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#0, GG3/V: Nord par Nord-Est
Posted by Gryphon on Jun-21-21 at 03:49 PM
With her business in Paris concluded and Flandre and Meiling already away, Remilia prepares to take her leave of the capital and embark on the next stage of her own journey—but the news of the Scarlets' return to public life has reached farther than she thinks, and more forces than she knows are on the move.

Act V: "Nord par Nord-Est"

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#1, RE: GG3/V: Nord par Nord-Est
Posted by Peter Eng on Jun-21-21 at 04:21 PM
In response to message #0
Oh, nice. I hadn't even considered the value of getting a Grandmaster Librarian interested in helping out.

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#2, RE: GG3/V: Nord par Nord-Est
Posted by Croaker on Jun-21-21 at 04:45 PM
In response to message #1
LAST EDITED ON Jun-21-21 AT 04:46 PM (EDT)
 
>Oh, nice. I hadn't even considered the value of getting a Grandmaster
>Librarian interested in helping out.


Well, it depends on what she’s interested in helping -with-, but I rather doubt she intends any inconvenience to Mme. le Comtesse.

Key word there being “intends”, of course. You never know what’ll happen with this lot. Especially once Marisa gets a look at their library....


#3, RE: GG3/V: Nord par Nord-Est
Posted by Verbena on Jun-21-21 at 10:12 PM
In response to message #2
I seem to recall Patchouli calling Remilia an old friend, but beyond that who knows what their relationship is or what's going to happen. I kind of expect critical unfinished business, considering how fast she dropped everything to go chase down Remilia.

Could she have been involved in the attack on Scarlet House?


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#4, RE: GG3/V: Nord par Nord-Est
Posted by Peter Eng on Jun-22-21 at 01:35 AM
In response to message #3
>I seem to recall Patchouli calling Remilia an old friend, but beyond
>that who knows what their relationship is or what's going to happen. I
>kind of expect critical unfinished business, considering how fast she
>dropped everything to go chase down Remilia.
>
>Could she have been involved in the attack on Scarlet House?
>

Based on what I've seen in this episode, I'd guess that she wasn't involved.

A rough outline:
She went to see her best friend the morning after the attack, and there was nothing there. After investigating, she assumed that the mission to kill the Scarlets had been wholly successful, finished mastering the Abandonments, and eventually found her way to the Great Library.

Peter Eng
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#5, RE: GG3/V: Nord par Nord-Est
Posted by Terminus Est on Jun-22-21 at 06:16 AM
In response to message #4
LAST EDITED ON Jun-22-21 AT 06:17 AM (EDT)
 
Hmm. She might be one of two people - Remilia the Elder's apprentice or contemporary in witchcraft, or the girl Remi was briefly involved with way back. It'll be interesting to see where this goes. (Of course it's also possible I'm completely off the mark.)

I'm sincerely looking forward to the chaos that is about to ensue.

Edit: I'd lay my money on apprentice, judging by apparent age.


#6, RE: GG3/V: Nord par Nord-Est
Posted by Zemyla on Jun-22-21 at 02:49 PM
In response to message #5
>or the girl Remi was briefly involved
>with way back.

Pretty sure she's not - I don't think she's a farmer's daughter like Maisie was, and I'm pretty sure G hasn't read much if any Remi x Patchy doujins.


#7, RE: GG3/V: Nord par Nord-Est
Posted by Gryphon on Jun-22-21 at 03:29 PM
In response to message #6
>I'm pretty sure G hasn't read much if any Remi x
>Patchy doujins.

Well, I mean, there's this one, but the yuri only really comes in at the very end (and is adorable).

(Actually, thinking about it, I've seen a few stories that are not about this or indeed any particular pairing, but have it as part of the subtext that they either used to be a Thing long ago, or aren't but occasionally fool around just for a change of pace. Most artists seem to prefer matching Patchy up with Alice and/or Marisa, though, because they're colleagues and all that.)

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#8, RE: GG3/V: Nord par Nord-Est
Posted by Astynax on Jun-22-21 at 05:47 PM
In response to message #0
> Amid the trackless wastes of the eternal desert, half-buried in the
> ever-shifting sands, there stood the Great Library.

This sequence continues to make questions bubble up in my head. Since no time frame is given, is this contemporary to main line UF Dìqiú or some other period? I'm trying to estimate the potential for Patchy to have some form of "wait, you know the Avatar -how- well?" reaction to G if/when the topic comes up, though that's assuming Patchy was staying up to date on current events at all I suppose.

Then there's the other side of that interaction, if G is acquainted with, or at least informed about, Wan Shi Tong, and thus what it might mean for him to tread lightly around Patchy.

> "I see." Marisa frowned thoughtfully. "You called Gryph 'the future count'
> before."
> Sakuya glanced back over her shoulder with a questioning expression. "Yes?"
> "Ain't he already a count, though?"
> "Ah, that's true, it had slipped my mind," Sakuya conceded. "He doesn't use
> his Karlslandic title often, and never at home. I was referring to the fact
> that he'll become the next Count Scarlet when he marries m'lady, of course."

After the forum conversation in the teaser thread, seeing this got a grin from me. I'm curious if this exchange was planned from the start, or included for the sake of those who don't peruse the forums regularly?

> Rising to her feet, she bowed in a courtly sort of way and went on, "Though
> this is not my home, welcome. Enter freely and of your own will; go safely;
> and leave some of the happiness you bring." Seeing the young witch's look of
> perplexity, she smiled and added, "A traditional welcome from my father's
> country. I sometimes forget how peculiar it must sound to the modern ear."

The Vampire Hello appears again, though I believe with a small addition this time? I know the original source didn't have 'go safely' and I don't recall Remilia adding that when she ran the line past G the first time, so I expect it is an attempt to be a little less ominous.

> Remilia's crimson eyes twinkled with mirth. "Ordinarily, you'd have a fight
> on your hands for that seat, but as its customary owner, my little sister
> Flandre, is off traveling at the moment, you're safe enough."
> "Oh yeah?" Marisa chuckled and elbowed Gryphon. "You dog."
> "Harrumph," Gryphon replied, pointedly ignoring her in favor of taking a sip
> of tea.
> "He had little say in the matter, I assure you," said Remilia.

I'm curious if Marisa is really that perceptive about the interpersonal situation, or if she's just indulging in a bit of lightly bawdy humor to try get a rise out of G and/or Remilia?

> "You know," she said, frowning at a telegram, "when I decided to reveal my
> existence and Flan's to the world, I expected a certain level of...
> resistance. That the revelation would bring forth certain types of people who
> wouldn't be happy about it. Those who refuse to believe in vampires and call
> us frauds. Those who do believe in vampires and call us monsters. I was ready
> for those." She looked up from the paper, meeting Gryphon's eyes, and went on,
> "I was not expecting so many asking to join us, as if being a vampire were
> some sort of club membership."

Vampire groupies and wannabes don't surprise me, but I am a little surprised there'd be many in an alternate version of the 1940s. I had figured that sort of subculture was a bit more of a modern development. The scene goes on to provide a few potential reasons of course, but I can't fault Remilia for being a little surprised by it.

> With that, Sakuya disappeared into one of the bedrooms; an improbably short
> time later, she emerged from the other, no longer carrying either parcel.
> Marisa glanced at Alice, a querying eyebrow raised, but the Britannian witch
> replied only with a slight shrug and an almost imperceptible "search me" look.
> She hadn't noticed any use of magic either. Both of them looked at their
> hostess, but she only gave them a faintly smug smile and said,
> "Thank you, Sakuya."

Seems there needs to be a caveat to the classic saying about 'sufficiently advanced technology' when people familiar with actual magic are present.

> "A Liberion hedge witch, a shrine maiden from Fusō, and a faeblood puppeteer.
> What an assortment, particularly in this era. You do gather them about you,
> don't you, mieux aimé?"

I'd expect a vampire to have sharp senses, but for Remilia to pick up on Alice that quickly seems almost uncanny. Is there some magic sense at work here, or are the puppets some sort of obvious tell to someone with the right knowledge?

> "All the same, it's annoying," said Gryphon, a touch glumly. With a wry little
> smile and a moment's eye contact with Reimu, he added, "I was hoping I'd have
> time to get in a little more cavorting."
> While Reimu blushed and looked away, Alice coolly and decorously concealed a
> laugh, and Marisa did not. Remilia regarded the four of them with mild
> puzzlement, but none of the three young women responded. Reimu, her face still
> bright red, wouldn't meet her gaze, while Marisa was still chortling and Alice
> ostentatiously busied herself with her teacup. Only Gryphon responded
> directly, catching her eye and giving her a mischievous little wink, as if to
> say he'd explain later.

And so Reimu's penance continues, I suspect not for the last time either.

> "How very efficient of you. Well, in that case, Admiral, I'd best be about it.
> Please let your superiors know that it was my pleasure, and if Lt. Nishimura
> and his... team... wish to consult with me about anything in the future, I'm
> glad to help as far as security permits. He'll know where to find me." Laying
> it on just a little bit thick, he squared himself up with a click of
> bootheels, as if he really were a Karlslandic aristocrat, and gave Sugita a
> very correct Fusō-style bow. "Good day, Admiral."

I do hope Sugita's staff didn't have too much trouble defrosting him after this exchange.

> Gryphon shrugged. "What would getting mad accomplish? I'm not going to pick a
> fight with the entire Imperial Fusōnese Navy."
> "Why not? It's always worked for me," Reimu pointed out.

I feel like there's a bit of entertaining back story here, even if, as seems likely, she doesn't mean it literally.

> Her curious look changing to a scowl, Hōrai Doll produced a tiny broadsword
> from somewhere and held the fairy off at swordpoint.

Well, that reaction doesn't leave room for misinterpretation. Hōrai clearly takes a dim view of drunken sailors.

> Remilia beamed. "Excellent. Should you need anything of us in the meantime,
> you can find us at the Allied Forces base at Château Saint-Ulrich in
> Ribeauvillé. We're joining the war effort, and I expect we shall be stationed
> there for the foreseeable future."

This sparks a curiosity, at what point exactly does the irregularity at Saint-Ulrich cause LeMay reach his limit and have an aneurysm?

> "I don't know. Not yet. I need more information. I need..." She paused,
> looking thoughtful, and drank off the rest of the tonic, now so engrossed in
> the problem that she didn't react to its flavor. Meeting her familiar's eyes,
> she said firmly, "This man she's marrying. Take me to him. He'll know where
> she is."

Well, Patchy didn't seem to recognize G by name, so it will be interesting to see what comes from their meeting. I imagine one of them will have some variation of "it's a small multiverse" mixing in amongst their other responses. I do wonder, given her somewhat severe seeming personality so far, if Patchy will get off on the wrong foot when she encounters, well, any of the rest of the cast at this point.

Also, it seems years desiccating in a library in the desert haven't left Patchy in the best of health.


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#9, RE: GG3/V: Nord par Nord-Est
Posted by Peter Eng on Jun-22-21 at 06:53 PM
In response to message #8
>> Amid the trackless wastes of the eternal desert, half-buried in the
>> ever-shifting sands, there stood the Great Library.
>
>This sequence continues to make questions bubble up in my head. Since
>no time frame is given, is this contemporary to main line UF Dìqiú
>or some other period? I'm trying to estimate the potential for Patchy
>to have some form of "wait, you know the Avatar -how- well?" reaction
>to G if/when the topic comes up, though that's assuming Patchy was
>staying up to date on current events at all I suppose.
>

It strikes me as likely that several Avatars came and went without ever knowing Patchy was in there.

>> Her curious look changing to a scowl, Hōrai Doll produced a tiny broadsword
>> from somewhere and held the fairy off at swordpoint.
>
>Well, that reaction doesn't leave room for misinterpretation. Hōrai
>clearly takes a dim view of drunken sailors.
>

Still waiting on Shanghai's opinion...

>> "I don't know. Not yet. I need more information. I need..." She paused,
>> looking thoughtful, and drank off the rest of the tonic, now so engrossed in
>> the problem that she didn't react to its flavor. Meeting her familiar's eyes,
>> she said firmly, "This man she's marrying. Take me to him. He'll know where
>> she is."
>
>Also, it seems years desiccating in a library in the desert haven't
>left Patchy in the best of health.
>

My impression is that Patchouli hasn't ever been in the best of health, even in Touhou canon. I think she's based on one of the standard anime characters - sickly badass bookworm.

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#11, RE: GG3/V: Nord par Nord-Est
Posted by Gryphon on Jun-22-21 at 09:45 PM
In response to message #9
LAST EDITED ON Jun-22-21 AT 09:50 PM (EDT)
 
>It strikes me as likely that several Avatars came and went without
>ever knowing Patchy was in there.

That would be true if she'd come along in any other era, but given that Avatar Kyoshi was born in 1807 and lived for 230 years, it's likely that Patchouli's tenure at the library overlapped parts of no more than two Avatars' lifetimes at maximum.

>Still waiting on Shanghai's opinion...

That's not the sort of question a lady doll answers, but, I mean, she is called "Shanghai"...

>My impression is that Patchouli hasn't ever been in the best of
>health, even in Touhou canon. I think she's based on one of the
>standard anime characters - sickly badass bookworm.

It's EoSD's explanation for why such a theoretically powerful witch is only a stage-4 boss--her asthma and anemia make it impossible for her to cast advanced spells, even though she knows them.

(She appears as a playable character in at least one later Touhou game, the explanation being that she's having a better day, and she is indeed extremely capable there.)

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#10, RE: GG3/V: Nord par Nord-Est
Posted by Gryphon on Jun-22-21 at 09:42 PM
In response to message #8
>> Amid the trackless wastes of the eternal desert, half-buried in the
>> ever-shifting sands, there stood the Great Library.
>
>This sequence continues to make questions bubble up in my head. Since
>no time frame is given, is this contemporary to main line UF Dìqiú
>or some other period?

There may or may not be a chance to explore this in-story, but the intent is that Patchy's sojourn in the Great Library happens in parallel with her native timeline, so when we see her here, it's the summer of Yuan Zheng 139 (that is, the 139th year of Avatar Kyoshi's very long lifetime).

>that's assuming Patchy was
>staying up to date on current events at all I suppose.

When she's in the zone, Patchouli sometimes has trouble staying up to date with current events at the other end of the table, let alone outside the library.

>Then there's the other side of that interaction, if G is acquainted
>with, or at least informed about, Wan Shi Tong, and thus what it might
>mean for him to tread lightly around Patchy.

They've never met, but anyone who hangs with Korra for any appreciable length of time ends up hearing all about Wan Shi Tong. :)

>> "I see." Marisa frowned thoughtfully. "You called Gryph 'the future count'
>> before."
>
>After the forum conversation in the teaser thread, seeing this got a
>grin from me. I'm curious if this exchange was planned from the start,
>or included for the sake of those who don't peruse the forums
>regularly?

The latter. :)

>The Vampire Hello appears again, though I believe with a small
>addition this time? I know the original source didn't have 'go safely'
>and I don't recall Remilia adding that when she ran the line past G
>the first time, so I expect it is an attempt to be a little less
>ominous.

"Go safely" is indeed in Stoker:

"Welcome to my house! Enter freely and of your own will!" He made no motion of stepping to meet me, but stood like a statue, as though his gesture of welcome had fixed him into stone. The instant, however, that I had stepped over the threshold, he moved impulsively forward, and holding out his hand grasped mine with a strength which made me wince, an effect which was not lessened by the fact that it seemed as cold as ice—more like the hand of a dead than a living man. Again he said:—

"Welcome to my house. Come freely. Go safely; and leave something of the happiness you bring!" The strength of the handshake was so much akin to that which I had noticed in the driver, whose face I had not seen, that for a moment I doubted if it were not the same person to whom I was speaking; so to make sure, I said interrogatively:—

"Count Dracula?" He bowed in a courtly way as he replied:—

"I am Dracula; and I bid you welcome, Mr. Harker, to my house."

Without it, "leave something of the happiness you bring" would be kind of a non sequitur.

>I'm curious if Marisa is really that perceptive about the
>interpersonal situation, or if she's just indulging in a bit of
>lightly bawdy humor to try get a rise out of G and/or Remilia?

She's just being comically salacious. (Later on, she may realize how unintentionally right she was, which should be amusing. :)

>Vampire groupies and wannabes don't surprise me, but I am a little
>surprised there'd be many in an alternate version of the 1940s. I had
>figured that sort of subculture was a bit more of a modern
>development. The scene goes on to provide a few potential reasons of
>course, but I can't fault Remilia for being a little surprised by it.

I don't think they have quite the same subtext behind them here as modern IRL vampire fandom, for the most part, but given the intense-but-suppressed kinkiness of Victorian society, I assume there were Dracula fetishists within about 20 minutes of the book's publication. :)

>> "A Liberion hedge witch, a shrine maiden from Fusō, and a faeblood puppeteer.
>> What an assortment, particularly in this era. You do gather them about you,
>> don't you, mieux aimé?"
>
>I'd expect a vampire to have sharp senses, but for Remilia to pick up
>on Alice that quickly seems almost uncanny. Is there some magic sense
>at work here, or are the puppets some sort of obvious tell to someone
>with the right knowledge?

Keep in mind, Remilia's parents were what we would now call paranormal investigators, and though she makes light of herself in what she calls her extended childhood during their lifetimes, she did learn some of their trade. To someone with that sort of background and a vampire's sensitivity to magic, the fae folk of the Britannic Isles are pretty distinctive.

>And so Reimu's penance continues, I suspect not for the last time
>either.

"If it's funny once, it's funny every time."
- The Mighty Jingles

>"Good day, Admiral."
>
>I do hope Sugita's staff didn't have too much trouble defrosting him
>after this exchange.

Poor guy, it's mostly not even his fault.

>> Gryphon shrugged. "What would getting mad accomplish? I'm not going to pick a
>> fight with the entire Imperial Fusōnese Navy."
>> "Why not? It's always worked for me," Reimu pointed out.
>
>I feel like there's a bit of entertaining back story here, even if, as
>seems likely, she doesn't mean it literally.

Pondering the exact background behind the remark gives me the pleasant image of Reimu explaining why she can't go anywhere near Yokosuka, to the tune of the episode of WKRP in Cincinnati where the crew at the radio station are getting ready to go to Mexico for some urgent reason I've forgotten, and Dr. Johnny Fever reveals that he can't go with them because he's wanted there.

"It was a minor misunderstanding one night with 145 Mexican cops. I thought they were soldiers..."

>> Her curious look changing to a scowl, Hōrai Doll produced a tiny broadsword
>> from somewhere and held the fairy off at swordpoint.
>
>Well, that reaction doesn't leave room for misinterpretation. Hōrai
>clearly takes a dim view of drunken sailors.

I think it was the "before" part that she found most offensive.

>> Remilia beamed. "Excellent. Should you need anything of us in the meantime,
>> you can find us at the Allied Forces base at Château Saint-Ulrich in
>> Ribeauvillé. We're joining the war effort, and I expect we shall be stationed
>> there for the foreseeable future."
>
>This sparks a curiosity, at what point exactly does the irregularity
>at Saint-Ulrich cause LeMay reach his limit and have an aneurysm?

General LeMay has resigned himself to the way the Gallians do things. It's their country, after all, even if they do run it in the most slapdash and irresponsible way he can think of. :)

>I do wonder, given her somewhat severe
>seeming personality so far, if Patchy will get off on the wrong foot
>when she encounters, well, any of the rest of the cast at this point.

She's very out of practice dealing with anyone who isn't Koakuma at this point.

>Also, it seems years desiccating in a library in the desert haven't
>left Patchy in the best of health.

No indeed. It seems that just because you can go for literally decades without food, water, or sleep, doesn't necessarily mean you should.

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#12, RE: GG3/V: Nord par Nord-Est
Posted by Astynax on Jun-23-21 at 12:58 PM
In response to message #10
>"Go safely" is indeed in Stoker:
>Without it, "leave something of the happiness you bring" would be kind
>of a non sequitur.
>

I was thinking of the movie version of the greeting, which omits the 'go safely'. The joys of adaptations and imperfect memory.

>She's just being comically salacious. (Later on, she may realize how
>unintentionally right she was, which should be amusing. :)
>

Going by her reactions in other scenes, I expect she'll end up with cheeks matching Reimu's usual outfit at some point during the realization.

>Pondering the exact background behind the remark gives me the pleasant
>image of Reimu explaining why she can't go anywhere near Yokosuka, to
>the tune of the episode of WKRP in Cincinnati where the crew at
>the radio station are getting ready to go to Mexico for some urgent
>reason I've forgotten, and Dr. Johnny Fever reveals that he can't go
>with them because he's wanted there.
>
>"It was a minor misunderstanding one night with 145 Mexican cops. I
>thought they were soldiers..."
>

"It was a minor misunderstanding one night with 145 Tokkeitai. I thought they were youkai..."


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#15, RE: GG3/V: Nord par Nord-Est
Posted by Gryphon on Jun-23-21 at 03:49 PM
In response to message #12
>>She's just being comically salacious. (Later on, she may realize how
>>unintentionally right she was, which should be amusing. :)
>>
>
>Going by her reactions in other scenes, I expect she'll end up with
>cheeks matching Reimu's usual outfit at some point during the
>realization.

>"It was a minor misunderstanding one night with 145 Tokkeitai. I
>thought they were youkai..."

"I said show me some badges, the guy said 'Badges? We don't need no stinking badges!'"

--G.
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#13, RE: GG3/V: Nord par Nord-Est
Posted by Zemyla on Jun-23-21 at 02:53 PM
In response to message #10
>There may or may not be a chance to explore this in-story, but the
>intent is that Patchy's sojourn in the Great Library happens in
>parallel with her native timeline, so when we see her here, it's the
>summer of Yuan Zheng 139 (that is, the 139th year of Avatar Kyoshi's
>very long lifetime).

So is this GG's Diqiu, or UF main's? Or does weird sidereal crap mean they're the same?


#14, RE: GG3/V: Nord par Nord-Est
Posted by Gryphon on Jun-23-21 at 03:27 PM
In response to message #13
>So is this GG's Diqiu, or UF main's? Or does weird sidereal crap mean
>they're the same?

I'm not 100% sure myself, but I suspect there might be only one. Given the way in which Patchy reached it, weird sidereal crap may not be necessary, though. We'll get to that.

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#18, RE: GG3/V: Nord par Nord-Est
Posted by ImpulsiveAlexia on Jun-30-21 at 03:27 AM
In response to message #10
>>Well, that reaction doesn't leave room for misinterpretation. Hōrai
>>clearly takes a dim view of drunken sailors.
>
>I think it was the "before" part that she found most offensive.

... Is there some subtext to the word that I'm missing?

-IA.

(received information not interpretable)


#19, RE: GG3/V: Nord par Nord-Est
Posted by Gryphon on Jun-30-21 at 08:51 AM
In response to message #18
LAST EDITED ON Jun-30-21 AT 08:51 AM (EDT)
 
>>>Well, that reaction doesn't leave room for misinterpretation. Hōrai
>>>clearly takes a dim view of drunken sailors.
>>
>>I think it was the "before" part that she found most offensive.
>
>... Is there some subtext to the word that I'm missing?

It implies an assumption on the bosun's part that, regardless of the answer, it WILL be happening this time.

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#21, RE: GG3/V: Nord par Nord-Est
Posted by ImpulsiveAlexia on Jul-06-21 at 01:14 PM
In response to message #19
>>>>Well, that reaction doesn't leave room for misinterpretation. Hōrai
>>>>clearly takes a dim view of drunken sailors.
>>>
>>>I think it was the "before" part that she found most offensive.
>>
>>... Is there some subtext to the word that I'm missing?
>
>It implies an assumption on the bosun's part that, regardless of the
>answer, it WILL be happening this time.

It does?

No, seriously, I don't think I've ever heard of any such implication.

-IA.

(received information not interpretable)


#23, RE: GG3/V: Nord par Nord-Est
Posted by Gryphon on Jul-06-21 at 10:25 PM
In response to message #21
>>It implies an assumption on the bosun's part that, regardless of the
>>answer, it WILL be happening this time.
>
>It does?

Well, it did to Hōrai. I guess your mileage may vary.

--G.
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#24, RE: GG3/V: Nord par Nord-Est
Posted by Gryphon on Aug-15-22 at 02:43 PM
In response to message #10
>>And so Reimu's penance continues, I suspect not for the last time
>>either.
>
>"If it's funny once, it's funny every time."
> - The Mighty Jingles

Upon reflection, it occurs to me that the best thing about this is that it wasn't even what Reimu intended to say. She meant to say "consort", but English is not her first language. :)

--G.
what she said still works, though
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#25, RE: GG3/V: Nord par Nord-Est
Posted by ImpulsiveAlexia on Aug-15-22 at 03:36 PM
In response to message #24
>what she said still works, though

I was gonna say.

If anything, it probably captures the "why are you fooling around doing dumb shit instead of tending to business" attitude that she seemed to be going for.

-IA.

(which does not make the entire exercise any more sensible)


#16, RE: GG3/V: Nord par Nord-Est
Posted by TsukaiStarburst on Jun-28-21 at 08:51 PM
In response to message #0
I don't quite know when it was first mentioned but now I'm just going to imagine Remilia and Gryphon as Morticia and Gomez, like, all the time?

#17, RE: GG3/V: Nord par Nord-Est
Posted by Gryphon on Jun-28-21 at 10:16 PM
In response to message #16
>I don't quite know when it was first mentioned but now I'm just going
>to imagine Remilia and Gryphon as Morticia and Gomez, like, all the
>time?

I don't think the comparison took very long to come up at all, and not without reason. :)

--G.
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#22, RE: GG3/V: Nord par Nord-Est
Posted by MuninsFire on Jul-06-21 at 08:21 PM
In response to message #17
The Morticia/Gomez dynamic is probably the best, most loving one ever depicted on screen and I myself am a very big fan of it. Very wholesome and aspirational.

#20, RE: GG3/V: Nord par Nord-Est
Posted by Zemyla on Jun-30-21 at 11:08 AM
In response to message #16
It came from the annotations.

>I love it when you speak Gallic - When it began to become clear to me
>that Gryphon and Remilia were going to be a couple, I joked in the studio
>that it was likely the longer they were together, the more his attitude
>toward her would come to resemble Gomez Addams's toward Morticia.