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#0, Things You Didn't Know About Avalon County
Posted by Gryphon on Apr-07-10 at 04:26 PM
Eminent domain is illegal in the Republic of Zeta Cygni. If the government wants to build a highway where your house is and you'd prefer to keep your house, the government is shit out of luck.

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#1, RE: Things You Didn't Know About Avalon County
Posted by Offsides on Apr-07-10 at 04:41 PM
In response to message #0
This strikes me as the kind of thing G & co. would do, just because it's the Right Thing™... Of course, it also strikes me as highly likely that they'd be willing to pay a reasonable price for the property plus a decent overage for the costs of moving plus the fact that you'd have to give up your house, and if told to bugger off would find an alternate plan anyway, but still - can't guarantee that whoever is in office running the place will always behave themself...

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#2, RE: Things You Didn't Know About Avalon County
Posted by Verbena on Apr-07-10 at 05:23 PM
In response to message #1
I've had the back strip of land behind my house taken by eminent domain, for building a sound barrier. Don't get me wrong; the barrier IS effective and has been for many years. But they took the back strip from our land and graded a portion of the rest at a 30 degree incline, which we can't of course fix, and naturally we didn't get the real market value for it. It's never fair, I don't think, and of course there's a legendary case of eminent domain abuse a few years back. http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,198303,00.html

Frightening, isn't it? Especially the courts upholding it. What a travesty of justice.

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#5, RE: Things You Didn't Know About Avalon County
Posted by A Vile Gangster on Apr-07-10 at 06:14 PM
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A vile practice; Fight against it, at every opportunity.

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#7, RE: Things You Didn't Know About Avalon County
Posted by Offsides on Apr-07-10 at 06:48 PM
In response to message #2
>I've had the back strip of land behind my house taken by eminent
>domain, for building a sound barrier. Don't get me wrong; the barrier
>IS effective and has been for many years. But they took the back strip
>from our land and graded a portion of the rest at a 30 degree incline,
>which we can't of course fix, and naturally we didn't get the real
>market value for it. It's never fair, I don't think, and of course
>there's a legendary case of eminent domain abuse a few years back.
>http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,198303,00.html
>
Oh, I'm not saying that existing governments give fair market value for what they take, I'm just saying that I suspect G would not only give fair market value, but also additional compensation for the additional costs of relocating as well as (monetary) intangibles if he ever made that kind of offer to someone. And while there may be occasional good reasons for moving someone out of where they live (e.g., one of the mining towns that's so polluted the entire town is considered a toxic-waste superfund site), most cases of eminent domain are clearly greedy power plays on the part of politicians and the people who line their pockets. RZC's ban prev

#35, RE: Things You Didn't Know About Avalon County
Posted by Gryphon on Apr-20-17 at 06:37 PM
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LAST EDITED ON Apr-20-17 AT 06:39 PM (EDT)
 
It is unlawful for a designer to specify plain slotted screws in most applications in the Republic of Zeta Cygni, because—and this is a direct quotation from the legislation—they are a monumental pain in the ass. Philips head* or GTFO. Violating this statute does not incur jail time, but there is a fine and you will get a nasty, nasty note from the Bureau of Standards.

(Oh hey, this thread was broken. Who knew? Hmm, if I get it fixed now it'll make this post go away. I'd better dupe it.)

--G.
* or Torx, or Allen, or Reed + Prince, or hex head cap screw, or fratzog lock, or whatever. The actual wording calls for "positively tool-locating fasteners".
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#36, RE: Things You Didn't Know About Avalon County
Posted by drakensis on Apr-21-17 at 03:09 AM
In response to message #35
Not something I'd personally support because the screws I need to work with most often are on my glasses and I don't have a screwdriver small enough for them, so I usually tighten them with a penknife. It's hard enough to do that with a slot-headed screw - I'd hate to try it if they were Philips head.

#37, RE: Things You Didn't Know About Avalon County
Posted by Mephron on Apr-21-17 at 03:25 AM
In response to message #36
The law does say "most applications". There's probably a way to show why a slotted screw is better for an application. Or one of those weird-ass-tastic security screws used in some places for security.

But not on the sewer lids.

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#38, RE: Things You Didn't Know About Avalon County
Posted by BLUE on Apr-21-17 at 12:32 PM
In response to message #35
Working in construction I affirm this standard. The only place slotted screws have a place is in really small applications like fire-alarm terminal blocks because the screws are so small that making them phillips head also tends to make them prone to stripping out with any torque whatsoever. As an electrician I would request a building code that makes stab-lock wiring illegal