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#0, They said it could never happen...
Posted by Gryphon on Jun-10-26 at 09:38 PM
LAST EDITED ON Jun-10-26 AT 09:39 PM (EDT)
 
... somebody finally wrote a version of Damian Wayne I don't completely hate.

The version in Tom King's Trinity: Daughter of Wonder Woman is still an asshole, make no mistake. He's just as rude, abrasive, and generally obnoxious as he ever was...

... but grouped with a version of Jon Kent who just (usually-)cheerfully ignores his misanthropy and his delusions of adequacy except to riff on them mercilessly, and an Amazon princess who thinks of them both as her dopey big brothers, he's actually kinda tolerable. At the very least, he makes Jon and Lizzie funnier by being there for contrast. :)

Also, I dig the adult version's take on the Batman costume, but don't tell him I said that. His head's big enough as it is.

--G.
It gives moderate Gotham by Gaslight vibes, and that's my favorite version of the Batsuit ever.
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#1, RE: They said it could never happen...
Posted by mdg1 on Jun-11-26 at 01:39 AM
In response to message #0
>Also, I dig the adult version's take on the Batman costume, but don't
>tell him I said that. His head's big enough as it is.

King doesn't get credit for that one. It's just the Batman #666 outfit from 2007.


#2, RE: They said it could never happen...
Posted by Peter Eng on Jun-11-26 at 04:40 PM
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Is this the series where Damian tries to teach Lizzie how to tie her shoes?

That's a very cute scene, although I imagine that whoever taught him that mnemonic is also the person who taught him to improvise a garotte from a pair of shoelaces.

Also, I like that Jon knows better than to stick around when Lizzie learns a word she shouldn't have.

Peter Eng
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#3, RE: They said it could never happen...
Posted by Gryphon on Jun-11-26 at 07:27 PM
In response to message #2
>Is this the series where Damian tries to teach Lizzie how to tie her
>shoes?

Yup.

>That's a very cute scene, although I imagine that whoever taught him
>that mnemonic is also the person who taught him to improvise a garotte
>from a pair of shoelaces.

I just checked, and he says his mother taught it to him, so... that tracks.

(He also goes on to note, quite casually, that though he got it right the first time, he failed to tie his shoes correctly on his next attempt, causing his grandfather to lock him in a box in the desert for a week without food or water.)

LIZZIE
That's sad.

DAMIAN
Is it? I don't know. I remember him laughing. He wasn't sad.

Which is... actually kind of genuinely tragic. I don't deny that Damian has reasons for being such a jagged piece of human wreckage.

>Also, I like that Jon knows better than to stick around when Lizzie
>learns a word she shouldn't have.

Lois didn't raise no fool.

--G.
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#4, RE: They said it could never happen...
Posted by Bad Moon Again on Jun-22-26 at 06:23 PM
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He's still garbo

#5, RE: They said it could never happen...
Posted by Mephron on Aug-07-26 at 11:59 AM
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>... somebody finally wrote a version of Damian Wayne I don't
>completely hate.

have you been reading Batman: Wayne Family Adventures? If not, honestly, dedicate an hour to that sometime soon. It has:

  • Bruce growing emotionally
  • Bruce admitting he's wrong (sometimes)
  • Jason being vulnerable (an entire two-page to his PTSD in the first season, and then a multiple page sub-arc where friends show up to help him through another PTSD response in the second)
  • Dick being both silly and romantic
  • Damien being very tolerable and, in some cases, funny
  • Stephanie and Cassandra doing at least one ship-tease and then avoiding it in a really great way
  • Selina taking Bruce to school while being a loving, supportive partner
  • Bruce not seeing through a Joker plot until someone else whacks him over the head with it.
  • Alfred being the best
  • Lois impressing Damien and Jon with what she does
  • Clark and Diana almost giving Bruce a cerebral aneurysm

    It's fun. I recommend it. Again. :)

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  • #6, RE: They said it could never happen...
    Posted by Gryphon on Aug-07-26 at 08:09 PM
    In response to message #5
    >>... somebody finally wrote a version of Damian Wayne I don't
    >>completely hate.
    >
    >have you been reading
    >Batman: Wayne Family Adventures?

    No, and I keep meaning to. I've seen a couple of individual strips that have come across my feed as retweets, and they look fun, but I haven't dived into the whole thing yet. It's like that meme I saw a while ago that said something to the effect of, "No matter how much we both know I'll like that show, I can't watch it until the Neurodivergence Department in my head approves it. I have no control over when that will happen." :)

    --G.
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    #7, RE: They said it could never happen...
    Posted by Matrix Dragon on Aug-08-26 at 03:55 AM
    In response to message #5
    LAST EDITED ON Aug-08-26 AT 03:55 AM (EDT)
     
    >Bruce admitting he's wrong (sometimes)

    The key is to have a writer that can admit B can be wrong. Not sure the main continuity has had that for a few decades.

    >Stephanie and Cassandra doing at least one ship-tease and then
    >avoiding it in a really great way

    As a diehard Batgirl Shipper, I adore the WFA dynamic of these two. It's the kind of relationship where there being a romantic relationship is just a nice extra.

    >Clark and Diana almost giving Bruce a cerebral aneurysm

    And it was glorious.

    Matrix Dragon, J. Random Nutter