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Just a couple of quick detail fixes which I missed when I originally vetted this little bit. --G.

International Police Organization
Internal Report
May 26, 2402
To: Chief Benjamin Hutchins - EYES ONLY

Report
Interviews, Dimensionally Displaced Persons of Event May 24, 2402

Here's the quick and dirty you asked for on the analysis of the interviews. The full analysis has been filed somewhere where you won't trip over it, per your orders, and Vision has the recording of the interviews if you want to review for yourself.

Standard explanation protocols were followed, followed up by processing of New Avalon refugee papers pending citizenship processing. Questions about the subjects, and their opinions of each other, were asked as part of the paperwork process. Probing on sensitive subjects avoided per standard operating procedures; no prying. Interviews ranged from four minutes to half an hour. Bioscans appended for your personal study.

Most of the subjects are metahumans of one type or another; all may be classified as either adventurers or vigilantes.

DONALD GRIFFIN - Gallifreyan (2 regenerations used), apparent age about 20. Dimensional Counterpart of Chief Hutchins (resemblance quotient 0.75, rather low for a DC). Possesses power armor similar to model designed by Chief. Intelligent, shy, very anxious about his companions, whose opinions of him range from casual like to deep respect to potential romantic interest. Anxious to see his friends settled; has pressing business on Gallifrey. Recommend transfer of case to Dr. Burke.

IPO Recruitment potential: Indeterminate.

KATHERINE PRYDE - Human, 21. Genetic anomaly allows manipulation of matter out of phase with other matter, limitation personal body and direct contact; in other words, walks through walls. Possibly still in shock; quiet, contemplative, reticent. Obviously attached to Don Griffin. Known and respected by most of the others.

IPO Recruitment potential: Indeterminate.

KURT WAGNER - Genetically altered human, 27. Genetic anomaly affects physical body and permits teleportation. Flirtatious, intensely curious about New Avalon, either hyperactive or bipolar. Very mixed reputation, but generally trusted by those who know him well.

IPO Recruitment potential: Moderate.

PIOTR RASPUTIN - Human, 26. Genetic anomaly allows conversion of skin into a resilient flexmetal alloy, with attending metahuman strength levels. So damn Russian it's annoying, right down with the ability to accept the situation. Rather quiet, voluble about prior world and his role in it, a real Boy Scout. Uniform opinion from the others: dependable friend, implacable enemy.

IPO Recruitment potential: High.

LOGAN (no first name, no Mr.) - Human, cybernetically augmented, age unknown, apparently 45. The four-minute man. Gruff, confrontational, anger-driven. Genetic anomaly produces regeneration at a level close to, although mechanically different from, stage 2 Detian regen abilities. Bones reinforced with a metallic substance unknown to our science. Companions know very little about the man; certain of them trust him implicitly, others hold him in deep suspicion.

IPO Recruitment potential: Low. (I would mark this Zero, but he was a member of a vigilante team prior to crossrip, so it must be -possible.-)

JUBILATION LEE - Human, age 14. Pyrokinetic. Reminds me of Kei when we first met. Seems flighty, talkative, but obviously experienced in certain ways. Had some rough times. Considered the little sister by most of the group.

IPO Recruitment potential: Indeterminate.

BARON VICTOR VON DOOM, Ph. D. - Human, 44. Possesses power armor of his own design, capacities unknown; systems resist scan. REALLY fond of himself. Slips into third person and pomposity without warning; seldom slips out again. Frighteningly intelligent. The others report him as a megalomaniac and former dictator of a Baltic state, although Don Griffin vouches for his reform. His view of his own abilities is almost matched by that held by his companions. Disturbingly eager to learn more about surroundings, special interest in technology and politics. Despite his arrogance, face mask and the scars visible through the cracks, strangely compelling.

IPO Recruitment potential: Zero. Not a joiner.

BENJAMIN GRIMM - Mutated human, 43. Severely distorted base-human DNA resulting in a rocky, oversized form of fantastic strength and durability. Friendly, talkative, witty, but evades personal inquiries. Probably hiding his own emotions. Extremely surprised at lack of reaction to his appearance; surprised at the lack of repulsion or fear more likely. More eager even than Baron Doom to learn about the world outside; mentioned an eagerness to fly one of the airships he saw upon arrival. Universal strong positive reputation from his companions.

IPO Recruitment potential: Moderate.

ANTHONY STARK - Human, 36. Owns powered armor of his own design which resists scans. Most secretive of the group at first, opened up somewhat before end of interview. Less intelligent than Doom or Griffin, but still brilliant. Very eager to find work, mentioned 'working for my bread for a change.' Comrades mostly know him by his vigilante name, 'Iron Man,' and are vaguely positive about him.

IPO Recruitment potential: High.

HENRY McCOY - Genetically altered human, 34. Genetic anomaly grants unusual strength and exceptional agility; spent virtually the entire interview clinging to the light fixture. Whimsical and philosophical; very well educated. Honest, open and inquisitive during interview. Regarded by companions well, with a couple of them remarking that he caught some bad breaks in his life.

IPO Recruitment potential: High.

Overall synopsis: Doom needs watching, and Logan is a major unknown, but the rest are not only trustworthy but are great candidates for IPO agents. Recommend a couple weeks to assimilate before recruiting, beginning with Rasputin, Stark and McCoy.

- Agent Yuri Daniels, interviewer

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Boggle...

Oh -- this is going to be fun to watch over time.

-Logan

	Argh... Dammit... Where's a dimensional crossrip device when you need one?!

>So damn Russian it's annoying, right down with the ability to accept the
>situation.

Ahh, nichevo. What a great word.

------
Jon Helscher

"At this point, it's not even about trying to make money. I just don't want to be totally humiliated."

This is one group to watch out for!

Just wondering, would any DPP be transported into the Eyrie Universe without the notice of the IPO or their allies? Which led to wonder what would happen if any of the opposition forces discover someone like Magento?

---------
-"I came, I saw, I sought therapy. And it hurts"-

>Just wondering, would any DPP be transported into the Eyrie Universe
>without the notice of the IPO or their allies?

Sure, happens all the time. We just got to this group first because the TARDIS happened to materialize in Veterans' Park on a nice summer day, and Sgt. Schweickart happened to be passing by that area on his beat at the time. If they'd ended up in, say, Cleveland, they'd have had to deal with Earthforce, which probably would have led to an entertaining adventure for us, but wouldn't have been a very good introduction to the UF universe for them.

>Which led to wonder
>what would happen if any of the opposition forces discover someone
>like Magento?

Depends on which opposition force. Earthforce or the Psi Corps he would probably ignore. His reaction to Big Fire would depend on his mood. Erik has occasionally toyed with the idea of reforming, as Doom did, but nothing much has ever come of it. If there's a native of the Marvel Universe who is even more impressed with himself than Victor von Doom, it's Erik Lehnsherr, after all.

--G.
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>Depends on which opposition force. Earthforce or the Psi Corps he
>would probably ignore. His reaction to Big Fire would depend on his
>mood. Erik has occasionally toyed with the idea of reforming, as Doom
>did, but nothing much has ever come of it. If there's a native of the
>Marvel Universe who is even more impressed with himself than Victor
>von Doom, it's Erik Lehnsherr, after all.

The big thing with Mags is, he's not precisely evil in the classic manner that one would see in Marvel. Apocalypse and the rest of the managerie is courting with pure, basic evil, but good ol' Erik seems to, on some level or another, truly believe he's on the side of the angels on this matter.

Sure, he's a horse's rear end, but he actually thinks that he's the good guy and the rest of the assorted loonies opposing him are hopelessly misguided.

Unless, of course, they've done any major rewriting to his personality since I got too tired of trying to keep up with however many titles Marvel is trying to churn out these days.

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>The big thing with Mags is, he's not precisely evil in the classic
>manner that one would see in Marvel. Apocalypse and the rest of the
>managerie is courting with pure, basic evil, but good ol' Erik seems
>to, on some level or another, truly believe he's on the side of the
>angels on this matter.

The thing about Magneto which would give me hope for him, had he crossripped to the UF universe, is that his big problem with the world he lives in is an almost total non-issue there, and he's smart enough to realize it. In a fully integrated galactic civilization in which humanity often has its genes twiddled at the mall for decorative purposes, being "born different" isn't even really notable, except for the Earth Alliance's psionic population - and that's a political problem that's been made into a cultural one by propaganda, not a truly cultural issue like the mutant question in the Marvel Universe is.

Anyway, he'd find himself in a world where the likes of Kurt Wagner are viewed as "nifty" rather than "deformed", and I suspect he'd sit down, think it over, and decide to do something different with his abilities.

Hmm... almost makes me wish I'd brought him along. But, of course, that would have been logistically difficult...

--G.
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>Anyway, he'd find himself in a world where the likes of Kurt Wagner
>are viewed as "nifty" rather than "deformed", and I suspect he'd sit
>down, think it over, and decide to do something different with his
>abilities.

Or just doing something completely different. Like selling his helmet specs to various people and snatching away psicorp's official reason for existing. Don't really need to control psi if your average person can purchase what is essentially a foil helmet that actually works. Not that it'd be in character for him to do it really... but the idea is amusing.

Mistral

-well assuming psi in UF works the same way psi in Marvel works.

>
>LOGAN (no first name, no Mr.) - Human, cybernetically
>augmented, age unknown, apparently 45. The four-minute man. Gruff,
>confrontational, anger-driven. Genetic anomaly produces regeneration
>at a level close to, although mechanically different from, stage 2
>Detian regen abilities. Bones reinforced with a metallic substance
>unknown to our science. Companions know very little about the man;
>certain of them trust him implicitly, others hold him in deep
>suspicion.
>
>IPO Recruitment potential: Low. (I would mark this Zero, but
>he was a member of a vigilante team prior to crossrip, so it must be
>-possible.-)

I just had a vision, and I can't decide if it's just _wrong_, or wonderful. Either way it's compelling:

Logan, Grey Lensman

Shalon Wood

>Logan, Grey Lensman

That would be kind of scary, in that it would plug up the last major gap in his can't-be-kept-down-ness. :)

It would, however, be entertaining in that it would provide a number of people (like, cops) who would not otherwise give him the time of day with a feeling of being obligated to trust and assist him. :)

--G.
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>>Logan, Grey Lensman
>
>That would be kind of scary, in that it would plug up the last major
>gap in his can't-be-kept-down-ness. :)
>
>It would, however, be entertaining in that it would provide a number
>of people (like, cops) who would not otherwise give him the time of
>day with a feeling of being obligated to trust and assist him. :)

Not to mention the reaction of the DDP's who don't trust him as far as they can throw him...

"_Logan_'s a _WHAT_?"

Shalon Wood

>>Logan, Grey Lensman
>
>That would be kind of scary, in that it would plug up the last major
>gap in his can't-be-kept-down-ness. :)

I get the distinct impression that Logan's mule-headedness would work not-too-bad against a psi-cop's ego lash (or other psychic attack) long enough to skewer the poor fool....

-Z

Rabid Crack Turtle 3.14159
---
Welcome to Hell. Here's your accordion.

>>>Logan, Grey Lensman
>>
>>That would be kind of scary, in that it would plug up the last major
>>gap in his can't-be-kept-down-ness. :)
>
>I get the distinct impression that Logan's mule-headedness would work
>not-too-bad against a psi-cop's ego lash (or other psychic attack)
>long enough to skewer the poor fool....
>
Actually, shutting down Logan's higher mental functions would be a _Bad Thing_, Logan's berzerker persona isn't all that far buried at the best of times.

>Actually, shutting down Logan's higher mental functions would be a
>_Bad Thing_, Logan's berzerker persona isn't all that far buried at
>the best of times.

True... you think Juri lost it when the psi-cop attacked her... *shudder*

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Neither of us liked what we saw.
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>Logan, Grey Lensman

... SWEET!!

If this ever happens, the only thing left that can even slow Logan down is Magneto or some big-ass magnet.

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Almost all of the worthwhile things I can think of have already been said, but I will note that if you manage to write something coherent and up to the usual EPU quality involving Wolverine, most likely your version will be the one I think of as 'the real Wolerine' since at this point he's got more alternate backstories than Krang the Conqueror. Well, that, and, and he's possibly the single momst oveerexposed Marvel character, thanks to the X-Men line's popularity and his status as official team badass. Thing is, despite the not liking much of anything official or unofficial about him, I still like the character, as such.

As for the prospects of Magneto having managed to make the trip with the rest of the MU crew: As you said, it would be a bit hard for him to be powering the process and inside the TARDIS at the same time... but there's more than one version o Marvel Universe out there, after all. A possible explanation that I could buy (in an adventure story oriented setting like UF, at least) is that since he was the one powering the show, it left a distictive stamp on the resulting energies, and when Griffin and company tried to punch into the/a mainline the local Magneto felt it, and happened to be nearby enough to investigate why a poerful spike of his own energy was coming from somewhere besides himself... and just happens to get caught in a secondary effect that drops him relatively nearby, in dimensional travel terms. This could mean anything from popping up in an alley on the far side of New Avalon and wandering off before anyone got there to check it out, to a couple of star systems away, but as you've noted, Erik is smart. It wouldn't take very long wandering around in his costume and not getting any more odd looks than any other person in obviously offplanet fashions, seeing the occasional alien going about their business, to realise that there might be some fundamental differences in the local attitudes from what he's used to having to put up with.

- CD

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>Almost all of the worthwhile things I can think of have already been
>said, but I will note that if you manage to write something coherent
>and up to the usual EPU quality involving Wolverine, most likely your
>version will be the one I think of as 'the real Wolerine' since at
>this point he's got more alternate backstories than Krang the
>Conqueror.

[Here, I have snipped a doctoral dissertation on The Complete "Canon" Origin of Wolverine as Fanatic sees it, because I've warned him again and again about spouting off on the subject of "canon" in situations like this, and I'm just not inclined it put up with it any more. --G.]

Patrick... how many times have I warned you about doing this kind of thing?

--G.

>>Almost all of the worthwhile things I can think of have already been
>>said, but I will note that if you manage to write something coherent
>>and up to the usual EPU quality involving Wolverine, most likely your
>>version will be the one I think of as 'the real Wolerine' since at
>>this point he's got more alternate backstories than Krang the
>>Conqueror.
>
>Patrick... how many times have I warned you about doing this kind
>of thing?
>
>--G.

... er? I'm not Patrick, but if I offended somehow, I apologise.

- CD

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>>>Almost all of the worthwhile things I can think of have already been
>>>said, but I will note that if you manage to write something coherent
>>>and up to the usual EPU quality involving Wolverine, most likely your
>>>version will be the one I think of as 'the real Wolerine' since at
>>>this point he's got more alternate backstories than Krang the
>>>Conqueror.
>>
>>Patrick... how many times have I warned you about doing this kind
>>of thing?
>>
>... er? I'm not Patrick, but if I offended somehow, I apologise.

Oh, no, sorry - see how that post is by Fanatic? I replaced his text with my huge disgruntlement.

Let me go put in an explanation of why I did that. Sorry about the confusion.

--G.
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>[Here, I have snipped a doctoral
>dissertation on The Complete "Canon" Origin of Wolverine as Fanatic
>sees it, because I've warned him again and again about spouting off on
>the subject of "canon" in situations like this, and I'm just not
>inclined it put up with it any more. --G.]
>
>Patrick... how many times have I warned you about doing this kind
>of thing?
>
>--G.
Too many times? BTW Boss, uhm doctoral dissertation? If I may say this, You give me too much credit. Also in 5 years The Powers that be may tinker with history again.
Pattrick

Random Quote of the moment:
"If only Visa gave out credit like that, I'd have Betty running right now."
Me on Credit and an IRL project.

>BARON VICTOR VON DOOM, Ph. D. - Human, 44. Possesses power
>armor of his own design, capacities unknown; systems resist scan.
>REALLY fond of himself. Slips into third person and pomposity without
>warning; seldom slips out again. Frighteningly intelligent. The
>others report him as a megalomaniac and former dictator of a Baltic
>state, although Don Griffin vouches for his reform. His view of his
>own abilities is almost matched by that held by his companions.
>Disturbingly eager to learn more about surroundings, special interest
>in technology and politics. Despite his arrogance, face mask and the
>scars visible through the cracks, strangely compelling.
>
>IPO Recruitment potential: Zero. Not a joiner.

Okay, now, a scene I've just got to see.

Doom, Mojo Jojo, and Marty, running into each other in the middle of a Big Fire muck-up. Possibly with Jubilee along for the ride.

Innnnnteresting.

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>KATHERINE PRYDE
>KURT WAGNER

You know, one of the great things about Excalibur in the beginning was the small team and the great characters; you've brought the two best over. I can see Kurt really digging the concept of Rose Duels and getting along famously with Liza (swashbuckling, you know) while Kitty is kitty and can survive just about anything. Someone better replace her 'Cats Laughing' albums though...and both are already veterans of dimensional travel (and met a really warped version of Kei and Yuri at one point...) so you'd think they're almost used to this sort of thing.

>PIOTR RASPUTIN
>LOGAN

For when you just need things broken.

>JUBILATION LEE

Because everyone needs a sidekick...

>BARON VICTOR VON DOOM, Ph. D.
>BENJAMIN GRIMM

Re: Redneck's post...I agree, it makes my head hurt...
Doom could have given Largo ego lessons.
Thing would probably be a lot happier in the UF world, he doesn't stick out so much...could he survive on Hoffman without gravity gear? He'd probably try just to see if he could

>ANTHONY STARK
>HENRY McCOY

Now, as they were both Avengers, they actually know their universe's version of Thor and some of the other Asgardians, it would be interesting to see them meet the UF versions for sheer shock value.

Other than Stark I used to love these characters (well, loved to hate Doom) and seeing them get a little screen time warms my heart. And if you want to read some Exaclibur Gryph, I've got a complete run up into the mid #80's of the book. But after #50 it wasn't the same...don't really think you missed too much.

I agree that Liefield should die for ruining the New Mutants.

You know who would have fit into UF really well? The Peter David X-Factor team of Havok, Polaris, Strong Guy, Multiple Man, and Wolvesbane. They were all completely crazy and it was the funnest (if silliest) X book, and was always worth reading when Peter David was writing it. Alas, with no more Marvel crossovers, I will simply have to imagine...

(too bad I can't type well enough to post without typos the first time)

>Thing would probably be a lot happier in the UF world, he
>doesn't stick out so much...could he survive on Hoffman without
>gravity gear?

The Thing can lift 85 tons over his head and survive direct artillery hits unharmed. Hoffman's only 3 Gs. :)

>I agree that Liefield should die for ruining the New Mutants.

Well, I wouldn't say that. I'm wary of hyperbole involving death. I don't think the guy should die for doing what I consider a bad job. Have to find work in some other field, yes, but not die.

--G.
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>The Thing can lift 85 tons over his head and survive direct artillery
>hits unharmed. Hoffman's only 3 Gs. :)

So, basically, he could survive a round of "howdy's" at a Hoffmanite family reunion. Gotcha.

<grin>

-- Bob
-------------------
Bill Gates is a white Persian cat and a monocle away from becoming another James Bond villain: "No, Mr. Bond, I expect you to upgrade." -- Dennis Miller

>So, basically, he could survive a round of "howdy's" at a Hoffmanite
>family reunion. Gotcha.
>
Yes, but could the Hoffmanites survive him? :)

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Neither of us liked what we saw.
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>>The Thing can lift 85 tons over his head and survive direct artillery
>>hits unharmed. Hoffman's only 3 Gs. :)
>
>So, basically, he could survive a round of "howdy's" at a Hoffmanite
>family reunion. Gotcha.
>
><grin>

Wouldn't last long. I'm sure each Hoffmanite would be wincing at the first hit of greeting. ("Hello!" *wham* "....owwwwww.")

>>>The Thing can lift 85 tons over his head and survive direct artillery
>>>hits unharmed. Hoffman's only 3 Gs. :)
>>
>>So, basically, he could survive a round of "howdy's" at a Hoffmanite
>>family reunion. Gotcha.
>>
>><grin>
>
>Wouldn't last long. I'm sure each Hoffmanite would be wincing at the
>first hit of greeting. ("Hello!" *wham* "....owwwwww.")

Hmm I got an image of the thing learning about
'the local custom' on hoffman
and er... basically putting the whole planet
into the hospitals for a few days. :)

*thing* "HEY! Nice ta' meetcha! Oh look I havent
said hi to that guy yet!" WHAMM! bounce WHAM!
"HEY! Nice ta' meetcha!" *thing*

And then he'd change his official battle-cry to:

"IT'S GREETIN' TIME!!"

And then Gryph woud be sad, because the original was the Best Battle-Cry Ever.

Therefore, we don't want this to happen. :)

- Lord Ilmartello!
"We apologize to fans of the original! ... Oh, wait - no we don't."

>And then he'd change his official battle-cry to:
>
>"IT'S GREETIN' TIME!!"
>
>And then Gryph woud be sad, because the original was the Best
>Battle-Cry Ever.
>
>Therefore, we don't want this to happen. :)
>

HMM... I guess then whenever Grimm tries to get to Hoffman
his passport will mysteriously get rejected or his drive(s)
will mysteriosly fail or...etc etc. due to the Ultimate force.
:)

>>I agree that Liefield should die for ruining the New Mutants.
>
>Well, I wouldn't say that. I'm wary of hyperbole involving
>death. I don't think the guy should die for doing what I
>consider a bad job. Have to find work in some other field, yes, but
>not die.
>
Okay, consign him to the lowest levels of the abyss when he dies and in the meantime take a page from Kaitlyn's book and strap him to a chair, force him to sit through films and TV shows with actual cohesive story and plot, and then put him through hours upon hours of classes like 'anatomy for artists' and 'movement and dance' (so he learns how a person actually moves as opposed to...whatever...moves he drew them in). He might be salvagable as an artist then, although as a writer he's always going to suck.

Death, of course, IS to strong a course of action to take no matter how bad he screwed with the NM cast and how horribly he drew the remaining team...

>>>I agree that Liefield should die for ruining the New Mutants.
>>
>>Well, I wouldn't say that. I'm wary of hyperbole involving
>>death. I don't think the guy should die for doing what I
>>consider a bad job. Have to find work in some other field, yes, but
>>not die.
>>
>Okay, consign him to the lowest levels of the abyss when he dies and
>in the meantime take a page from Kaitlyn's book and strap him to a
>chair, force him to sit through films and TV shows with actual
>cohesive story and plot, and then put him through hours upon hours of
>classes like 'anatomy for artists' and 'movement and dance' (so he
>learns how a person actually moves as opposed to...whatever...moves he
>drew them in). He might be salvagable as an artist then, although as
>a writer he's always going to suck.
>

Heh... the only comment I can think of is to add Chris Dee's excellent series of web posts "Never follow Rules" (which can be found Here) to his required reading lists. =p

Personally, the artist of New Mutants I dislike is Bill Sienkiewicz.

Treatin' every damn comic like it's a piece of modern art...Of course, I've only seen up to issue...#35 so far. But there are so many *GOOD* artists who don't get so 'artsy' about comics...Steve Leialoha is better, at least...The best ones I've seen have been the writer, penciler, and co-creators, Chris Claremont and Bob McLeod. People look like people, monsters look like monsters, the characters are distinct...later on in the ones I've seen, I have a hell of a time telling some of them apart...Dazzler and Magma, Cypher and cannoball, Karma and Psyche/Mirage/Moonster/whatever she decides her name is today...

I'll try to find some issues with this Liefield fellah..