We didn't seem to have e a general thread for indies, and I have a few to talk about. Mainly this one one who just debuted to tens of thousands for some reason.

Her name is Dooby and she's a jerboa train engineer who has apparently won an Emmy for Foley work before.

Which she couldn't mention to anyone in her previous job.

Eh, we kinda did but it's not a big deal to have another.

Oh wow, I even made it. ...though that was for recommendations, I intended this to be like the general hololive threads.

Well that's suprising. I thought she was not fully gone from Hololive.

>Well that's suprising. I thought she was not fully gone from Hololive.

We cannot know the terms of contracts that haven't been made public, but it's entirely conceivable that she was formerly required to stream exclusively for hololive, and is now no longer so required.

It could also be that the "not really a graduation" thing was a polite, palliative fiction, as in the stereotypical example where parents tell their children that their deceased pet is doing fine on a farm somewhere. :/

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>We cannot know the terms of contracts that haven't been made public,
>but it's entirely conceivable that she was formerly required to stream
>exclusively for hololive, and is now no longer so required.
>
>It could also be that the "not really a graduation" thing was a
>polite, palliative fiction, as in the stereotypical example where
>parents tell their children that their deceased pet is doing fine on a
>farm somewhere. :/

Based on everything we've heard, I think the best way to characterize the situation is that Ame was moved from "starring" to "special guest." It's never been said aloud, but I have a sneaking suspicion that the growth of vtubing as an industry has made the traditional graduation process of ending the use of the IP, pulling all the merchandise, and canceling any existing projects no longer viable from a financial viewpoint. And that this new "Ame Way" squares the circle of allowing her to go and do her own thing while allowing COVER to continue profiting off the IP. Sort of in the same vein as Rin and the others who are graduating from Idol Corp are being allowed to walk away with their IP in exchange for a 2 year profit-sharing agreement.

LAST EDITED ON Oct-27-24 AT 05:46 PM (EDT)
 
From some mutterings I just saw, I've formed a theory that's basically just "She never liked the idol stuff and she just wants to game and mess around with the tech, and her employer was unable to make the exceptions that would let her do this, so she semi-graduated but is still on super good terms with everyone and it was just contracts/stratified social structures getting in the way."

A certain maid also redebuted - the consensus for her seems to be that she was just tired of the limelight and wanted a bit of a reset back home in the countryside without all the busy recording and 3Ds and all that - she had moved to Tokyo to be closer to the studio and has moved back to the country.

If so, it would seem that their previous employers idol-adjacency is getting a bit restrictive and slightly chafe-y for some of the talents. I can think of a few who might be next, if so....the lion has never seemed very keen on singing and dancing...

>From some mutterings I just saw, I've formed a theory that's basically
>just "She never liked the idol stuff and she just wants to game and
>mess around with the tech

... at which point, one of the first things she does is turn around and appear as one of the guests in Doki and Minto's FantomeThief live show.

And that is why you will never understand the mind of Dooby. :)

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I saw it said that there's a difference between her previous employers (apparent) mandate of one live appearance a year plus cover songs, and showing up at a friends amateur concert just because you want to be there, and, yeah, I can dig that.

That was work. This is fun. It's basically the same thing, but just the change in context can be huge, sometimes.

Well, there is something in what you say.

On the other hand, we still will never understand the mind of Dooby. :)

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>If so, it would seem that their previous employers idol-adjacency is
>getting a bit restrictive and slightly chafe-y for some of the
>talents. I can think of a few who might be next, if so....the lion has
>never seemed very keen on singing and dancing...

It's feeling very much like a "square peg, round hole" scenario, that vtuber agencies in the East are approaching vtubing as a new facet of the existing idol singer industry than simply an evolution of live streaming. And while concerts and fan events bring more money than streaming games and reading superchats, it also has greater physical demands than sitting in a gaming chair for hours at a time.

You could sort of hold up Kizuna Ai or Tokino Sora as the archetypes of Eastern vtuber culture and someone like Ironmouse as the Western archetype, one very much steeped in idol culture and the latter just a live streamer who has a L2D model rather than a webcam. Yes, Ironmouse has an amazing singing voice and she's given live performances, but she's not very physical (for health reasons) and puts all her energy and stamina into crazy long streams. I've a personal suspicion that it's this cultural rift that is at the heart of Anycolor's total mismanagement of their EN branch.

So our favorite gremlin is entering her new persona with full force, releasing a trio of short lore snippets.

>So our favorite gremlin is entering her new persona with full force,
>releasing a trio of short lore snippets.

It occurred to me as I was watching these that Dooby is the easiest vtuber UF port imaginable. She's clearly from some other region of Japari Park where the light rail system still works. She's a Friend who's good at trains.

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This is for the JP purviewers, but Sakuna just had a re-debut. She is a gamer maid who loves SAO.

Another familiar voice, this time from down under, makes a return after a one year absence.

Let's all welcome the soon-to-be Indies from the Production Kawaii and Eien Project, newly freed from corporate - Several of Eien have bought out their IP from the company, while others have decided to not. Eien will be adding the new identities to the social media and channels for the ones who haven't bought their IP out to better help fans find them, which is a nice touch, honestly.

Dooby will be guesting at Mint and Doki's concert in Georgia

Sometimes when I'm scrolling the home screen on YouTube, I'll see a vtuber, either an indie or one with an agency I've usually never heard of before, streaming to like five or ten people, and I always feel so bad for them. Not in a patronizing "well bless your little heart" way, but with what I hope is real empathy, because that has to be soul-crushing. I mean to say, there you are, way out on a limb both fiscally and socially, on the biggest stage on the planet, and you're not even pulling community theater numbers. I'm not sure I would ever recover.

The only way I could ever function as a vtuber would be to find some way of not knowing how many people were watching--small or big number. I wonder if the streaming console/dashboard/whatever can be configured not to share that information...

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When I was far more blessed with free time years ago, I would sometimes go on Twitch and scroll a few pages down first (or start from the bottom and scroll up) and then look for streams to interact with in a given category that seemed interesting. You can actually interact with the community and the streamer directly and a lot of them are very welcoming. Sometimes you find someone to click with or you actually find someone on the cusp of blowing up but before they do and it was pretty cool.

(Thankfully, whenever I go live I have no expectation of anyone watching while I'm actually streaming who I don't already know directly, so it takes a lot of the pressure off.)

I stream when I'm gaming, no commentary or anything, just gameplay. I have no watch numbers that I can easily see (and I'm too busy playing to notice anyway). I know that nobody is going to come in except maybe one person who pops in when they see me, and bots. I've reported quite a few of them for scamming now. Paid follows, asking to use creator code on Fortnite, follow for follow, shilling for some asshole on youtube, etc.

The best way to stream is to only care if the few people you're streaming for specifically are there, I think, with everyone else being a bonus. And use your OBS elements to cover up any counts that exist.

LAST EDITED ON Feb-16-25 AT 00:37 AM (EST)
 
My first encounter with the content of BriAtCookiebox, rigger and independent VTuber, was this short. Haven't watched much else yet, but I think I like her sense of humour.

EDIT: It turns out that Bri's mother has one-upped Gin Penrose and all the HoloMoms. After a guest appearance on her daughter's stream, she went and started a channel of her own.

New indie VTuber Lilith O'Leerie did a stream a few weeks back drawing and talking about her family, including her suspiciously familiar-sounding younger sister.

In other news, Kiryu Coco's Meme Review is back! ... Kind of.

This is a little late but wasn't covered yet soooo

☁️✨ Welcome to the world of Dreamers ✨☁️
> A new constellation of Stars has arrived—Sunny, Mogu, Emuri, and Nova—bringing their own magic to the Glitch Stars universe! 🌙💫
> Their journey begins February 15th at 6 PM EST—don’t sleep on it!
> Follow us for updates and step into the dream. 🌌✨
> #Dreamers #GlitchStars #EnterTheDream

And more recently a VoD excerpt from Mogu: Game Show: How Well Do My Gen Mates Know Each Other?

From out in JP indie land, Otsuka Ray with a heartwarming milestone tweet.
> 【English Translation】
> My daughter Reika will be starting kindergarten this spring.

> As a single mother, the reason I’ve been able to raise my daughter safely and lovingly up until now is all thanks to the support I’ve received from so many people. I’m truly grateful to all of you.

> That day, when I found out that I was pregnant, I felt a deep sense of anxiety.
> With both of my parents frequently in and out of the hospital, no siblings, and no one nearby I could rely on, I wondered if I could really raise a child on my own.

> But my late father, who passed away last year, said, “I want to see my grandchild’s face.” His words gave me the courage I needed to make the decision to give birth.
> I still remember during the dangerous delivery, the doctor asked him, “Whose life should we save?” and he tearing up as he gave his answer.
> Even so, Reika fought bravely and was born into this world.

> I’m so glad I chose to bring her into this life.
> I’m so grateful I got to meet someone as precious and adorable as Reika.

> From the day you were born until now, Mama loves you more than anything else in the world every single day.

> Of course, life hasn’t been easy.
> I’ve always had a weak body, so I wanted to raise Reika as healthy and strong as possible. I breastfed her until she was three.
> And because I’m a single parent, I wanted to be by her side as much as I could, so I chose to become a VTuber.

> Things didn’t always go as I hoped. I had to rely on the savings I made during my idol days to get by.
> But little by little, more and more people began to support us.
> Reika grew up alongside me, always by my side during streams.
> The baby who once couldn’t speak now knows how to talk, how to sing and soon she’ll be a kindergartener.

> To everyone who has watched over the two of us all this time
> Thank you very much
> And I hope you’ll continue to stay with us.

So I'm still trying to wrap my head around how this happened, but for those who watch the tweets or the Youtubes and wonder why there's suddenly a massive radioactive crater where Sinder's career used to be, the short answer is "She delved too greedily and too deep."

For those who don't know who Sinder was, she was a pretty big deal in the indie vtuber scene by sheer presence if not sub/viewer counts because she seemed to be friends with virtually all the big names. At least she was until Saturday, when her whole persona turned out to be a fabrication and all her former "friends" nuked her from orbit.

Long and short of it was her now ex-modeler dropped a Google doc on Saturday night revealing that Sinder and her long-time boyfriend/manager trying not only to pressure her into refusing work from other vtubers, but also engaging in a campaign to smear and ruin anyone she saw as competition. Her immediate reaction was to first announce that her manager was fired and then go radio silent for several hours before posting an "apology" that basically tried to absolve herself of any part in the whole fiasco and pin the entire blame on him before begging forgiveness from her "friends." The only problem was that 8 other docs dropped showing that she was not only an equal participant but arguably the worse of the two.

So yeah, 72 hours later, all of her former "friends" have declared her persona non grata, other modelers and artists are dropping any professional links with her, sponsors are ending their deals with her, and her fans are abandoning her left and right. It's not a certainty that her vtuber career is over, but she's certainly going to have a hell of a time crawling back to even a fraction of what she once had.

I skimmed something about all this over the weekend, and the vibe of it felt very familiar, but it took me a minute to place it. In the end I realized that it reminded me of half a dozen internal battles waged within various sci-fi and/or anime convention organizations over the past few aeons decades. That whole "jockeying for finite resources while pretending to be pals" thing, with the inevitable explosion of toxic drama when someone finally speaks up.

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>I skimmed something about all this over the weekend, and the vibe of
>it felt very familiar, but it took me a minute to place it. In the
>end I realized that it reminded me of half a dozen internal battles
>waged within various sci-fi and/or anime convention organizations over
>the past few aeons decades. That whole "jockeying for finite
>resources while pretending to be pals" thing, with the inevitable
>explosion of toxic drama when someone finally speaks up.
>
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>Nihil novi sub sole and all that.

That's sort of the catch here and the reason why she's being burned in effigy, because it appears she was playing the business game while everybody else just thought she was a genuinely nice person. The word popping up again and again from people who've read the Google docs is "psychopath," that the "good girl" personality was all an act and she was actively preying on fellow indie vtubers known to be emotionally vulnerable. That she'd latch onto them, actively sabotage them behind the scenes while using them to boost her own exposure, and then play up on their insecurities to prevent them from asking too many questions. Alot of folks are pointing out that her recent collab with Neuro was the first hint that the act was failing, that she got more anxious and evasive when questioned about her offline behavior and the way she was acting towards her "friends."

All I have to add to all this is that This collab with actual AI V-tuber Neuro-sama is being looked at in an entirely different light now. Neuro somehow honed in on how uncomfortable her question made Sinder and she learned a new game; interrogation.

Also, since Sinder is a 'part owner of Gamersupps' I wonder what's going to happen there; pay her out and sue her for some kind of...abuse of services? It feels like there's a legal thing they can take out on her but I can't think of the correct term....

> before posting an "apology" that basically tried to
>absolve herself of any part in the whole fiasco and pin the entire
>blame on him

Oh come on now. If you've read it she straight up admits to what is some pretty screwed up shit. She also says she didn't know about other parts, which... doesn't actually seem to contradict anyone's screenshots or descriptions of events (at least that I've seen), just an unwavering, unbelievable belief that "there's no way she didn't know". Absolving herself of any part in this, it is not.

The level of certainty on the part of a lot of people talking about this reaches the point where they start coming across as genuinely scary people. There never could have been any miscommunications or things hidden between Sinder and Red, because those are problems human couples have, but not them, they're special. Could she have had mixed feelings that led to contradictory behavior? Definitely not!

Fucking hell. I'm not certain about anything. The worst could be true. Or not. Or something in between.

But the night after I decided I'd give her a second chance to show that she deserves a second chance is the first night since this dropped that I've slept soundly, untroubled by something in the back of my head screaming "Miles, what have you done with your baby brother?!"

(Obviously, there's some degree of metaphor involved.)

>sponsors are ending their deals with her

This, on the other hand, is new information. I wasn't aware that Sinder *had* any ongoing sponsor deals. The main thing I'm seeing right now is people yelling at GamerSupps, along with what one might call borderline harassment of Mint Fantome, for the temerity of not being precogs and retroactively deciding to not have a merch drop.

(And what do they expect GS to do? They're almost certainly dealing with outside suppliers for some of what they do, suppliers who probably don't care about vtubers but do care about dropped contracts. To not at least finish out any current merch deals with Sinder could be really bad for their ongoing business.
Should they pay for a bunch of merch and not sell it then?)

-IA.

(received information not interpretable)

If you look at Shylily's response, a particularly damning part from her is that *Sinder* rescheduled a collab for the VCard thing to the same day as one of Sinders friends first live concert and then blamed Shylily for Sinder having to miss it. That's pretty direct evidence of Sinder being Not A Great Person.

Then you look at the other stories of Sinder's other *direct interactions*, some of them *in person* with people, with her bf/manager not being involved at all.... like going up to people, getting selfies without asking, etc...

That part is honestly bizarre, because concerts are supposed to be a great way to drive sales of your stuff? Or rather, I've seen live musicians say that they don't really make much on concerts, it's all about the sales boost, and I don't know why it'd be different for vtubers.

As a point of timeline confusion, I thought there'd been multiple Numi concerts before this one? That's what someone else told me anyway. And somewhere on twitter I saw another vtuber mentioning being in the audience with Sinder at one.

-IA.

(received information not interpretable)

HOLDING a concert is, yes. Just being present for one to support a friend? There's no money in that.

I was specifically told the issue was one that she was performing in. (With reference to having to get someone at the last moment to take Sinder's place.)

-IA.

(received information not interpretable)

LAST EDITED ON Apr-30-25 AT 08:42 PM (EDT)
 
Really? That must have been glossed over in the stuff I heard - I've not read these google docs - but that's kinda weird if it's so.

Maybe the vCard promo was more direct long term sales? Since she is/was part owner of the company...

Part owner is too damn vague; Shylily and Sinder are not the only ones I've heard of, and it really comes across as more of a publicity thing than a "are actually a major figure in operations" to me.

(I am technically part owner of the ISP I use! Because it's a coop and you have to buy one share as part of signing up for service.)

I don't know, it's just a little hard to imagine the math working out, especially since I don't think there would have been anything stopping her from doing both, just with slightly different timing? Not like that was even the only vcard stream she did that week, and I doubt she was the only one promoing it...

-IA.

(received information not interpretable)

That's the whole point, she *specifically* rescheduled the collab to be at the same time as the concert. Why? Hell if I know. But she's the one who requested it.

Yeah, I'm just saying I don't think it makes sense as a purely mercenary move.

-IA.

(received information not interpretable)

Oh here we go.

Okay, so apparently Sinder blew off performing with Numi in New York, rescheduled a collab with Shylily for the same day, blamed Lily for the schedule conflict then DITCHED that collab to be in the audience of the concert.

So she basically fucked over *both* of them, and STILL got to be in New York to schmooze and make connections and make a public appearance.

>Okay, so apparently Sinder blew off performing with Numi in New York,
>rescheduled a collab with Shylily for the same day, blamed Lily for
>the schedule conflict then DITCHED that collab to be in the
>audience of the concert.

That first part could be written off as supremely inept life management, on par with the time I accidentally ended up with two companies expecting me to start on the same day and then picked the wrong one. The bit at the end, though... I can't read that as anything other than a colossal dick move.

>So she basically fucked over *both* of them, and STILL got to be in
>New York to schmooze and make connections and make a public
>appearance.

Hang on, though, how does a vtuber make a public appearance in this context?

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LAST EDITED ON May-06-25 AT 00:24 AM (EDT)
 
Sinder's made fleshy appearances before, cosplaying as herself on stage at least once. I don't know if she's shown her face like some of that overall group of indies vtubers but she is at least somewhat known.

This scenario is getting bizarre as hell. Like, if all she wanted was to be in the audience at the concert rather than in the concert, wouldn't there have been simpler ways? It's all taking on the distinct flavor of panicked improvisation for me, but I don't know what she'd have been panicking over.

In related news, apparently Vienna has come under fire for being insufficiently angry at Sinder. (FalseEyeD video with her responding to said goings on here.) Haven't heard of anything similar happening with Tricky or Yuzu, but the month is still young so who knows.

-IA.

(i can never remember how to do links here)

> Vienna has come under fire for being
> insufficiently angry at Sinder.

Yeah, that's just screwed up. Be angry at Sinder for causing this mess, not at other people for not being as angry as you think they should be.

>In related news, apparently Vienna has come under fire for being
>insufficiently angry at Sinder. (FalseEyeD video with her responding
>to said goings on here.) Haven't
>heard of anything similar happening with Tricky or Yuzu, but the month
>is still young so who knows.

It's like watching the fallout from the revelation in a movie/tv show that the cinnamon roll that everybody loved was really the villain all along. Some are feeling righteous fury, some are feeling emotional betrayal, some vindication of their suspicions, some emotional exhaustion, and some genuinely want to believe that there's still good in her. And here's the thing: There's nothing wrong with any of those responses, they're all perfectly valid and you're not any lesser of a person for feeling one or all of them.

Call me a fool, but there's a part of me that wants to believe that Vienna's right, that there's still some good in Sinder and she can receive forgiveness if she makes a genuine effort to make up for her actions. But that's probably because I'm bummed out that all the collabs between these goobers that I've come to love may be truly over and done with.

>There's nothing wrong with any of those
>responses, they're all perfectly valid and you're not any lesser of a
>person for feeling one or all of them.

On the one hand, I can understand that in the general case, even if there's at least one specific person who I cannot help but look askance at in this regard.

However... I also have the distinct feeling that a lot of the louder voices weren't ever really invested enough in any of the vtubers involved or their communities to have an emotional response like that, and really are just here to watch the world burn (as it were).

>Call me a fool, but there's a part of me that wants to believe that
>Vienna's right, that there's still some good in Sinder and she can
>receive forgiveness if she makes a genuine effort to make up for her
>actions.

Personally, I think there's some reason for hope. At the very least, I've decided to act in whatever way I'd want myself to have acted if things do work out for the better.

Still, the complete radio silence is making me antsy.

-IA.

(received information not interpretable)

>Still, the complete radio silence is making me antsy.

Certainly not helped by her simps going after Shylily in a blatant case of "whataboutism" and Sinder continuing to remain silent instead of moving to defend her "friend." This would have been the perfect opportunity to begin healing the rift, to call out anybody attacking the vtubers she injured and condemning their actions.

The silence speaks volumes.

> The silence speaks volumes.

Yeah, it tells me that she's not looking at twitter because she's gotten tired of people screaming at her.

Or that she's gone completely offline, similar reasons.

Or none of it's in her tags and no one's pinged her, or no one who she allows DMs from has told her about it.

Or she's dead. (I'm really hoping it's not this one.)

Or... huh, it doesn't really tell me jack shit, does it.

How do you prove a negative?

Seriously, I've been looking around in some pretty pro-Sinder spaces in twitter and no one's been talking about or like this. This is -not- a couldn't-possibly-have-missed trend here.

-IA.

(received information not interpretable)

>In related news, apparently Vienna has come under fire for being
>insufficiently angry at Sinder. (FalseEyeD video with her responding
>to said goings on here.) Haven't
>heard of anything similar happening with Tricky or Yuzu, but the month
>is still young so who knows.

Okay, so that is absolutely fucking bullshit. I watched the clip of Vienna talking about it and she clearly feels hurt and betrayed. But just that she's not in tears (like Bao and Numi and Tricky were) doesn't mean she doesn't hurt as much. Some people just aren't as emotive in public. I feel sorry for it hitting Bao and Numi the way it did after watching their reactions (oh god, poor Bao), but people have their emotional reaction levels, and Vienna's thing has always been being laid back and chill.

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"This may not be a good idea, but it's the only one I have."

For what it's worth, the buzzword-laden parody of a mission statement on the Gamer Supps website starts with "Gamer Supps Inc.", so they're presumably structured as a corporation. Which opens up the possibility that the "face" shareholders only have preferred shares, which get priority and better returns when it comes to dividends in exchange for no voting power.

Kirsche Verstahl has finally been getting attention that she's either an alt-right grifter or an actual racist/bigot/neo-Nazi.

I've seen it argued that this article is taking things out of context to make them sound bad; I don't care nearly enough about her to try and figure out if and to what degree that's true.

The 'grifter' thing has never made sense to me though. If someone expresses beliefs that you find odious, why would you not take them at their word for it?

-IA.

(received information not interpretable)

>I've seen it argued that this article is taking things out of context
>to make them sound bad; I don't care nearly enough about her to try
>and figure out if and to what degree that's true.
>
>The 'grifter' thing has never made sense to me though. If someone
>expresses beliefs that you find odious, why would you not take them at
>their word for it?
>
>-IA.
>
>(received information not interpretable)

This is trending even more because the subreddit has a longer summary of things she's said as additional evidence beyond just what the Vice article has.

And here I've seen people citing being friends with Kirsche as some kind of proof of being...I don't know. Good, in some manner.

WeatherPlanet debuted last week, an indie group of 2.
Amagai Ruka debut highlights, alongside Appare Hinata.

Ruka is a famous re-debut. If you've listened to her before, you probably should recognize her voice instantly. If not, youtube comments will spell it out since I can't figure out how to do spoiler blocks on here.

>I can't figure out how to do spoiler blocks on here.

([font color="white"]spoilers[/font])

renders like:

(spoilers)

readers can click-and-drag within the parens to highlight and read.

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Ah, thanks. I kinda forgot about doing things that way because I'm used to places having a billion alternate themes and just changing the font can't assume the background color. Some places have a font=transparent to get around that but I assumed that wasn't implemented here...forgetting we're all on the same background.

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To break kayfabe, Ruka is the re-debut of: {Sakamata Chloe, who did quit for health issues and with an eye towards doing this with what is believed to be her RL sister}.
She also revealed she had successful surgery for one issue and found an ongoing treatment to deal with another issue.

stinky orca

She also looks....remarkably similar to before. Especially since she first appeared wearing her hooded raincoat. :3