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>ENigmatic Recollection Trailer

I feel like this is probably going to need its own thread sooner or later, so, might as well do it now.

There's a lot to unravel in this trailer, but for the moment I just love that everyone appears to be having a Serious Fantasy Adventure Battle... and then we have Gigi and Bae. :)

--G.
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They just ran the above trailer during the preshow hype segment of the Breaking Dimensions free-preview stream (aka the Broke Gang show), and there was a slide at the end noting that the official launch party for ER will be next Friday (8/30) at 7 PM Pacific (10 PM Eastern) on the holoEN official channel.

(It says this in the video description of the trailer, too, but now they have an actual slide for it. :)

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>There's a lot to unravel in this trailer, but for the moment I just
>love that everyone appears to be having a Serious Fantasy Adventure
>Battle... and then we have Gigi and Bae. :)

I think Raora was just chilling on a couch with her phone at one point too.

As part of the lead-up to the release and in keeping with the RPG theme, there's a five question personality test that tells you which EN mem you're closest in personality to. I'd hoped to end up as Bae, ended up as Cecilia on my first try instead.

>As part of the lead-up to the release and in keeping with the RPG
>theme, there's a
>five question personality test that tells you which EN mem you're closest in
>personality to. I'd hoped to end up as Bae, ended up as Cecilia on my
>first try instead.

Absolutely unshockingly, I drew Ina.

--G.
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For some reason I got the handbag terrier. The blue one.

...

I have...

Regerts

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cece + fuwamoco = extreme violins

>For some reason I got the handbag terrier. The blue one.
>
>...
>
>I have...
>
>Regerts

Not a fan of fluffiness, I guess?

> cece + fuwamoco = extreme violins

It's been done... ;)

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While a 5-question test is never going to have super-accurate results, I feel like this one is even more crack-brained than usual, unfortunately.

Either way, I pulled Mococo, so there's that.

"This is probably a stupid question, but . . ."

>Either way, I pulled Mococo, so there's that.

Hæh?

--G.
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LAST EDITED ON Aug-26-24 AT 05:26 PM (EDT)
 
edit: spelling

I'm reminded of a Youtube comment I witnessed which pointed to Fuwamoco as an example of a Canadian accent, which seems rather misguided.

Fuwamoconese is a unique animal, just like its speakers
"This is probably a stupid question, but . . ."

Pretty sure Fuwamoco are from coastal BC, so even if they were more typical for their place of origin they'd be off-center for an "average" Canadian accent. I think Kronii is an Ontarian; if so, she'd be a better example. (Last I looked at population stats, over half of Canada's residents lived in either Ontario or Quebec, and Ontario had roughly three times Quebec's population, so a random Canadian had better than one in three odds of being from Ontario.)

LAST EDITED ON Aug-26-24 AT 11:02 PM (EDT)
 
Fuwamoco have frankly deliberately weebed up their accent which makes it harder to pin down, to be fair.

Kronii is also hard to pin down because she moves so much and so regularly, for only speculated reasons that are probably too bizarre to try and cover here. (I'm led to believe she changed coasts in the last move but don't have something concrete on that one.)

>Kronii is also hard to pin down because she moves so much and so
>regularly, for only speculated reasons that are probably too bizarre
>to try and cover here.

Members of Alpha Flight get shunted around a lot. It's just part of the job.

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Kronii knows about Ogopogo though, which suggests she either took an interest in aquatic cryptids, or lived in southern BC at some point. My local lake monster is around about the level of the Lake Champlain monster in terms of stuff the average person is likely to have ever heard of - and she knew both the name, that it was a lake critter, and some kind of supposed serpent.

Which I suppose probably lends credence to moving around a lot for reasons to bizarre and unfathomable to consider.

Does this mean that Fuwamoco are the thirteenth-best fart-based comedy group in the Vancouver area?

...

Look, I'm paraphrasing here, but I hope someone gets that.

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I'm just saying, CommodoreHustle kind of has "VTuber animated skit" energy

LAST EDITED ON Aug-25-24 AT 02:50 PM (EDT)
 
>As part of the lead-up to the release and in keeping with the RPG
>theme, there's a
> five question personality test that tells you which EN mem you're closest in
>personality to. I'd hoped to end up as Bae, ended up as Cecilia on my
>first try instead.

...Huh.

Kronii.

I'm OK with that.

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Now that's just not fair. The very first question has four options; three are perfectly straightforward, and one is totally opaque. What can I do with the power of natural energies? It sounds more interesting, but "of natural energies" is not quite as obvious as "over nature".

First time (picking natural energies), I got Fauna. Second time (picking the power to protect and heal, but keeping all my other answers the same), I got Raora. I was kind of expecting Ina from that second try, but it seems like picking "Poison Lily" for the moniker question was preventing me from getting her. (I've started to associate her with flowers, thanks to her songs "Violet" and "Meconopsis".)

LAST EDITED ON Aug-30-24 AT 11:23 PM (EDT)
 
Well, the launch party just happened, and it appears that Phase I of ENreco is going to be a Minecraft-based RP series. The prospect is taking me back to when I first stumbled across the Yogscast, since one of the things they were known for at the time was exactly that kind of thing.

They've also just dropped the first of the project's original songs, which is anime-OP short but teams up some of the branch's most powerful vocalists.

To quote the MC of the Imperial City Arena in Oblivion, "This! Should! Be! Interesting!"

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I never noticed how similar those four are until I saw them all lined up in profile like that~

>Well, the
>launch party just happened, and it appears that Phase I of ENreco is going
>to be a Minecraft-based RP series. The prospect is taking me
>back to when I first stumbled across the Yogscast, since one of the
>things they were known for at the time was exactly that kind of thing.

"Now that's a name I've not heard in a long time."

>They've also just dropped the first of the project's
>original songs, which
>is anime-OP short but teams up some of the branch's most powerful
>vocalists.

On the one hand, I enjoyed it and am looking forward to where this experiment goes.

On the other, I'm reminded of the MVs for Hololive Alternative and can't help but wonder when we're finally getting a Hololive anime series.

>To quote the MC of the Imperial City Arena in Oblivion, "This!
>Should! Be! Interesting!"

"IT! COULD! WORK!"

LAST EDITED ON Aug-31-24 AT 06:34 AM (EDT)
 
>Well, the launch party just happened, and it appears that Phase I of ENreco is going to be a Minecraft-based RP series.

I haven't actually watched the launch party yet, but part of me wonders if the "homework" driving Kaela insane over the last few months was building the RP world . . .

"This is probably a stupid question, but . . ."

Could have also been building her birthday game.

That's probably the actual answer, I just think it would be amusing (and not improbable) that they put Kaela and the other ID girls to work on it.

"This is probably a stupid question, but . . ."

*sigh*

You can erase their memories, but that doesn't stop the AmeSame banter.

So with all 19 EN members in one place, is it ant wonder that it supercharged the "EN curseLaw?"

>So with all 19 EN members in one place

I hope dividing them up into teams barely-coherent mobs is by way of arranging matters so they don't all have to be streaming at once henceforth, because I tell you what, if HoloMgt deliberately set out to induce option paralysis in me, they could not have done it better than they did last night. :)

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Oh good, I'm not the only one. Having some serious fear-of-missing-out by having to choose only one stream. Though I did get lucky with Cecelia's stream- she was with Gura when they cleared the Gura dungeon, so that was pretty funny (shark hazing here for the curious).

"This is probably a stupid question, but . . ."

So Kiwawa and Rissa came together and decided their mission in this new reality: "Save The Lesbians."

Everyday we stray further from Yagoo's dream.

>Everyday we stray further from Yagoo's dream.

"Do I make you hard, baby?"

"Bro what?!"

"What?"

--G.
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>Everyday we stray further from Yagoo's dream.

Live Yagoo Reaction

"This is probably a stupid question, but . . ."

I started assembling a playlist of the ENreco official videos as they drop, and then I thought, "Well, why keep it to myself?" So I set it to public. Thus far, it has the launch trailer, the Chapter 1 theme MV, and the three Recollection videos that have thus far come out (Calli, Gura, and Ina). I'll do my best to keep it current.

--G.
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So just looking at these videos as they go up...

It seems as if Hololive is using this as an opportunity to allow the talents to roleplay as their 'original backgrounds' and explore them in a new context without also having to primarily be streamers and LPers.

Like, for once they can concentrate on entirely being the 'characters' they were given the background of, like Calli as a reaper, Gura as an Atlantean shark girl, and so on, and explore what that could mean as they do heroics in a fantasy isekai-type world.

It's always interesting to consider the divide between the Hololive talent as an internet personality and the extent to which they keep themselves 'in character', which is often 'barely to not at all' by what I've gathered, and I guess this is where they get to explore life as actually roleplaying as the 'character' side rather than the 'talent' side of their existences.

If anyone's thinking of writing for the characters AS characters, like I'm sure certain people here at Eyrie might be, then paying close attention to how the characters behave and hold themselves in ENigmatic Recollection will be very important as it might well form the 'canon' for that.

>It seems as if Hololive is using this as an opportunity to allow the
>talents to roleplay as their 'original backgrounds' and explore them
>in a new context without also having to primarily be streamers and
>LPers.
>
>Like, for once they can concentrate on entirely being the 'characters'
>they were given the background of, like Calli as a reaper, Gura as an
>Atlantean shark girl, and so on, and explore what that could mean as
>they do heroics in a fantasy isekai-type world.

I sort of think of the ER videos as another "piece of the puzzle," of putting a bit more flesh on the bare skeleton of backstory that each was given when they first debuted. After all, Myth was the start of Yagoo's idea of getting away from generations and moving towards themes with their theme being "mystery." Questions like "Where did Gura come from?," "Who was Ina before she found the book?," "Why is Mori on holiday from reaping?," "What is Kiara really?" and "When does Ame originally hail from?"

>It's always interesting to consider the divide between the Hololive
>talent as an internet personality and the extent to which they keep
>themselves 'in character', which is often 'barely to not at all' by
>what I've gathered, and I guess this is where they get to explore life
>as actually roleplaying as the 'character' side rather than the
>'talent' side of their existences.
>
>If anyone's thinking of writing for the characters AS characters, like
>I'm sure certain people here at Eyrie might be, then paying close
>attention to how the characters behave and hold themselves in
>ENigmatic Recollection will be very important as it might well form
>the 'canon' for that.

Of the now 19* HoloEN Mems, I'd say it's a sliding scale of who has hewed closest to that blurb they got when they debuted and who has totally walked away from it. Ame gets a special medal for not only embracing her own backstory but expanding on it so much that she's now reached "Superboy punched a wall" level of meme status in the fandom.

*Yegods, is it really that many?

LAST EDITED ON Sep-03-24 AT 03:28 PM (EDT)
 
>If anyone's thinking of writing for the characters AS characters, like
>I'm sure certain people here at Eyrie might be, then paying close
>attention to how the characters behave and hold themselves in
>ENigmatic Recollection will be very important as it might well form
>the 'canon' for that.

Sort of? There's a pretty big gap between the way the story of ENreco is being presented in the lore videos and whatnot and what the "players" are actually doing in the game, the latter of which seems largely to consist of Yogs-style blundering around for comic effect (albeit with a lot less building). Like, if I were going to present a version of Calliope Mori in UF, I doubt she would be running a diner that offers divorce proceedings. :)

--G.
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>Like, if I were going to present a
>version of Calliope Mori in UF, I doubt she would be running a diner
>that offers divorce proceedings. :)

I dunno, a divorce could be seen as the death of a relationship. I could also maybe see her renting out large-caliber firearms and/or small mecha for customers to put their despised appliances and/or buildings to death.

I would absolutely pay to put on a Cyclone and punt a printer, especially after having to set it up a second time.
"This is probably a stupid question, but . . ."

Ina addresses the persistent question of how "canon" ENreco is, if that term even means anything when applied to vtuber kayfabe.

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>Ina addresses the persistent question of how "canon" ENreco is, if that term even means
>anything when applied to vtuber kayfabe.

"Just repeat to yourself 'It's just a show, I should really just relax.'"

>>Ina addresses the persistent question of how "canon" ENreco is, if that term even means
>>anything when applied to vtuber kayfabe.
>
>"Just repeat to yourself 'It's just a show, I should really just
>relax.'"

I admit I do sometimes wonder how they eat and breathe.

--G.
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LAST EDITED ON Sep-05-24 AT 05:00 PM (EDT)
 
I've noticed that for a number of them, the answer to one or both is 'somewhat poorly'.

Random question, but has anybody said how long this whole joint Minecraft RP thing is going on for? IOW, is there a set end-date or goal to be reached or do they just go until management pulls the plug?

LAST EDITED ON Sep-07-24 AT 00:40 AM (EDT)
 
> Random question, but has anybody said how long this whole joint
> Minecraft RP thing is going on for?

Well, FuwaMoco put up 'Finale' on their next streams set for the 7th at 7PM PST, though I don't see any of the other EN girls having waiting rooms up for day 8.

>Random question, but has anybody said how long this whole joint
>Minecraft RP thing is going on for?

Tomorrow (that is, September 7 in the US) is the last day of Chapter 1. I gather that some sort of in-game Event is planned, after which I would guess they'll pause for a while before Chapter 2 in order to let everybody get some rest; allow the admins time to twiddle with the server (if in fact Chapter 2 involves more sandbox action--for all I know it might be something completely different); and give members a window in which to, y'know, maybe stream something that isn't Minecraft occasionally. :)

(I further speculate that whatever form it takes when it arrives, Chapter 2 will involve challenges of some kind themed after the members of Promise, as Chapter 1 had the Myth dungeons; and so on.)

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>>Random question, but has anybody said how long this whole joint
>>Minecraft RP thing is going on for?
>
>Tomorrow (that is, September 7 in the US) is the last day of Chapter
>1. I gather that some sort of in-game Event is planned

But You Don't Have to Take My Word For It dep't:

"Tomorrow, the final event of #ENreco Chapter 1 will take place on the YouTube channel of each #hololiveEN talent!

Be sure to catch it!✨

⏰Sep 7th 7PM (PDT)"

- holoEN official Twitter account

So, I guess another exercise in option paralysis...

--G.
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ENreco Part 7 of Chapter 1:

The MACROSS Maneuver - just what's needed to bring Protoculture or remove Corruption.

--- Philip
(I admit I teared up some when it happened in ERB's stream.)

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So Chapter 1 is over and we got to see a better romance story than Twilight reach its conclusion.

>So Chapter 1 is over and we got to see a
>better romance story than
>Twilight reach its conclusion.

Some members of the cast were obviously more comfortable/experienced at the live roleplaying thing than others, but man, the way GG instantly rolled with "And... you are?" Unless I miss my guess, that is hundreds of hours at the ole D&D* table paying off right there. :)

--G.
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>>So Chapter 1 is over and we got to see a
>>better romance story than
>>Twilight reach its conclusion.
>
>Some members of the cast were obviously more comfortable/experienced
>at the live roleplaying thing than others, but man, the way GG
>instantly rolled with "And... you are?" Unless I miss my guess, that
>is hundreds of hours at the ole D&D* table paying off right
>there. :)

>--G.
>* other tabletop roleplaying game systems are
>available

According to her "week in review" stream, she actually did a lot of textual roleplay in Neopets, Gaia Online, and Deviantart in the past. But never really roleplayed in a game, "face-to-face" speaking with each other before.

(looking forward to the other review streams from the talents that are coming up, like Liz's.)

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>According to her
>"week in review" stream, she actually did a lot of textual roleplay in
>Neopets, Gaia Online, and Deviantart in the past. But never really
>roleplayed in a game, "face-to-face" speaking with each other
>before.

Huh, wow. I would have bet she had a lot of tabletop experience.

Also, I love that Gonathan G is a dude because Gigi forgot it was an amnesia story and just made up a character who wasn't supposed to be herself. It's the perfect illustration of how she is both the smartest and the dumbest member of Justice at the same time. :)

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>Also, I love that Gonathan G is a dude because Gigi forgot it was
>an amnesia story and just made up a character who wasn't supposed
>to be herself. It's the perfect illustration of how she is both the
>smartest and the dumbest member of Justice at the same time. :)

This is my favorite description of Gigi ever. Bonus example from her stream of how Gigi absorbs documentation.

"This is probably a stupid question, but . . ."