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#0, (S04) Azalynn's Winter Holiday
Posted by Gryphon on Dec-09-06 at 02:56 AM
LAST EDITED ON Apr-02-10 AT 01:24 PM (EDT)
 
23 This was left vague because I've long thought the early timeline of UF could stand some retroactive cleaning up. In Undocumented Features Book Two: The Long Road, the second destruction of Worcester happened in 1992, after two things happened, both of them in an absurdly short span of time: GENOM's rise to power (and accompanying rebuilding of Worcester); and the training and equipping of the Wedge Defense Force. Nowadays, with UF having grown far beyond its original joke-born origins, it seems like that should have at least taken a few years, and I'm inclined to place it more in the vicinity of 1994 or '95.

47 An allusion to the opening narration of the 1984 motion picture version of Dune: "A beginning is a very delicate time. Know, then, that it is the year 10,191... "

60 As with many features of Dantrovian biology, this presumably has to do with the species having evolved under constant threat from predators.

88 I hadn't invented Rina Dragonaar yet.

96 Australia, to meet with the as-yet-unspecified rogue Psi Cop who trained him to avoid detection by the Psi Corps.

124 As seen in the "Kirk and company beam down to Regula I" scene in Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan. The Starfleet field jacket is one of my favorites among many nice bits of costuming in that film.

133 I understand that Gompei's is gone altogether in the real world. A shame. The faux-bistro cafe version from my student days wasn't great, but it beat the regular food on campus, and the old pub room where the student activities committee would sometimes put on shows was a nice little function space.

135 Ping's Garden, as we'll see later. Ping's turns up again and again in EPU works - it's a staple in NXE as well - even though I'm pretty much the only member of the old gang who will still admit to liking the food there.

137 When I arrived in 1991 as a WPI freshman, Worcester had a number of things with initials that called to mind a radio station. In addition to the WRTA, there was WCIS (Worcester County Institution for Savings, a bank) and WDPW (the Worcester Department of Public Works). Within a few years, the old Worcester Galleria would be closed, renovated, and reopened as WCFO, the Worcester Common Fashion Outlets. In addition, some WRTA buses actually did carry ads for radio stations, most notably WXLO.

293 Dantrovian reaction time is about a quarter of the average human's.

330 A tachi is a cavalry sword similar to, but usually slightly larger than, a katana, and is customarily worn with the edge down rather than up. Many scholars now agree that it's an earlier type that evolved into the katana.

353 In a neat bit of symmetry, we'll see this kind of jumpsuit again in Page of Swords, when Saionji provides one to Anne Cross.

423 Not as pronounced as they'd be if she were attacking; Dantrovian canine teeth can extend and retract by as much as a quarter-inch.

442 Japanese - and Nihonian - tradition holds that creatures with gold eyes are magical, and to be approached warily.

460 Touga Kiryuu.

526 Shalhara, in western Cephiro. If he'd made it much further west, he might have encountered Azarath, though he'd only have seen it if the monks wanted him to.

658 As we will see later, "The End of the World" was not always a title to inspire fear and loathing, despite its rather doom-laden wording.

684 Since a Cephirean heartsword is the embodiment of its owner's spirit and Cephirean magic tends to be a rather literal art, not only does having one's heartsword broken hurt abominably, it will also tend to cripple one's emotions. Given that she spends the entirety of the first and most of the second symphony without most of hers, Utena has an incredibly strong soul just to function, let alone to grow and thrive, in that time.

685 And here is where Akio's little holoplay diverges from what really happened. He always starts with a core of truth and then varnishes it with lies until only that which he wants to present makes an impression on the viewer.

699 Two points for Akio for using "enormity" in the proper sense - "the quality of passing all moral bounds; excessive wickedness or outrageousness" - rather than the more common sense, in which it is confused with "enormousness".

777 The hell he doesn't.

830 There wasn't a way to show it that wouldn't have broken the flow of the scene, but Juri was very impressed with Miki's actions here - this moment can be considered one of the seeds of what would become her great love for him.

851 This barb would have stung Akio especially, since Juri's well-known disbelief in miracles was one of the levers he used to involve her in the Tournament in the first place.

891 Not the first time Saionji had expressed this opinion of Nanami; it mirrors something he said about her in Revolutionary Girl Utena.

923 "By the pricking of my thumbs, something wicked this way comes." Macbeth, Act IV, Scene 1. In the original Shakespeare the line refers to Macbeth, a traitorous regicide.

973 Dvhanai sha'tiaia, makhanae aeanaia - Dantrovese does not translate well at all to English, especially when the spirit (dvha) is involved, but in essence, Azalynn is praying to the Spirit of the World to help her soothe this beloved stranger's torments. Makhana aeanaia, "the beloved stranger", is one of the central figures of Dantrovian animism, an archetype embodying concepts difficult to summarize in any other language. Very roughly, the idea is that one should be willing to love, care for, and grieve for even those one has never met.

1112 The Tempest, Act V, Scene 1. "O wonder! How many goodly creatures are there here! How beauteous mankind is! O brave new world, that has such people in't!" How Saionji can quote Shakespeare is unknown; perhaps you've not really experienced Shakespeare until you've read it in the original Gaulish.

1163 Saionji was delirious, but he's right: he did, in fact, see a white-bearded man in red who appeared out of nowhere and gave him a new sword. Precisely why Odin did that has never really been explored... yet.

1190 Edward didn't steal it from a bank, she stole it from Earthforce's black operations slush fund.

1234 This whole story is another example of the way things didn't always, or even often, go to plan in the early days of the Symphonies. Saionji was originally intended to be a recurring comedic foil - the Sideshow Bob of the Symphony, always turning up at odd times to try and destroy Utena or Kate and always being smacked down by whichever Duelist happened to be passing by. However, as the middle of S1 began to come together (and I filled in the missing bits of Revolutionary Girl Utena I hadn't seen), I came to like the bastard and decided he deserved better, so I replanned his arc and wrote this piece to explain how he was salvaged. It worked out for the best - I got a solid supporting player who played key roles in several pivotal parts of later story arcs and some nice development screen time for Azalynn as well.


#1, RE: Annotations: Azalynn's Winter Holiday
Posted by E_M_Lurker on Dec-09-06 at 06:53 AM
In response to message #0
LAST EDITED ON Dec-09-06 AT 06:54 AM (EST)
 
>526 Shalhara, in western Cephiro. If he'd made it much further
>west, he might have encountered Azarath, though he'd only have seen it
>if the monks wanted him to.

The thought of Saionji meeting Raven in the monastery is just that wee bit mind-blowing.

>658 As we will see later, "The End of the World" was not always
>a title to inspire fear and loathing, despite its rather doom-laden
>wording.

I really, really wish that fansubs and official versions alike had gone with the more accurate and genre-matching translation "The Ends of the Earth." The "Hate" in Sekai no Hate means a physical border, not a temporal stopping point. (...The manga translation used "World's End," which is a fair bit better than EotW.)

--The Evil Midnight Lurker what Lurks at Midnight
"An object at rest--CANNOT BE STOPPED!!!"


#4, RE: Annotations: Azalynn's Winter Holiday
Posted by Gryphon on Dec-09-06 at 04:01 PM
In response to message #1
>I really, really wish that fansubs and official versions alike had
>gone with the more accurate and genre-matching translation "The Ends
>of the Earth." The "Hate" in Sekai no Hate means a physical
>border, not a temporal stopping point.

Uh, I know that (see the bit in Roses in Springtime where Corwin takes Utena to the Moon). Rendering it "The End of the World" allows it to have a double meaning, which gives a lot more room to play with metaphor and interpretation - just what is required in this context.

--G.
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#2, RE: Annotations: Azalynn's Winter Holiday
Posted by Meagen on Dec-09-06 at 09:28 AM
In response to message #0
>684 Since a Cephirean heartsword is the embodiment of its
>owner's spirit and Cephirean magic tends to be a rather literal art,
>not only does having one's heartsword broken hurt abominably, it will
>also tend to cripple one's emotions. Given that she spends the
>entirety of the first and most of the second symphony without most of
>hers, Utena has an incredibly strong soul just to function, let alone
>to grow and thrive, in that time.

I've always thought it was really nifty how Corwin repairing Utena's Heart was handled in the Symphony. The moment on the dueling floor was just a logical progression of everything he'd done for her during the previous year-and-a-bit.


>1163 Saionji was delirious, but he's right: he did, in
>fact, see a white-bearded man in red who appeared out of nowhere and
>gave him a new sword. Precisely why Odin did that has never really
>been explored... yet.

It was *Odin*?! Now I'm really, really curious about the whole thing...


#3, RE: Annotations: Azalynn's Winter Holiday
Posted by Verbena on Dec-09-06 at 12:46 PM
In response to message #2
>>684 Since a Cephirean heartsword is the embodiment of its
>>owner's spirit and Cephirean magic tends to be a rather literal art,
>>not only does having one's heartsword broken hurt abominably, it will
>>also tend to cripple one's emotions. Given that she spends the
>>entirety of the first and most of the second symphony without most of
>>hers, Utena has an incredibly strong soul just to function, let alone
>>to grow and thrive, in that time.
>
>I've always thought it was really nifty how Corwin repairing Utena's
>Heart was handled in the Symphony. The moment on the dueling floor was
>just a logical progression of everything he'd done for her during the
>previous year-and-a-bit.
>
>
>>1163 Saionji was delirious, but he's right: he did, in
>>fact, see a white-bearded man in red who appeared out of nowhere and
>>gave him a new sword. Precisely why Odin did that has never really
>>been explored... yet.
>
>It was *Odin*?! Now I'm really, really curious about the whole
>thing...

I've -always- wondered who this, was; someday, I need to go back and actually note down the questions I've had over the years. Now, of course, I can't wait to find out why. But, hey, when you've got Mimir's wisdom, sometimes you do weird crap like that and have it work out alright. It's no accident the Norns are his children.

"They say one should not speak unkindly of the dead, so I say, 'nice try'." --Lezard


#5, RE: Annotations: Azalynn's Winter Holiday
Posted by jadmire on Dec-09-06 at 05:35 PM
In response to message #3
>>1163 Saionji was delirious, but he's right: he did, in
>>fact, see a white-bearded man in red who appeared out of nowhere and
>>gave him a new sword. Precisely why Odin did that has never really
>>been explored... yet.
>
>It was *Odin*?! Now I'm really, really curious about the whole
>thing...

I've -always- wondered who this, was; someday, I need to go back and actually note down the questions I've had over the years. Now, of course, I can't wait to find out why. But, hey, when you've got Mimir's wisdom, sometimes you do weird crap like that and have it work out alright. It's no accident the Norns are his children.

If Santa Claus is an aspect of Odin (something which oddly tickles my fancy - I assume he gets both his eyes back when he essays this), he must have been (I *HOPE*) mightily amused to hear Gryphon refer to him as a fat old guy in red in "Another Christmas Rose".

-Joe-


#6, RE: Annotations: Azalynn's Winter Holiday
Posted by FubarObfusco on Dec-10-06 at 07:04 PM
In response to message #5
>If Santa Claus is an aspect of Odin (something which oddly tickles my
>fancy - I assume he gets both his eyes back when he essays this), he
>must have been (I *HOPE*) mightily amused to hear Gryphon refer to him
>as a fat old guy in red in "Another Christmas Rose".

It fits better than making Santa Claus an aspect of Nodens, as was done in my second-favorite Evangelion fanfic saga. :)


#7, RE: Annotations: Azalynn's Winter Holiday
Posted by Gryphon on Dec-10-06 at 07:40 PM
In response to message #5
>If Santa Claus is an aspect of Odin (something which oddly tickles my
>fancy - I assume he gets both his eyes back when he essays this), he
>must have been (I *HOPE*) mightily amused to hear Gryphon refer to him
>as a fat old guy in red in "Another Christmas Rose".

No, don't mistake me. I'm not saying Santa Claus is Odin. I'm saying the guy Saionji thought was Santa Claus was Odin.

When I was a little kid, I thought one of the guys in my dad's office was Santa Claus, but I'm pretty sure now that he wasn't. :)

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#8, RE: Annotations: Azalynn's Winter Holiday
Posted by Peter Eng on Dec-11-06 at 03:02 PM
In response to message #7
>
>No, don't mistake me. I'm not saying Santa Claus is Odin. I'm saying
>the guy Saionji thought was Santa Claus was Odin.
>

In short, he was so feverish that if you'd stuck a white beard and a red beanie on a Hutt, Saionji would have thought "Santa Claus."

Peter Eng
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#9, RE: Annotations: Azalynn's Winter Holiday
Posted by StClair on Dec-11-06 at 10:23 PM
In response to message #8
Well, they've got the right laugh. ("OH HO HO HO HO.") And the "bowl full of jelly" thing.

#10, RE: Annotations: Azalynn's Winter Holiday
Posted by O_M on Dec-12-06 at 06:21 AM
In response to message #8
I'm fairly certain I would never have put that mental image together, but I thank you for nearly gagging me on my drink. :)

Beyond that, though, IS there a distinct parallel between Saint Nick and someone on the Norse pantheon? After the Frey Lightwalker/Michael the Archangel one from S1M2, I'm curious where the line between 'divinity/semidivinity' and 'folk legend' is drawn on some of the older stories of certain civilizations.