#0, Hololive, Cont'd^2
Posted by Nova Floresca on Jan-20-24 at 05:31 PM
Kendra Kirai said:>I don’t know enough about Advent yet, but Biboo’s fanbase is Pebbles Interestingly, the Pebbles are both Biboo's fanbase and her mascot, with the original pebble she drew on stream being the mascot version. Her fans were then invited to draw their own #pebblesona and submit it on her Twitter, and they occasionally make an appearance in her streams. As for the others: Shiori: Mascot- Yorick, the sad-looking blob on her shoulder. Fanbase- Novelites, little one-eyed knights. Nerissa: Mascot- none yet, unless you count her family* Fanbase- Jailbirds, a blue-black puffball bird, similar to KFP (maybe cooked in a different sauce?). Fuwamoco: Mascot- Peroccino, the puffball dog with wings who appears in their opening. Pero is treated as something of a villain by the twins. Fanbase- Ruffians, who don't have a design yet. *Nerissa's family have all had some level of interaction with her streams thus far; this isn't unusual per se (other siblings have shown up regularly, and there have been jokes of having a HoloMoms generation at some point, going so far as to have Kiara's mom on the official Minecraft server, and she's a fairly talented builder). However, Nerissa's family takes this to a new level, with official character art designed by Nerissa, and Aradia (her elder-but-not-eldest sister) doing karaoke streams with her, and helping to make a cake for her birthday. It helps that Nerissa and Aradia are both trained singers, with Nerissa being more talented, but Aradia's no slouch either. "This is probably a stupid question, but . . ."
#1, RE: Hololive, Cont'd^2
Posted by Kendra Kirai on Jan-20-24 at 07:09 PM
In response to message #0
Ahhh, of course. They escaped my memory in the moment, but I do know Jailbirds and Ruffians. :) Didn't know about Biboo's Pebble being her mascot~ I do remember her making the template and telling everyone to make their own Pebblesona though. :3So, of course, EN isn't the only ones who have mascots and fanbase names, but I'm not nearly as aware of those. Only really know one or the others for the JPs and IDs Korone has her Listener-san, those weird smiling people that she drew herself, but I don't think she has a mascot, unless you count her furball form...or Okayu. Pekora has her little rabbit characters as her fanbase... Risu has her Risuners... Subaru has Subarado Duck as her mascot, I think, not sure about her fanbase name...Ahiru? Botan has the little bomb cats which are fanbase, called SSRBs~ Fubuki's Mascot is...oh, according to vtuber wiki, it's a little fluffy white fox called Sukon-bu, which is also her JP fanbase, with the overseas viewers being Friends~ OH! I knew I forgot an EN! Kiara! Her mascot is ...actually I don't know if she has one. According to vtuber wiki, it's Kotori, which...ohhh, the little orange bird! Her fanbase is KFPs, little round chickens.
#3, RE: Hololive, Cont'd^2
Posted by CdrMike on Jan-20-24 at 09:14 PM
In response to message #1
>Kiara! Her mascot is ...actually I don't know if she has one. >According to vtuber wiki, it's Kotori, which...ohhh, the little orange >bird! >Her fanbase is KFPs, little round chickens. Who do as they're told or they get sent to "The Usual Room."
#13, RE: Hololive, Cont'd^2
Posted by Gryphon on Jan-24-24 at 12:42 PM
In response to message #3
>Who do as they're told or they get sent to "The Usual Room." Let's be honest, they're going to end up there sooner or later either way... --G. -><- Benjamin D. Hutchins, Co-Founder, Editor-in-Chief, & Forum Mod Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/ zgryphon at that email service Google has Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam.
#2, RE: Hololive, Cont'd^2
Posted by Gryphon on Jan-20-24 at 09:01 PM
In response to message #0
LAST EDITED ON Jan-20-24 AT 09:02 PM (EST) >Shiori: Mascot- Yorick, the sad-looking blob on her shoulder. > Fanbase- Novelites, little one-eyed knights. I've seen fan designs for the multiple levels of Novelite implied by the tiers of Shiori's YouTube membership scheme (Page/Bookwyrm/Novelknight), which is pretty cool. I have an odd relationship with Shiori's aesthetic. Not the "gothic hot mess" look, the whole "dark castles and weird eldritch ink drips by candlelight" thing. It's like it's really not for me, yet I somehow think it's super cool at the same time. >Nerissa: Mascot- none yet, unless you count her family* Nerissa does have a mascot: Shadow, the raven standing on her shoulder. Of course, he's black and so is her hair, so he's pretty easy to miss--which, I concede, is sort of the opposite of the point of a mascot. :) >Fuwamoco: Mascot- Peroccino, the puffball dog with wings who appears >in their opening. Pero is treated as something of a villain by the >twins. He's apparently a "friend of the family" in that "your parents' friend, kind of NOT yours" sense. > Fanbase- Ruffians, who don't have a design yet. They unveiled Ruffian designs on a recent episode of Fuwamoco Morning, and then had to scramble immediately to head off a schism in chat, since there's one that looks like Fuwawa and one that looks like Mococo. :) >going so far as to have Kiara's mom on the >official Minecraft server, and she's a fairly talented builder). That was before my time, but I've seen some clips from those streams. I love how on board she was with the kayfabe. If I were a vtuber and had my mother on stream as a guest, she would immediately call me by my real name. (I also recall her telling an Embarrassing Childhood Story about Kiara without breaking character at one point, which is bonus-points impressive. :) >It helps that Nerissa and >Aradia are both trained singers, with Nerissa being more talented, but >Aradia's no slouch either. She's a troll and a half, too. --G. -><- Benjamin D. Hutchins, Co-Founder, Editor-in-Chief, & Forum Mod Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/ zgryphon at that email service Google has Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam.
#4, RE: Hololive, Cont'd^2
Posted by Nova Floresca on Jan-20-24 at 09:26 PM
In response to message #2
>Nerissa does have a mascot: Shadow, the raven standing on her >shoulder. Of course, he's black and so is her hair, so he's pretty >easy to miss--which, I concede, is sort of the opposite of the point >of a mascot. :) I legitimately thought that was a decorative part of her outfit, I had to go back and look at her character sheet to recognize it as a bird. "This is probably a stupid question, but . . ."
#5, RE: Hololive, Cont'd^2
Posted by Proginoskes on Jan-21-24 at 07:26 PM
In response to message #0
LAST EDITED ON Jan-21-24 AT 07:28 PM (EST) Back in the first Hololive thread, CdrMike said:> They kept bringing it up and (Subaru) eventually rolled with it, so now being > a duck is so much a part of her character that she got included in Holotori > which is a grouping of all the Hololive girls with bird themes. This might be splitting an excessively fine hair, but I'd say that "being a duck" has not become part of Subaru's character/kayfabe so much as trancended it. It's still a joke, not a serious part of her character, but literally everyone (including the management at Cover Corp.) plays to it. (EDIT: square brackets to mark editorial alterations doesn't play nicely with forum markup!)
#6, RE: Hololive, Cont'd^2
Posted by Kendra Kirai on Jan-21-24 at 09:21 PM
In response to message #5
I noticed that even in the Holotori Dance video, Subaru never makes duck noises like the others make their bird sounds, so I think she's resisting via technicality :) She's NOT a bird, but she's okay with being associated with them~
#7, RE: Hololive, Cont'd^2
Posted by Spectrum on Jan-21-24 at 10:23 PM
In response to message #5
Speaking of Holotori, it should also be noted that while she can be called their intern, Nerissa is explicitly not an actual part of Holotori. As an official formed group for idol activities, they had to restrict it to 5 for production/marketing/other reasons. Idol groups also work well with 5 and no more. This also avoids other themed groups having to expand just because new generations started in the company. And, it must be said, Nerissa is perfectly okay with this.
#9, RE: Hololive, Cont'd^2
Posted by Kendra Kirai on Jan-21-24 at 11:50 PM
In response to message #7
I mean, she joined after it, but also, she doesn't *want* to be part of it, because she thinks that a group of five is the perfect idol group size. At least that's the impression I got when people started trying to get her into the group, almost immediately. :)
#10, RE: Hololive, Cont'd^2
Posted by Gryphon on Jan-22-24 at 00:24 AM
In response to message #9
LAST EDITED ON Jan-22-24 AT 09:40 AM (EST) >I mean, she joined after it, but also, she doesn't *want* to be part >of it, because she thinks that a group of five is the perfect idol >group size. At least that's the impression I got when people started >trying to get her into the group, almost immediately. :) It at least needs to be an odd number. You can't have an idol formation with two centers, that would be like a band with two visionaries. --G. <Kiara> No, we're not gonna fucking do "Stonehenge" tonight! -><- Benjamin D. Hutchins, Co-Founder, Editor-in-Chief, & Forum Mod Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/ zgryphon at that email service Google has Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam.
#8, RE: Hololive, Cont'd^2
Posted by CdrMike on Jan-21-24 at 11:27 PM
In response to message #5
>This might be splitting an excessively fine hair, but I'd say that >"being a duck" has not become part of Subaru's >character/kayfabe so much as trancended it. It's still a >joke, not a serious part of her character, but literally everyone >(including the management at Cover Corp.) plays to it. Right, she's part of the group, but not part of the craziness, as this official anime segment shows.
#11, RE: Hololive, Cont'd^2
Posted by Gryphon on Jan-22-24 at 09:42 AM
In response to message #8
>Right, she's part of the group, but not part of the craziness, as this >official anime segment shows. You can tell she's not really a bird because she can't understand what the giant chicken is saying! Also, I'm not sure why, but Mumei comes across as especially deranged whenever she appears on HoloGra. --G. -><- Benjamin D. Hutchins, Co-Founder, Editor-in-Chief, & Forum Mod Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/ zgryphon at that email service Google has Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam.
#14, RE: Hololive, Cont'd^2
Posted by CdrMike on Jan-25-24 at 01:07 AM
In response to message #11
>Also, I'm not sure why, but Mumei comes across as especially deranged >whenever she appears on HoloGra. Part of the flanderization that happens on HoloGra. See also: "Marine is a geriatric," "Chloe is narcoleptic," and "Kaela is an insane workaholic"...wait, sorry, that last one is totally accurate.
#15, RE: Hololive, Cont'd^2
Posted by Gryphon on Jan-25-24 at 02:02 AM
In response to message #14
>Part of the flanderization that happens on HoloGra. See also: "Marine >is a geriatric," "Chloe is narcoleptic," and "Kaela is an insane >workaholic"...wait, sorry, that last one is totally accurate. Yeah, I was gonna say. Kaela streamed Palworld for twenty straight hours the other day. Even her channel members became somewhat alarmed. --G. -><- Benjamin D. Hutchins, Co-Founder, Editor-in-Chief, & Forum Mod Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/ zgryphon at that email service Google has Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam.
#17, RE: Hololive, Cont'd^2
Posted by Nova Floresca on Jan-25-24 at 09:32 AM
In response to message #15
>Yeah, I was gonna say. Kaela streamed Palworld for twenty >straight hours the other day. Even her channel members became >somewhat alarmed. But not her manager- Kaela beat that impulse out of poor M-chan long ago, back when she was working a regular 9-5 office job and then streaming ~12 hours afterward. When asked about sleep, Kaela just says "streaming is my rest". Girl is built different. "This is probably a stupid question, but . . ."
#16, RE: Hololive, Cont'd^2
Posted by Kendra Kirai on Jan-25-24 at 02:51 AM
In response to message #14
Honestly, *everybody* in Hologra is somewhat deranged, even the most sweet and innocent like Ayame and Sora. .....Except the ones who are already completely deranged, like Pekora, who often end up oddly innocent. Hologra is a very 'whatever's funniest' series. :)
#12, RE: Hololive, Cont'd^2
Posted by Nova Floresca on Jan-23-24 at 04:55 PM
In response to message #0
It's not exactly a full song so I didn't put it in the music thread, but this has been living rent-free in my head for the last month."This is probably a stupid question, but . . ."
#18, RE: Hololive, Cont'd^2
Posted by Nova Floresca on Jan-25-24 at 03:00 PM
In response to message #0
I'm pathetically monolingual, so I have no idea what's going on, but I'm here for it"This is probably a stupid question, but . . ."
#19, RE: Hololive, Cont'd^2
Posted by Gryphon on Jan-25-24 at 06:53 PM
In response to message #0
I low-key love the fact that of all the holomems I've watched play some Palworld, the only one so far who has resisted the impulse to exploit the character customizer's weirdness and create a monstrous freak of a character for the luls has been... Gura, the one person you might most expect to do exactly that.--G. -><- Benjamin D. Hutchins, Co-Founder, Editor-in-Chief, & Forum Mod Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/ zgryphon at that email service Google has Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam.
#20, RE: Hololive, Cont'd^2
Posted by Spectrum on Jan-26-24 at 02:27 AM
In response to message #19
>I low-key love the fact that of all the holomems I've watched play >some Palworld, the only one so far who has resisted the impulse >to exploit the character customizer's weirdness and create a monstrous >freak of a character for the luls has been... Gura, the one person you >might most expect to do exactly that. Calli's character before used to be some horrifying mess but her current one is normal. Biboo's character has somewhat big arms (but not too big) but is otherwise normal. (I think there may have been some forced remaking on the server due to the patch?)
#21, RE: Hololive, Cont'd^2
Posted by Gryphon on Jan-26-24 at 02:31 AM
In response to message #20
>Calli's character before used to be some horrifying mess but her >current one is normal.True, but she didn't make that character until after I posted that. (I'm still watching that stream as I type! :) >(I think there may have been some forced remaking on the server due to >the patch?) She's on a different server--her original test stream was a solo game, now she's playing on the HoloEN multiplayer server. The saves don't transfer, so she had to start over. (Meanwhile, Biboo couldn't get into the EN server tonight, because the game's netcode is, to be charitable, jank as fuck, so she went and started over on the ID server to play with Kaela instead... while her base on the EN server, which is within sight of Calli's, degenerates slowly into chaos in the background of her stream, since the server is still running and Biboo's not there to do maintenance. :) --G. -><- Benjamin D. Hutchins, Co-Founder, Editor-in-Chief, & Forum Mod Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/ zgryphon at that email service Google has Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam.
#22, RE: Hololive, Cont'd^2
Posted by Spectrum on Jan-26-24 at 02:44 AM
In response to message #21
>>(I think there may have been some forced remaking on the server due to >>the patch?) > >She's on a different server--her original test stream was a solo game, >now she's playing on the HoloEN multiplayer server. The saves don't >transfer, so she had to start over. > >(Meanwhile, Biboo couldn't get into the EN server tonight, because the >game's netcode is, to be charitable, jank as fuck, so she went and >started over on the ID server to play with Kaela instead... while her >base on the EN server, which is within sight of Calli's, degenerates >slowly into chaos in the background of her stream, since the server is >still running and Biboo's not there to do maintenance. :) Aha, that makes sense. I think I saw something in passing about Bae's base having exploded while she was offline also. Thankfully the game is pretty forgiving about this sort of thing. I've unfortunately had to skip most of these streams as I'm actually playing myself and trying not to get spoiled much on boss fight mechanics and hidden stuff.
#23, RE: Hololive, Cont'd^2
Posted by Gryphon on Jan-26-24 at 02:58 AM
In response to message #22
>Aha, that makes sense. I think I saw something in passing about Bae's >base having exploded while she was offline also.I'm not sure about that, but she did manage to burn down her own house at one point. Turns out if you have a wooden house, you should probably not wield a flaming torch in melee combat indoors. --G. -><- Benjamin D. Hutchins, Co-Founder, Editor-in-Chief, & Forum Mod Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/ zgryphon at that email service Google has Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam.
#24, RE: Hololive, Cont'd^2
Posted by Kendra Kirai on Jan-26-24 at 04:08 AM
In response to message #23
LAST EDITED ON Jan-26-24 AT 04:11 AM (EST) She accidentally recreated Miko's most....one of Miko's...MANY famous clips, where she accidentally burned down her house in Minecraft. :3EDIT: (No, none of them are *that* one.)
#25, RE: Hololive, Cont'd^2
Posted by CdrMike on Jan-26-24 at 07:40 PM
In response to message #0
Kendra Kirai said:>Our cute banpire ponning herself into contract breach. At least it >seems to be fairly amicable, unlike Rushia's mess. > >Rushia, it seems to me, has some emotional, possibly psychological >issues, which ended up causing her to keep making things worse and >blaming others fur it. I think Cover made the right choice then, >because she wasn't too far from dragging the other talents down with >her in her flailing about. > >I think that if Mel had happened first, they *might* have been able to >smooth things over, but after how public and messy Rushia was, it'd >seem like blatant favoritism to hit her but not Mel, despite the >circumstances being quite different. Given the revelations of the past 24 hours, it seems more like Mel's mistake of trusting a friend in her moment of weakness was small potatoes compared to what Rushia is being accused of. For those who don't know, Rushia and Nazuna Amemiya were both played by an indie vtuber named Mikeneko until both graduated from Hololive and VShojo respectively. And back in December 2021, Rushia got involved in a major brew-up when she received messages from singer/streamer Mafumafu during a stream on a Discord channel that the chat could see. They both denied they were anything more than friends and the whole thing seemed to go quiet until the following March when she was shit-canned by Cover and confirmation was received that the two were in a relationship.
Well, Mafumafu's now released a statement in connection with a defamation trial that's about to start and...well...it's a doozy. Long and short of it is that he's admitting to having secretly gotten married to a woman he refers to as "A-san" in December 2021. Apparently the two met months prior, decided they wanted to take care of each other, and got married despite friends and family advising against it. He wanted to make an announcement, but she didn't because she was involved in internet streaming and her employer felt it was a bad idea. Then there was an incident involving him during her job, after which she became cold and distant from him. He tried to salvage the marriage by buying a home for them both, but ended up staying in his old apartment while she moved into the house alone. She became obsessive about looking for signs that he was cheating, only for him to find evidence later that she was the one being unfaithful. Finally, he filed for divorce in spring 2022, during which time she first spread false allegations about him in the press and then paid others to do so online. She tried to press him for money in the divorce, but after he filed discovery evidence that she'd cheated on him they ended up divorcing without any monetary exchange. If you're wondering if this might all be coincidental, the divorce and Nazuna's premiere over at VShojo both took place in July 2022. And the announcement that VShojo was not renewing her contract and she would be graduated without a graduation stream only days later came at the end of this past December...just as Mikeneko was learning that the defamation lawsuit against her was moving to trial.
#26, RE: Hololive, Cont'd^2
Posted by Nova Floresca on Jan-26-24 at 07:50 PM
In response to message #25
If this situation with Rushia is true, I think it explains why Mel got terminated, in that if Rushia found out that another Hololiver broke an NDA and didn't get the same treatment as her, it would give her some grounds to sue them. Considering that Rushia is apparently a walking grenade, Cover certainly wouldn't want her coming back at them, so unfortunately Mel had to fall on her sword."This is probably a stupid question, but . . ."
#30, RE: Hololive, Cont'd^2
Posted by CdrMike on Jan-27-24 at 03:18 AM
In response to message #26
>If this situation with Rushia is true, I think it explains why Mel got >terminated, in that if Rushia found out that another Hololiver broke >an NDA and didn't get the same treatment as her, it would give her >some grounds to sue them. Considering that Rushia is apparently a >walking grenade, Cover certainly wouldn't want her coming back at >them, so unfortunately Mel had to fall on her sword. So apparently I'd tuned out the post-graduation drama when Cover Corp yeeted her into the sun, because Mikeneko started squabbling with them almost immediately after she was out the door about the official statement accusing her of spreading BS and company info to outside persons, even hiring a lawyer to threaten a defamation lawsuit of her own if they refused to change the statement. Since they told her where to get off and she never filed that suit, odds are somebody in management reminded her that they only invoked the portion of her NDA that allowed them to fire her, and that she would not like it if they invoked the portion that allowed them to sue her. Especially when she was one of their biggest cash cows (#1 superchat recipient above even Coco) and they had to cancel Rushia's appearance and pull her merch ahead of the anniversary event.
#31, RE: Hololive, Cont'd^2
Posted by Kendra Kirai on Jan-27-24 at 03:33 AM
In response to message #30
Cover could have absolutely basically gotten her blacklisted from every company ever if they wanted to, I think, which would have completely scuttled her future prospects as anything more than a night shift manager at a convenience store.This Mafumafu thing will almost certainly do that anyway. (I almost wonder if it'd be too late to invite Mel back if Mikeneko is taken out of the picture as a potential danger...but I also suspect this will be more dangerous for the girls, because Mikeneko is completely insane.)
#32, RE: Hololive, Cont'd^2
Posted by CdrMike on Jan-27-24 at 04:55 AM
In response to message #31
>Cover could have absolutely basically gotten her blacklisted from >every company ever if they wanted to, I think, which would have >completely scuttled her future prospects as anything more than a night >shift manager at a convenience store. From an outsider's perspective, the only way it makes sense that they let her walk away free and clear is that dragging her to court would have been a publicity nightmare. To enforce the terms of the NDA in court would have probably meant airing a lot of dirty laundry about her relationship with Mafumafu, her secret marriage and messy divorce, and the part her obligations to the company played in the whole mess. Yeah, NDAs in Japan are practically clad in mithril and the odds she avoided financial penalties or blacklisting are slim, but it would also have meant dragging the company through the mud to collect. Better to cut their losses and leave the NDA hanging over her head in case she ever decided to come looking for more money. Considering all that's coming out, the mystery that I'm chewing over right now is if Japan has similar laws to some states here in the US that bar former employers from giving bad reviews when called for references on potential hires. Because that's the only way I can understand VShojo choosing to take a chance on hiring her so soon after her messy split with Cover Corp. >This Mafumafu thing will almost certainly do that anyway. > >(I almost wonder if it'd be too late to invite Mel back if Mikeneko is >taken out of the picture as a potential danger...but I also suspect >this will be more dangerous for the girls, because Mikeneko is >completely insane.) I doubt Mel would come back, if only because she could never guarantee that they wouldn't do the same thing again. She had a moment of weakness and told things she shouldn't have to someone she thought would remain discreet and then found herself being fired after that person reported her to her employers. Yes, it's right and proper under the terms of the NDA, but it's also a massive breach of trust that she'll probably never be able to forgive.
#33, RE: Hololive, Cont'd^2
Posted by Nova Floresca on Jan-27-24 at 08:56 AM
In response to message #32
>Considering all that's coming out, the mystery that I'm chewing over >right now is if Japan has similar laws to some states here in the US >that bar former employers from giving bad reviews when called for >references on potential hires. Because that's the only way I can >understand VShojo choosing to take a chance on hiring her so soon >after her messy split with Cover Corp.Rushia probably leaned on the fact that Coco/KSon was at VShojo to put in a good word for her. Plus, she was probably doing a decent job at the time of keeping the whole reality of the situation hidden- if her Hololive coworkers, especially gen-mates didn't shun her, then she might have looked good enough for the mess to be overlooked as a singular mistake rather than her standard operating procedure. "This is probably a stupid question, but . . ."
#37, RE: Hololive, Cont'd^2
Posted by Kendra Kirai on Jan-28-24 at 09:53 PM
In response to message #33
Welp, the Mikeneko stuff has gotten even wilder at this point. I just hope the hologirls aren't dragged into this, because this feels like a 'Get all of the testimony from everyone who knows everyone' sort of case.
#38, RE: Hololive, Cont'd^2
Posted by CdrMike on Jan-28-24 at 11:57 PM
In response to message #37
>Welp, the Mikeneko stuff has gotten even wilder at this point. I just >hope the hologirls aren't dragged into this, because this feels like a >'Get all of the testimony from everyone who knows everyone' sort of >case. So yeah, things have gone the next step, as first Mafumafu sat down for an interview and answered questions about his statement, then Mikeneko released her own statement in response to his statement. The tl;dr: is that he couldn't offer much more than what he's already said and can't show anything due to the upcoming trial, while she's playing the "Uno Reverse" move of confirming only that they were married but insists all his allegations are lies and he's the abuser and cheater. Both sides are citing the trial as reason why they can't offer much evidence and what they did offer is up to interpretation. Why yes, I have heard of the Depp/Heard case, why do you ask? /s
#39, RE: Hololive, Cont'd^2
Posted by Kendra Kirai on Jan-29-24 at 00:21 AM
In response to message #38
He seems to have more evidence on his side, as well as more overall support from the people who know both of them, at least, and she was the one who publicly confirmed that he was talking about her. She could have just let speculation happen and handled it in the background. There was a core contingent of her followers who were quite insistent (to the point of harassment) that it wasn't her. Then she cuts their legs out from under them by saying 'yeah, it's me.'This is the kind of thing she did which caused Holo to toss her on her ass. Towa had a similar accident back in the day, where a guy's voice was heard on her stream, and she just stayed quiet after a 'that's my brother/manager/whatever her excuse was, I forget, and everybody basically forgot about it in a month. Mikeneko has repeatedly now shown to be the type to scream and thrash while trying to protect herself, which just makes everything worse for her. The kind of person who's likely to end up crashing her car into a minivan full of orphans while trying to run away from the cops stopping her for a broken tail light.
#40, RE: Hololive, Cont'd^2
Posted by CdrMike on Jan-29-24 at 04:10 AM
In response to message #39
>He seems to have more evidence on his side, as well as more overall >support from the people who know both of them, at least, and >she was the one who publicly confirmed that he was talking >about her. She could have just let speculation happen and handled it >in the background. There was a core contingent of her followers who >were quite insistent (to the point of harassment) that it wasn't her. >Then she cuts their legs out from under them by saying 'yeah, it's >me.' Yeah, I did a bit of Googling the other night (When did that become a verb?) and found out that she's been involved in drama off and on before and after Hololive, so it doesn't surprise me that she felt the need to respond. Though it's also possible that her lawyer advised her to make the statement if only to tamp down speculation before the trial to avoid souring any potential jury. >This is the kind of thing she did which caused Holo to toss her on her >ass. Towa had a similar accident back in the day, where a guy's voice >was heard on her stream, and she just stayed quiet after a 'that's my >brother/manager/whatever her excuse was, I forget, and everybody >basically forgot about it in a month. The problem for Rushia besides Mafumafu being a celebrity is that her whole shtick was playing the menhara girlfriend of a bunch of horny simps. That was largely her whole act towards the end, playing the yandere girlfriend who is homicidally jealous if you even look at another girl but also constantly playing hard to get. A lot of commentators are noting (unsurprisingly) that the act wasn't so much of an act. >Mikeneko has repeatedly now shown to be the type to scream and thrash >while trying to protect herself, which just makes everything worse for >her. > >The kind of person who's likely to end up crashing her car into a >minivan full of orphans while trying to run away from the cops >stopping her for a broken tail light. I suspect that Mikeneko is one of those people whose survival instinct when in over their heads is to start blaming everybody around them in the hope that they come off looking like the victim. Not the kind who decides to play Crazy Taxi with the cops, but instead the kind who's got a list longer than a Leonard Cohen song of people whose fault it is that the taillight hasn't been fixed and can't the cops cut them a break and just tear up that ticket?
#27, a correction
Posted by Gryphon on Jan-26-24 at 08:40 PM
In response to message #0
>Mori's also off for a few weeks, returning to the US to have an >operation of some sort. She was pretty blasé about talking >about it in her last stream, though she wasn't specific about what it >is beyond describing it as "unfinished business".Calli returned to streaming with a short members' karaoke and long Palworld session last night, and in the course of the evening it became obvious that I misheard something she said about this before she went away: this trip was for some preliminary consultations and/or tests, not the surgery itself. That's happening sometime this spring. This should have been a little more obvious to me than it was, since she was only gone for a couple weeks this time and is performing in holo's big annual live festival next month. (She also bought a home in the US while she was here... and then immediately returned to Japan. I guess it's for later.) --G. -><- Benjamin D. Hutchins, Co-Founder, Editor-in-Chief, & Forum Mod Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/ zgryphon at that email service Google has Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam.
#28, RE: a correction
Posted by Spectrum on Jan-26-24 at 09:58 PM
In response to message #27
>(She also bought a home in the US while she was here... and then >immediately returned to Japan. I guess it's for later.) I hope she was able to scout it out a bit before pulling the trigger. I thought she'd set up some kind of base in the US in prior months but ended up finding out how dire American Internet is outside of metros and it was hampering her ability to stream while stateside.
#29, RE: a correction
Posted by Gryphon on Jan-27-24 at 02:30 AM
In response to message #28
>>(She also bought a home in the US while she was here... and then >>immediately returned to Japan. I guess it's for later.) > >I hope she was able to scout it out a bit before pulling the trigger.She mentioned her mother helping with it, but I'm not sure whether that was taking part in the search-and-acquire phase or just helping her move her stuff. --G. -><- Benjamin D. Hutchins, Co-Founder, Editor-in-Chief, & Forum Mod Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/ zgryphon at that email service Google has Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam.
#34, RE: Hololive, Cont'd^2
Posted by Gryphon on Jan-28-24 at 08:06 PM
In response to message #0
Maybe I should make a subboard for this stuff; it only vaguely qualified as UF Source (... so far) to begin with, and the discussion's gone much wider since.Anyway, this evening I'm one of (at time of writing) 14,066 people watching Fauna play Palworld, and it just occurred to me to wonder how often people in her position glance at the viewer count and think, I can't believe 14 thousand people are watching me play this dumb game. :) --G. -><- Benjamin D. Hutchins, Co-Founder, Editor-in-Chief, & Forum Mod Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/ zgryphon at that email service Google has Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam.
#35, RE: Hololive, Cont'd^2
Posted by Spectrum on Jan-28-24 at 08:33 PM
In response to message #34
>Maybe I should make a subboard for this stuff; it only vaguely >qualified as UF Source (... so far) to begin with, and the >discussion's gone much wider since. The funny thing is the discussion started with Hololive and it's one of the few companies where we can say none of the girls strictly -need- rescuing into a no-kill shelter. =X (Although I'm sure it would be easy to have the Myth girls freelancing for BPRD or something, I'm sure you have ideas.)
#36, RE: Hololive, Cont'd^2
Posted by Kendra Kirai on Jan-28-24 at 09:47 PM
In response to message #34
A new subboard would probably be useful, considering the varying discussion threads happening at the same time~
#41, RE: Hololive, Cont'd^2
Posted by Nova Floresca on Jan-31-24 at 09:35 AM
In response to message #0
So IRyS got a new outfit, and chat noticed it bore some resemblance to the main character of a certain infamously, memetic doujin, to which IRyS said "a Hololive member warned me chat was going to be like this, and even asked if I did it on purpose (wtf)".After the stream, she jumped over to confront the culprit. "This is probably a stupid question, but . . ."
#42, RE: Hololive, Cont'd^2
Posted by Gryphon on Jan-31-24 at 02:28 PM
In response to message #41
>After the stream, she jumped over to confront the culprit. I'm glad Kronii's ongoing cyborg conversion arc isn't changing her personality. :) --G. -><- Benjamin D. Hutchins, Co-Founder, Editor-in-Chief, & Forum Mod Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/ zgryphon at that email service Google has Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam.
#43, RE: Hololive, Cont'd^2
Posted by ImpulsiveAlexia on Feb-01-24 at 02:27 PM
In response to message #41
I don't get it.Okay, like, the resemblance is there, but I'm 99% sure I've seen Lucky Star fanart that would resemble both just as much. The elements in question are just not that unique or unusual. -IA.
(also, thanks world for reminding me that i had a story idea crossing that manga over with doki doki literature club that i was successfully not writing)
#44, RE: Hololive, Cont'd^2
Posted by Kendra Kirai on Feb-01-24 at 09:36 PM
In response to message #43
It’s the combination of the sailor uniform appearance, the big glasses, the twin braids in front of the shoulders, the hair length - and there’s a nonzero chance that the fanart you saw was also done to invoke the meme. The manga has been around for nearly eight years, and the meme itself is at minimum six (as that’s when the KnowYourMeme page for it was created).Each element is generic on its own, nobody would associate it. But pile more and more of them together and the brain does it’s thing and starts to pattern recognize.
#45, RE: Hololive, Cont'd^2
Posted by Nova Floresca on Feb-01-24 at 10:17 PM
In response to message #44
It also doesn't help that IRyS has a habit of naively walking into yabai situations, much like the infamous character in question."This is probably a stupid question, but . . ."
#46, RE: Hololive, Cont'd^2
Posted by ImpulsiveAlexia on Feb-02-24 at 00:47 AM
In response to message #44
>and there’s a nonzero chance that the fanart you saw was also done >to invoke the meme. That, at least, is temporally unlikely; I'd largely moved on from the LS fandom by 2011 or so. But I can find much older art of other franchises that ticks about the same set of boxes. (Now, the idea that the common fan design for DDLC Amy was intended to be a reference is at least temporally plausible, but I've never heard anyone suggesting it. Plus, very different (preexisting form factor) uniform style. Not that I'm even sure who came up with the design...) -IA. (received information not interpretable)
#47, RE: Hololive, Cont'd^2
Posted by Spectrum on Feb-04-24 at 11:25 PM
In response to message #0
Axel was the first of the HoloEN boys to be able to showcase his 3D with a great concert.
#48, RE: Hololive, Cont'd^2
Posted by CdrMike on Feb-05-24 at 01:25 AM
In response to message #0
This just in: Cover Corp HQ has a rat problem.Alternatively, Bae got the IRL broom closet ending.
#49, RE: Hololive, Cont'd^2
Posted by Nova Floresca on Feb-06-24 at 10:30 AM
In response to message #0
Meanwhile, here's Seiso Idol Fuwawa asking Reine how to say one of her favorite words in Indonesian."This is probably a stupid question, but . . ."
#52, RE: Hololive, Cont'd^2
Posted by Gryphon on Feb-08-24 at 03:43 PM
In response to message #49
>Meanwhile, here's Seiso Idol Fuwawa asking Reine how to say >one of her favorite words in Indonesian. Ha, I remember Biboo telling Calli about Fuwawa teaching her this word. I think it was in one of the streams when they were building/dewatering their giant undersea dome in Minecraft. --G. -><- Benjamin D. Hutchins, Co-Founder, Editor-in-Chief, & Forum Mod Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/ zgryphon at that email service Google has Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam.
#50, On A Lighter Note
Posted by Nova Floresca on Feb-08-24 at 08:34 AM
In response to message #0
Here's Kronii dressed up as Wada Arco's other long-legged sadist, Meltryllis (art is slightly NSFW, nothing showing)."This is probably a stupid question, but . . ."
#53, RE: On A Lighter Note
Posted by Gryphon on Feb-08-24 at 03:44 PM
In response to message #50
>Here's Kronii dressed up as Wada Arco's other long-legged sadist, >Meltryllis (art is slightly >NSFW, nothing showing). In fairness, Kronii's default costume is slightly NSFW anyway. --G. -><- Benjamin D. Hutchins, Co-Founder, Editor-in-Chief, & Forum Mod Eyrie Productions, Unlimited http://www.eyrie-productions.com/ zgryphon at that email service Google has Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam.
#51, RE: Hololive, Cont'd^2
Posted by Spectrum on Feb-08-24 at 10:46 AM
In response to message #0
Ina starting Granblue Fantasy Relink and having trauma from Granblue FantasyAs the kids say: "She's just like me fr fr"
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