So I figured I'd do a post about songs that the various vtubers I watch have done that I personally particularly enjoy, feel free to add your own~

Hololive as a whole:
Hololive 2023 Shuffle Medley - members swapping signature songs and outfits
Hololive 2024 Shuffle Medley
Seishun Archive
Adventure Holic (I don't know how to make a heart symbol)

The defacto anthem for the entire company:
Shiny Smily Story (2022 version, this one)

Units, waves, branches, etc;
Holotori Dance a collab between the five bird(and bird-adjacent) members of Hololive across all three branches~
Mind Craft a project Bae financed, featuringg all 15 current members of the EN branch
ReUnion Hololive English MYTH full group song
NonFiction Myth's anthem
Journey of a Thousand Years

Inugami Korone:
Korone doesn't do a lot of singing, but what songs she does are either somewhat silly and high energy or covers of video game music. A true gamer doggo~
Original:
Wonky Monkey
Doggy God's Street
Kawaiko Check!
Wonderful World of Korone
Covers:
Pollyanna (Earthbound/Mother series)
Fire Emblem theme/commercial song(With special guests Kanata and Okayu)
Bomber King (With assistance of her GAMERS genmates~)
Airman ga Taosenai (I can't beat Airman) from a HoloFes concert, video on Bilibili
Collabs:
Not sure what this is called, but it's Okayu and Korone
Bite! Kamu! Bite! - with Hakos Baelz

Tsunomaki Watame:
Watame does a LOT of singing, and a lot of her stuff has music videos, so I'll just link her full Original Music playlist here and point out some favorites of mine
Now On Step
What An Amazing Swing
My Song

Hakos Baelz:
Bae, as pretty much everybody calls her (Or 'Hakotaro') doesn't do a long of songs, particularly solo, but here's her signature one
Play Dice

Houshou Marine:
Marine is...unbelievably horny, and many of her songs reflect this, such as
I'm your Treasure Box
Shinkiro (With Gawr Gura)
'Beautiful Innocent Pirates' apparently
But also, she's a boomer nerd who has done
Bloody Stream
and her previous signature song
Ahoy!

Mori Calliope
The Rapping Reaper, Calli mainly does rap, and is extremely prolific - she's even signed with Universal Music Group Japan!
Her music playlist just because there's SO MUCH, but here's some choice selections from me
'Q' a collab with Gura, thought to be a kind of spiritual prequel to their cover of
King originally a vocaloid(?) song, sung by what seems like half of all vtubers, Calli and Gura put their own spin on it
Nezumi Scheme
Internet Yamero (English version)

Gawr Gura
Gura's not the most prolific singer, but is an exceptionally good one still. Many of her songs are in her karaoke streams (Really, almost everyone does Karaoke streams, but Gura has some special songs, such as
Sabaton's 'Resist and Bite' and
The Last Stand

There's a bunch more, of course, and even a bunch of non-Hololives I do follow for music, but I've had this post open for like eight hours now, and I never meant for this to get this extensive. So come on down with your own~

>Adventure Holic (I don't
>know how to make a heart symbol)

There are a few different ways to get a heart-shaped HTML character, but the easiest is to use the one that represents the playing card suit, which has a named character reference, ♥ - ♥

The W3C maintains a chart of the named character references supported in HTML 5, which I don't find as nice to use as the page that used to be at that link, but is still the most complete reference out there, as far as I know.

>The defacto anthem for the entire company:
>Shiny Smily Story (2022
>version, this one)

This one has become so ubiquitous at this point that it has a spiritual reprise in the signature song from last year's Hololive English live concert, "Connect the World". Fair warning: This is probably the single most straight-up idol-y thing HoloEN has ever done to date. :)

>Journey of a Thousand Years

I feel like I talked about this in one of the other threads, but while we're here: this song has an unusual amount of backstory. It was written to commemorate the fact that, since they debuted in the very teeth of the lockdown era, it took the five members of Myth something like 30 months to all find their way to the same real-world room at the same time. In a sense, "Journey" is Part Two of a series, where Part One was not a song, but the emotional finale of their first-anniversary collab, which was held on a VRChat server Ame went and built by herself so they could have some sort of a dang 3D debut.

>What An Amazing Swing

sheep sheep yeah, sheep yeah, sheep yo

>Hakos Baelz:
>Bae, as pretty much everybody calls her (Or 'Hakotaro') doesn't do a
>long of songs, particularly solo, but here's her signature one
>Play Dice

See also: "Psycho", the first track off the EP she released last year, Pandæmonium. She has a powerful voice for such a tiny rat.

>Shinkiro (With Gawr Gura)

I respect Marine for producing a video that takes the bothersome process of shipping the participants out of the viewers' hands and just goes ahead and does it for them. :)

>But also, she's a boomer nerd who has done

OK, sidebar. This little bit of linguistic drift where people use "boomer" to just mean anyone old enough to be mocked for outdated viewpoints really scratches my record. Marine may well be somewhat older than your average anime-girl vtuber, but I sincerely doubt she was born between 1946 and 1964. :)

>'Q' a collab with Gura,

Fun fact: the producer of the "Q" MV is the developer behind Holocure. That bit in the first stage where the Dead Beats and Chumbuds are suddenly sporting gang colors and spawning in unfeasible numbers is a direct callback. :)

>thought to be a kind of spiritual prequel to their cover of
>King originally a
>vocaloid(?) song, sung by what seems like half of all vtubers, Calli
>and Gura put their own spin on it

Kanaria's original version of "King" was performed by GUMI, and yeah, it does seem like pretty much everyone in hololive had a go at it. The Bone Bros version is my favorite, though.

"Yeaah, fist bump." "Yeah dude, that was sick."

>Gawr Gura
>Gura's not the most prolific singer, but is an exceptionally good one
>still.

Again, pretty sure I've mentioned her signature original, "Reflect", before, but I really like it so I'll plug it again.

Oh, and here she is covering one of the opening themes from Psycho-Pass. Shoegazer shark, it's a thing.

>Many of her songs are in her karaoke streams (Really, almost
>everyone does Karaoke streams

Fuwamoco make them a regular part of their schedule, even, making it a point to do at least one a month.

It should be noted that hololive karaoke is kind of a weird thing. Because of something to do with the quirks of Japanese copyright law and the way Cover Corp. responds thereto, holomems are only allowed to perform most Western songs in "unarchived" streams--that is, streams that don't leave a VOD behind; miss them when they're live and you, well, missed them. Unless you catch the occasional rebroadcast or there was a clipper handy, anyway. :)

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RE: Marine and her boomerness, you are right, of course. :) it’s just become such a joke to exaggerate how old Marine is (have you seen her 80s themed concert?? Pseudo-VHS filter, fairly deadpan color commentary courtesy of Fubuki and Mio, Entire thing done in 4:3! It’s a work of art, and she has to have been around for at least part of it!) much like Bae and Biboo being all of twelve years old. :)

As for the karaoke, I suspect Cover just bought a load of permissions and karaoke libraries, but since they’re Japanese libraries, the selection of western songs is *somewhat limited*. It’s the only explanation I have for the sheer breadth of permissions they have just sitting there, including Kamen Rider, Super Sentai, and some relatively obscure (and bespoke) anime themes and insert songs.

This is Gen-X erasure and I will not stand for am sadly used to it.
-_-

>This is Gen-X erasure and I will not stand for am sadly used to
>it.
>-_-

As a middle-aged Millennial who's still one of the "kids" who are contributing to the downfall of Western civilization, I'll happily trade with you.

>As a middle-aged Millennial who's still one of the "kids" who are
>contributing to the downfall of Western civilization, I'll happily
>trade with you.

Play the innocent all you want, you know damn well you guys ruined avocados and home ownership.

--G.
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Nerissa Ravencroft
I love Nerissa and I love Madoka Magica, so Magia was a perfect treat.
Love Me, Love Me, Love Me is really nice too.

Koseki Bijou
I will not be linking Biboo's signature piece of brainrot here, but I have to respect her ability to make memes into music. Getting the composer of "Bury the Light" to bless her parody was pretty cool.

Advent General
Megitsune feels really fitting for Advent in general, and they knocked the cover out of the park.

Hololive General
While it isn't something they did intentionally, but rather the work of a very dedicated clipper, this chorus version of Welcome to the Black Parade is pretty awesome.

"This is probably a stupid question, but . . ."

Bae has come a long way since not knowing what My Chemical Romance even was:3

On the topic of these big Mashups though, allow me to link my favorite channel for these, Tyler Not Taylor. I especially love his work with King.

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The terror continues:

Nanashi Mumei
Mumei is often unhinged, and her music reflects that somewhat, like
Dan Dan Don Don and
This song about ant observation.
Far less distressing though is her first song, A New Start and her most recent solo, Mumei - "Nameless" (Yep, her name, Nanashi Mumei literally means "Nothing nameless")

Tsukumo Sana
Sana wasn't with us long, but before she left (IMMEDIATELY before, it was one of her last things on stream) she blessed us with her original song Astrogirl

>Mumei is often unhinged

The Duality of Mumei

(The face on the right is from a painting she made, which... took a lot of people aback at the time, since she hadn't really been around long enough yet for most to grasp fully the Tao of Towl. :)

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Funnily enough, I think that was a drawing she did of *Suisei*. God, Mumei's a great artist but she does....*things* instead. :3 the other one I remember was a very Watership Down Pekora...oh gosh, and she also created *Spiderchama*.

a clip

>Funnily enough, I think that was a drawing she did of *Suisei*. God,
>Mumei's a great artist but she does....*things* instead. :3 the other
>one I remember was a very Watership Down Pekora...oh gosh, and she
>also created *Spiderchama*.

And, of course, her notorious sketches of the Abyssgard twins with actual dog faces.

--G.
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Oh no. *OH no*. I forgot about this. All of these, but primarily ET Sana and the Kronii Patch Doll.

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I listed the anthem for the company as a whole above, have the other one, which has become a tradition for every branch to do at least once, Ochame Kinou.

And Ochame Kinou.

....and Ochame Kinou. :3

(Giving Sana the line about The earth exploding is just chefs kiss~)

It would've taken me a while to get to it, but I would've brought up "Ochame Kinou" if you hadn't.

For bonus points, "Ochame Kinou" was originally written for a certain UTAUloid, which makes me want to suggest checking outline of the next (or some subsequent) Vocaloid Variations installment to see if there's a good place for some cameos.

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Well, since this is General VTubery, we should start talking about other companies and indies.

First up is the other heavyweight in the English-speaking room: Nijisanji, run by Anycolor. hololive and Nijisanji together dominate the corporate landscape. Like hololive, Nijisanji has multiple branches for its different language speaking efforts.

NijiJP is by most accounts reasonably run, with occasional baffling events (Gundou Mirei getting graduated because of baseball is outrageous). One of their more recent debuts, Hyakumantenbara Salome, is the current record holder for fastest to 1 million Youtube subs. (Her gimmick is a commoner roleplaying/aspiring to be a rich ojou)

NijiEN is, charitably speaking, shockingly incompetent. I'm not overly TOO invested in them and I don't want to make this into holo vs Niji but by most accounts they seem to just not be getting any support from their management for anything other than basic streaming (and even then) and this has led to a recent and continuing spate of graduations. They also have certain other questionable practices for how they manage their talents.

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Pomu Rainpuff was part of NijiEN's first gen LazuLight and just graduated. She was honestly incredible and seemed to live her life trying to be the very best anime girl she could be. Many people are confident we'll soon see her show up elsewhere. Until then...
Her final MV Fairy of AKIBerse!
3d Version of Diamond City Lights with the rest of LazuLight, including the fan chant.

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Selen Tatsuki is part of NijiEN's second gen OBSYDIA. If you need to know two things about her, one is that she is incredible at FPSs (at one point she was top 500 in Apex Legends), and two is that her laughter cures cancer. (She is also very old friends with holoEN's Nanashi Mumei--their relationship predates their being their current characters.)

She is also probably currently stealth suspended after yet another Niji management screw up and was arguably leading the graduation pool prior to Pomu's announcement.

She is also frustrated that her latest cover song was released and then was forced to be privated for still unknown reasons and has encouraged people to listen to it elsewhere, so here:
Last Cup of Coffee

Oo, going to be talking about the Island of Misfit Toys next? :)

(btw, feel free to change the subject line for subthreads if you want. non-admin users can do that, right? I can't double-check without creating a burner account...)

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Actually, I WAS going to mention this company next, and I figure if anybody is the island of misfit toys, it's gonna be

Phase Connect, the Vtuber company masquerading as a coffee company. Or is it the other way around? Headed by a fish, who gets no respect from his employees, like an Anti-Yagoo. Though he gives as good as he gets sometimes~

Pipkin Pippa
Pippa is unhinged in a very different way than Mumei is, Pippa is, or at least makes does a very convincing act of being, a mildly paranoid conspiracy nut. But for the purposes of this, she did a song, which she has privated solely because she's embarrassed by it Pippa the Ripper.

and then there's

Tenma Maemi
Tenma's the canadian japanese? fox, renowned for her rages and rather extreme accent, she's let us know in no uncertain terms that she's Not our friend, buddy. But also this rendition of Envy Baby.

There's many others, including a newly debuted japanese branch, but the only ones I actually know are Pippa and Tenma.

>NijiJP is by most accounts reasonably run, with occasional baffling
>events (Gundou Mirei getting graduated because of baseball is
>outrageous).

Wait, what?

>NijiEN is, charitably speaking, shockingly incompetent.

I'm an extreme casual for anything beyond HoloEN (OK, and a couple of the IDs) at this point, but I've managed to get that impression even so, which suggests things about how monumental it must be if I can see it from orbit.

>I'm not overly
>TOO invested in them and I don't want to make this into holo vs Niji

I mean, to be fair, Cover does some pretty dumb shit on the regular too, it just doesn't seem to leave quite as much chaos in its wake most of the time.

>Pomu Rainpuff was part of NijiEN's first gen LazuLight and just
>graduated. She was honestly incredible and seemed to live her life
>trying to be the very best anime girl she could be.

Kiara talked about Pomu a little in the stream right before she went on vacation. I guess they're pals, because she seemed pretty upset.

>([Selen] is also very old friends with holoEN's
>Nanashi Mumei--their relationship predates their being their current characters.)

This has the same sort of vibes as a couple of acquaintances I had in high school who thought they were going to the same college, except one ended up applying to Boston College and the other to Boston University. (I'm not sure how they managed to get into those schools possessing the capacity for that kind of screwup, but... :)

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>>NijiJP is by most accounts reasonably run, with occasional baffling
>>events (Gundou Mirei getting graduated because of baseball is
>>outrageous).
>
>Wait, what?

I was being a bit pithy. To unpack that: Mirei doesn't Get baseball and made a joke/observation in poor taste on Twitter (asking why pitchers don't just hit batters basically) and it went viral. Unfortunately, we know that baseball is Serious Business in Japan. Further, Niji has baseball related sponsorships and one of their biggest annual events is baseball related. Mirei also occasionally has gotten into trouble in the past for speaking her mind. Add all that up and that was basically the final straw.

She's back as an indie, of course.

This is always my favorite clip of hers, she had some wild stories (time linked though the entire thing is fine, and turn on CC).

>>Pomu Rainpuff was part of NijiEN's first gen LazuLight and just
>>graduated. She was honestly incredible and seemed to live her life
>>trying to be the very best anime girl she could be.
>
>Kiara talked about Pomu a little in the stream right before she went
>on vacation. I guess they're pals, because she seemed pretty upset.

Yep, Pomutori was a sweet duo. While they never met while she was there, Pomu also had a stint of trying to Make It in Japan, so they have a bit of common background to vibe together with.

>I was being a bit pithy. To unpack that: Mirei doesn't Get baseball
>and made a joke/observation in poor taste on Twitter (asking why
>pitchers don't just hit batters basically)

To be fair, this is a question many pitchers ask themselves at some point in their careers.

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I've seen a lot of chatter from VTuber fans in a "we're just joking . . . unless?" fashion about getting Hololive to "rescue" Selen and Pomu somehow. I think it's pretty implausible, but I'd also bet Mumei and Kiara have thought long and hard about who to talk with to try and make it happen.

Grand Theft Anime Girls (probably not) Coming to a Theater Near You in 2024!

"This is probably a stupid question, but . . ."

The OG Tempus boys also got along with her quite well. Do not wallow, TSB is here to swallow. Axel fought for her to be able to take place in one of her dream matches in VSaikyo. (VSaikyo is a famous Vtuber Apex tournament.)

If hololive and Nijisanji are the Big Two in the English speaking space, then Vshojo is almost certainly #3. In fact, they're the biggest on Twitch and tend to show up more in the English speaking award shows because those are mostly powered by Twitch streamers while holo and Niji are Youtube focused and also their top management is foreign and tends not to pay attention to English award shows in the right way.

Where holo and Niji are legit corporations with goals and themes, Vshojo can instead to be more of a management agency acting as a talent support structure and is typically said to be run by the talents themselves. In recent months, it's also become more and more a home to talents that have left the more structured corporations for somewhere where they're freer to do what they want and have more support to do it. They had 2 ex-hololive members (down to 1 with a recent parting), 2 ex-Nijisanji members, and a certain ex-VOMS member. To be a bit glib, Watch This Space for debuts in the next few months.

Vshojo's main star is Ironmouse. She's a Puerto Rican classically trained singer who is unfortunately mostly bedridden due to CVID and turned to streaming to basically have something to do with her life and to try and earn money to pay for her treatments. If you can listen to her talk about her health struggles and not feel sad, you might not have a heart. The upside is that her success in streaming has legitimately slowly improved her quality of life and also let her afford more and better services. While there's no cure, things are maybe looking up. She's a frequent collaborator with Connor aka CDawgVA and their interactions are quite sweet. He really helped push IRL streaming with a camera so as to basically be able to take her places that there's a reasonable chance she'll never be able to get to go because of her condition.

I mentioned before that she's a classically trained singer and she really is quite good.
Ave Maria
When I Look At You
King

Vshojo's biggest JP driver is kson. She was previously a very well regarded indie streamer who took a break for a couple years due to a certain job. When she decided to part ways with that company, she came back as an indie for awhile, then eventually decided to sign with Vshojo. kson is an American ex-pat from Georgia and still speaks English fluently. She's basically been living her dream streaming with cute girls and passing through the auditions and contest phase to get a cameo role in the latest Yakuza game, which is her favorite series ever.

She doesn't sing too much (in all honesty her voice has been described as someone strangling Mickey Mouse), but she has an iconic song in her past life and she can make a decent effort these days
YOUR DREAMS NEVER END

Vshojo's newest member is Matara Kan. She's worked for another company before and it shows. While she's younger than most of us because we're all old and decrepit here, she's still older than a lot of other vtubers and has a bit of a 'Mom' reputation. (There's a pun there in her name. Matara Kan -> Ma Tarakan. Tarakan is cockroach in Russian and she's a roach girl Vtuber.)

Zombies is the song cover she released on her debut

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Below Vshojo are a handful of other notable EN agencies (and a bunch of black orgs that fold all the time). If you've heard of them, they tend to have only one or two particularly notable members.

Idol Corp's Rin Penrose is the local British Prince (not a Princess). She's quite hilarious and plays the Youtube Shorts game really well and is a notorious Blahaj fanatic.

She doesn't sing that much but does have some output:
Kimochi mo Yume mo Issho da ne!

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Phase Connect's Pippa Pipkin is notorious. I'm obligated to mention her because of her numbers but I don't particularly want to talk about her, so all I will say is that she's an active 4channer and she is a walking health hazard.

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The last really notable EN agency is Production Kawaii but I'm not particularly familiar with any of their members. :)

>Ironmouse. She's a Puerto Rican classically trained singer who is unfortunately >mostly bedridden due to CVID

That is not, as I'm sure you're thinking, dear reader, a typo of COVID, this is an entirely different thing and has affected her for a good portion of her life. She requires, or at least has in the past required, a lot of plasma transfusions, and is a leading...proponent? I forget the right word - of plasma donation, and fundraising. Some know VShojo because of Projekt Melody, who was a founder, I THINK along with Zentraya, the dragon/cyborg who speaks via text-to-speech. They also have a mooseCaribou! They made a Christmas song together.

>Phase Connect's Pippa Pipkin is notorious. I'm obligated to mention
>her because of her numbers but I don't particularly want to talk about
>her, so all I will say is that she's an active 4channer and she is
>a walking health hazard.

I talked a little about Phase Connect above, didn't see this until after~

>Zentraya, the dragon/cyborg who speaks via text-to-speech.

Zen is hilarious, especially when she collabs with people whose viewers don't necessarily know that's part of her shtick (like, say, Nerissa). Chat spends half the time like "I just got here. Why does that stranger from another agency talk like a Twitch donation? Is she an AI?"

--G.
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I think my personal favorite thing about Zen is how she and her chat are one giant comedy routine. It's true of most chats, to be sure, but Zen's chat is simultaneously absolutely savage and love her with all their hearts. One breath is just verbally annihilating her and the next is some wholesome message about how much she's improved their lives. Sometimes in the same message! It's an aspect of stream chat that I love, and it's...not *missing* from the corpo chats, but it's very much toned down and will often lean one way or the other rather than being that perfect mix like Zen's.

>Vshojo's main star is Ironmouse. She's a Puerto Rican classically
>trained singer who is unfortunately mostly bedridden due to CVID and
>turned to streaming to basically have something to do with her life
>and to try and earn money to pay for her treatments.

Ironmouse has become famous enough that although VShojo is the Chrysler to Hololive and Nijisanji's Ford & GM, if you're at all familiar with vtubing then you know who Ironmouse is or at least have heard of her. That said, the first time I actually saw her in action was her collab with Magni on a game of Phasmophobia which went about as expected if you've ever seen Magni play a horror game.

>Vshojo's biggest JP driver is kson. She was previously a very well
>regarded indie streamer who took a break for a couple years due to a
>certain job. When she decided to part ways with that company, she came
>back as an indie for awhile, then eventually decided to sign with
>Vshojo. kson is an American ex-pat from Georgia and still speaks
>English fluently. She's basically been living her dream streaming with
>cute girls and passing through the auditions and contest phase to get
>a cameo role in the latest Yakuza game, which is her favorite series
>ever.

Yeah, Kaichou looks pretty damn good in her cameo, though sadly it's only as a bartender and not as boss of her own clan. Perhaps one day...

>Idol Corp's Rin Penrose is the local British Prince (not a Princess).
>She's quite hilarious and plays the
>Youtube Shorts game really
>well and is a notorious Blahaj fanatic.

According to the YT algorithm, it seems the most popular Rin clips are of her mother Gin showing up with glass of said libation in hand, doing everything in her power to destroy her daughter's image. Most of the HoloMoms who have appeared were usually of the "Let me tell you about my daughter's embarrassing past" variety of emotional damage, but Gin seems to take actual enjoyment out of roasting Rin alive any chance that she can get.

On a side note, it's actually rather nice to see that whatever rule (official or otherwise) that prevented collabs between vtubers of different companies has been eased if not outright abolished. I still remember back in the days of yore (Was 2020 really 4 years ago?) when questions in chat about collabing with non-Hololive talents would be met with a polite "I'd love to do it, BUT..."

>Ironmouse has become famous enough that although VShojo is the
>Chrysler to Hololive and Nijisanji's Ford & GM

As a lifelong devotee of GM's brands who has owned and driven a great many of their products in my 35 years as a licensed driver, I would just like to say that this tacit suggestion that the corporation's management is inexplicable, incompetent, and often self-destructively petty and ill-tempered is... fair.

>Yeah, Kaichou looks pretty damn good in her cameo, though
>sadly it's only as a bartender and not as boss of her own clan.

That's what she wants you to think.

(Was 2020 really 4 years ago?)

No; today is March 1426, 2020.

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>As a lifelong devotee of GM's brands who has owned and driven a great
>many of their products in my 35 years as a licensed driver, I would
>just like to say that this tacit suggestion that the corporation's
>management is inexplicable, incompetent, and often self-destructively
>petty and ill-tempered is... fair.

As a Ford man for most my 20+ years on the road, I too know the joys of a company that has a large international fanbase, but is prone to poorly-explained decisions and business planning that ultimately has to be changed with little notice to try to salvage projects that stalled out. Also, all three Fords I've owned seemed to be infested with gremlins that liked to pick my pockets while quietly cackling.

>That's what she wants you to think.

So in the hunt for info on the other story of the day, I ran across a clip (in both JP & EN) of Kson's intro. And I have to agree with most of the top commenters: It's Kson, not a cameo. The name, the looks, the voice, the gushing over Kiryu, and even her sub-mission name "Welcome to Hawaii, MFers!" She's truly livin' the dream.

Wonder if this trend might continue and we'll see a short, white-haired gremlin in a future installment of the Resident Evil franchise...

>No; today is March 1426, 2020.

So you're saying 2020 never ended? With the way my life's gone in the last 4 years, I'm totally willing to believe that.

>On a side note, it's actually rather nice to see that whatever rule
>(official or otherwise) that prevented collabs between vtubers of
>different companies has been eased if not outright abolished. I still
>remember back in the days of yore (Was 2020 really 4
>years ago?) when questions in chat about collabing with
>non-Hololive talents would be met with a polite "I'd love to do it,
>BUT..."

Rin started streaming on Twitch also and Hakka promptly took the opportunity to do a little trolling on her scuffed intro stream.

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>Rin started streaming on Twitch also and Hakka promptly took the
>opportunity to do a little trolling on her scuffed intro stream.

The meme "Whoever's praying on my downfall: Please stop, you won" springs to mind.

>Where holo and Niji are legit corporations with goals and themes,
>Vshojo can instead to be more of a management agency acting as a
>talent support structure and is typically said to be run by the
>talents themselves. In recent months, it's also become more and more a
>home to talents that have left the more structured corporations for
>somewhere where they're freer to do what they want and have more
>support to do it.

So it's taken all this time for me to remember what this reminds me of: United Artists. The original United Artists, when it was an actual studio and not just a brand name owned by MGM. D.W. Griffith, Douglas Fairbanks, Charlie Chaplin, and Mary Pickford getting tired of the iron-fisted Hollywood studio system and establishing their own company as a refuge for actors who, like them, were sick of getting screwed by Jack Warner, Louis Mayer, et al. (Not surprisingly, all of them were at one point or another--and, it must be said, not always without cause--accused of being communists.)

>Vshojo's newest member is Matara Kan. She's worked for another company
>before and it shows. While she's younger than most of us because we're
>all old and decrepit here, she's still older than a lot of other
>vtubers and has a bit of a 'Mom' reputation.

I've only encountered her once, but she was doing one of the most memorable things I've ever seen someone do on a livestream, so it was quite a first impression. Doubly so because it wasn't even her stream. I'm trying to think if I can even explain it in less than, like, a thousand words.

OK, so over on Twitch they have this thing called a "hype train". Basically, if the system notices that people are subscribing (which is the paid follower level on Twitch, not just a button click like on YouTube), buying gift subs for other users, and/or sending paid donations during a stream, it'll throw a banner on top of the chat with a timer and a progress bar, and if the progress bar fills up before the timer runs out, it iterates a counter and resets. Repeat until the timer expires without the progress bar being full.

So a little while ago, some of the VShojo girls were getting together to play Minecraft, and for some reason Matara and Melody had a while to wait before the rest were available. So they were just sort of shooting the shit waiting for the game to start, Matara noticed a hype train starting on Melody's stream... and randomly appointed herself the conductor. She spent more than an hour in carny barker mode, cajoling people into keeping the train going, rounding up raids from other channels, throwing down hundreds of gift subs herself, and gleefully bullying Melody, who was mortified and kept pleading with people to stop.

When the train did finally end, it was level 42 or 43, I forget now, and Melody's subscriber total had something like doubled. People were doing the math in chat and estimating the gross in the low tens of thousands of dollars. The rest of the players had all turned up in the interim and just sort of sat in voice chat being bemused (IIRC Zentreya said something along the lines of, "What the fuck have I walked into?"), waiting for the madness of the crowd to abate so they could maybe play some Minecraft. It was the single weirdest thing I have yet seen happen in a livestream.

(And I randomly caught one of the fusillade of gift subs, which is how I became a Projekt Melody subscriber for the month of January. :)

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>I've only encountered her once, but she was doing one of the most
>memorable things I've ever seen someone do on a livestream, so it was
>quite a first impression. Doubly so because it wasn't even her
>stream. I'm trying to think if I can even explain it in less than,
>like, a thousand words.
>
>OK, so over on Twitch they have this thing called a "hype train".
>Basically, if the system notices that people are subscribing (which is
>the paid follower level on Twitch, not just a button click like on
>YouTube), buying gift subs for other users, and/or sending paid
>donations during a stream, it'll throw a banner on top of the chat
>with a timer and a progress bar, and if the progress bar fills up
>before the timer runs out, it iterates a counter and resets. Repeat
>until the timer expires without the progress bar being full.
>
>So a little while ago, some of the VShojo girls were getting together
>to play Minecraft, and for some reason Matara and Melody had a
>while to wait before the rest were available. So they were just sort
>of shooting the shit waiting for the game to start, Matara noticed a
>hype train starting on Melody's stream... and randomly appointed
>herself the conductor. She spent more than an hour in carny barker
>mode, cajoling people into keeping the train going, rounding up raids
>from other channels, throwing down hundreds of gift subs
>herself, and gleefully bullying Melody, who was mortified and
>kept pleading with people to stop.
>
>When the train did finally end, it was level 42 or 43, I forget now,
>and Melody's subscriber total had something like doubled. People were
>doing the math in chat and estimating the gross in the low tens of
>thousands of dollars. The rest of the players had all turned up in
>the interim and just sort of sat in voice chat being bemused (IIRC
>Zentreya said something along the lines of, "What the fuck have I
>walked into?"), waiting for the madness of the crowd to abate so
>they could maybe play some Minecraft. It was the single
>weirdest thing I have yet seen happen in a livestream.
>
>(And I randomly caught one of the fusillade of gift subs, which is how
>I became a Projekt Melody subscriber for the month of January. :)

Sadly, Melody and Matara don't post their VODs to YT like Ironmouse does, so if you want the raw footage you'll have to check it out in the video sections on their Twitch channels (Matara & Melody), but someone did catch a clip of Melody beginning to crumble into a panicky mess when the Hype Train barrelled into the station.

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Matara does though. ...Not in a particularly *timely* manner, but

>someone did catch a clip of Melody
>beginning to crumble into a panicky mess when the Hype Train barrelled
>into the station.

Heh, yeah, that was right at the beginning. By the time it was finished, her sub count (which you can see over her head) was around 9,000.

I forgot that in addition to trolling Melly about the hype timer (she kept saying things to the effect of "don't worry, you only have to stand it for another three minutes," knowing that it would reset each time), Matara also doggedly insisted that she stop wittering and keep thanking people. (Only one of those things got done. :)

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Being as it's Melody, it's a good thing she didn't have certain pieces of stream-enabled equipment running. ....presumably.

Though someone the noises she's making in that stream makes me wonder...if that's just her being flustered though, no wonder her...yoga classes...are doing so well.

>Being as it's Melody, it's a good thing she didn't have certain pieces
>of stream-enabled equipment running. ....presumably.

I'm pretty sure that wasn't the case in this instance, but there have been occasions when she's switched from one stream straight to another and been too rushed and scatterbrained to turn everything off along the way. There's nothing for that stuff to react to on Twitch, though, so it just sort of... runs as a background process, IYKWIM.

>Though someone the noises she's making in that stream makes me
>wonder...if that's just her being flustered though, no wonder
>her...yoga classes...are doing so well.

It takes talent to make that kind of thing work in Live2D, I'm just sayin'.

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Well, she mostly uses her 3D model for *those*, I believe. I was mainly talking about the ah, sounds she was making.

(Also, you'd be surprised what kind of thing is twitch-enabled. The list *starts* at shock collars.)

>Well, she mostly uses her 3D model for *those*, I believe.

It depends. Rigging up the mocap gear for a 3D stream takes work, y'know. Sometimes a performer simply cannot be arsed, as it were.

>(Also, you'd be surprised what kind of thing is twitch-enabled. The
>list *starts* at shock collars.)

Heh. Well, the UI is absent from her Twitch stream layout, at least.

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LAST EDITED ON Feb-03-24 AT 06:16 PM (EST)
 
In addition to Ironmouse, Melody, Zen, Froot and Hime(who has been off and on again), Vshojo gained KSON, Nazuna, Henya and Matara after Nyanners, Veibae and Silvervale left Vshojo to continue their careers as Independant Vtubers. Veibae left because her contract didn't make financial sense to her.

There was an audition attempt in 2021 to bring in vtubers from the independents but someone was using this as a scam to doxx/swat people. There was a controversy related to that doxxing/swatting too.

(I dunno if I should elaborate on this further since that controversy divided a lot of people)

>In addition to Ironmouse, Melody, Zen, Froot and Hime(who has been off
>and on again), Vshojo gained KSON, Nazuna, Henya and Matara after
>Nyanners, Veibae and Silvervale left Vshojo to continue their careers
>as Independant Vtubers. Veibae left because her contract didn't make
>financial sense to her.

I would probably say they're half-indie given they all swapped to Mythic Talent. They're still getting management support and opportunities, just even less control or coordination.

Ah I forgot they swapped to Mythic Talent.

Mythic is merely a talent agency, not any sort of vtuber thing. A few vshojos are Mythic while also being vshojo, and most of Mythics managed talents are just regular flesh people. I think some don't even stream.

>Mythic is merely a talent agency, not any sort of vtuber thing. A few
>vshojos are Mythic while also being vshojo, and most of Mythics
>managed talents are just regular flesh people. I think some don't even
>stream.

The question was whether that suite of talents counted as independent when they're signed to Mythic, which given Mythic's capabilities and size I was saying they probably don't count as true indie any more.

I was reasonably sure no one still in VShojo somehow signed with Mythic, it would be a bit cross purposes. I took a quick re scan of both rosters and didn't see anyone. Who are you referring to?

I thought Mousey joined Mythic. Hmm.

Anyway, there's a difference between them. Mythic, being a talent agency is more a general thing. Vshojo is a vtuber agency/company and only really handles the vtuber aspect.

Kinda like how Callie is signed with Universal music group Japan while still being Hololive. One handles the vtuber things while the other does the musical stuff.

Anyway, a number of other indies are also signed with Mythic, but they're still indies. Bad, or Shylily, one of them, maybe both? They signed a handful around the same time and I didn't really pay attention to most once I figured out it wasn't a corporate trade or anything.

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I think you're drawing a distinction that isn't there.

VTubing is a facade, the game is content creation. The same things are in play for what VShojo was handling for those talents that Mythic could pick up, given that the early Vshojo signings had and maintained their Vtuber identities prior to singing and kept them after they left.

It's not the same as Henya or Matara, for example, if you're trying to point to new Vtuber identities and which may or may not belong to Vshojo instead of the talents themselves.

Signing with Mythic is different from signing with some place like vshojo. Mythic just looks for jobs/sponsorships for you. It doesn't mean you automatically have an in with anyone else signed with Mythic, it doesn't mean you can't collaborate with anyone outside, it MIGHT get you merch deals, but more likely they'll just handle the business parts of merch or other such deals that come to you directly.

Everyone on Mythic's list are still indie, they just have a business manager, essentially.

Oh hey, Mumei just passed a million subscribers tonight... in the course of an unarchived karaoke stream that started out so incredibly broken that she got horribly stressed out and could barely sing, at least to her own satifaction. :/

It was kind of a disaster, but she was at least able to acknowledge that it was also pretty funny, before signing off to hide under her bed until the mortification subsides.

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Oh hey, I keep forgetting to respond to this! I caught the very tail end (just the last four or five songs, I think) of the make-up/million subs karaoke stream. She sang "Popular" and "For Good" from Wicked, the latter naturally accompanied by a bit of crying over Sana in the chat. She did a very good job of it on her own, but "For Good" really needs to be a duet, and she mentioned wanting to sing it with Ame.

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We've covered the big corporations, we've covered the small ones, now how about those brave souls grinding away in the darkness, the independents? There's any number of unknown stars in the making out there who just need a lucky spark.

Here's a random few that do have enough of a following to be known enough to be talked about.

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Ririsya is a shortstack cute gothy snake zombie girl mostly focused on singing and music production, with some gaming on the side. She's another funny occurrence of only being a thing because chat memed her (like Subaru in Hololive). In her case, she wasn't originally a snake, but it turns out she has a verbal tic where whenever she gets embarrassed...she hisses.

She got a huge surge in popularity a couple years ago due to Mori Calliope's RIP contest where she finished in the top 15. Because of that, she has a shockingly high percentage of EN viewers in her chat and she's started catering to us. She has an autotranslator on screen and for her singing streams where she only chats intermittently, one of her moderators is usually around to do live TL in the chat as well.

She recently had her first ever 3D concert, which was funded from a successful Kickstarter.

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OniGiri is an oni girl Vtuber and RL streamer who used to be fully independent, but signed to GeeXPlus, a talent agency, on moving to Japan last year. Her usual gimmick is an overlay of her Vtuber model over a kitchen camera where she collaborates to make something with a wide variety of guests, including many members from VShojo and Hololive. Here's a recent collab with Matara Kan. Ironically, for being a heavily cooking focused content creator...she does burn her food a lot.

Her brother (known as OniBro to her chat) also moved to Japan to support her (he runs the cameras and cleans dishes in the background of her streams). Because Japan is a small place for visitors and expats, Regis and Axel from holoEN mentioned they just went drinking with him last week.

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Randon (Neuring) is an old (he's my age) orc VTuber who is quietly one of the best chat streamers (zatsudans) out there. Other than that, he plays an eclectic mix of things like FTL, XCOM, WoW, Stardew Valley, etc. He temporarily graduated a couple years ago to work another job but it unfortunately didn't agree with him, and he ended up not renewing his contract and coming back a year and change later. His chat streams are filled with either him riffing on what chat says or him telling crazy stories that could only come from a Florida Man. He's unfortunately also a little bit of a menhera but it's mostly endearing in an independent environment, instead of mildly frustrating watching him in a corporate one.

I couldn't quickly find a good solo chat highlight, but here's a couple of him riffing with Professor Magni (who mostly streams with real face cam), a good friend he made within the past couple years.
Vibing and Lando coming up with a great idea as always
The boys being inappropriate with an old meme

He doesn't really sing (and in fact this was likely one of the contributing factors behind leaving his interlude job and coming back to this identity).

LAST EDITED ON Jan-27-24 AT 07:09 PM (EST)
 
Just to add to OniGiri's thing a little, she also did collabs with Nerissa, Ollie (twice), Tenma, Henya of VShojo, Haruka Karibou of same, Magni Dezmond, KSon, Pikamee Amano, Zentraya, Mika Melatika and even Neuro-sama, among others.

(Edit: Whoops)

>Randon (Neuring) is an old (he's my age) orc VTuber who is quietly one
>of the best chat streamers (zatsudans) out there. Other than that, he
>plays an eclectic mix of things like FTL, XCOM, WoW, Stardew Valley,
>etc. He temporarily graduated a couple years ago to work another job
>but it unfortunately didn't agree with him,

Additionally, when put on a temporary "time-out and think about what you've done" suspension from his corporate position, he did what any reasonable gentleman would do: he went and bought an honest-to-goodness medieval-warfare type spear.

"This is probably a stupid question, but . . ."

>
>>Randon (Neuring) is an old (he's my age) orc VTuber who is quietly one
>>of the best chat streamers (zatsudans) out there. Other than that, he
>>plays an eclectic mix of things like FTL, XCOM, WoW, Stardew Valley,
>>etc. He temporarily graduated a couple years ago to work another job
>>but it unfortunately didn't agree with him,
>
>Additionally, when put on a temporary "time-out and think about what
>you've done" suspension from his corporate position, he did what any
>reasonable gentleman would do: he went and bought an
>honest-to-goodness medieval-warfare type spear.

Randon is a man who once just had Enough with civilization and his real person job at one point and fucked off on a long term bicycle trip across the country. He somehow didn't die on this -and- was able to get his job back when he came back. (It's never been said explicitly but it's probable he used to work some kind of tax season related office real person job.)

He is a survivalist prepper who has a secret cache of rice buried Somewhere for when the shit goes down. He hunts and fishes, as well.

He told a story once back when he was in college that during a hurricane (in a state where that is Serious Business), he wandered out of his apartment and to the bar and decided to just start drinking. He didn't tell his roommates, who were not impressed with him when he returned and was totally fine.

He told a different story once of when he woke up from a bout of drinking back in college to find out he'd been stabbed. He just shrugged it off and continued with his business.

Until Advent, members of Hololive English had their names presented in Japanese order: even the time-traveling detective, for whom Western order indisputably makes the most sense, is called "Watson Amelia" in her channel name and banner.

Yet I learned recently that the full name of the Hololive JP Gen 1 member commonly known as "Akirose" is in fact "Aki Rosenthal". I'm tempted to find a clip of Kiara's "nani the fuck".

Akirose is pretty unique in that sense - though while the Abyssguard twins aren't named separately on their channel name, they are called 'Fuwawa and Mococo Abyssguard' in the channel description, it's hard to say how that counts for things. I can only assume it's because Aki's lore is fairly unique, even among the Holos - she wrote a whole dang song in a language she made up for her lore after all. (Shallys, incidentally.)

>Akirose is pretty unique in that sense - though while the Abyssguard
>twins aren't named separately on their channel name, they are called
>'Fuwawa and Mococo Abyssguard' in the channel description, it's hard
>to say how that counts for things.

Well, like the OP says, "Until Advent." The only member of Advent whose name is officially in Japanese order is the one with a Japanese surname, Koseki Bijou. And nobody unironically calls her Koseki Bijou except Bae anyway. :)

Personally, I suspect the oddity of Ame's name is because no one at COVER really expected Myth to take off in North America, and they were hedging their bets against having to try and reinvent the English branch as a niche product at home; but that's only speculation.

(As for Council, they're all in .jp order too, but then none of them has an English name in the first place. Some of them are not Japanese names either, but the ones that aren't are Clearly Fictional Names of which the order doesn't really matter. And IRyS, well, she's only got the one name.)

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>>Akirose is pretty unique in that sense - though while the Abyssguard
>>twins aren't named separately on their channel name, they are called
>>'Fuwawa and Mococo Abyssguard' in the channel description, it's hard
>>to say how that counts for things.
>
>Well, like the OP says, "Until Advent." The only member of Advent
>whose name is officially in Japanese order is the one with a Japanese
>surname, Koseki Bijou. And nobody unironically calls her Koseki Bijou
>except Bae anyway. :)

Oh balls, I completely missed that - both what they said, *and* that Nerissa and Shiori and the dogs were in western order.

Anyway, Amelia never says her name in japanese order anyway, even when she's in Japan, I think, so I think Ame at least is just like. a bookkeeping sort of deal. Kinda like how nobody ever actually seems to say Ina's full name more than once or twice.

>Kinda like how nobody ever actually seems
>to say Ina's full name more than once or twice.

Except Bae, when she's yelling at her on Twitter for giving her an earworm when she was trying to go to sleep. :)

(And including Ina, who usually ends up saying something along the lines of "Ninyomaenyoinyanis" instead.)

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