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#0, The Power of the Lensmen?
Posted by Phantom on Jan-10-17 at 09:04 AM
I am not sure how I found this, but here it is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-td8Jp0hJVA

Now I've never read the lensmens books, so UF's Lenses are my default version of the lens. This video was "interesting".

If you have ever watched or enjoyed Robotech, then it will sound very familiar.

Enjoy!

"When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains,
however improbable, must be the truth." - Sherlock Holmes


#1, RE: The Power of the Lensmen?
Posted by mdg1 on Jan-10-17 at 03:36 PM
In response to message #0
I actually saw this before I read the books (which is why the version of the Lens I used in OR was embedded on the back of the left hand).

"Interesting" is probably putting it mildly. "Almost a Star Wars ripoff..."


#2, RE: The Power of the Lensmen?
Posted by Berk on Jan-10-17 at 04:41 PM
In response to message #1
Lensman, brought to you by: 'Well that escalated beyond all expectations.'

#3, RE: The Power of the Lensmen?
Posted by mdg1 on Jan-10-17 at 04:59 PM
In response to message #2
Nah, Doc's SKYLARK books actually managed to top it.

#9, RE: The Power of the Lensmen?
Posted by Wiregeek on Jan-18-17 at 01:18 AM
In response to message #3
I have a lot of trouble believing that, and I find myself desperately wanting to be proven wrong.

#10, RE: The Power of the Lensmen?
Posted by Gryphon on Jan-18-17 at 01:37 AM
In response to message #9
>I have a lot of trouble believing that, and I find myself desperately
>wanting to be proven wrong.

E.E. Smith, Ph.D., would have considered the ending of Gunbuster (where they use Jupiter as the hydrogen core of a thermonuclear weapon—spoilers!) pretty unambitious, scale-wise.

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#13, RE: The Power of the Lensmen?
Posted by NHO on Jan-18-17 at 08:50 AM
In response to message #10
>>I have a lot of trouble believing that, and I find myself desperately
>>wanting to be proven wrong.
>
>E.E. Smith, Ph.D., would have considered the ending of
>Gunbuster (where they use Jupiter as the hydrogen core of a
>thermonuclear weapon—spoilers!) pretty unambitious, scale-wise.
>
Have we seen same Gunbuster?
It was a Black Hole Bomb. That they used, with addition of some ten thousand slave nodes, if I remember correctly, to remove 80% of a galaxy from existence.

But still only mildly ambitious, scale-wise.


#14, RE: The Power of the Lensmen?
Posted by Gryphon on Jan-18-17 at 09:12 AM
In response to message #13
>>>I have a lot of trouble believing that, and I find myself desperately
>>>wanting to be proven wrong.
>>
>>E.E. Smith, Ph.D., would have considered the ending of
>>Gunbuster (where they use Jupiter as the hydrogen core of a
>>thermonuclear weapon—spoilers!) pretty unambitious, scale-wise.
>>
>Have we seen same Gunbuster?
>It was a Black Hole Bomb.

Oh. OK, right. What was I thinking? Clearly a thermonuclear weapon based on fusing 1.9*1029 kilograms of hydrogen would be ENTIRELY inadequate. :)

In my defense, it has been a really long time since I saw Gunbuster. I do, however, still remember Jer "The Barbarian" Johnson turning to me and remarking in awe, "They've got Jupiter in there."

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#15, RE: The Power of the Lensmen?
Posted by Berk on Jan-18-17 at 10:50 AM
In response to message #14
Dr. Gravity, he has a baseball bat and a laser gun!

#16, RE: The Power of the Lensmen?
Posted by NHO on Jan-18-17 at 12:51 PM
In response to message #14
>In my defense, it has been a really long time since I saw Gunbuster.
>I do, however, still remember Jer "The Barbarian" Johnson turning to
>me and remarking in awe, "They've got Jupiter in there."

May I suggest rewatching? Gunbuster literally at least three greatest moments in anime that I know of. The combining in fifth episode, the final battle in sixth (being made in stop motion of paper sketches add greatness, I feel), and return to Earth.


#17, RE: The Power of the Lensmen?
Posted by StClair on Jan-18-17 at 01:03 PM
In response to message #16
>May I suggest rewatching? Gunbuster literally at least three greatest
>moments in anime that I know of. The combining in fifth episode, the
>final battle in sixth (being made in stop motion of paper sketches add
>greatness, I feel
), and return to Earth.

A fortunate accident, in that it represents one of the first examples of Gainax's infamous tendency to run out of budget before the end of the show/story.
But no, just filming the storyboards is artistic! Yeah!


#18, RE: The Power of the Lensmen?
Posted by NHO on Jan-18-17 at 01:29 PM
In response to message #17
And great soundtrack to accompany the storyboard.

#20, RE: The Power of the Lensmen?
Posted by Kendra Kirai on Jan-18-17 at 10:15 PM
In response to message #16
May I also suggest a watch of Diebuster as well? I re-watched the ending of that a month or two ago and nnnnf.

#11, RE: The Power of the Lensmen?
Posted by drakensis on Jan-18-17 at 02:40 AM
In response to message #9
Offhand, at the peak of Lensman they deployed:
1. Planets being thrown around as ballistic weapons
2. Anti-matter planets being thrown as explosive weapons
3. The complete concentrated energy of a star into a single beam of energy

At the peak of Skylark they used massive teleportation to strategically redesign three galaxies in order to surgically eliminate one galaxy-wide civilisation while preserving a second, geographically integrated civilisation. It's not quite TTGL levels of over-kill but it's a bit more precise.


#12, RE: The Power of the Lensmen?
Posted by mdg1 on Jan-18-17 at 06:44 AM
In response to message #11
Specifically, they destroyed two galaxies by teleporting every star from one near to every star of the other, while teleporting every non-hostile world in BOTH galaxies to safe orbits in a third galaxy, all while they themselves are in another galaxy entirely.

#19, RE: The Power of the Lensmen?
Posted by Kendra Kirai on Jan-18-17 at 10:12 PM
In response to message #12
Mmmmmm, that's some good power creep!

#21, RE: The Power of the Lensmen?
Posted by mdg1 on Jan-19-17 at 08:09 PM
In response to message #19
It's perhaps indicative of how OTT the Skylark books are that I DIDN'T use them in Otaku Rising. :)

(It was too long ago for the Culture or TTGL ;) )


#4, RE: The Power of the Lensmen?
Posted by Gryphon on Jan-10-17 at 05:17 PM
In response to message #0
Hm? Oh, I saw that once, aeons ago. As I recall, it had about as much to do with the Lensmen books as Major League had to do with the actual 1989 baseball season...

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#7, RE: The Power of the Lensmen?
Posted by Phantom on Jan-11-17 at 08:48 AM
In response to message #4
But Major League was 100% true to life movie!

LOL

Yeah it was "interesting" I definitely prefer your Lensmen to the Roboteched version of Space DnD that was this movie.

"When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth." - Sherlock Holmes


#5, RE: The Power of the Lensmen?
Posted by SpottedKitty on Jan-10-17 at 06:02 PM
In response to message #0
What the heck did I just watch the first fifteen minutes of? I know I'd heard the anime version of Lensman was about as true to the books as the Starship Troopers films, but this was... argleblargle.

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#8, RE: The Power of the Lensmen?
Posted by Phantom on Jan-11-17 at 08:51 AM
In response to message #5
I did say it was "Interesting", so you were warned. :)
It was made by Harmony Gold and they reused so much of the Robotech soundtrack that it was distracting for me.
And the story they were telling, not very good.
My wife looked over at the screen during the initial attack and said "Watch out for the giant space penis!" followed by "What the hell are you watching?"

LOL

"When you have eliminated the impossible, whatever remains,
however improbable, must be the truth." - Sherlock Holmes


#6, RE: The Power of the Lensmen?
Posted by drakensis on Jan-11-17 at 01:25 AM
In response to message #0
I read the books before seeing this so... yes. It's more in common with Star Wars than it does with Lensman. Although given the dates that's not too surprising.