So on top of being monetized IMMEDIATELY - her first stream back was apparently enough - during her monetization celebration stream, she decided on the name of her fan base. They will henceforth be known as...

DRAGOONS.

See, she figured that since Dragoon is an actual thing, and can't be copyrighted, she'd throw that into the fan name vote. Of course it won. :3

She seems to be doing exceptionally well now that she's back, and she says she's happiest when she's working - *doing* things, and it certainly seems that way. She's already working on a year's worth of events, she's got a merch store up, she's well on her way to having her old sub count back...and she's got (or getting) SPONSORS to help pay for things.

She's objectively better off now than she was two months ago, while Nijisanji has taken a massive reputation hit, their stock price has plummeted, and they're delaying planned events with language suggesting that they're doing so because they care about their talents - which is verifiably false.

>See, she figured that since Dragoon is an actual thing, and can't be
>copyrighted, she'd throw that into the fan name vote. Of course it
>won. :3

To be fair, that only happened after she 86ed both of the actual frontrunners. I'm not saying the thing was rigged, but... it was aliens. :)

>She's already working on a year's worth of
>events, she's got a merch store up, she's well on her way to having
>her old sub count back...and she's got (or getting) SPONSORS to help
>pay for things.

"I guess I'm sorta speedrunning the vtuber getting-established arc," or words to that effect.

(Elsewhere in that stream she talked about her actual speedrunning records, including a hilarious tangent about having been rejected by whoever compiles said records for, of all games, Peppa Pig. "The Peppa Pig speedrunning community is very serious indeed... They are not here to fuck around.")

>She's objectively better off now than she was two months ago, while
>Nijisanji has taken a massive reputation hit

It seems like they were already on a bad patch of road, but now they've kind of driven off a cliff.

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>>See, she figured that since Dragoon is an actual thing, and can't be
>>copyrighted, she'd throw that into the fan name vote. Of course it
>>won. :3
>
>To be fair, that only happened after she 86ed both of the actual
>frontrunners. I'm not saying the thing was rigged, but... it was
>aliens. :)

To be fair, Freebird deserved it after getting her comeback stream demonetized because someone used her Twitch commands to get the song played. XD

And the other, Nesticles, is.... not the best? For further monetization either :3 (and only makes me think of 8 bit emulation, because I'm old enough to have *used* that particular program.)

>And the other, Nesticles, is.... not the best?

They'd have to pronounce it like a name from Greek mythology for it to work. Like the mascot of the old pre-Adam Savage version of tested.com, Testicles. :)

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>To be fair, Freebird deserved it after getting her comeback stream
>demonetized because someone used her Twitch commands to get the song
>played. XD

As I believe the young persons say, "skill issue tbh". :)

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>It seems like they were already on a bad patch of road, but now
>they've kind of driven off a cliff.

Like the end of Thelma and Louise, or any given episode of Speed Racer.

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I very rarely get recs for Niji streams on my YT home screen. Are you trying to get me to take a side, YouTube? Joke's on you, I did that days ago.

I am kind of curious, in an "I look forward to finding out later what that was about" way.

EDIT: She's talking about having to cut the Neopets stream short to go talk to her lawyer, so... that can't be great. :/

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So, for others, Selen/Doki gave her lawyers documentation that was intended to ONLY go to her lawyer, the court, and the opposing lawyers.

Nijisanji then proceeded to show the entire stable of EN talents said legal documents, and make three of them make an announcement about it.

This is INCREDIBLY illegal, and Nijisanji just announced to the world that they did it.

>Nijisanji then proceeded to show the entire stable of EN talents said
>legal documents, and make three of them make an announcement about it.

Precisely timed to conflict with (and, in the event, cause her to abandon) her first gaming stream since redebut, which was on the schedule for this week that she published over the weekend. That doesn't seem like it can possibly be coincidental. (It does, however, seem incredibly petty.)

>This is INCREDIBLY illegal, and Nijisanji just announced to the world
>that they did it.

It's also a massive dick move—I guess technically four massive dick moves—but I guess that's not really a surprise at this point.

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What I want to know is how is this company even still in business? Not in a rhetorical sense, I mean as in literally "is there anyone taking time away from the drama to pay the bills?"

"This is probably a stupid question, but . . ."

Nobody at NijisanjiEN paid any bills anyway, they just had Selen do it from her personal account.

Now, it's on Elira's channel, and she's there - but clearly doesn't want to be.

I have a theory; it's pure speculation, but it fits the company's MO.

See, Elira is in Japan right now, she came to commentate a mario kart tournament that was delayed for reasons of 'Looking out for {the} livers' - Many of whom haven't streamed or been heard of since Selen's termination.

Anyway, Elira's in Japan right now. She's probably there with a work visa, because she wouldn't really be allowed to do some official thing without one, right? I don't actually know how that works. And Niji PROBABLY gave her a travel budget for this official event.

My personal speculative theory is that they're essentially holding her hostage. They can revoke her travel budget, leaving her on the hook for all of those expenses while she waits around for them to hold the event, PLUS Nijisanji is known for shadow suspensions, during which, since they aren't streaming, they aren't getting any superchats, which means their income is essentially zero for the duration of this suspension.

PLUS, Elira's whole career - particularly musical - is tied to being Elira right now.

Thus, I think that if she *didn't* put this on her channel, and participate with the attack like Niji management told her to, she'd be ULTRA fucked, and Anycolor knows it and counted on it.

I have no real knowledge of Ike Eveland, who was part of the trio in that video, but Vox Akuma is a bit of a sociopathic shitlord, so I'm not surprised at it coming from him.

Incidentally, Canada is 'single party consent', so Selen recording Vox is perfectly legal, regardless of his feelings. (Ironic, by the way, considering he got in trouble a couple months back for RPing being in physical distress and ended up basically saying 'I can't put trigger warnings on everything, it's your problem, not mine, if your feewings are huwt' and talking about how haarrrrd it is for him when all anybody was asking him for was a sign on screen saying 'Currently Roleplaying'.)

Yeah, that screamed hostage situation with a gun to her head from Elira's side. Just tragic all around.

Oh, and I didn't mention - they seemed to have a script or otherwise prepared statement, because you could hear paper shuffling about. AND it was exactly q5 minutes long. That screams of being scripted out and prerecorded, which makes Niji's decision to post it then especially petty

>Thus, I think that if she *didn't* put this on her channel, and
>participate with the attack like Niji management told her to, she'd be
>ULTRA fucked, and Anycolor knows it and counted on it.

That's brutal. I kinda hope you're wrong, though if I'm honest I suspect you're probably not.

Even before this part happened, all this reminded me uncomfortably of the last couple months of my last day job. That whole "management suddenly turns on you for no fucking reason, then acts like your dismay is some kind of attack on them" thing. :/

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You know, I'm trying not to go on rants about how I think vtuber agencies have too much power and how they especially shouldn't control the identity, but good god. -.-

-IA.

(received information not interpretable)

I'm glad she won in the end and yeah Niji can't copyright strike her on Dragoons. So its a win win for her.

Was one of the options 'birdbrains'?

-IA.

(i would have voted for birdbrains)

Here, this time from the CEO of anycolor himself, in English.

Watching it right now. So far it's generic "we're sorry, it's a misunderstanding, we make it seem like we don't care {"We don't, but you weren't supposed to KNOW that" being the actual message I'm personally gleaning from his words}, some livers may choose to step away from social media at this time {read: we've suspended them and blocked access to their accounts}

Lots of empty words and promises, bringing up the idea they haven't been supporting their EN livers enough and just saying "don't worry, we're working on getting more managers and doing more events" rather than apologizing for or admitting they only have like six managers for forty people spread over at least two countries.

One more apology that SOUNDS like it says something but admits to nothing, and end.

So hd apologized to everybody BUT Selen - and apologized to his investors first, in a roundabout manner, by addressing that investor report first thing.

And only hours after Elira's video which us still on her channel here if you want to see it.

LAST EDITED ON Feb-13-24 AT 10:55 AM (EST)
 
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"The bar is set in the crust of the earth, and some people make digging their hobby."

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Before last night, it honestly felt like the whole Doki/Niji mess was fading into background noise again. The question of what had happened to Selen Tatsuki had been solved, the flash of anger over how she's been treated had cooled, and most people were resigned to following Doki's lead in moving on with her career. The only word to describe Anycolor's actions last night is "petty." That somebody or bodies in that company's management are so damned petty that they couldn't just let Doki walk away, they had to utterly crush her and force her out of the industry before they would be satisfied. And were willing to open the company to a multi-million dollar lawsuit in the process of doing so.

I think Gryphon's comments from last week are probably right, that before this is all over and done, NijiEN's management is going to be blamed for this whole mess and the office shut down with any remaining talents forced to either transfer under NijiJP's banner or leave.

Transferring to the JP banner would go Very Badly for them, I expect, because that leaves anycolor with no buffer zone between them and any legal things, it will increase their costs, etc. It's more likely they'll just burn the whole branch to ashes and tell all the talents to fuck themselves. And blame them for it, most likely. They already seem to have half of the branch on suspension since Selen's termination - probably because they were upset with management over the bullshit.

>Transferring to the JP banner would go Very Badly for them, I expect,
>because that leaves anycolor with no buffer zone between them and any
>legal things, it will increase their costs, etc. It's more likely
>they'll just burn the whole branch to ashes and tell all the talents
>to fuck themselves. And blame them for it, most likely. They already
>seem to have half of the branch on suspension since Selen's
>termination - probably because they were upset with management over
>the bullshit.

Saw an estimate over on Reddit earlier that NijiEN accounts for 20% of Nijisanji as a whole, though I don't know if that means in terms of revenues, views, membership, etc. If true, then the company as a whole may survive, but the jobs of the people on its board will not. So there's going to be very real pressure to salvage something from this, even if it means giving the remaining talent the choice of either moving to JP or GTFO.

>The only word to describe
>Anycolor's actions last night is "petty." That somebody or bodies in
>that company's management are so damned petty that they couldn't just
>let Doki walk away, they had to utterly crush her and force her out of
>the industry before they would be satisfied.

I'm not as surprised by this today as I was when it was unfolding yesterday, because I've had time to reflect and remember that, at heart, the entertainment industry has always been like this. "You'll never work in this town again" is a punch line precisely because it's been said in complete earnest to so many people over so many decades. :/

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Luckily, vtubing isn't something you can actually blackball from, because you can do it as an indie.

Also luckily, it seems like there's a lot of groups that give *zero* shits about that kind of thing. I doubt Phase Connect would give a rat's ass - they hired *Pipkin Pippa*, for gods sake, who's waaaaay more dangerous to herself and others than most of the terminated and graduated vtubers we've seen. VShojo also unlikely to care.

Hololive might care, because Cover's ultimately a proper corporation, and Japanese companies are...well, even if Cover Corp is *very much better*, well...

>Luckily, vtubing isn't something you can actually blackball from,
>because you can do it as an indie.

True, but that's not stopping them from trying, and causing a lot of angst in the process.

>Hololive might care, because Cover's ultimately a proper corporation,
>and Japanese companies are...well, even if Cover Corp is *very much
>better*, well...

Maybe it's just my Hololive brand loyalty talking, but while I hope I'm under few illusions that Cover is anything other than a business, I have a hard time picturing the executive suite being such outright bastards.

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>Maybe it's just my Hololive brand loyalty talking, but while I hope
>I'm under few illusions that Cover is anything other than a business,
>I have a hard time picturing the executive suite being such outright
>bastards.

Oh, I doubt they'd *perpetuate* it - they could have completely *nuked Mikeneko from orbit* if they actually wanted to, but they might have much less choice about listening to other groups doing it.

>Hololive might care, because Cover's ultimately a proper corporation,
>and Japanese companies are...well, even if Cover Corp is *very much
>better*, well...

It would depend on the individual talent, the circumstances of their departure, and Cover's risk tolerance at that given time. They've taken in ex-NijiJP before, who've gone on to do well in Hololive. (Ironically said member left NijiJP saying she'd been bullied.)

Further Doki response after the bizarre Niji stream. Warning for brief discussion against of her attempt(s).

So, legally, at this point, Nijissanji is turbofucked, because this is starting to reek of an actual campaign of harassment deliberately designed to cause her more emotional and mental distress. This isn't just petty assholery at this point, it's actual evil and Doki could make an excellent case that Nijisanji is trying to drive her to actually, shall we say, finish the job.

If they dare do one more thing designed to set her off, then it's going to court time. Honestly, it should be going to court time anyway.

These evil bastards. They know exactly what they're doing.

>So, legally, at this point, Nijissanji is turbofucked, because this is
>starting to reek of an actual campaign of harassment deliberately
>designed to cause her more emotional and mental distress. This isn't
>just petty assholery at this point, it's actual evil and Doki could
>make an excellent case that Nijisanji is trying to drive her to
>actually, shall we say, finish the job.

About the only thing that Anycolor has going in its favor right now is that Doki doesn't seem interested in pursuing this any further. She's mentally and emotionally drained, to the point that she canceled two big streams she'd planned for this week and only streamed Apex for a couple hours despite that being one of his favorite games. At this point, we're basically witnessing a domestic abuse victim piece their life back together, so it may never progress to a full-blown legal battle and may end with a quietly negotiated settlement that she addresses once and then never discusses again.

In the mean time, the smartest moves Anycolor could make would be 1) KEEP THEIR SPROCKIN' HEADS DOWN and 2) start figuring out just how deep the rot in NijiEN goes. Monday's fiasco seems a clear indication that the left hand and right hand are not on the same page or possibly even the same book about how to handle this whole matter. Why that is and whether or not it's possible to fix the damage without resorting to Exterminatus should be the biggest concern right now. But it's a safe bet that Elira, Ike, and Vox especially pretty much torched their careers as vtubers by agreeing to take record that "statement."

>Monday's fiasco seems a clear indication
>that the left hand and right hand are not on the same page or possibly
>even the same book about how to handle this whole matter.

I am an expert in the mangling of metaphors, and I am marveling at this particular manglephor. It's so excellently broken. I salute you.

>Why that is
>and whether or not it's possible to fix the damage without resorting
>to Exterminatus should be the biggest concern right now.

"In the fealty of the Dokibird and by the grace of the Dragoon Squad, I hereby sign the death warrant for this entire agency and consign a half-dozen careers to oblivion. May the Melody justice account in all balance. IronMouse protects."

>But it's a
>safe bet that Elira, Ike, and Vox especially pretty much torched their
>careers as vtubers by agreeing to take record that "statement."

Considering that I've heard that Vox has pulled stunts on his channel that are ridiculously stupid, like faking medical issues? I think his attitude may be "eh, maybe this lets me reboot as somebody else."

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>>But it's a
>>safe bet that Elira, Ike, and Vox especially pretty much torched their
>>careers as vtubers by agreeing to take record that "statement."
>
>Considering that I've heard that Vox has pulled stunts on his channel
>that are ridiculously stupid, like faking medical issues? I think his
>attitude may be "eh, maybe this lets me reboot as somebody else."
>

Could be, but Vox is Nijisanji's top earner by far and kind of revels in this stuff. Feels more likely that he's trying to defend his gravy train.

That's just Vox being Vox, he's always been a shithead.

I don't know if Ike knew what he was getting into, but I'm damn sure than Elira knew and wanted nothing to do with it but was forced to. She's already felt the fury of the internet when she talked about fried chicken that time (it makes sense in context), she's tasted internet anger.

>I don't know if Ike knew what he was getting into, but I'm damn sure
>than Elira knew and wanted nothing to do with it but was forced to.
>She's already felt the fury of the internet when she talked about
>fried chicken that time (it makes sense in context), she's tasted
>internet anger.

FWIW, I'm starting to come around to the rrat that Elira was entirely complicit and was secretly a NijiEN manager and had skin in the game, after seeing the discrepancy between who got the most solo merch between her vs Pomu and Selen.

I'm still in the camp of "anything 4chan says is arbitrary silliness until verified by an outside source". However, there has been an underlying tone of spite in this whole incident that feels more personal than the typical "make this person go away so our stock stops tanking" corpo approach. Maybe it's not Elira, but somebody definitely has an axe to grind with Doki.

"This is probably a stupid question, but . . ."

The only rrat I know is Bae, can you explain?

Also, there's obvious favoritism going on, look at how NijiEN treats Luxiem over literally everyone else.

"Rrat" is a 4chan/dramatuber term, it stands for "narrative", and refers to stuff that's some unholy chimera of rumor, leak, conspiracy theory, and fanfic.

In this specific case, the theories are gaining traction because the actions of NijiEN are beyond comprehension.

"This is probably a stupid question, but . . ."

>"Rrat" is a 4chan/dramatuber term, it stands for "narrative",
>and refers to stuff that's some unholy chimera of rumor, leak,
>conspiracy theory, and fanfic.

I try, I consciously try, not to be that old person who cringes theatrically at the verbal innovations of the young people these days, but please, for the love of all that you hold holy, never use that one again in my presence. :)

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Not to worry, I only offered the explanation because I myself saw the term and went "what in the hell are these people on about?"

Relatedly, I'm sure there's an interesting sociological study that could be done on social media and its effect on the velocity of linguistic evolution, but I'm sure not going to climb into the cesspits of the internet to do it.

"This is probably a stupid question, but . . ."

>>"Rrat" is a 4chan/dramatuber term, it stands for "narrative",
>>and refers to stuff that's some unholy chimera of rumor, leak,
>>conspiracy theory, and fanfic.
>
>I try, I consciously try, not to be that old person who cringes
>theatrically at the verbal innovations of the young people these days,
>but please, for the love of all that you hold holy, never use that one
>again in my presence. :)

I try to let it wash over me, but regrettably I still haven't reached that zen state where I don't have a slight eyebrow twitch whenever I hear "rizz" or "gyatt".

Sticking our your gyatt for Nerizzler

>Sticking our your gyatt for Nerizzler

Bijou is pretty great, but some days I do regret her.

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>Bijou is pretty great, but some days I do regret her.

So does Kaela.

"BeeJOE, get some help!"

"This is probably a stupid question, but . . ."

>I am an expert in the mangling of metaphors, and I am marveling at
>this particular manglephor. It's so excellently broken. I salute you.

*takes a bow*

>"In the fealty of the Dokibird and by the grace of the Dragoon Squad,
>I hereby sign the death warrant for this entire agency and consign a
>half-dozen careers to oblivion. May the Melody justice account in all
>balance. IronMouse protects."

LMAO

>Considering that I've heard that Vox has pulled stunts on his channel
>that are ridiculously stupid, like faking medical issues? I think his
>attitude may be "eh, maybe this lets me reboot as somebody else."

I've a strong suspicion that Vox saw an opportunity in this, that he was not so much grabbed as volunteered to take part in the "statement." The general consensus seems to be that Elira had a gun to her head, Vox is a gaslighting asshat, and Ike...was there.

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Really, the fact that a bunch of NijiEN livers have been no shows since the termination - except for collabs with Kyo and other companies- suggests a mass stealth suspension, probably because of protests.

Finana hasn't streamed in 11 days except for her after-rease for her song with Kyo, Elira hadn't streamed for ten days when she released that hostage video, Enna streamed 8 days ago for a 3d debut and collab with Kyo, Rosemi has been AWOL 11 Days, Petra Gurin 10 days, Reimu streamed 4 days ago for a three company collab - VShojo, NiniEN, and HoloID, Millie's last was 8 days ago...Scarle disappearing for several days and having to get word out via someone entirely unconnected to Nijisanji at first bodes ill...

Somebody's playing whack-a-mole at Niji.

(Edit to fix autocorrected names that I missed when posting)

>Really, the fact that a bunch of NijiEN livers have been no shows
>since the termination - except for collabs with Kyo and other
>companies- suggests a mass stealth suspension, probably because of
>protests.
>
>Finana hasn't streamed in 11 days except for her after-rease for her
>song with Kyo, Elizabeth hadn't streamed for ten days when she
>released that hostage video, Enna streamed 8 days ago for a 3d debut
>and collab with Kyo, Rosemi has been AWOL 11 Days, Petra Gurin 10
>days, Reimer streamed 4 days ago for a three company collab - VShojo,
>NiniEN, and HoloID, Millie's last was 8 days ago...Scarle disappearing
>for several days and having to get word out via someone entirely
>unconnected to Nijisanji at first bodes ill...

Gee, I wonder if that might be in some way connected with how every NijiEN member but (IIRC) two tweeted out links to the hostage video at close to the same time and have subsequently avoided taking sides in the whole fiasco.../s

>Somebody's playing whack-a-mole at Niji.

Silence will fall.

>"IronMouse protects."

I'm not sure which of the mental images this conjures is better: the God-Emperor of Mankind vtubing, or Mousey on the Golden Throne (for which, from what I've heard, she's probably the vtuber most likely to have a good use).

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From the previous Apex stream (not the most recent funny one with uto and dtto): Doki finds out she's only Gumi's wife number 4

LAST EDITED ON Feb-16-24 AT 01:01 PM (EST)
 
>From the previous Apex stream (not the most recent funny one with uto
>and tto): Doki finds out she's only Gumi's wife number 4

I've watched chunks of both of those streams live (including, coincidentally, that part of that one), and as always with FPS multiplayer, I haven't the slightest goddamn idea what's going on at any point, but I enjoy that she's having fun. :)

--G.
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If you have experience with one such battle royale game, you can start to infer all the others to an extent, is all I can say about BR type games.

If you'd like to try out one that's fairly casual, may I suggest Super Animal Royale? Players of that seem to be a lot less sweaty assholes. Also, cute animal designs and it's also much less system strenuous. Also also, it's far, far less monetized than any else I've seen.

So a poster over at r/Nijisanji who works in the comms industry (I assume corporate communications and not the "climbing a metal pole" variety) posted a long thread laying out his theory about why this trainwreck played out as it did. tl;dr: To paraphrase something I once read, "Anycolor jumped the gun and got shot." Basically, the language barrier turned what could have been a negotiated separation into a PR nightmare.

Assuming the theory's correct, then then only conclusion I can reach is that Anycolor are such cheap bastards that they're trying to run NijiEN on a shoestring budget. No local legal or comms staff so everything has to be run through the corporate office back in Tokyo, which delays decisions and leads to all kinds of issues because not all the staff are bilingual. Given the job listing we've seen recently, looking for a English/Japanese translator for the equiv of $8/hr, I'm willing to believe they're that cheap.

LAST EDITED ON Feb-17-24 AT 01:44 AM (EST)
 
They have a job listing up for a combination MANAGER and LEGAL position for the equivalent of 2-4 thousand dollars a month.

Meanwhile, Cover has a position open for *just* a legal position *specifically* for compliance, for twice that.

I guess we know how he can afford that yacht - not paying anyone.

Also, that's a terrifyingly plausible scenario that person laid out.

>I guess we know how he can afford that yacht - not paying anyone.

Somehow I'm not surprised, given the spectacular screw-ups, plural.
>
>Also, that's a terrifyingly plausible scenario that person laid out.

Absolutely. That was an absolutely fascinating read and I think it's very likely, with one caveat:

I think it's possible Doki sent her explanation to Nijisanji, the one she said she intended to be private, thinking (and possibly telling Niji) at the time that it -would- be her public statement. If that's so, her lawyer corrected the situation before release. In this scenario, Niji may not have mistranslated Doki's intent, but they still made grave errors in assuming they knew exactly what she was going to say.

That's all complete speculation, of course.

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Orchestrate our fall from grace
Poorest players on the stage
Our defiance drives us straight to the edge

At this point I'm hoping things will die down, but I'm expecting they'll get worse.

"This is probably a stupid question, but . . ."

"Things will not calm down. They will, in fact, calm up."

God, I just watched that episode the other day.

Just based upon r/VirtualYoutubers and r/Nijisanji, it appears that things are slowly dying down with most posts about the whole mess limited to either celebrating Doki's post-graduation success or just running salt in Anycolor's wounds. Assuming there are no further volleys from Anycolor's direction, the final verdict seems to be their lawyers sucks, their management suck, the livers who took their side suck, and Doki is the only party in all this that comes out looking sympathetic.

So according to Japanese law, just from what we know for sure, Selen (and almost every other vtuber) is definitely an employee and subject to worker protections. And that suggests that Nijisanji broke Japanese law. Aaaaand in an interesting confluence of laws, they also DEFINITELY broke BC privacy laws by announcing her termination without her consent, because changes in employment status is considered personal information.

If Doki wanted to, she’d own that company with all this bullshit they’ve pulled.

>If Doki wanted to, she’d own that company with all this bullshit
>they’ve pulled.

The idea puts me in mind of the first minute or so of this, in terms of the desirability of the dominion thus received. You can decide for yourself who fills the role of Cyclonus in this scenario. :)

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Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam.

Oh, she'd absolutely never want to, but god, she could *annihilate* that company with lawsuits if they don't watch themselves at this point.

Seriously, that privacy suit alone. That's why you don't fire somebody on social media. Quite aside from it being a dick move, it stands a good chance of being illegal.

And in cases where one place has a law against something, and the other doesn't, you go by the one where it *is* illegal, as I understand it.

I don't think she'd want to pursue it, just because they'd absolutely drag her through the mud if she did so, but it's definitely something to keep in the back pocket if they need another dose of "Find Out" down the road.

"This is probably a stupid question, but . . ."

I do like the fact that she's keeping quiet and playing with old friends and new friends. Her lawyer probably told her to keep quiet which she's doing so.

New schedule is up for the week

Beyond words how happy that Tuesday collab makes me

Wait....is that the spiritual return of TSB?

>Wait....is that the spiritual return of TSB?

That is Kirkland brand TSB.

(But seriously though, is that them?)

>(But seriously though, is that them?)

They are legally distinct not-TSB.

It's simply an Australian and a Korean-American who met rpr in Japan and went drinking and karaoke with him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBIbJ298bbY

Is it too late to say this is getting out of hand?

-IA.

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I said to someone on said list just because they said they were stepping back from making nijisanji clips(!), that if people block and hate you for stepping away from objectively bad/illegal things, then you're doing something right.

I know that list is made by Niji fans, not anybody actually associated with the company (at least I hope not), but can we just take a moment to appreciate how bark-at-the-moon crazy they are?

Not-unrelated.

"This is probably a stupid question, but . . ."