world still has the villain
>he thought it needed to grow into a better place his children

I'm sorry good sir, but I do believe that you are giving Delling Rembran far, far too much credit as a person to believe that he has such a plan.


#5, RE: Newest Gundam series is a close approximation of Ut
Posted by mdg1 on Oct-04-22 at 06:00 PM
In response to message #0
Now I'm trying to picture an Utena Gundam.

The nearest I can figure is a cross between Nobel Gundam and Gundam Rose.


#7, RE: Newest Gundam series is a close approximation of Ut
Posted by Peter Eng on Oct-05-22 at 02:44 PM
In response to message #5
>Now I'm trying to picture an Utena Gundam.
>

I'd say that Corwin is having the same problem, except he wouldn't build anything as small as a Gundam unless he really needed a quick prototype.

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#9, RE: Newest Gundam series is a close approximation of Ut
Posted by Meagen on Oct-09-22 at 09:20 AM
In response to message #0
LAST EDITED ON Oct-09-22 AT 09:23 AM (EDT)
 
Episode 2 is out and we have an OP! It has:

- shot of Protagonist walking on right side of screen while other students are in the background on the left side

- tracking shot showing off each member of the Student Council
(and a montage of action shots of their mecha)

- final shot of the OP which is straight up re-creating the final shot of the Utena OP


#10, RE: Newest Gundam series is a close approximation of Ut
Posted by Rabe on Oct-10-22 at 06:52 AM
In response to message #9
new fan art

#11, RE: Newest Gundam series is a close approximation of Ut
Posted by Rabe on Oct-25-22 at 08:37 AM
In response to message #10
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZnwyLc7c30

episode one is free to watch in the US thru Youtube at the above link
Utena fans please inform me of the parallels you see


#12, RE: Newest Gundam series is a close approximation of Ut
Posted by Gryphon on Oct-30-22 at 01:26 AM
In response to message #11
>episode one is free to watch in the US thru Youtube at the above link

Well, shoot. I didn't get a chance to check it out before the weekend, and now they've taken it down.

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#13, RE: Newest Gundam series is a close approximation of Ut
Posted by Verbena on Oct-30-22 at 03:35 PM
In response to message #12
>Well, shoot. I didn't get a chance to check it out before the weekend,
>and now they've taken it down.

Well, that's unfortunate. I rather liked it. I will refrain from linking anything, but I think you may have some luck by searching YT for it, selecting a video that seems a little short for a full episode, and slowing the playback down 25%.

Best of luck!

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#21, RE: Newest Gundam series is a close approximation of Ut
Posted by Rabe on Nov-14-22 at 12:09 PM
In response to message #0
https://twitter.com/carnation_Rin/status/1591736127605854208


I'm sorry but one of us is going to to changes dresses

anyway I can redress these to show?


#22, RE: Newest Gundam series is a close approximation of Ut
Posted by Sr71will on Nov-20-22 at 11:52 PM
In response to message #21
Not to be rude but the dresses don't look that similar in the actual episode, how pale Suletta looks in that concept art should have been a clue.

#23, RE: Newest Gundam series is a close approximation of Ut
Posted by Peter Eng on Nov-21-22 at 12:30 PM
In response to message #22
>Not to be rude but the dresses don't look that similar in the actual
>episode, how pale Suletta looks in that concept art should have been a
>clue.

Also, nobody ended up wearing a tablecloth. :)

Peter Eng
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Insert humorous comment here.


#24, RE: Newest Gundam series is a close approximation of Ut
Posted by Sr71will on Nov-22-22 at 05:10 AM
In response to message #23
>>Not to be rude but the dresses don't look that similar in the actual
>>episode, how pale Suletta looks in that concept art should have been a
>>clue.
>
>Also, nobody ended up wearing a tablecloth. :)
>
>Peter Eng
>--
>Insert humorous comment here.

And instead Miorine got to be awesome.


#25, RE: Newest Gundam series is a close approximation of Ut
Posted by CdrMike on Jan-20-23 at 00:40 AM
In response to message #0
So yeah, the first season finale aired and along came the traditional Gundam mind screw/tragedy overload. I won't say much, other than as bad as many of the things Utena encountered over her time at Ohtori Academy, I don't remember any of them resulting in another human being reduced to red paste. Poor Miorine is gonna need a hug after this.

#26, RE: Newest Gundam series is a close approximation of Ut
Posted by The Traitor on Jan-20-23 at 09:17 AM
In response to message #25
>I don't remember any of them resulting in another human being
>reduced to red paste.

Oh no, that was in a spinoff manga called Revolutionary Girl Utena: Adolescence Of Byford Dolphin

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#27, RE: Newest Gundam series is a close approximation of Ut
Posted by Rabe on Feb-06-23 at 11:20 AM
In response to message #26
hey all dub just dropped
https://at.tumblr.com/ferhog/the-english-dub-somehow-gave-them-an-even-higher/2kgjk55rxc47
https://www.tumblr.com/video/ferhog/708510965763801088/700/
some sample bits give it a listen