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#0, Indie VTuber Thread 4: Only Four?
Posted by The Traitor on May-02-26 at 05:04 PM
LAST EDITED ON May-02-26 AT 05:06 PM (EDT)
 
Thought we'd have more by now. Y'know, considering the VShojo of it all.

Starting out with a bang:-

They said it couldn't be done. They said it shouldn't be done. They said stop fist-fighting people in the Tesco car park. BUT BEHOLD!

RIN PENROSE... TWO!

Everyone's favourite independent British VTuber who talks about sharks way too much has finally done a VTubery thing and redebuted with a shiny new model that wasn't a rushed-to-production accidental ace pride flag over which Bin had minimal input. The theme? Well that would be telling, wouldn't it? Watch the vod, it's been four years since the last model debut, she's earned it.

... Given the four-year gap between mainline models, does this make Rin Penrose the anti-IronMouse? More on this as it develops.

Speaking of Mouse, she has mildly traumatised professional DM and guy who dresses like mid-00s fanfic depictions of Professor Snape Matt Mercer. You can find that here! This was a one-shot for charity alongside Bubi, AiCandii, and Alpharad TheOdd1sOut Kairyu Crocodile from Beastiez. Looks like they had a fun time!

Goddamn there's a lot of Vtuber lore jokes in this opening post. I am sure I will regret it immediately. =]

---
"She's old, she's lame, she's barren too, // "She's not worth feed or hay, // "But I'll give her this," - he blew smoke at me - // "She was something in her day." -- Garnet Rogers, Small Victory

FiMFiction.net: we might accept blatant porn involving the cast of My Little Pony but as God is my witness we have standards.

also jp holostars might be indies soon if the open revolt was anything to go by, so watch this space, sports fans.


#1, RE: Indie VTuber Thread 4: Only Four?
Posted by CdrMike on May-03-26 at 00:10 AM
In response to message #0
>They said it couldn't be done. They said it shouldn't be done. They
>said stop fist-fighting people in the Tesco car park. BUT BEHOLD!
>
>RIN PENROSE... TWO!
>
>Everyone's favourite independent British VTuber who talks about sharks
>way too much has finally done a VTubery thing and redebuted with a
>shiny new model that wasn't a rushed-to-production accidental
>ace pride flag over which Bin had minimal input. The theme? Well that
>would be telling, wouldn't it? Watch the vod, it's been four years
>since the last model debut, she's earned it.
>
>... Given the four-year gap between mainline models, does this make
>Rin Penrose the anti-IronMouse? More on this as it develops.

The clippers have been kind enough to cut to the chase of the reveal of the magnificent Bin Benrose 2.0.

*sigh* I'll admit, I'm gonna miss the old look. It sorta feels like seeing a corpo vtuber you've grown familiar with going back to their indie look (or, in the case of a particular baku nurse, a whole new one).


#2, RE: Indie VTuber Thread 4: Only Four?
Posted by Gryphon on May-03-26 at 00:34 AM
In response to message #1
>*sigh* I'll admit, I'm gonna miss the old look. It sorta feels like
>seeing a corpo vtuber you've grown familiar with going back to their
>indie look (or, in the case of a particular baku nurse, a whole new
>one).

She's not anti-matter-universe Shiori any more!

--G.
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#3, RE: Indie VTuber Thread 4: Only Four?
Posted by Kendra Kirai on May-03-26 at 03:23 AM
In response to message #2
> She's not anti-matter-universe Shiori any more!

I think they'd still mutually annihilate each other on contact though.


#4, RE: Indie VTuber Thread 4: Only Four?
Posted by Nova Floresca on May-03-26 at 08:50 AM
In response to message #3
>> She's not anti-matter-universe Shiori any more!
>
>I think they'd still mutually annihilate each other on contact though.

Or become instant besties and annihilate the rest of us with pure, unfiltered Shenanigans.

"This is probably a stupid question, but . . ."


#5, RE: Indie VTuber Thread 4: Only Four?
Posted by Spectrum on May-03-26 at 01:36 PM
In response to message #0
Here is the debut of a brand new indie and clipped.

Most likely the re-debut of <Hiodoshi Ao>.


#7, RE: Indie VTuber Thread 4: Only Four?
Posted by CdrMike on May-03-26 at 03:08 PM
In response to message #5
>Here is the debut of a brand >new indie> and clipped.
>
>Most likely the re-debut of <Hiodoshi Ao>.

Seems to be the pattern now: Get driven to the point of physical and/or mental exhaustion, announce your graduation with little warning and even less lead-time, then a new (or old) indie account pops up with a amazingly familiar voice.


#6, RE: Indie VTuber Thread 4: Only Four?
Posted by CdrMike on May-03-26 at 03:03 PM
In response to message #0
And now John VTuber explains the new model.

tl;dw: The debut model was a rush job, various efforts to replace it fell victim to the vicissitudes* of fate, and so now this is the new Rin...but there might be a new one later...in 3 years or so.

*Yes, I used to own a Word-A-Day calendar.


#8, RE: Indie VTuber Thread 4: Only Four?
Posted by ImpulsiveAlexia on May-19-26 at 02:38 PM
In response to message #0
In other news, Offkai has announced that Fansly is sponsoring them, and it feels like a bunch of people have left their brains at home.

Seriously, if I see another person going on about it like they're gonna have the porn out in the open in a 13+ area, I'm gonna lose it. Cons in general and this one in specific have been doing sequestration of 18+ material at non-18+ events for years, they probably have a better grasp of the principles than that.

There's even arguments I could at least grant "I can see where they're coming from" that even without doing that it's not a great idea for Fansly to have a booth in the general area, but no one who seems to hold positions like that ever gets into the meat of it, that's apparently reserved for the crowd screaming about holes showing.

-IA.

(and do i even have to mention the raging whorephobia)


#9, RE: Indie VTuber Thread 4: Only Four?
Posted by Mephron on May-19-26 at 02:59 PM
In response to message #8
>In other news, Offkai has announced that Fansly is sponsoring them,
>and it feels like a bunch of people have left their brains at home.

Ah, puriteens and their ilk. To quote from a movie, "What a bunch of a-holes."

>Seriously, if I see another person going on about it like they're
>gonna have the porn out in the open in a 13+ area, I'm gonna lose it.
>Cons in general and this one in specific have been doing sequestration
>of 18+ material at non-18+ events for years, they probably have
>a better grasp of the principles than that.

I'm old enough to remember when seeing the 18+ stuff in the open at the dealer's room at A-kon and Katsucon was considered normal, and it was a parent's responsibility to keep the kids away from it (or, you know, not - I know someone whose awakening was looking at a Dark Stalkers doujins). And, you know, some recent absolute bullshit from the FCC makes me look at the whole "keeping the kids safe" Puritanism makes me feel, once again, that there are too many intact kneecaps and/or jawbones amongst the theopolitical class.

>There's even arguments I could at least grant "I can see where they're
>coming from" that even without doing that it's not a great idea for
>Fansly to have a booth in the general area, but no one who seems to
>hold positions like that ever gets into the meat of it, that's
>apparently reserved for the crowd screaming about holes showing.

Compartmentalizing things like this may be smart, but in another sense it's just giving in to these McJerks and they shouldn't be pre-surrendered to. On the other hand, this means that some people CottontailVA, looking at you will have double the chance to do meet-and-greets.

>(and do i even have to mention the raging whorephobia)

Nope. It's pretty obvious that's the core of it.

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"This may not be a good idea, but it's the only one I have."


#10, RE: Indie VTuber Thread 4: Only Four?
Posted by Nova Floresca on May-19-26 at 04:38 PM
In response to message #9
>there are too many intact
>kneecaps and/or jawbones amongst the theopolitical class.

"You're a mentally and emotionally maladjusted person, Mr./Ms. $_Politican's_Name, and unfortunately my wrench only adjusts bones."

*CRUNCH*

"This is probably a stupid question, but . . ."


#11, RE: Indie VTuber Thread 4: Only Four?
Posted by Gryphon on May-19-26 at 11:54 PM
In response to message #8
>Seriously, if I see another person going on about it like they're
>gonna have the porn out in the open in a 13+ area, I'm gonna lose it.

Who else here remembers when the JList guy reacted to this kind of flap erupting at another con Back In the Day (I think maybe the one in DFW, which I can't remember the name of because I was always bummed they didn't call it Texacon, but it might've been AX) by throwing an entire 55-gallon drum of gasoline on the fire?

--G.
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#12, RE: Indie VTuber Thread 4: Only Four?
Posted by Spectrum on Jun-12-26 at 10:36 AM
In response to message #0
Shigure Ui Nendo

#17, RE: Indie VTuber Thread 4: Only Four?
Posted by Spectrum on Jul-03-26 at 03:10 PM
In response to message #12
Another Ui Nendo

#13, RE: Indie VTuber Thread 4: Only Four?
Posted by Nova Floresca on Jun-19-26 at 06:20 PM
In response to message #0
In which Rin Penrose constructs a functional airport without difficulty.

"This is probably a stupid question, but . . ."


#22, RE: Indie VTuber Thread 4: Only Four?
Posted by Nova Floresca on Jul-11-26 at 06:35 PM
In response to message #13
And also receives a business email.

"I would never say something normal, fuck you!"

"This is probably a stupid question, but . . ."


#14, RE: Indie VTuber Thread 4: Only Four?
Posted by Gryphon on Jun-20-26 at 03:38 PM
In response to message #0
Happy birthday, Sameko Saba, wherever you are. I hope you're on the mend and feeling OK on this, our shared birthday.

--G.
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#15, RE: Indie VTuber Thread 4: Only Four?
Posted by Aberrant Eyes on Jun-20-26 at 09:13 PM
In response to message #14
Oh hey, I almost forgot! Hipy papy bthuthdth thuthda bthuthdy!

-Z
who thinks he's Clever Like That sometimes


#16, RE: Indie VTuber Thread 4: Only Four?
Posted by Gryphon on Jun-20-26 at 11:11 PM
In response to message #15
>Oh hey, I almost forgot! Hipy papy bthuthdth thuthda bthuthdy!

COMMANDER BART MANCUSO, USN
(exasperated but patient)
I'm not following you, Jonesy.

--G.
I mean, I get it, but I couldn't resist.
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#18, Doki Doki Rewind Time
Posted by Gryphon on Jul-03-26 at 04:35 PM
In response to message #0
It's a busy weekend in LA this weekend, between AX, A250, HoloEN Serendipity, and Dokibird, Chibidoki, and a cast of capital-C Characters in Doki and Doki's live show tomorrow night. Streaming tickets here.

I still don't know how "SPWN" is supposed to be pronounced. Probably "spawn", but my brain insists on parsing it "spoon". :)

--G.
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#19, RE: Doki Doki Rewind Time
Posted by Gryphon on Jul-05-26 at 01:28 AM
In response to message #18
>It's a busy weekend in LA this weekend, between AX, A250, HoloEN
>Serendipity, and Dokibird, Chibidoki, and a cast of capital-C
>Characters in Doki and Doki's live show tomorrow night.
>Streaming tickets here.
>
>I still don't know how "SPWN" is supposed to be pronounced. Probably
>"spawn", but my brain insists on parsing it "spoon". :)

This show was great, by the way. As with Doki's mini-concert at AX last year, I'm... not 100% sold on all the song choices, but even so. The energy is fantastic. Doki's come so far.

--G.
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#20, RE: Indie VTuber Thread 4: Only Four?
Posted by Spectrum on Jul-05-26 at 01:45 AM
In response to message #0
School Days Remastered Reveals Full English Dub Voice Cast
> Kotonoha Katsura – Katelyn Barr
> Sekai Saionji – Brittany Lauda
> Makoto Itou – P.M. Seymour
> Setsuna Kiyoura – Jalitza Delgado
> Otome Katou – Sara Ragsdale
> Hikari Kuroda – Kayli Mills
> Nanami Kanroji – Bakusatsuho
> Taisuke Sawanaga – Jesse Inocalla
> Kokoro Katsura – Phoebe Chan
> Youko Saionji – Michaela Laws
> Manami Katsura – Gina Galore
> Roka Kitsuregawa – Alexandra Mari
> Kumi Mori – Mint Fantôme
> Minami Obuchi – Laura Faverty
> Koizumi Natsumi – Tempty
> Itaru – Diana Garnet
> Futaba / Kazuha Nijou – Angel Haven Rey
> Kyouichi Kasannoin – Brandon Acosta

(Posted here because check the cast list)


#21, RE: Indie VTuber Thread 4: Only Four?
Posted by Kendra Kirai on Jul-05-26 at 03:56 AM
In response to message #20
LAST EDITED ON Jul-05-26 AT 04:39 AM (EDT)
 
PM SEYMOUR?? Wow, uh, good for him!

(Mint, of course, yeah, but like, *the tumblr narrator person on youtube with the avatar*???)


#23, RE: Indie VTuber Thread 4: Only Four?
Posted by Mephron on Jul-20-26 at 10:05 AM
In response to message #0
A new collab team of indies is coming up on YouTube: the WildCard Club!

Who are they?

The Satanic VTuber Princess of Pop..... IRONMOUSE!

The Multiversal Monarch and Queen of Scuff..... AMALEE!

The Unstoppable, the Unbreakable, the One Person Who Can Mostly Calm Chibidoki..... DOKIBIRD!

And John VTuber himself, The One, The Only, The Apparently Unchanging... RIN PENROSE!

What madness will they come up with?

Watch the trailer and find out.


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Jen Dantes - Darth Mephron
Haberdasher to Androids, Dark Lady of Sith Tech Support.
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#26, RE: Indie VTuber Thread 4: Only Four?
Posted by CdrMike on Aug-01-26 at 10:06 PM
In response to message #23
Not to be left out, Vex has sent in her own audition tape.

#24, a reflection while awaiting a stream
Posted by Gryphon on Jul-25-26 at 09:37 PM
In response to message #0
It will just never not be funny to me that Dokibird has the same animation with the same song on her loading screen as she did at the corpo job from hell. :)

--G.
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#25, RE: a reflection while awaiting a stream
Posted by Kendra Kirai on Jul-26-26 at 00:23 AM
In response to message #24
"They can't copyright the word Dragoons!"

They couldn't kill her in a way that matters~ ....They sure did try, though.

Her theme was even just public domain stuff, wasn't it? Just needed to be re-animated.


#27, RE: a reflection while awaiting a stream
Posted by Gryphon on Aug-01-26 at 10:43 PM
In response to message #25
>"They can't copyright the word Dragoons!"
>
>They couldn't kill her in a way that matters~ ....They sure did try,
>though.
>
>Her theme was even just public domain stuff, wasn't it? Just needed to
>be re-animated.

Yeah. The glee when she realized/discovered that the song was license-free...

"They didn't use copyrighted music, guys!"

--G.
technically I think it is copyrighted, the owner of same just doesn't require its use to be licensed
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#28, RE: Indie VTuber Thread 4: Only Four?
Posted by Spectrum on Aug-02-26 at 11:39 AM
In response to message #0
Took a little for this one to start percolating out there.
Debut from a couple months back for Hanamae Haru.

Most likely the re-debut of <Harusaki Nodoka>.

--

Also from last month, but preorder is still open for another month
Ririsya 3D Live for 100k
1st original EP


#29, RE: Indie VTuber Thread 4: Only Four?
Posted by ImpulsiveAlexia on Sep-28-26 at 03:13 AM
In response to message #0
We got some interesting Sinder-related developments recently.

Sinder and Vienna were both at Otakuthon in August, and apparently spent a good amount of time together. And Sinder talked a lot about it on stream afterwards, which considering some things she's said I took to mean that Vienna had explicitly said she was comfortable being publicly associated with Sinder again.

Which was confirmed when they did a collab not too many days ago.

It had been my thinking for a while that the first time Sinder collabed with one of the old guard might cause a lot of people to reevaluate things, possibly including other members of said old guard. Still early days for that though.

But that's not all! Someone noticed a while back that Nano's doc had been deleted; based on "how google does things" it apparently would have been not long after Sinder posted her cover of Unknown Mother Goose. (Which had a lot of Does This Remind You Of Anything things put in by Sacramore.*)

And then, just yesterday... Nano apologized!

Not to everyone's satisfaction, and Lucia read some people the riot act for saying Nano shouldn't have even posted anything publicly. (Which of course got it's share of "No, it's you Sinder's actual friend who are wrong", because we can't have nice things.) And per both Sinder and Lucia, there was a private apology some time before this.

So, yeah, wasn't expecting to hear about that today. It does bring to mind a question I saw someone ask after Nano's doc disappearing was noticed - Would Sinder forgive/work with Nanoless again?

I don't know. On the one hand, to quote I-don't-remember-what-story, "There's so much to forgive, man!" On the other... Sinder really seemed to love Nano a lot. Like, it kind of felt like the way they'd interact on stream together was enough to give the phrase "model mama" real weight?

And in the department of "I'm not sure what's going on", someone said Camila was on decent terms with Sinder again. Anyone know anything about that? I was disappointed with her response in particular, so that's good news if true, but I'm not sure where it came from.

*Though it's not nearly as sharp-edged as if she'd covered Audioslave's Cochise. Which is an image that got stuck in my head after some people posted faux album covers with Sinder, Pixxi, Veliful, and Lucia.

-IA.

(received information not interpretable)


#30, RE: Indie VTuber Thread 4: Only Four?
Posted by CdrMike on Sep-28-26 at 10:29 AM
In response to message #29
>And then, just yesterday... Nano apologized!
>
>Not to everyone's satisfaction, and Lucia read some people the riot
>act for saying Nano shouldn't have even posted anything publicly.
>(Which of course got it's share of "No, it's you Sinder's actual
>friend who are wrong", because we can't have nice things.) And per
>both Sinder and Lucia, there was a private apology some time before
>this.
>
>So, yeah, wasn't expecting to hear about that today. It does bring to
>mind a question I saw someone ask after Nano's doc disappearing was
>noticed - Would Sinder forgive/work with Nanoless again?
>
>I don't know. On the one hand, to quote I-don't-remember-what-story,
>"There's so much to forgive, man!" On the other... Sinder really
>seemed to love Nano a lot. Like, it kind of felt like the way they'd
>interact on stream together was enough to give the phrase "model mama"
>real weight?

Yeah, Sinder's confirmed that the private apology was made months ago, yet the doc remained up and Nano said nothing publicly about the whole affair. Then yesterday, the doc comes down and she makes a public apology that is worded as though it's the first time she's reached out to Sinder in over a year and has no idea if it will ever be acknowledged. I'm leaning toward agreeing with those on YT and Reddit who believe that this is all performative, that Nano's desperate due to commissions and viewership falling off a cliff, and would even venture a guess that this "apology" is about trying to get Sinder to publicly forgive her in order to begin rebuilding her reputation.

It still feels genuinely like this is something that could have been worked out privately that was only aired publicly because somebody (*couLilygh*) believed they had something to gain from destroying Sinder's reputation. Sinder owned up to her behavior months ago and has been trying ever since to rebuild which seems to be working as her subs have largely recovered and she's found new sponsers. And now Nano is apologizing publicly, even if the motivation is more about convincing others that she's stable enough to be trusted again than it is a sincere belief that she screwed up.

How will the big players in the drama respond? It's hard to say because it felt (and still feels) like Nano's accusations simply laid bare a lot of existing beefs between everyone. Even those who tried to avoid the drama by keeping quiet or saying little ended up hounded by the fans of those who wanted Sinder strung up. Vienna and (possibly) Camila making peace are proof that it's possible to rebuild bridges, but I think some of the others at the center of this (Lily, Numi, Bao, Yuzu, and Tricky) may be too prideful to bury the hatchet.


#31, RE: Indie VTuber Thread 4: Only Four?
Posted by ImpulsiveAlexia on Sep-28-26 at 03:32 PM
In response to message #30
> Then yesterday, the doc comes down

Er, no, the doc came down at the beginning of August. Which means, as I understand it, that Nano had to have put it in her trash at the beginning of July.

So, that may or may not have been contemporaneous with her apologizing privately to Sinder (how many months is "months"?*), but it probably wasn't that long after.

*Well, and I just watched the clip of Sinder talking about it and she said "earlier this year", so I'm thinking yeah, it was probably contemporaneous.

>and she makes a public
>apology that is worded as though it's the first time she's reached out
>to Sinder in over a year and has no idea if it will ever be
>acknowledged.

Except we know they have, in fact, been in contact. So... I don't know, no one's been able to explain what bizarre hidden meaning is in there to explain how she couldn't have just misspoke ffs.

>I'm leaning toward agreeing with those on YT and Reddit
>who believe that this is all performative, that Nano's desperate due
>to commissions and viewership falling off a cliff, and would even

Well, looking at twitchtracker, her viewership is... basically completely unpredictable, but her followers are holding steady/slightly increasing, and she just had a GamerSupps drop...

So, yeah, I'm gonna call (Citation Needed) on that one.

> Vienna and
>(possibly) Camila making peace are proof that it's possible to rebuild
>bridges, but I think some of the others at the center of this (Lily,
>Numi, Bao, Yuzu, and Tricky) may be too prideful to bury the hatchet.

Yuzu and Tricky were never that aggro in the first place though, and they're known to have been in contact more recently. (I think they've both been seen in Sinder's streams? Yuzu definitely has.) I think it's just a matter of time for them.

As for others, well... I find myself thinking that this whole "how dare you apologize" trend probably does not, in fact, create an environment conducive to publicly admitting that you fucked up, and this does not strike me as desirable. (In this particular case, I also feel it goes against Sinder's stated wishes.)

-IA.

(received information not interpretable)


#32, RE: Indie VTuber Thread 4: Only Four?
Posted by CdrMike on Sep-29-26 at 01:58 PM
In response to message #31
>Er, no, the doc came down at the beginning of August. Which means, as
>I understand it, that Nano had to have put it in her trash at the
>beginning of July.
>
>So, that may or may not have been contemporaneous with her apologizing
>privately to Sinder (how many months is "months"?*), but it probably
>wasn't that long after.
>
>*Well, and I just watched the clip of Sinder talking about it and she
>said "earlier this year", so I'm thinking yeah, it was probably
>contemporaneous.

You're right, it'd been so long that I'd forgotten the sequence of events and the way others were talking about it made it seem as though the removal was recent.

And yes, I agree that the most likely scenario given Sinder saying that Nano had apologized in private suggests that it was contemporaneous with the decision to remove the doc.

>Except we know they have, in fact, been in contact. So... I don't
>know, no one's been able to explain what bizarre hidden meaning is in
>there to explain how she couldn't have just misspoke ffs.

There's nothing bizarre about wanting to be publicly forgiven, especially if the goal is to rehabilitate your public image.

>Well, looking at twitchtracker, her viewership is... basically
>completely unpredictable, but her followers are holding
>steady/slightly increasing, and she just had a GamerSupps drop...
>
>So, yeah, I'm gonna call (Citation Needed) on that one.

I admit the last few weeks have been a mess so I'm relying upon what I'm reading more than first-hand experience, i.e. I probably am talking out of my ass.

>Yuzu and Tricky were never that aggro in the first place though, and
>they're known to have been in contact more recently. (I think they've
>both been seen in Sinder's streams? Yuzu definitely has.) I think it's
>just a matter of time for them.
>
>As for others, well... I find myself thinking that this whole "how
>dare you apologize" trend probably does not, in fact, create an
>environment conducive to publicly admitting that you fucked up, and
>this does not strike me as desirable. (In this particular case, I also
>feel it goes against Sinder's stated wishes.)

No offense, but that ship sailed the moment Nano put out the doc and the other players in this mess posted their own while publicly attacking their "friend" over personal beefs. And it got torpedoed below the waterline and capsized the moment that the fandom of those who were involved began attacking anyone even remotely connected for failure to adequately denounce Sinder and all her works.

But, Sinder has accepted both apologies from Nano as well as Spite's own mea culpa while asking everyone to respect her decision and not attack either party. And that's where I'm gonna leave it, because I think she's probably where I'm at in accepting what's done is done and moving on.


#36, RE: Indie VTuber Thread 4: Only Four?
Posted by Kendra Kirai on Oct-11-26 at 03:21 PM
In response to message #32
This might or might not have something to do with the timing of everything.

#37, RE: Indie VTuber Thread 4: Only Four?
Posted by Nova Floresca on Oct-11-26 at 06:35 PM
In response to message #36
Of all the things that have happened since the Big Bang . . . this is certainly one of them.

"This is probably a stupid question, but . . ."


#38, RE: Indie VTuber Thread 4: Only Four?
Posted by CdrMike on Oct-11-26 at 06:44 PM
In response to message #36
>This might or
>might not have something to do with the timing of everything.

Well! I definitely did not have that on my bingo card.


#33, RE: Indie VTuber Thread 4: Only Four?
Posted by Gryphon on Oct-03-26 at 03:09 PM
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After a lengthy period of radio silence, Sameko Saba has abruptly dropped a stream room for a costume reveal this evening. Hopefully that means she's got a handle on the health problems that prompted her to shut off memberships and go silent some time ago...

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#34, RE: Indie VTuber Thread 4: Only Four?
Posted by Kendra Kirai on Oct-03-26 at 09:37 PM
In response to message #33
LAST EDITED ON Oct-03-26 AT 09:50 PM (EDT)
 
Clipped version of her health/stream updates. I haven't watched it, yet, so I can't summarize.

EDIT:
Okay, basically, she has a chronic illness, has for she doesn't know how many years, and since february she's literally just been bed rest and trying to stabilize. She'll be taking more breaks during streams I think the means? She'll be going slow going forward still tho.

It got to points where she thought she was just thinking she was "going to go offline forever" (Make of that what you will) and tried to make prerecorded things a whole bunch of times that kept going super poorly.

And that's basically it.


#35, RE: Indie VTuber Thread 4: Only Four?
Posted by Gryphon on Oct-03-26 at 11:52 PM
In response to message #34
>She'll be taking more breaks during streams I
>think the means?

Yeah. She used to be known for streaming nonstop for many hours, without even taking bathroom breaks. She doesn't have the endurance to do that any more (and it's a distinctly unhealthy working pattern to begin with).

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#39, RE: Indie VTuber Thread 4: Only Four?
Posted by Spectrum on Oct-31-26 at 11:34 PM
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Have been at idolfes 2026. I have pictures but in lieu of flooding the forum with those, some of the performers got their sections sent by staff or were directly streaming during it to begin with.

From the Virtual Stardust night concert:
Vampirate Odessa (she's graduating in a week, so keep an ear out in a couple months)
Stella Fos

And today's Main Stages:
Victoria Roman
Phoebe, in 3D form with vtubing only for pre-recorded videos as bridging between her songs