>Personally I just had to deal with "web designers" with no concept of
>FTP or the Unix file privilege system.
>

The PhD's are worse, IMHO, but that is bad... hell, I have next to null experience on UNIX systems <the sys admin at my college loves MS stuff, don't ask, we don't know why> and I know about those. Tell me, did these 'designers' have degrees/certificates, or were they just resume padding liars?

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